15:17:31 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined #coga
15:17:31 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/07/07-coga-irc
15:17:40 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, this will be  WAI_CogTF
15:17:40 <Zakim> ok, Lisa_Seeman; I see WAI_CogTF()12:00PM scheduled to start in 43 minutes
15:19:12 <Lisa_Seeman> regrets:  Mary Jo Mueller, Steve Lee, Debra Dahl
15:20:36 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda: this
15:20:38 <Lisa_Seeman>   agenda+ set scribe
15:20:39 <Lisa_Seeman>   agenda+ review actions, groups
15:20:41 <Lisa_Seeman>   agenda+ schedules and user group findings
15:20:42 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ adaptability sample page
15:20:44 <Lisa_Seeman>   agenda+ what other technologies and approaches should we be reviewing actions
15:20:45 <Lisa_Seeman> 
15:20:47 <Lisa_Seeman>    agenda+ be done
15:50:42 <JohnRochford> JohnRochford has joined #coga
15:51:23 <Zakim> WAI_CogTF()12:00PM has now started
15:51:30 <Zakim> + +1.508.856.aaaa
15:52:15 <JohnRochford> Zakim, +1.1.508.856.aaaa is JohnRochford
15:52:15 <Zakim> sorry, JohnRochford, I do not recognize a party named '+1.1.508.856.aaaa'
15:52:30 <JohnRochford> Zakim, 1.508.856.aaaa is JohnRochford
15:52:30 <Zakim> sorry, JohnRochford, I do not recognize a party named '1.508.856.aaaa'
15:52:43 <JohnRochford> Zakim, 856.aaaa is JohnRochford
15:52:43 <Zakim> sorry, JohnRochford, I do not recognize a party named '856.aaaa'
15:53:12 <richardschwerdtfeger> richardschwerdtfeger has joined #coga
15:53:14 <JohnRochford> Zakim, help
15:53:14 <Zakim> Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot for more detailed help.
15:53:16 <Zakim> Some of the commands I know are:
15:53:16 <Zakim>  xxx is yyy       - establish yyy as the name of unknown party xxx
15:53:16 <Zakim>                     if yyy is 'me' or 'I', your nick is substituted
15:53:16 <Zakim>  xxx may be yyy   - establish yyy as possibly the name of unknown party xxx
15:53:17 <Zakim>  I am xxx         - establish your nick as the name of unknown party xxx
15:53:17 <Zakim>  xxx holds yyy [, zzz ...] - establish xxx as a group name and yyy, etc. as participants within that group
15:53:17 <Zakim>  xxx also holds yyy - add yyy to the list of participants in group xxx
15:53:17 <Zakim>  who's here?      - lists the participants on the phone
15:53:18 <Zakim>  who's muted?     - lists the participants who are muted
15:53:18 <Zakim>  mute xxx         - mutes party xxx (like pressing 61#)
15:53:18 <Zakim>  unmute xxx       - reverses the effect of "mute" and of 61#
15:53:18 <Zakim>  is xxx here?     - reports whether a party named like xxx is present
15:53:18 <Zakim>  list conferences - reports the active conferences
15:53:19 <Zakim>  this is xxx      - associates this channel with conference xxx
15:53:19 <Zakim>  excuse us        - disconnects from the irc channel
15:53:19 <Zakim> I last learned something new on $Date: 2013-03-03 19:18:47 $
15:53:57 <JohnRochford> Zakim, aaaa is JohnRochford
15:53:57 <Zakim> +JohnRochford; got it
15:54:06 <Zakim> +??P1
15:55:07 <Zakim> +Rich_Schwerdtfeger
15:55:21 <Lisa_Seeman> Zakim, ??P1 is JohnRochford
15:55:21 <Zakim> +JohnRochford; got it
15:58:09 <Zakim> -Rich_Schwerdtfeger
15:58:28 <Lisa_Seeman> Zakim, ??P1 is LisaSeeman
15:58:28 <Zakim> I already had ??P1 as JohnRochford.a, Lisa_Seeman
15:58:41 <Zakim> +Rich_Schwerdtfeger
15:58:42 <Lisa_Seeman> JohnRochford.a is Lisa_Seeman
15:58:56 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, JohnRochford.a is Lisa_Seeman
15:58:56 <Zakim> +Lisa_Seeman; got it
15:59:43 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, who is here
15:59:43 <Zakim> Lisa_Seeman, you need to end that query with '?'
