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12:57:28 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DWBP
12:57:28 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see DATA_DWBP()9:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
12:57:29 <trackbot> Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
12:57:29 <trackbot> Date: 25 July 2014
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12:59:55 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller is me
12:59:55 <Zakim> +antoine; got it
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13:00:28 <phila> phila has changed the topic to: DWBP Weekly agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20140725
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13:00:54 <phila> zakim, ipcaller is me
13:00:54 <Zakim> +phila; got it
13:01:06 <MTCarrasco> zakim,  ??P8 is me
13:01:06 <Zakim> +MTCarrasco; got it
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13:02:29 <phila> zakim, who is here?
13:02:29 <Zakim> On the phone I see antoine, MTCarrasco, phila, Yaso
13:02:31 <Zakim> On IRC I see yaso, nathalia, newton, MTCarrasco, JoaoPauloAlmeida, antoine, RRSAgent, Zakim, HadleyBeeman, phila, trackbot
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13:02:44 <Zakim> +flavio, newton; got it
13:02:44 <newton> yaso has newton, flavio
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13:04:58 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, pick a victim
13:04:58 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose flavio
13:05:10 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> IPcaller is me
13:05:18 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, IPcaller is me
13:05:18 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
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13:05:45 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, pick a victim
13:05:45 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose MTCarrasco
13:05:50 <yaso> Chair: HadleyBeeman
13:06:04 <phila> scribe: MTCarrasco
13:06:09 <HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-07-11
13:06:37 <phila> PROPOSED: Accept last minutes
13:06:46 <phila> +1
13:06:46 <antoine> +1
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13:07:22 <MTCarrasco> I am willing to try to scribe, but I need administrative help
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13:08:29 <phila> RESOLVED: Accept last minutes
13:08:36 <Caroline_> +1
13:08:41 <newton> zakim, yaso has Caroline_
13:08:41 <Zakim> +Caroline_; got it
13:09:19 <phila> HadleyBeeman: Encourages everyone to register for TPAC
13:09:39 <phila> -> http://www.w3.org/2014/11/TPAC/ TPAC Details
13:10:05 <Zakim> + +44.122.333.aabb
13:10:15 <phila> topic: Actions
13:10:21 <markharrison> Zakim, aabb is markharrison
13:10:22 <Zakim> +markharrison; got it
13:10:28 <Zakim> + +1.516.353.aacc
13:10:44 <phila> HadleyBeeman: There was a discussion 2 weeks ago about how to make these meetings more discusion based with more discussion on e-mail
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13:10:53 <adler1> hello everyone
13:11:03 <phila> ... but this meeting is meant to be issues & actions, next week will be more discussion-y
13:11:13 <phila> ... which for non-native speakers is not a word ;-)
13:11:16 <MTCarrasco> Phil I have a problem hearing
13:11:22 <HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/open
13:11:36 <phila> action-32?
13:11:36 <trackbot> action-32 -- Hadley Beeman to Write email on discoverable data vs data catalogues -- due 2014-05-16 -- OPEN
13:11:36 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/32
13:11:51 <phila> HadleyBeeman: I've just finished a project and so have more time to do that before next week
13:11:55 <phila> action-46/
13:11:55 <trackbot> action-46 -- Yaso Córdova to Generate/collate further use cases concerning iot, transport, privacy -- due 2014-06-13 -- OPEN
13:11:55 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/46
13:12:19 <phila> yaso: I'm still working on that, sorry. I'll close this action in the next week
13:12:26 <phila> HadleyBeeman: Do you uave what you need?
