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13:17:33 <sharper> zakim, please clear the agenda
13:17:33 <Zakim> agenda cleared
13:17:34 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
13:17:36 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7394
13:17:36 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_RDWG()9:30AM scheduled to start in 13 minutes
13:17:37 <trackbot> Meeting: Research and Development Working Group Teleconference
13:17:37 <trackbot> Date: 30 July 2014
13:17:54 <sharper> Chair: Abou-Zahra_Shadi
13:17:54 <sharper> Agenda+ Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments) [sharper]
13:17:56 <sharper> Agenda+ Symposium Status: Way-Finding CFP [christos, vivienne, annika]
13:17:57 <sharper> Agenda+ 'Open-Mic' Round-Table Discussion of one of the Topics [all]
13:17:59 <sharper> Agenda+ Symposium Status: Web-of-Things [shadi, klaus]
13:18:00 <sharper> Agenda+ Symposium Status: Big Data [sharper, all]
13:18:02 <sharper> Agenda+ Symposium Status: Wearables [markel]
13:18:03 <sharper> Agenda+ Symposium Status: Web Inclusion [all]
13:18:05 <sharper> Agenda+ Note Edit Status:  Metrics  [markel, giorgio]
13:18:06 <sharper> Agenda+ Note Edit Status: Mobile [bim]
13:18:08 <sharper> Agenda+ Note Edit Status: Text Customisation [david, shawn]
13:18:09 <sharper> Agenda+ Note Edit Status: Easy to Read [klaus]
13:18:11 <sharper> Agenda+ Note Edit Status: User Modeling [yehya]
13:18:12 <sharper> Agenda+ Note Edit Status: eLearning [justin, silvia]
13:18:14 <sharper> Agenda+ STANDING  - https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/open [sharper]
13:18:14 <sharper> Agenda+ STANDING  - Any Other Business 	 [sharper]
13:18:43 <sharper> zakim, save agenda
13:18:49 <Zakim> ok, sharper, the agenda has been written to http://www.w3.org/2014/07/30-rd-agenda.rdf
13:19:34 <sharper> zakim, take up item 1
13:19:34 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments)" taken up [from sharper]
13:19:35 <sharper> Last weeks - and previous minutes can be found at:
13:19:36 <sharper>      - <http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/minutes-history>
13:19:38 <sharper> Keep on-top of scribing at:
13:19:39 <sharper>      - <http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/scribes>
13:19:40 <sharper> Scribing Commands:
13:19:41 <sharper>      - <http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Weekly_Call_Scribing>
13:20:52 <sharper> regrets: markel, yeliz, klaus
13:21:15 <sharper> zakim, next item
13:21:15 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Symposium Status: Way-Finding CFP" taken up [from christos, vivienne, annika]
13:24:13 <sharper> regrets+ Justin
13:30:09 <shadi> zakim, call shadi-617
13:30:09 <Zakim> ok, shadi; the call is being made
13:30:11 <Zakim> WAI_RDWG()9:30AM has now started
13:30:13 <Zakim> +Shadi
13:30:40 <christos> christos has joined #rd
13:31:14 <Zakim> +??P7
13:31:26 <christos> zakim, ??P7 is me
13:31:26 <Zakim> +christos; got it
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13:32:24 <silvia_mirri> zakim, IPcaller is me
13:32:24 <Zakim> +silvia_mirri; got it
13:32:49 <silvia_mirri> zakim, mute me
13:32:49 <Zakim> silvia_mirri should now be muted
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13:33:18 <Vivienne> Vivienne has joined #rd
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13:34:01 <silvia_mirri> zakim, unmute me
13:34:01 <Zakim> silvia_mirri should no longer be muted
13:34:19 <giorgio> zakim, ??P11 is giorgio
13:34:19 <Zakim> +giorgio; got it
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13:34:51 <silvia_mirri> zakim, mute me
13:34:51 <Zakim> silvia_mirri should now be muted
13:34:56 <sharper> zakim, ??P12 is sharper
13:34:56 <Zakim> +sharper; got it
13:35:16 <Vivienne> zakim, IPcaller is me
13:35:16 <Zakim> +Vivienne; got it
13:35:39 <shadi> scribe: silvia_mirri
13:36:15 <silvia_mirri> yes I am ready
13:36:39 <silvia_mirri> zakim, agenda
13:36:39 <Zakim> I don't understand 'agenda', silvia_mirri
13:37:01 <sharper> <http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Weekly_Call_Scribing>
13:37:34 <silvia_mirri> zakim, take up item 1
13:37:34 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments)" taken up [from sharper]
13:37:38 <silvia_mirri> zakim, take up item 2
13:37:38 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Symposium Status: Way-Finding CFP" taken up [from christos, vivienne, annika via sharper]
13:37:44 <Vivienne> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Accessibility_of_way-finding_systems
13:38:04 <shadi> zakim, mute me
13:38:04 <Zakim> Shadi should now be muted
13:38:37 <silvia_mirri> Vivienne: we have asked for suggestions
13:40:02 <silvia_mirri> Vivienne: we have checked works related to Open data
13:42:00 <silvia_mirri> SH: are you guys happy with the symposium or do you feel you need some more help to involve people in submitting work to the symposium
13:42:21 <silvia_mirri> Christos and Vivienne are happy with that
13:42:55 <silvia_mirri> Annika is on holiday now
13:43:07 <christos> q+
13:43:20 <sharper> ack c
13:44:04 <christos> q-
13:44:04 <shadi> q+
13:44:08 <shadi> ack me
13:44:13 <sharper> ack s
13:44:39 <silvia_mirri> Shadi: we need to move from the wiki format to the call for paper format
13:45:42 <silvia_mirri> Shadi: any timeline for that?