15:59:44 <KateDeibel> KateDeibel has joined #coga
15:59:48 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, who is here?
15:59:48 <Zakim> On the phone I see JohnRochford, Lisa_Seeman, Rich_Schwerdtfeger
15:59:50 <Zakim> On IRC I see KateDeibel, richardschwerdtfeger, JohnRochford, RRSAgent, Zakim, Lisa_Seeman, MichaelC, janina, trackbot
16:00:01 <KateDeibel> I'm about to call in
16:00:31 <Zakim> + +44.203.618.aabb
16:01:10 <neilmilliken> neilmilliken has joined #coga
16:01:11 <Zakim> +??P13
16:01:18 <janina> zakim, ??P13 is me
16:01:18 <Zakim> +janina; got it
16:02:09 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, 44  is neilmilliken
16:02:09 <Zakim> sorry, Lisa_Seeman, I do not recognize a party named '44'
16:02:21 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, +44  is neilmilliken
16:02:21 <Zakim> +neilmilliken; got it
16:04:00 <Lisa_Seeman> scribe: JohnRochford
16:04:02 <Zakim> +??P15
16:04:20 <Lisa_Seeman> chair: Lisa_Seeman
16:04:21 <Zakim> +??P17
16:04:33 <KateDeibel> zakim, ??p17 is me
16:04:33 <Zakim> +KateDeibel; got it
16:04:34 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
16:04:34 <Zakim> agendum 1. "set scribe" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
16:04:48 <Lisa_Seeman> scribe: JohnRochford
16:04:53 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
16:04:53 <Zakim> agendum 1 was just opened, Lisa_Seeman
16:06:00 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Main_Page
16:06:08 <Zakim> +[GVoice]
16:07:13 <Elle_Waters> Elle_Waters has joined #coga
16:08:01 <JohnRochford> Lisa: As soon as gap analysis is ready, post to COGA list.
16:08:56 <JohnRochford> John: This week, John will add content from Neil to Autism gap analysis, then post to COGA list.
16:09:17 <Lisa_Seeman> action: lisa to bug usergroups not ion list for update
16:09:17 <trackbot> Created ACTION-18 - Bug usergroups not ion list for update [on Lisa Seeman - due 2014-07-14].
16:09:29 <JohnRochford> Lisa: I will contact group members about status of each gap analysis.
16:11:29 <JohnRochford> KateDeibel: I am free this week to "do almost anything".
16:13:33 <JohnRochford> Neil: I will be conducting interviews next week with people on the autistic spectrum.
16:14:57 <JohnRochford> Neil: The content JohnRochford will be publishing this week includes info from previous interviews.
16:16:16 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Because peer reviews will start next week, the sooner the better for publication to the list.
16:16:23 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/actions/
16:17:15 <Lisa_Seeman> http://accessibility.athena-ict.com/cognitive/adaptable1.html
16:19:38 <Lisa_Seeman> rich: we need enhacment
16:20:30 <Tim> Tim has joined #coga
16:20:32 <Lisa_Seeman> http://accessibility.athena-ict.com/TechniquesCOGA.html
16:20:37 <JohnRochford> Rich: List of enhancements for each user group are needed.
16:23:17 <Zakim> +Tim_Boland
16:24:35 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
16:25:22 <Elle_Waters> (symptoms = needs, which can be contextual?)
16:26:46 <JohnRochford>  Lisa: We are attempting to attribute techniques, by tag, to each user group.
16:28:50 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
16:28:57 <Elle_Waters> Agree with John
16:29:23 <Lisa_Seeman> http://accessibility.athena-ict.com/cognativefunction.shtml
16:30:12 <JohnRochford> John: I think we should focus on functional limitation rather than on disability.