13:12:42 <phila> yaso: No. I think in the last meeting I was offered some help
13:12:51 <phila> ... but my colleage Renaldo went to the WoT workshop
13:13:25 <phila> phila: you might find this useful, yaso http://www.w3.org/2014/02/wot/report
13:13:39 <phila> ... it's not yet published but if you know where to look... ;-)
13:14:10 <phila> yaso: I want to write a use case but the problem is that the companies don't want to open their data
13:14:18 <phila> ... but we are working on an alternative
13:15:26 <phila> ericstephan: I'm in the process of writing a use case related to the data management facility. That's for scientific means - we bring in various aspects of DWBP so that can be looked at to see if it's applicable
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13:15:52 <phila> yaso: I talked to some IoT people. They work with tracking big trucks in Brazil using sensors. They mentiuoned that they use their own protocols, not the Web
13:15:58 <newton> Zakim, yaso has nathalia_
13:15:58 <Zakim> +nathalia_; got it
13:16:09 <phila> ... but I'm still curious about it as at some points they'll use the Web. It's all very proprietary
13:16:18 <phila> ericstephan: Our use case is more WoT than IoT
13:16:41 <phila> yaso: I think we can continue this by e-mail, but I'm almost at the conclusion that the hardware that people use is important
13:16:55 <phila> ... it defines the kind of protocols that they use
13:16:55 <markharrison> For track and trace, GS1 has developed open standards for exchange of event data within organisations and across supply chains - see the GS1 EPCIS standard http://www.gs1.org/gsmp/kc/epcglobal/epcis
13:17:05 <phila> yaso: where the data is stored etc
13:17:14 <markharrison> +q
13:17:16 <phila> yaso: I'll write about that
13:17:25 <phila> ericstephan: I'll get some text to you this w/e
13:17:28 <phila> ack markharrison
13:17:59 <phila> markharrison: GS1 has developed a relevant standard for track & trace. That might be of interest. We have some comapanies doing pilots
13:18:07 <ericstephan> do you have a link for this Mark?
13:18:11 <phila> ... healthcare, produce. Might be some use casesa from that work
13:18:15 <phila> q+
13:18:21 <phila> ack phila
13:18:54 <HadleyBeeman> phila: How closely does that GS1 standard overlap with this group's work?  If not at all, should we interact with it?
13:18:59 <ericstephan> s/Mark/markharrison/
13:19:32 <phila> markharrison: I raised it in reponse to Yaso's comments about tracking trucks etc. But I think there are potential areas of overlap.
13:19:40 <ericstephan> thank you, great
13:19:42 <phila> ... one is on the WoT and the other is on geolocation
13:19:52 <phila> ... which is event data, which has a location component
13:20:05 <phila> ... and it also has relation to the Social Web WG work as that is also event data
13:20:21 <phila> ... it's an open data model for event data - what where when why etc.
13:20:32 <phila> ... it's all agnostic to how the data is stored underneath
13:20:44 <phila> ... there's no LD binding, it'as all XML and WS*
13:20:46 <flavio> I need to leave...
13:20:48 <flavio> bye
13:20:53 <phila> ... but is potentially relevant to a nuymber of W3C Activities
13:20:59 <yaso> Bye, Tks Flavio
13:21:11 <phila> ... we can certainly contribute some uase cases about what is being collected and shared
13:21:18 <phila> ... prob is it may be competitive info etc
13:22:03 <HadleyBeeman> new Social Web activities at W3C: http://www.w3.org/2014/06/social.html.en
13:22:48 <ericstephan> +q
13:22:59 <Zakim> -??P14
13:23:14 <Zakim> +??P14
13:23:33 <phila> markharrison: not it's not irrelevant because it's not LD :-)
13:23:39 <MTCarrasco> q+
13:23:53 <phila> ericstephan: Some things on the WoT get introcued by a human operator doing an experiement etc.
13:24:17 <phila> ... so you perhaps need to think about that background. And Social Web is interesting in that context
13:24:21 <phila> q- ericstephan
13:24:27 <phila> ack MTCarrasco
13:24:52 <phila> MTCarrasco: I agree with this discussion - there's a huge overlap here. We're all looking at the same elephant from a differnet direction
13:25:09 <phila> ... the data is a common thread - there's ahuge overlap
13:25:14 <phila> s/ahuge/a huge/
13:25:34 <markharrison> +q
13:25:40 <phila> MTCarrasco: I'm not sure how to include it all etc.
13:25:45 <HadleyBeeman> ack mark
13:25:55 <phila> markharrison: EPCIS is primarily about abservations of things at places and times.
13:26:13 <phila> ... it doesn't currently handle sensor data in its current form, but it could contrinute to a future W3C WG
13:26:31 <phila> ... that might work in the geo WG
13:26:41 <phila> -> http://www.w3.org/2014/05/geo-charter Spatial data WG (proposed)
13:27:04 <phila> markharrison: It's important, I think, that W3C has a coherent events data model, whether it's about organisations, or things, otr people
13:27:16 <phila> phila takes note, thanks Mark
13:27:24 <phila> s/otr/or/
13:27:47 <phila> HadleyBeeman: I agree that events is something that will hit a number of areas
13:27:53 <HadleyBeeman> http://www.gs1.org/gsmp/kc/epcglobal/cbv
13:28:04 <phila> markharrison: And there's the Core Business Vocabulary for things like transaction identifiers etc
13:28:33 <phila> action-51?
