IRC log of coga on 2014-06-30

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15:24:04 [Lisa_Seeman]
zakim, this will be WAI_CogTF
15:24:04 [Zakim]
ok, Lisa_Seeman; I see WAI_CogTF()12:00PM scheduled to start in 36 minutes
15:25:11 [Lisa_Seeman]
regrets: Jim Allen, John Rochford, Debra Ruh,Kinshuk,John Foliot
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chair: Lisa_Seeman
15:36:49 [Lisa_Seeman]
regrets: Neil Milliken
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WAI_CogTF()12:00PM has now started
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+??P5
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zakim, ??P5 is Lisa_Seeman
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+Lisa_Seeman; got it
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+??P11
15:59:02 [Lisa_Seeman]
regrets: Kinshuk
15:59:42 [Lisa_Seeman]
zakim, ??P11 is KateDeibel
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+KateDeibel; got it
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zakim, ??P11 is KateDeibel
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I already had ??P11 as KateDeibel, KateDeibel
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+Mary_Jo_Mueller
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+ +1.512.445.aaaa
16:04:02 [Lisa_Seeman]
zakim, +1.512.445.aaaa is SusannKeohane
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+SusannKeohane; got it
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16:05:09 [Lisa_Seeman]
zakim, who's here?
16:05:09 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Lisa_Seeman, KateDeibel, Mary_Jo_Mueller, SusannKeohane
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On IRC I see ddahl, Susann_Keohane, MaryJo, KateDeibel, RRSAgent, Zakim, Lisa_Seeman, MichaelC, Barry, janina, slee, trackbot
16:05:35 [Zakim]
+Katie_Haritos-Shea
16:05:49 [Lisa_Seeman]
I dont think we have enough for quorm
16:06:43 [Lisa_Seeman]
so lets go over the aging subgroup
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q?
16:08:01 [Lisa_Seeman]
scribe: Mary_Jo_Mueller,
16:08:07 [Zakim]
+Debbie_Dahl
16:08:17 [Lisa_Seeman]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/Aging_and_Dementia
16:08:37 [Lisa_Seeman]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/Aging_and_Dementia
16:08:49 [MaryJo]
topic: Review of Aging & Dementia sub-group wiki information
16:09:15 [Zakim]
+Joseph_O´Conno
16:11:11 [MaryJo]
Katie: We want to know if this is the right level of content in the section.
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+??P6
16:12:44 [slee]
sorry I'm late
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16:13:11 [Lisa_Seeman]
zakim, ??P6 is slee
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+slee; got it
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+Rich_Schwerdtfeger
16:14:45 [slee]
Hi richardschwerdtfeger
16:15:25 [Lisa_Seeman]
Cognitive Decline Due to Aging
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Symptoms: Cognitive Decline Due to Aging
16:17:47 [Lisa_Seeman]
q?
16:19:24 [Lisa_Seeman]
Characteristics of Content Optimized for Aging and Dementia
16:19:29 [Lisa_Seeman]
a bit cofucing
16:19:36 [MaryJo]
LS: Give more context on the repeated sub-headings as they get confusing
16:20:00 [Zakim]
+Cooper
16:20:12 [MaryJo]
LS: ICT challenges should be only technology challenges instead of things like losing keys.
16:20:45 [MaryJo]
LS: The more you can put into the ICT challenges and user stories, the better.
16:22:01 [janina]
zakim, call janina
16:22:01 [Zakim]
ok, janina; the call is being made
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+Janina
16:22:14 [MaryJo]
LS: For someone with Alzheimers, larger fonts is an issue, but if it is a setting or a step they have to do to increase the font it can be an issue because it adds another step to remember.
16:22:30 [janina]
zakim, mute me
16:22:30 [Zakim]
Janina should now be muted
16:22:57 [Lisa_Seeman]
q?
16:23:07 [MaryJo]
LS: for how they use the web section. Where do people with alzheimers give up, what are they avoiding because it is too hard to do?
16:23:47 [Lisa_Seeman]
http://www.w3.org/2001/06/manual/#citation
16:24:21 [MaryJo]
LS: Follow W3C guidance on how to cite materials.
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16:25:08 [KateDeibel]
q+
16:25:37 [Lisa_Seeman]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/Dyslexia#Challenges
16:27:06 [MaryJo]
KD: Has references of recent papers of what people with aging and dementia want in technology. Will send these to the list after the call.
16:28:26 [MaryJo]
LS: Could brainstorm what could be done in Web content for people who are aging or have dementia.
16:28:55 [MaryJo]
LS: Reading is one of the last capabilities to go, so having symbols along with text is best.
16:29:40 [MaryJo]
LS: Have less function per screen or page. Essential interface is less confusing
16:30:22 [MaryJo]
LS: Have a very standard interface. Easier to remember.
16:31:43 [MaryJo]
zakim, next item
16:31:43 [Zakim]
I see nothing on the agenda
16:33:41 [Lisa_Seeman]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2014Jun/0043.html
16:34:12 [MaryJo]
topic: Adaptable web content
16:34:56 [MaryJo]
LS: There may be different user needs per disability type. It is important to understand what optimized content is best for each of the groups.
16:35:28 [MaryJo]
LS: Also to know what semantics are needed for each of the groups.
16:37:08 [MaryJo]
LS: If you've got a page and want a way to make a standard menu that is usable by people with dementia, or another cognitive disability. What would that look like?
16:37:14 [richardschwerdtfeger]
Here is the floe project: http://www.floeproject.org/
16:37:30 [richardschwerdtfeger]
click on the show display preferences
16:38:05 [Lisa_Seeman]
http://www.aiu.ac.jp/~naganuma/basicinternetvocab.html
16:38:20 [Zakim]
-slee
16:38:31 [MaryJo]
LS: Standard symbol semantics and vocabulary could be helpful.
16:38:39 [Lisa_Seeman]
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-rdfa-primer/
16:40:14 [Lisa_Seeman]
q?
16:40:24 [Lisa_Seeman]
ack kate
16:42:27 [MaryJo]
KD: We could categories for available technologies - like which make content adaptable, etc.
16:44:22 [MaryJo]
KD: Standard readability metrics focus on the text not the reader.
16:45:34 [MaryJo]
KD: Sentence length would likely have an effect on readability and understandability.
16:46:57 [MaryJo]
LS: We could put together a page of what's useful to make content adaptable.
16:47:47 [MaryJo]
LS: Will make a first pass on creating the adaptable page.
16:49:18 [MaryJo]
SK: Once the page is started it's easier to contribute. We can collect technologies on the page and everyone can look to see if they have anything to contribute.
16:50:00 [MaryJo]
topic: HTML 5 wishlist
16:50:20 [MaryJo]
LS: The current list is what PF wants
16:50:20 [Lisa_Seeman]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/51wishlist
16:50:53 [MaryJo]
LS: Please take a look from our task force's perspective
16:53:51 [Zakim]
-Debbie_Dahl
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-KateDeibel
16:53:53 [MaryJo]
zakim, bye
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leaving. As of this point the attendees were Lisa_Seeman, KateDeibel, Mary_Jo_Mueller, SusannKeohane, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Debbie_Dahl, Joseph_O´Conno, slee, Rich_Schwerdtfeger,
16:53:54 [Zakim]
... Cooper, Janina
16:53:58 [MaryJo]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/06/30-coga-minutes.html MaryJo
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17:03:06 [Lisa_Seeman]
https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/Introduction#B._Addressing_specific_topics
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q?
17:14:13 [MichaelC]
rrsagent, make log world
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