13:47:02 <silvia_mirri> Christos: I'm going to produce a draft for the call for paper. I'm trying to find more people involved not only in open data, but also in wayfinding systems
13:47:27 <silvia_mirri> and navigation systems as well
13:48:15 <silvia_mirri> Shadi: Vivienne, do not duplicate the work
13:49:50 <silvia_mirri> Shadi: We should start moving into the call for paper format
13:50:01 <silvia_mirri> with description of the background
13:50:09 <silvia_mirri> a good defined goal of the symposium
13:50:30 <christos> +1
13:50:33 <silvia_mirri> update the call for paper, making it not too long
13:51:01 <sharper> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Step-by-Step_Guide_for_Symposium_Chairs/Editors
13:51:40 <silvia_mirri> SH: the call for paper should be quite short
13:51:52 <christos> +q
13:52:10 <silvia_mirri> SH: the catalogue entry is now quite good
13:54:01 <silvia_mirri> Shadi: we can start creating the email version, creating the different parts and work on that
13:54:23 <silvia_mirri> Christos: the main part for the call for paper are the research questions
13:55:06 <silvia_mirri> I can prepare a brief introduction and goals
13:56:10 <Vivienne> q+
13:56:10 <silvia_mirri> Shadi: the description of the topic in the wiki page is general, in the call for paper we need a briefer description, with a link to the wiki page to additional background
13:57:26 <christos> https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Template_for_CfP_Web_Page
13:59:47 <sharper> ach c
13:59:50 <sharper> ack c
13:59:52 <christos> q-
14:00:03 <Vivienne> q-
14:01:47 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/2014/07/16-rd-minutes.html#item03 [[<shadi> The key sections are:
14:01:47 <shadi> <shadi> - Introduction (repeated on both pages);
14:01:47 <shadi> <shadi> - Background (on Overview page);
14:01:47 <shadi> <shadi> - Objectives (on Overview page);
14:01:47 <shadi> <shadi> - Important Dates (on Call for Papers);
14:01:47 <shadi> <shadi> - Scope (on Call for Papers);
14:01:49 <shadi> <shadi> - Contributions (on Call for Papers).
14:01:51 <shadi> <shadi> The other sections are rather administrative and can be added by me. Feel free to put all these sections on one wiki page that we can work on together with the group.