13:28:33 <trackbot> action-51 -- Eric Stephan to Work with sumitpurohit to put a wiki page together showing other examples of closed data that may not be in the ucr -- due 2014-06-27 -- OPEN
13:28:33 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/51
13:28:42 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> events or ocurrences is one area of "foundation ontology" that will anyway affect "domain ontologies"
13:29:06 <ericstephan> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Closed_Data_Examples
13:29:20 <phila> ericstephan: OK, yes... not sure I I sent this out but Sumit and I put some egs together ^
13:29:49 <phila> ... they're points for conversation. Just some thoughts we had for different types of example that relate to open data but don't specifically fit into the OD categoty
13:29:56 <phila> ... feedback would be welcome
13:30:13 <phila> ... it would be good to be able to list more use cases that relate to some of these aspectrs
13:30:26 <phila> phila: Cue Deirdre
13:30:39 <phila> deirdrelee: That's the kind of feedback I'm looking for from my last e-mail
13:30:51 <phila> ... I wanted to give people a chance to talk about this sort of thing on these calls
13:31:05 <phila> ... should these be included or not, what actual use cases do we need/have
13:31:24 <phila> ... if I look at the other networks I'm in (Share-PSI etc.) then this is a helpful reference point
13:31:31 <phila> ... so see my e-mail on this
13:31:41 <markharrison> +q to say that I might be able to contribute examples of closed / access-restricted data from supply chain traceability e.g. for pharmaceuticals
13:31:43 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman
13:32:04 <phila> ericstephan: to me this represents an opportunity to connect with communities who don't necessarily see themselves as being part of the data on the Web
13:32:11 <MTCarrasco> q+
13:32:15 <phila> adler1: so this is data behind the firewall
13:32:34 <phila> adler1: What about data shared within an organisation but not publicly - that's open data from that company's POV
13:32:47 <phila> ericstephan: Yeah, we have data like that, open to the community but not the world
13:32:51 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman
13:33:04 <phila> adler1: I'm seeing increased interest in 'open behind the firewall data'
13:33:32 <phila> ... corproations the size of mine with vast amounts of data. We can open it internally and ask developers in diff departments to use that
13:33:43 <phila> ericstephan: I like the idea of calling that open data within a corporate body
13:34:05 <phila> ... but I've been reluctatnt to call it open data
13:34:27 <phila> adler1: There are interesting privacy issues. A lot of the data we're talking about is personal, customer info, etc.
13:34:39 <phila> ... so the privacy rules are very challenging, even behind the firewall
13:34:49 <HadleyBeeman> q+
13:34:51 <phila> ... it requires new types of authorisation engines
13:35:17 <phila> ... e.g. sharing bank data among otehr banks, within and outwith the EU etc.
13:35:25 <phila> ... makes in interesting matrix of controls
13:35:36 <phila> ... different from open or not discussion
13:35:46 <phila> ... it's 'publish and control'
13:36:07 <phila> adler1: I think a lot of what we're doing around DCAT+ is relevant but the rules are very complicatewd
13:36:12 <phila> ack markharrison
13:36:12 <Zakim> markharrison, you wanted to say that I might be able to contribute examples of closed / access-restricted data from supply chain traceability e.g. for pharmaceuticals
13:36:34 <phila> markharrison: on closed vs open, we have situations where data is being expressed and exchanged in open format but very restricted distribution
13:36:44 <phila> ... it's open data formats and ideas from point to point
13:37:16 <phila> ... on the auth engine complexity - is there an unbroken chain of trust between the info requester and the provier when there is no direct connectsion. ege a retailer many links along the chain from a manufacturer
13:37:18 <phila> q+
13:37:21 <phila> ack MTCarrasco
13:37:48 <ericstephan> perhaps open data only is one direction in some cases as opposed to bidirectional
13:37:57 <phila> MTCarrasco: Talking about open data - more like OD style of publishing. We don't have HTTP for intranet and a diff one for the public, just the firewall in the middle
13:38:06 <phila> ... one has to think in terms of access control lists
13:38:15 <phila> ... open to individuals, groups and the worl
13:38:20 <phila> HadleyBeeman: +1
13:38:41 <Zakim> -??P14
13:38:46 <phila> ... when we were working on LD in the GLD, some of it was behind the firewall, some was internal. It doesn't mean using diff architecture, it's the same
13:38:55 <phila> ack HadleyBeeman
13:39:02 <Zakim> +??P14
13:39:03 <phila> ... and that's in scope for DWBP
13:39:08 <phila> q-
13:39:43 <phila> close action-51
13:39:43 <trackbot> Closed action-51.
