IRC log of webtv on 2014-07-09

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12:58:30 [kaz]
zakim, call kazuyuki-617
12:58:30 [Zakim]
sorry, kaz, I don't know what conference this is
12:58:34 [paul_higgs]
why does the irc window say "Fourth W3C Web & TV Workshop, 12-13 March 2014"?
12:58:38 [kaz]
zakim, this will be webtv
12:58:38 [Zakim]
ok, kaz; I see UW_WebTVIG()9:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
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kaz has changed the topic to: Web&TV call
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thanks
12:59:15 [kaz]
zakim, call kazuyuki-617
12:59:15 [Zakim]
ok, kaz; the call is being made
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+Kazuyuki
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+Paul_Higgs
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+ +1.650.946.aaaa
13:00:35 [kaz]
zakim, aaaa is Bin_Hu
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+Bin_Hu; got it
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zakim, aaaa is me
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sorry, Bin_Hu, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'
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+ +1.415.832.aabb
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+??P15
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zakim, ??P15 is me
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+ddavis; got it
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+[IPcaller]
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zakim, IPcaller is yosuke
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+yosuke; got it
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+[IPcaller]
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zakim, IPcaller is skim13
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+skim13; got it
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+ +1.720.934.aacc
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zakim, who is here?
13:03:10 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Kazuyuki, Paul_Higgs, Bin_Hu, +1.415.832.aabb, ddavis, yosuke, skim13, +1.720.934.aacc
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On IRC I see kaz, geguchi, yosuke, Bin_Hu, ddavis, RRSAgent, Zakim, paul_higgs, skim13, jcverdie, MarkS, tobie, sangwhan, timeless__, trackbot
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+ +1.818.370.aadd
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zakim, aacc is Clarke
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+Clarke; got it
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zakim, aadd is Glenn_Deen
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+Glenn_Deen; got it
13:04:22 [kaz]
zakim, who is here?
13:04:22 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Kazuyuki, Paul_Higgs, Bin_Hu, +1.415.832.aabb, ddavis, yosuke, skim13, Clarke, Glenn_Deen
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Zakim, aabb is geguchi
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On IRC I see kaz, geguchi, yosuke, Bin_Hu, ddavis, RRSAgent, Zakim, paul_higgs, skim13, jcverdie, MarkS, tobie, sangwhan, timeless__, trackbot
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+geguchi; got it
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scribe: Kaz
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scribenick: kaz
13:06:10 [kaz_]
topic: Reviewers
13:06:23 [yosuke]
https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Media_APIs#Iterations_and_Timeline
13:06:27 [kaz_]
yosuke: need to assign the reviewers to all the 2nd round UCs
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... and would see the schedule above
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... please see the 2nd iteration part
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... would choose reviewers
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[[
13:07:49 [kaz_]
The Second Iteration of work will proceed according to the following schedule: May 28, 2014 (conf call): last chance to submit UCs for inclusion in this iteration Jun 25, 2014 (conf call): final list of use cases included in this iteration Jul 23, 2014 (conf call): publish the first draft note on requirement extraction and gap analysis Aug 20, 2014 (conf call): decide what group we should have joint sessions during TPAC 2014 Oct 1, 2014 (conf call): finalize requir
13:07:50 [kaz_]
]]
13:07:55 [yosuke]
https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/New_Ideas
13:08:09 [kaz_]
yosuke: the above is the new use cases from the 2nd iteration
13:08:22 [kaz_]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-and-tv/2014Jul/0000.html
13:08:51 [yosuke]
https://docs.google.com/a/funahashi.cc/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ai2CSN-beIq8dE5NQ2g1UzJvVlQzNnlGNmxkSUlselE&usp=sharing_erl#gid=0
13:09:34 [kaz_]
yosuke: the above spreadsheet should be the starting point
13:09:47 [kaz_]
zakim, who is here?
13:09:47 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Kazuyuki, Paul_Higgs, Bin_Hu, geguchi, ddavis, yosuke, skim13, Clarke, Glenn_Deen
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On IRC I see kaz_, geguchi, yosuke, Bin_Hu, ddavis, RRSAgent, Zakim, paul_higgs, skim13, jcverdie, MarkS, tobie, sangwhan, timeless__, trackbot
13:09:54 [kaz_]
yosuke: questions?
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13:10:26 [yosuke]
https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/New_Ideas
13:10:30 [kaz_]
yosuke: let's look at each us case
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s/us /use /
13:10:50 [kaz_]
yosuke: UC2-1: Audio Fingerprinting
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... anybody interested?
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(no responses)
13:11:53 [kaz_]
ddavis: happy to do that
13:12:08 [Zakim]
+Jean-Charles
13:12:20 [kaz_]
yosuke: would be better to have a different reviewer :)
13:12:34 [kaz_]
yosuke: will be the reviewer for 2-1
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... next, UC2-2: Audio Watermarking
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... anybody?
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(no responses)
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yosuke: will take this as well since it's similar to 2-1
13:13:47 [kaz_]
... next, UC2-3: Identical Media Stream Synchronization?
13:14:08 [paul_higgs]
can you clarify what is expected in a review?
13:14:10 [kaz_]
... maybe kaz?
13:14:12 [kaz_]
kaz: ok :)
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yosuke: next, UC2-4: Related Media Stream Synchronization?
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... similar to 2-3
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... maybe kaz again?
13:14:59 [kaz_]
kaz: ok
13:15:28 [kaz_]
yosuke: UC2-5: Triggered Interactive Overlay?
