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15:34:02 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, this will be  WAI_CogTF
15:34:02 <Zakim> ok, Lisa_Seeman; I see WAI_CogTF()12:00PM scheduled to start in 26 minutes
15:35:10 <Lisa_Seeman> regrets:  Katherine Deibel, Steve lee, Liddy
15:35:25 <Lisa_Seeman> chair: Lisa_Seeman
15:35:50 <Lisa_Seeman> Action: Neil to review Input type numeri
15:35:50 <trackbot> Created ACTION-19 - Review input type numeri [on Neil Milliken - due 2014-07-21].
15:36:32 <Lisa_Seeman> Action: Debra Dahl  to review Emotion Markup
15:36:32 <trackbot> Created ACTION-20 - Dahl  to review emotion markup [on Debra Ruh - due 2014-07-21].
15:37:52 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda: this
15:37:54 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+ preview agenda
15:37:55 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+ set scribe
15:37:57 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+ What goes into first chunk. Reviewing user group findings
15:37:58 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+ what other technologies goes into first chunk
15:38:00 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+ Next steps
15:38:01 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ be done
15:51:26 <Zakim> WAI_CogTF()12:00PM has now started
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15:56:35 <JohnRochford> Zakim, aaaa is JohnRochford
15:56:35 <Zakim> +JohnRochford; got it
15:57:17 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, ??P0 is Lisa_Seeman
15:57:17 <Zakim> +Lisa_Seeman; got it
15:58:00 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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15:58:29 <Zakim> sorry, Lisa_Seeman, I do not recognize a party named '+[IPcaller]'
15:58:35 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, [IPcaller] is EA
15:58:35 <Zakim> +EA; got it
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15:59:39 <NeilMilliken> Zakim, +44.203 is NeilMilliken
15:59:39 <Zakim> +NeilMilliken; got it
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16:02:22 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, +1.780 is Kunshuk
16:02:22 <Zakim> +Kunshuk; got it
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16:03:18 <MaryJo> zakim, aaee is Susann_Keohane
16:03:18 <Zakim> +Susann_Keohane; got it
16:03:32 <Lisa_Seeman> scribe: JohnRochford
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16:03:47 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
16:03:47 <Zakim> agendum 1. "preview agenda" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
16:03:47 <Barry_Johnson> I'll get on the phone as soon as anthoer phone call ends... Sorry
16:03:53 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
16:03:53 <Zakim> agendum 1 was just opened, Lisa_Seeman
16:04:02 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, close item
16:04:02 <Zakim> I don't understand 'close item', Lisa_Seeman
16:04:13 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, close item
16:04:13 <Zakim> I don't understand 'close item', Lisa_Seeman
16:04:16 <Zakim> +Debbie_Dahl
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16:07:21 <JohnRochford> Lisa: W3C parent groups want our task force to meet deadlines. First one is to deliver a "chunk" for peer review.
16:08:04 <JohnRochford> Lisa: We must agree what to put in the "chunk" to be delivered.
16:08:39 <JohnRochford> The first "chunk" is background research and some technologies.
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16:10:16 <Zakim> +Rich_Schwerdtfeger
16:11:06 <Zakim> +Cooper
16:11:25 <NeilMilliken> q+
16:12:37 <Lisa_Seeman> ack neil
16:12:44 <Lisa_Seeman> q+
16:13:35 <Zakim> + +1.202.453.aaff
16:13:50 <Barry_Johnson> 202 is Barry_Johnson
16:15:18 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Gap analyses are educational. People are used to thinking in terms of specific disabilities when considering accessibility.
16:15:42 <EA> I agree with that idea as we all use different terms
16:15:45 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
16:15:50 <Lisa_Seeman> ack lisa
16:16:16 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/Dyslexia
16:17:26 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
16:17:26 <Zakim> agendum 2. "set scribe" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
16:17:28 <Zakim> +Janina
16:17:32 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
16:17:32 <Zakim> agendum 2 was just opened, Lisa_Seeman
16:17:40 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, close item
16:17:40 <Zakim> I don't understand 'close item', Lisa_Seeman
16:17:45 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Are people content with submitting the Dyslexia gap analysis?
16:18:02 <JohnRochford> Agree with a +1.
16:18:06 <JohnRochford> +1
16:19:24 <NeilMilliken> +1
16:19:27 <Barry_Johnson> +1 - This looks really good Lisa. Very Detailed.
16:19:29 <MaryJo> +1
16:19:33 <Kinshuk> +1
16:19:46 <ddahl> +1
16:20:02 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/Dyscalculia
16:20:14 <EA> +1 on dyslexia
16:20:20 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Dyslexia gap analysis will be submitted, based upon votes.
16:20:28 <Lisa_Seeman> +1 on Dyscalculia
16:21:21 <JohnRochford> Lisa: We should review Dyscalculia next.