13:39:52 <markharrison> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Guidance_on_the_Provision_of_Metadata#Intrinsic_vs_Extrinsic_Metadata
13:39:56 <phila> action-54?
13:39:56 <trackbot> action-54 -- Mark Harrison to Write to write up definitions on intrinsic metadata -- due 2014-07-04 -- OPEN
13:39:56 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/54
13:40:22 <phila> markharrison: So far I've written lists of what I think are different in|extrinsic metadata
13:40:31 <phila> ... there have been diagrams and discussion about whether they are helpful
13:40:46 <phila> ... Bernadette suggested having examples of different types
13:40:55 <phila> HadleyBeeman: Does anyone have any comments
13:41:01 <antoine> q+
13:41:04 <MTCarrasco> q+
13:41:16 <phila> ack antoine
13:41:45 <phila> antoine: I was involved in this discussion. I wasn't convinced by the diagrams. Maybe the examples can be useful but I ...
13:41:59 <phila> ... see need to change the text
13:42:04 <phila> ack MTCarrasco
13:42:30 <phila> MTCarrasco: Cutting the metadata into fine pieces...  what do you call all the data associated with a resource?
13:42:43 <phila> ... in the same time, in the resource you may have differnet variants of the resource
13:43:02 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> does it make sense to talk about "all data"?
13:43:02 <phila> ... all the info associated with the resource. Is it variants?
13:43:02 <antoine> q+
13:43:07 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> in an open world?
13:43:16 <phila> markharrison: Thats' why I tried to break it down into intrinsic and extrinsic metadata
13:43:30 <phila> ... that's how I tried to split it (whether I succeeded or not)
13:43:53 <phila> MTCarrasco: Did you call the variants in the data part of the metadata or the data?
13:43:59 <phila> ... eg the Teaty of Rome
13:44:13 <phila> ... you have a URI, but there are differnet formats, langauges etc
13:44:22 <phila> q+ to talk about versioned assets
13:44:35 <phila> markharrison: Diff representation of the same thing
13:45:10 <phila> markharrison: I would say that's metadata that is extrinsic. The Treaty of Rome has the same info irrespective of language and format
13:45:27 <phila> ... they're outside the graph of the data. So I'd say they're metadata
13:45:38 <phila> ... formats, variants and language translations are all important
13:46:03 <phila> MTCarrasco: I don't mind how this things are categorised. The variant list is still part of the metadata
13:46:16 <phila> HadleyBeeman: cuts discussion short for time
13:46:23 <adler1> sad that the discussion has ended
13:46:31 <phila> q-
13:46:49 <antoine> q-
13:46:50 <phila> q- antoine
13:46:55 <adler1> I was just beginning to understand what they were talking about :-)
13:47:06 <phila> HadleyBeeman: Please carry that on via e-mail
13:47:17 <phila> action: markharrison to continue this discussion by e-mail
13:47:17 <trackbot> Created ACTION-60 - Continue this discussion by e-mail [on Mark Harrison - due 2014-08-01].
13:47:27 <HadleyBeeman> action-55?
13:47:27 <trackbot> action-55 -- Eric Stephan to Seek feedback on json-ld version of dcat schema, using, for example http://rdf-translator.appspot.com/ with http://www.w3.org/ns/dcat.ttl -- due 2014-07-17 -- OPEN
13:47:27 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/55
13:47:45 <adler1> q+
13:47:57 <phila> ack adler1
13:47:58 <HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/open
13:48:11 <phila> adler1: I think I sent out a note last week about the Open data Africa event
13:48:12 <deirdrelee> q+
13:48:20 <phila> q- adler
13:48:47 <phila> adler1: Next week the White House is hosting a big meeting for African leaders around open data issues. I'm working with a bunch of agencies ot host an open data jam
13:49:02 <phila> ... to help African countries to improve their open data work
13:49:03 <ericstephan> That sounds so exciting, wish I could be there....
13:49:22 <phila> ... looking to find developers who can help this happen
13:49:37 <phila> ... event will be simulcast in audio
13:49:45 <MTCarrasco> *All* the information associated with a resource is metadata: Dublin Core, variants (language, formats), etc.