14:01:54 <shadi> ]]
14:04:17 <silvia_mirri> zakim, close item 2
14:04:17 <Zakim> agendum 2, Symposium Status: Way-Finding CFP, closed
14:04:18 <Zakim> I see 13 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:04:18 <Zakim> 3. 'Open-Mic' Round-Table Discussion of one of the Topics [from all via sharper]
14:04:32 <silvia_mirri> zakim, take up item 3
14:04:32 <Zakim> agendum 3. "'Open-Mic' Round-Table Discussion of one of the Topics" taken up [from all via sharper]
14:05:07 <silvia_mirri> zakim, close item 3
14:05:07 <Zakim> agendum 3, 'Open-Mic' Round-Table Discussion of one of the Topics, closed
14:05:09 <Zakim> I see 12 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:05:09 <Zakim> 4. Symposium Status: Web-of-Things [from shadi, klaus via sharper]
14:05:42 <silvia_mirri> zakim, take up item 4
14:05:42 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Symposium Status: Web-of-Things" taken up [from shadi, klaus via sharper]
14:06:19 <silvia_mirri> Shadi: we have contacted people involved in Web of Things research, we will see
14:06:21 <Vivienne> regarding that CFP, 12 weeks from September 7 is November 30.  So Sept 7 is probably the deadline for the CFP
14:06:29 <silvia_mirri> zakim, take up item 5
14:06:29 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Symposium Status: Big Data" taken up [from sharper, all via sharper]
14:06:37 <silvia_mirri> zakim, take up item 8
14:06:37 <Zakim> agendum 8. "Note Edit Status:  Metrics " taken up [from markel, giorgio via sharper]
14:07:02 <giorgio> correct
14:07:20 <silvia_mirri> Shadi: we are waiting for additional comments from Judy
14:07:31 <giorgio> q+
14:08:54 <silvia_mirri> Giorgio: we are waiting for editing this note for 3 years, it is too much
14:09:15 <silvia_mirri> for a Research and Developmente Working Group note
14:09:49 <Vivienne> zakim, mute me
14:09:49 <Zakim> Vivienne should now be muted
14:10:18 <sharper> ack giorgio
14:10:31 <giorgio> no it'sok
14:10:54 <silvia_mirri> zakim, close item 8
14:10:54 <Zakim> agendum 8, Note Edit Status:  Metrics , closed
14:10:55 <Zakim> I see 11 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:10:55 <Zakim> 4. Symposium Status: Web-of-Things [from shadi, klaus via sharper]
14:11:08 <silvia_mirri> zakim, take up item 9
14:11:08 <Zakim> agendum 9. "Note Edit Status: Mobile" taken up [from bim via sharper]
14:12:28 <silvia_mirri> SH: we should have a draft by the end of August
14:13:38 <silvia_mirri> zakim, close item 9
14:13:38 <Zakim> agendum 9, Note Edit Status: Mobile, closed
14:13:39 <Zakim> I see 10 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:13:39 <Zakim> 4. Symposium Status: Web-of-Things [from shadi, klaus via sharper]
14:13:49 <silvia_mirri> zakim, take up item 10
14:13:49 <Zakim> agendum 10. "Note Edit Status: Text Customisation" taken up [from david, shawn via sharper]
14:14:08 <silvia_mirri> zakim, close item 10
14:14:08 <Zakim> agendum 10, Note Edit Status: Text Customisation, closed
14:14:09 <Zakim> I see 9 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:14:09 <Zakim> 4. Symposium Status: Web-of-Things [from shadi, klaus via sharper]
14:14:20 <silvia_mirri> zakim, take up item 11
14:14:20 <Zakim> agendum 11. "Note Edit Status: Easy to Read" taken up [from klaus via sharper]
14:15:37 <silvia_mirri> Shadi: Klaus in on vacation, but his collagues are working on the Note
14:15:47 <silvia_mirri> zakim, close item 11
14:15:47 <Zakim> agendum 11, Note Edit Status: Easy to Read, closed
14:15:48 <Zakim> I see 8 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:15:48 <Zakim> 4. Symposium Status: Web-of-Things [from shadi, klaus via sharper]
14:15:56 <silvia_mirri> zakim, take up item 12
14:15:56 <Zakim> agendum 12. "Note Edit Status: User Modeling" taken up [from yehya via sharper]
14:16:13 <silvia_mirri> Christos: we are taking care about details on the references
14:16:29 <silvia_mirri> we can move forward after that
14:16:37 <shadi> q+
14:17:12 <sharper> ack s
14:17:12 <shadi> ack me
14:18:17 <silvia_mirri> Shadi: do you want to put the draft online?
14:21:15 <silvia_mirri> Zakim, close item 12
14:21:15 <Zakim> agendum 12, Note Edit Status: User Modeling, closed
14:21:16 <Zakim> I see 7 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:21:16 <Zakim> 4. Symposium Status: Web-of-Things [from shadi, klaus via sharper]
14:21:22 <silvia_mirri> zakim, take up item 13
14:21:22 <Zakim> agendum 13. "Note Edit Status: eLearning" taken up [from justin, silvia via sharper]
14:21:33 <silvia_mirri> zakim, unmute me
14:21:33 <Zakim> silvia_mirri should no longer be muted
14:21:34 <shadi> zakim, mute me
14:21:34 <Zakim> Shadi should now be muted
14:21:40 <shadi> scribe: shadi
14:21:46 <shadi> SH: st atus?
