IRC log of coga on 2014-06-30
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/06/30-coga-irc
- 15:24:04 [Lisa_Seeman]
- zakim, this will be WAI_CogTF
- 15:24:04 [Zakim]
- ok, Lisa_Seeman; I see WAI_CogTF()12:00PM scheduled to start in 36 minutes
- 15:25:11 [Lisa_Seeman]
- regrets: Jim Allen, John Rochford, Debra Ruh,Kinshuk,John Foliot
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- chair: Lisa_Seeman
- 15:36:49 [Lisa_Seeman]
- regrets: Neil Milliken
- 15:52:10 [Zakim]
- WAI_CogTF()12:00PM has now started
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- +??P5
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- zakim, ??P5 is Lisa_Seeman
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- +Lisa_Seeman; got it
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- +??P11
- 15:59:02 [Lisa_Seeman]
- regrets: Kinshuk
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- zakim, ??P11 is KateDeibel
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- +KateDeibel; got it
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- zakim, ??P11 is KateDeibel
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- I already had ??P11 as KateDeibel, KateDeibel
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- +Mary_Jo_Mueller
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- + +1.512.445.aaaa
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- zakim, +1.512.445.aaaa is SusannKeohane
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- +SusannKeohane; got it
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- 16:05:09 [Lisa_Seeman]
- zakim, who's here?
- 16:05:09 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Lisa_Seeman, KateDeibel, Mary_Jo_Mueller, SusannKeohane
- 16:05:12 [Zakim]
- On IRC I see ddahl, Susann_Keohane, MaryJo, KateDeibel, RRSAgent, Zakim, Lisa_Seeman, MichaelC, Barry, janina, slee, trackbot
- 16:05:35 [Zakim]
- +Katie_Haritos-Shea
- 16:05:49 [Lisa_Seeman]
- I dont think we have enough for quorm
- 16:06:43 [Lisa_Seeman]
- so lets go over the aging subgroup
- 16:06:51 [Lisa_Seeman]
- q?
- 16:08:01 [Lisa_Seeman]
- scribe: Mary_Jo_Mueller,
- 16:08:07 [Zakim]
- +Debbie_Dahl
- 16:08:17 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/Aging_and_Dementia
- 16:08:37 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/Aging_and_Dementia
- 16:08:49 [MaryJo]
- topic: Review of Aging & Dementia sub-group wiki information
- 16:09:15 [Zakim]
- +Joseph_O´Conno
- 16:11:11 [MaryJo]
- Katie: We want to know if this is the right level of content in the section.
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- +??P6
- 16:12:44 [slee]
- sorry I'm late
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- zakim, ??P6 is slee
- 16:13:11 [Zakim]
- +slee; got it
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- +Rich_Schwerdtfeger
- 16:14:45 [slee]
- Hi richardschwerdtfeger
- 16:15:25 [Lisa_Seeman]
- Cognitive Decline Due to Aging
- 16:15:41 [Lisa_Seeman]
- Symptoms: Cognitive Decline Due to Aging
- 16:17:47 [Lisa_Seeman]
- q?
- 16:19:24 [Lisa_Seeman]
- Characteristics of Content Optimized for Aging and Dementia
- 16:19:29 [Lisa_Seeman]
- a bit cofucing
- 16:19:36 [MaryJo]
- LS: Give more context on the repeated sub-headings as they get confusing
- 16:20:00 [Zakim]
- +Cooper
- 16:20:12 [MaryJo]
- LS: ICT challenges should be only technology challenges instead of things like losing keys.
- 16:20:45 [MaryJo]
- LS: The more you can put into the ICT challenges and user stories, the better.
- 16:22:01 [janina]
- zakim, call janina
- 16:22:01 [Zakim]
- ok, janina; the call is being made
- 16:22:02 [Zakim]
- +Janina
- 16:22:14 [MaryJo]
- LS: For someone with Alzheimers, larger fonts is an issue, but if it is a setting or a step they have to do to increase the font it can be an issue because it adds another step to remember.
- 16:22:30 [janina]
- zakim, mute me
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- Janina should now be muted
- 16:22:57 [Lisa_Seeman]
- q?