16:21:28 <Barry_Johnson> Should a Note be added - like the one in Dyslexia?
16:22:17 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Please indicate agreement for submission of Dyscalculia by a +1. Otherwise, please comment about any edits needed.
16:22:18 <richardschwerdtfeger> q+
16:22:38 <richardschwerdtfeger> q?
16:22:43 <Lisa_Seeman> action: neil to remove todo boxes
16:22:43 <trackbot> Created ACTION-21 - Remove todo boxes [on Neil Milliken - due 2014-07-21].
16:22:56 <Lisa_Seeman> ack rich
16:22:57 <EA> Neil what about these references from Clare Trott http://publications.lboro.ac.uk/publications/all/collated/mact2.html for dyscalculia
16:25:25 <JohnRochford> Rich: About Dyslexia gap analysis - should we say we will rely upon third-party applications for such technologies such as TTS, or should we say such technologies should be built in.
16:26:33 <NeilMilliken> actually ios already does it EA
16:26:44 <NeilMilliken> or rather IOS8Beta3
16:28:15 <JohnRochford> Lisa: This issue will be addressed by the techniques page/section.
16:28:50 <EA> +1 on dyscalculia
16:29:12 <Barry_Johnson> Dyscalculia - +1
16:29:30 <JohnRochford> Dyscalculia +1
16:29:36 <Lisa_Seeman> action: neil to add link to Clare Trott  to gap analisis
16:29:36 <trackbot> Created ACTION-22 - Add link to clare trott  to gap analisis [on Neil Milliken - due 2014-07-21].
16:30:13 <Lisa_Seeman> action: lisa t write into to chunk 1 and send to list
16:30:13 <trackbot> Created ACTION-23 - T write into to chunk 1 and send to list [on Lisa Seeman - due 2014-07-21].
16:30:15 <JohnRochford> Lisa: I will have to write an introduction.
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16:31:07 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/Aging_and_Dementia#Dementia_and_Cognitive_Decline
16:31:24 <Zakim> +??P12
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16:32:30 <JohnRochford> Susann & MaryJo: We thought the deadline was in a few weeks.
16:32:31 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, +??P12 is stevelee
16:32:31 <Zakim> sorry, Lisa_Seeman, I do not recognize a party named '+??P12'
16:32:38 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, ??P12 is stevelee
16:32:38 <Zakim> +stevelee; got it
16:33:03 <JohnRochford> Susann & MaryJo: We thought the deadline was in a few weeks to complete the Aging and Dementia gap analysis.
16:33:03 <JF> zakim, slee is stevelee
16:33:03 <Zakim> sorry, JF, I do not recognize a party named 'slee'
16:33:22 <EA> ADD does seem to have quite a few 'to dos'
16:33:46 <Zakim> -Janina
16:34:37 <JohnRochford> Susann: Recent changes may need to be added and/or reviewed for the A&D gap analysis.
16:34:52 <Zakim> +Janina
16:35:55 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Is it possible that the A&D gap analysis could be completed by tomorrow so that the group could vote on it via the listserv.
16:37:10 <JohnRochford> Susann: Yes.
16:39:19 <JohnRochford> Lisa: I am concerned there was a lot of material that people were mentioning that is not now in the A&D gap analysis.
16:39:21 <MaryJo> q+
16:42:35 <JohnRochford> MaryJo: Some of the material was behind a pay wall.
16:42:38 <EA> Those of us at universities may be able to help provide access to papers
16:42:57 <Zakim> - +1.202.453.aaff
16:43:45 <JF> Q+
16:43:47 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
16:43:58 <Lisa_Seeman> ack maryjo
16:44:04 <JohnRochford> Susann & MaryJo: Respond affirmatively to Lisa's question if the material in question could be added by the end of July.
16:45:10 <Kinshuk> I need to log off.. conflict with another unavoidable appointment....
16:45:10 <JohnRochford> JF: Katie is "snowed under" at work, but will ping her to contact Susann.
16:45:24 <Zakim> -Kunshuk
16:46:06 <JohnRochford> JF: Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.
16:47:27 <JohnRochford> slee: We should follow the open source model of release early, release often.
16:47:40 <slee> :)
16:49:48 <JohnRochford> JF: I don't think it's a problem to wait two weeks for the A&D gap analysis.
16:49:53 <richardschwerdtfeger> +1 to waiting 2 weeks
16:50:03 <NeilMilliken> Happy to wait 2 weeks
16:50:17 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Do we agree it is okay to wait two weeks for the A&D gap analysis?