13:15:40 [kaz_]
ddavis: happy to do it
13:15:56 [kaz_]
yosuke: there are JP needs, so can help you
13:16:03 [kaz_]
ddavis: tx
13:16:22 [kaz_]
yosuke: UC2-6: Clean Audio
13:17:17 [kaz_]
ddavis: could do it, but I was the submitter
13:17:23 [kaz_]
... so better to have somebody else
13:17:32 [kaz_]
yosuke: ok
13:17:42 [kaz_]
... will review it as the primary reviewer
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yosuke: assignment is done
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... would like to ask the possible second reviewers
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... anybody?
13:19:00 [kaz_]
Bin_Hu: happy to do
13:19:07 [kaz_]
yosuke: which UC?
13:19:32 [kaz_]
Bin_Hu: UC2-1
13:20:17 [kaz_]
yosuke: What about UC2-2?
13:20:58 [Zakim]
+EricP
13:21:15 [kaz_]
... Glenn, how about you?
13:21:40 [kaz_]
rrsagent, make log public
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rrsagent, draft minutes
13:21:44 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/07/09-webtv-minutes.html kaz_
13:22:23 [kaz_]
... what about you, Clarke?
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Clarke: which one?
13:23:13 [kaz_]
... driving and can't see the spreadsheet
13:23:30 [yosuke]
How abou "UC2-3 Identical Media Stream Synchronization"?
13:23:32 [kaz_]
zakim, who is here?
13:23:32 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Kazuyuki, Paul_Higgs, Bin_Hu, geguchi, ddavis, yosuke, skim13, Clarke, Glenn_Deen, Jean-Charles, wuwei (muted)
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On IRC I see wuwei, kaz_, geguchi, yosuke, Bin_Hu, ddavis, RRSAgent, Zakim, paul_higgs, skim13, jcverdie, MarkS, tobie, sangwhan, timeless__, trackbot
13:23:48 [kaz_]
yosuke: how about UC2-3?
13:23:52 [kaz_]
Clarke: ok
13:24:47 [kaz_]
kaz: you mean UC2-1 and UC2-2 forms a group
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... and UC2-3 and UC2-4 forms another group
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... right?
13:25:07 [kaz_]
yosuke: yes
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... anybody for UC2-6?
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yosuke: kaz?
13:26:22 [kaz_]
kaz: ok
13:26:58 [kaz_]
yosuke: tx for all the assigned reviewers
13:27:01 [ddavis]
q+
13:27:07 [kaz_]
q+
13:27:23 [kaz_]
ddavis: q on the task for the review
13:27:34 [kaz_]
... what is required?
13:28:25 [kaz_]
yosuke: we can generate the first draft and review it during the next call
13:28:38 [kaz_]
ddavis: improving UC first?
13:29:01 [kaz_]
yosuke: extracting requirements and polishing UC description
13:29:04 [kaz_]
q?
13:29:10 [kaz_]
ack ddavis
13:29:30 [ddavis]
kaz: I'm sorry I couldn't attend the previous call - I missed some timing discussion.
13:29:40 [ddavis]
kaz: I wonder if it's possible to include accessibility use cases as well.
13:30:00 [ddavis]
yosuke: We decided we would deal with accessibility activity in parallel with these use cases.
13:30:08 [kaz_]
... can we deal with the accessibility use cases as well?
13:30:15 [yosuke]
https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/New_Ideas#Other_Topics
13:30:45 [kaz_]
yosuke: we'll handle them as well
13:31:03 [kaz_]
... separately from the UC2-1...UC2-6
13:31:28 [ddavis]
kaz: I was wondering about a possible joint session with the accessibility group at TPAC.
13:31:29 [kaz_]
kaz: tx!
13:31:44 [ddavis]
yosuke: We may need some conference calls before TPAC.
13:31:55 [kaz_]
... btw, I was wondering about the possible joint session with the accessibility group during TPAC
13:32:01 [kaz_]
(change the order later)
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yosuke: can you make sure about the joint call, etc., with them?
13:32:44 [kaz_]
kaz: will talk with MarkS and Janina about that
13:32:50 [kaz_]
q?
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ack kaz_
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q?
13:33:12 [kaz_]
zakim, who is here?
13:33:12 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Kazuyuki, Paul_Higgs, Bin_Hu, geguchi, ddavis, yosuke, skim13, Clarke, Glenn_Deen, Jean-Charles, wuwei (muted)
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On IRC I see wwu, kaz_, geguchi, yosuke, Bin_Hu, ddavis, RRSAgent, Zakim, paul_higgs, skim13, jcverdie, MarkS, tobie, sangwhan, timeless__, trackbot
13:33:32 [Zakim]
-Clarke
13:33:33 [jcverdie]
see you all ++
13:33:35 [kaz_]
yosuke: let's continue the concrete discussion on the ML
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-Paul_Higgs
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-geguchi
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-Bin_Hu
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-ddavis
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-yosuke
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-Glenn_Deen
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-Jean-Charles
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-skim13
13:33:50 [kaz_]
... the conf call adjourned :)
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[ adjourned ]
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-wuwei
13:34:00 [kaz_]
rrsagent, draft mintues
13:34:00 [RRSAgent]
I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft mintues', kaz_. Try /msg RRSAgent help
13:34:16 [kaz_]
zakim, who is here?
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On the phone I see Kazuyuki
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On IRC I see wwu, kaz_, geguchi, Bin_Hu, RRSAgent, Zakim, jcverdie, MarkS, tobie, sangwhan, timeless__, trackbot
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-Kazuyuki
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Attendees were Kazuyuki, Paul_Higgs, +1.650.946.aaaa, Bin_Hu, +1.415.832.aabb, ddavis, yosuke, skim13, +1.720.934.aacc, +1.818.370.aadd, Clarke, Glenn_Deen, geguchi, Jean-Charles,
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... wuwei
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