14:21:53 <shadi> SM: working on it
14:21:57 <shadi> ...had a meeting
14:22:13 <shadi> ...divided sections among us
14:22:32 <shadi> ...then will merge them together
14:22:50 <shadi> ...planning to meet again to align content
14:23:10 <shadi> SH: estimate of time for this?
14:23:38 <shadi> SM: expecting a draft in a couple of weeks
14:23:47 <Zakim> -silvia_mirri
14:23:54 <shadi> scribe: silvia_mirri
14:23:56 <shadi> ack me
14:23:59 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:24:05 <silvia_mirri> zakim, IPcaller is me
14:24:05 <Zakim> +silvia_mirri; got it
14:24:06 <silvia_mirri> sorry
14:24:53 <silvia_mirri> zakim, mute me
14:24:53 <Zakim> silvia_mirri should now be muted
14:24:58 <Vivienne> ack me
14:25:01 <shadi> zakim, mute me
14:25:01 <Zakim> Shadi should now be muted
14:25:02 <Vivienne> q+
14:25:05 <sharper> ack v
14:25:43 <silvia_mirri> zakim, close item 13
14:25:43 <Zakim> agendum 13, Note Edit Status: eLearning, closed
14:25:44 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:25:44 <Zakim> 4. Symposium Status: Web-of-Things [from shadi, klaus via sharper]
14:25:49 <silvia_mirri> zakim, close item 6
14:25:49 <Zakim> agendum 6, Symposium Status: Wearables, closed
14:25:50 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:25:50 <Zakim> 4. Symposium Status: Web-of-Things [from shadi, klaus via sharper]
14:25:56 <silvia_mirri> zakim, close item 4
14:25:56 <Zakim> agendum 4, Symposium Status: Web-of-Things, closed
14:25:57 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:25:57 <Zakim> 5. Symposium Status: Big Data [from sharper, all via sharper]
14:26:02 <silvia_mirri> zakim, close item 5
14:26:02 <Zakim> agendum 5, Symposium Status: Big Data, closed
14:26:03 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:26:03 <Zakim> 7. Symposium Status: Web Inclusion [from all via sharper]
14:26:10 <silvia_mirri> zakim, close item 7
14:26:10 <Zakim> agendum 7, Symposium Status: Web Inclusion, closed
14:26:11 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:26:11 <Zakim> 14. STANDING  - https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/open [from sharper]
14:26:40 <shadi> [[3rd december is international day of persons with disabilities]]
14:26:43 <silvia_mirri> Vivienne: the symposium on accessible wayfinding could be on December 1st
14:26:50 <shadi> q+
14:26:54 <shadi> ack me
14:26:56 <sharper> acjk s
14:27:00 <sharper> ack shadi
14:27:15 <christos> +1
14:27:30 <silvia_mirri> Shadi: 3rd december is international day of persons with disabilities; that date could be a good idea
14:27:57 <silvia_mirri> the call for paper should be 7th Septemeber
14:28:01 <silvia_mirri> September
14:28:36 <shadi> zakim, mute me
14:28:36 <Zakim> Shadi should now be muted
14:28:54 <silvia_mirri> Vivienne: if everybody is happy with that we can do with way
14:29:22 <silvia_mirri> Christos: I'm going to work on that
14:29:34 <silvia_mirri> SH: any other business?
14:29:44 <silvia_mirri> you are welcome!
14:29:49 <giorgio> bye
14:29:51 <Vivienne> good night all
14:29:52 <silvia_mirri> see you!
14:29:54 <silvia_mirri> bye
14:29:55 <Zakim> -christos
14:29:56 <sharper> sharper has left #rd
14:29:58 <Zakim> -sharper
14:30:00 <Zakim> -Shadi
14:30:02 <Zakim> -giorgio
14:30:07 <Zakim> -Vivienne
14:30:30 <Zakim> -silvia_mirri
14:30:32 <Zakim> WAI_RDWG()9:30AM has ended
14:30:32 <Zakim> Attendees were Shadi, christos, silvia_mirri, giorgio, sharper, Vivienne
14:34:34 <shadi> trackbot, end meeting
14:34:34 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
14:34:34 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
14:34:42 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:34:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/07/30-rd-minutes.html trackbot
14:34:43 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
14:34:43 <RRSAgent> I see no action items