16:30:23 <Tim> +1
16:31:01 <Lisa_Seeman> Q+
16:31:07 <JohnRochford> Lisa: I am awaiting on agreement for related info in http://accessibility.athena-ict.com/cognativefunction.shtml
16:33:46 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Example - Dyslexia could be broken up into functional limitations, which would enable targeting of subgroups.
16:34:25 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Gap analyses are by disability because it is a starting point.
16:35:05 <neilmilliken> I think that we are taking this approach because we are starting with the familiar as a way to break down tasks by things that are recognisable
16:36:38 <neilmilliken> John the limitations (and conversely strengths) will make one almighty matrix which I think will capture this.
16:37:05 <JohnRochford> Lisa: The next steps for the gap analyses will include a focus on functional limitations, both ones common to all user groups and ones unique to them.
16:37:25 <Elle_Waters> I think that's a good strategy.
16:38:30 <JohnRochford> Kate: Thinking of functional limitation needs to be mapped to particular disabilities.
16:39:08 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
16:41:15 <Lisa_Seeman> ack li
16:42:08 <JohnRochford> Lisa: A more mature draft of the gap analyses will map functional limitation to disability by tags.
16:43:28 <neilmilliken> I agree the tags are the key to connecting common understanding of 'recognised' disabilities to techniques and specific difficulties
16:44:17 <JohnRochford> Janina: Real-time chat has been introduced to the HTML-accessibility task force.
16:45:37 <neilmilliken> Q+
16:46:29 <JohnRochford> Janina: One consideration is evaluating real time chat in terms of whether or not accessibility troubles are caused by the UI or by the real-time chat back end, for example.
16:47:50 <Lisa_Seeman> ack ne
16:48:48 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
16:50:10 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
16:50:35 <Zakim> -Tim_Boland
16:50:40 <JohnRochford> Neil: Should we consider accessibility requirements for scenarios such as juggling more than one real-time chat at the same time.
16:51:51 <JohnRochford> John: Such considerations may add an extra layer of complexity we may not want to add to our task force's efforts at this time.
16:52:23 <JohnRochford> Neil: I agree with John.
16:53:19 <JohnRochford> Janina: There is a working group for real-time chat.
16:53:40 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Main_Page#Gap_Analysis_Issues
16:55:19 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Do we need tags for particular technologies as well as tags for disabilities?
16:56:49 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
16:58:01 <Zakim> -Rich_Schwerdtfeger
16:58:36 <Elle_Waters> Apologies, all, I have to drop for another meeting (action item for Elle: complete usability review - scope and terminology - planned meeting with Neil later this week), cheers!
16:58:46 <JohnRochford> Janina: Maybe the way to capture this is to name a technology as a source for where a concern came from.
16:59:49 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Main_Page#Gap_Analysis_Issues
17:00:22 <Zakim> -janina
17:00:27 <JohnRochford> Lisa: If anyone want to review a technology, review the list at https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Main_Page#Gap_Analysis_Issues
17:00:37 <KateDeibel> Will do... cannot talk... on second phone call
17:01:29 <Zakim> -Lisa_Seeman
17:01:30 <Zakim> -neilmilliken
17:01:30 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
17:01:32 <Zakim> -KateDeibel
17:02:15 <JohnRochford> rrsagent, stop log
17:02:15 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'stop log', JohnRochford.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
17:02:44 <JohnRochford> rrsagent, create minutes
17:02:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/07/07-coga-minutes.html JohnRochford
17:03:05 <JohnRochford> zakim, please part
17:03:05 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were +1.508.856.aaaa, JohnRochford, Rich_Schwerdtfeger, Lisa_Seeman, +44.203.618.aabb, janina, neilmilliken, Michael_Cooper, KateDeibel,
17:03:05 <Zakim> Zakim has left #coga
17:03:09 <Zakim> ... [GVoice], Tim_Boland
17:04:22 <JohnRochford> rrsagent, please part
17:06:47 <JohnRochford> rrsagent, please part
17:24:52 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make log world
17:24:56 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make minutes
17:24:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/07/07-coga-minutes.html MichaelC