13:49:49 <phila> ... should be first of many data jams for Africa
13:50:04 <phila> ... we'll be at IBM's beuolding a block from the Whitehouse
13:50:09 <phila> ... ambassadors etc.
13:50:16 <HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/open
13:50:20 <phila> Topic: Issues
13:50:24 <phila> issue-14?
13:50:24 <trackbot> issue-14 -- Improve Use case "Feedback Loop for Corrections" -- open
13:50:24 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/14
13:52:16 <ericstephan> +1 For having recommendation verification based on use cases
13:52:34 <phila> deirdrelee: I agree with that - UCs need eveidence so that the BPs that follow have ground truth
13:52:53 <phila> ... so yes, we need to go through the issues and make sure that we've addressed them in the UCR
13:53:04 <phila> action: deirdrelee to work through UCR issues
13:53:04 <trackbot> Error finding 'deirdrelee'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/users>.
13:53:12 <phila> action: deirdre to work through UCR issues
13:53:12 <trackbot> Created ACTION-61 - Work through ucr issues [on Deirdre Lee - due 2014-08-01].
13:53:21 <phila> issue-41?
13:53:21 <trackbot> issue-41 -- Update Use Case #4 - OKFN Tranport WG -- open
13:53:21 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/41
13:54:07 <phila> deirdrelee: This came out of a presentation I saw at EDF that I haven't been able to find.
13:54:13 <phila> HadleyBeeman: Leave it open for another week?
13:54:17 <phila> deirdrelee: Yep
13:54:27 <Zakim> -??P14
13:54:36 <HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/raised
13:54:44 <Zakim> +??P14
13:55:13 <phila> HadleyBeeman: Looks at diff between raised and open issues...
13:55:17 <ericstephan> is raise "suggested" versus open is agreed up by the wg
13:55:47 <antoine> yes, eric, raised issues may be not opened if they are not in scope.
13:56:07 <deirdrelee> q?
13:56:50 <ericstephan> +q
13:56:56 <phila> ack deirdrelee
13:57:11 <phila> ack ericstephan
13:57:14 <markharrison> "raised" appears to be unassigned to specific people, whereas actions are assigned to specific people
13:57:25 <phila> ericstephan: Just to thank Antoine and Phil for responding - I'll get back to you
13:57:40 <phila> deirdrelee: So this week in Ireland there's been a lot happening around open data.
13:57:49 <Zakim> -antoine
13:58:08 <phila> ... at the beginning of the year as had a contract with the Irish gov. Lots of local stuff but no national action.
13:58:17 <phila> ... they then joined OGP, opened the national data portal
13:58:41 <phila> ... put out a tender for an alpha version of the portal, best practices etc
13:58:46 <phila> ... all launched this week
13:58:51 <phila> HadleyBeeman: Congratulations
13:59:13 <phila> deirdrelee: There are lots of diff hand books and guidelines for people who may not be familiar with open data
13:59:28 <phila> ... and because I was one of the co-authors so I think that may be useful to this WG
13:59:37 <phila> ... I'll send the link to the actual report
13:59:46 <phila> ... the portal is very alpha, a basic CKAN instance
13:59:56 <phila> ... lots to do, few licnececs etc
14:00:11 <phila> ... hoping to build quality portal
14:00:20 <Zakim> - +1.516.353.aacc
14:00:21 <Zakim> -MTCarrasco
14:00:24 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida
14:00:26 <Zakim> -ericstephan
14:00:27 <phila> phila: +q to Hadley's congrats
14:00:28 <nathalia_> bye
14:00:29 <Zakim> -??P14
14:00:31 <Zakim> -Yaso
14:00:32 <Zakim> -markharrison
14:00:33 <Zakim> -phila
14:00:50 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is here?
14:00:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see +3539149aaaa, HadleyBeeman
14:00:52 <Zakim> On IRC I see CarlosIglesias, deirdrelee, markharrison, yaso, antoine, RRSAgent, Zakim, HadleyBeeman, phila, trackbot
14:00:53 <phila> rrsagent, make logs public
14:05:08 <Zakim> - +3539149aaaa
14:05:10 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman
14:05:10 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended
14:05:10 <Zakim> Attendees were antoine, phila, MTCarrasco, flavio, newton, HadleyBeeman, JoaoPauloAlmeida, ericstephan, +3539149aaaa, Caroline_, +44.122.333.aabb, markharrison, +1.516.353.aacc,
14:05:10 <Zakim> ... nathalia_
16:20:16 <Zakim> Zakim has left #dwbp