- 16:23:07 [MaryJo]
- LS: for how they use the web section. Where do people with alzheimers give up, what are they avoiding because it is too hard to do?
- 16:23:47 [Lisa_Seeman]
- http://www.w3.org/2001/06/manual/#citation
- 16:24:21 [MaryJo]
- LS: Follow W3C guidance on how to cite materials.
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- 16:25:08 [KateDeibel]
- q+
- 16:25:37 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/Dyslexia#Challenges
- 16:27:06 [MaryJo]
- KD: Has references of recent papers of what people with aging and dementia want in technology. Will send these to the list after the call.
- 16:28:26 [MaryJo]
- LS: Could brainstorm what could be done in Web content for people who are aging or have dementia.
- 16:28:55 [MaryJo]
- LS: Reading is one of the last capabilities to go, so having symbols along with text is best.
- 16:29:40 [MaryJo]
- LS: Have less function per screen or page. Essential interface is less confusing
- 16:30:22 [MaryJo]
- LS: Have a very standard interface. Easier to remember.
- 16:31:43 [MaryJo]
- zakim, next item
- 16:31:43 [Zakim]
- I see nothing on the agenda
- 16:33:41 [Lisa_Seeman]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2014Jun/0043.html
- 16:34:12 [MaryJo]
- topic: Adaptable web content
- 16:34:56 [MaryJo]
- LS: There may be different user needs per disability type. It is important to understand what optimized content is best for each of the groups.
- 16:35:28 [MaryJo]
- LS: Also to know what semantics are needed for each of the groups.
- 16:37:08 [MaryJo]
- LS: If you've got a page and want a way to make a standard menu that is usable by people with dementia, or another cognitive disability. What would that look like?
- 16:37:14 [richardschwerdtfeger]
- Here is the floe project: http://www.floeproject.org/
- 16:37:30 [richardschwerdtfeger]
- click on the show display preferences
- 16:38:05 [Lisa_Seeman]
- http://www.aiu.ac.jp/~naganuma/basicinternetvocab.html
- 16:38:20 [Zakim]
- -slee
- 16:38:31 [MaryJo]
- LS: Standard symbol semantics and vocabulary could be helpful.
- 16:38:39 [Lisa_Seeman]
- http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-rdfa-primer/
- 16:40:14 [Lisa_Seeman]
- q?
- 16:40:24 [Lisa_Seeman]
- ack kate
- 16:42:27 [MaryJo]
- KD: We could categories for available technologies - like which make content adaptable, etc.
- 16:44:22 [MaryJo]
- KD: Standard readability metrics focus on the text not the reader.
- 16:45:34 [MaryJo]
- KD: Sentence length would likely have an effect on readability and understandability.
- 16:46:57 [MaryJo]
- LS: We could put together a page of what's useful to make content adaptable.
- 16:47:47 [MaryJo]
- LS: Will make a first pass on creating the adaptable page.
- 16:49:18 [MaryJo]
- SK: Once the page is started it's easier to contribute. We can collect technologies on the page and everyone can look to see if they have anything to contribute.
- 16:50:00 [MaryJo]
- topic: HTML 5 wishlist
- 16:50:20 [MaryJo]
- LS: The current list is what PF wants
- 16:50:20 [Lisa_Seeman]
- http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/51wishlist
- 16:50:53 [MaryJo]
- LS: Please take a look from our task force's perspective
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- -Debbie_Dahl
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- -KateDeibel
- 16:53:53 [MaryJo]
- zakim, bye
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- leaving. As of this point the attendees were Lisa_Seeman, KateDeibel, Mary_Jo_Mueller, SusannKeohane, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Debbie_Dahl, Joseph_O´Conno, slee, Rich_Schwerdtfeger,
- 16:53:54 [Zakim]
- ... Cooper, Janina
- 16:53:58 [MaryJo]
- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/06/30-coga-minutes.html MaryJo
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- 17:03:06 [Lisa_Seeman]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/Introduction#B._Addressing_specific_topics
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- q?
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- rrsagent, make log world
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