16:50:36 <JohnRochford> John: +1 on waiting 2 weeks
16:50:53 <JF> +! for an extra 2 weeks
16:51:01 <JF> s/+!/+1
16:51:06 <EA> +1 on waiting 2 weeks
16:51:11 <Zakim> -Rich_Schwerdtfeger
16:51:28 <Lisa_Seeman> action: maryjoe and suzann_keohane to implement coment on aging group
16:51:28 <trackbot> Error finding 'maryjoe'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
16:51:50 <Lisa_Seeman> action: lisa and steve to add reserch to  aging group
16:51:51 <trackbot> Created ACTION-24 - And steve to add reserch to  aging group [on Lisa Seeman - due 2014-07-21].
16:52:10 <JF> action: maryjo and suzann_keohane to implement coment on aging group
16:52:10 <trackbot> Created ACTION-25 - And suzann_keohane to implement coment on aging group [on Mary Jo Mueller - due 2014-07-21].
16:52:17 <Zakim> -Janina
16:52:17 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/non-vocal
16:52:30 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/aphasia
16:52:45 <Lisa_Seeman> proposal to merge asphasi and non vocal
16:52:49 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Should we merge aphasia with non-vocal?
16:52:56 <Lisa_Seeman> EA +1
16:52:59 <Lisa_Seeman> +1
16:53:03 <EA> +1 on merge of Aphasia and Non-vocal
16:53:08 <JohnRochford> +1 on merge
16:53:18 <Zakim> +??P6
16:53:24 <janina_> zakim, ??P6 is me
16:53:24 <Zakim> +janina_; got it
16:54:18 <JohnRochford> EA: Will add aphasia content to non-vocal.
16:54:24 <Lisa_Seeman> Action: EA to merge asphasi and non vocal
16:54:24 <trackbot> Created ACTION-26 - Merge asphasi and non vocal [on E.A. Draffan - due 2014-07-21].
16:55:10 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/non-vocal
16:55:37 <Zakim> -JohnRochford
16:56:17 <EA> absolutely agree
16:57:58 <EA> that was agreement with making sure title for non-vocal includes Aphasia and other communication difficulties.
16:58:44 <ddahl> many people with aphasia are vocal, their problems have to do with reading and writing
16:58:46 <JF> Lisas skipped over Down's Syndrome: I have completed wikifying the following: https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/ds/Research_Module
16:59:33 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/ADHD
17:02:37 <Zakim> -Susann_Keohane
17:03:19 <Zakim> -Cooper
17:05:55 <Zakim> -Mary_Jo_Mueller
17:06:20 <Lisa_Seeman> thank you john
17:06:28 <Lisa_Seeman> sorry JF
17:06:40 <Zakim> -janina_
17:08:31 <Zakim> -JF
17:08:40 <slee> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/minutes
17:08:47 <Zakim> -NeilMilliken
17:09:14 <Zakim> -Debbie_Dahl
17:09:51 <Zakim> -stevelee
17:09:57 <Lisa_Seeman> rrsagent, make logs public
17:09:57 <Zakim> -EA
17:10:06 <Lisa_Seeman> rrsagent, draft minutes
17:10:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/07/14-coga-minutes.html Lisa_Seeman
17:10:13 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, please part
17:10:13 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were +1.508.856.aaaa, JohnRochford, Lisa_Seeman, EA, JF, +44.203.618.aabb, NeilMilliken, +1.780.934.aacc, +1.780.934.aadd, Mary_Jo_Mueller,
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17:10:19 <Lisa_Seeman> rrsagent, please part
17:10:19 <RRSAgent> I see 9 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2014/07/14-coga-actions.rdf :
17:10:19 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Neil to review Input type numeri [1]
17:10:19 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/07/14-coga-irc#T15-35-50
17:10:19 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Debra Dahl  to review Emotion Markup [2]
17:10:19 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/07/14-coga-irc#T15-36-32
17:10:19 <RRSAgent> ACTION: neil to remove todo boxes [3]
17:10:19 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/07/14-coga-irc#T16-22-43
17:10:19 <RRSAgent> ACTION: neil to add link to Clare Trott  to gap analisis [4]
17:10:19 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/07/14-coga-irc#T16-29-36
17:10:19 <RRSAgent> ACTION: lisa t write into to chunk 1 and send to list [5]
17:10:19 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/07/14-coga-irc#T16-30-13
17:10:19 <RRSAgent> ACTION: maryjoe and suzann_keohane to implement coment on aging group [6]
17:10:19 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/07/14-coga-irc#T16-51-28
17:10:19 <RRSAgent> ACTION: lisa and steve to add reserch to  aging group [7]
17:10:19 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/07/14-coga-irc#T16-51-50
17:10:19 <RRSAgent> ACTION: maryjo and suzann_keohane to implement coment on aging group [8]
17:10:19 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/07/14-coga-irc#T16-52-10
17:10:19 <RRSAgent> ACTION: EA to merge asphasi and non vocal [9]
17:10:19 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/07/14-coga-irc#T16-54-24