13:46:26 RRSAgent has joined #eval 13:46:26 logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/06/05-eval-irc 13:46:28 RRSAgent, make logs world 13:46:28 Zakim has joined #eval 13:46:30 Zakim, this will be 3825 13:46:30 ok, trackbot; I see WAI_ERTWG(Eval TF)10:00AM scheduled to start in 14 minutes 13:46:31 Meeting: WCAG 2.0 Evaluation Methodology Task Force Teleconference 13:46:31 Date: 05 June 2014 13:57:09 Zakim, what´s on the agenda 13:57:09 I don't understand 'what´s on the agenda', martijnhoutepen 13:57:16 Zakim, what is on the agenda 13:57:16 I don't understand 'what is on the agenda', martijnhoutepen 13:57:24 Zakim, agenda? 13:57:24 I see nothing on the agenda 13:57:53 agenda+ Critical walkthrough of the 14 May Editor Draft and DoC 13:58:06 agenda+ Next steps 13:58:14 EricVelleman has joined #eval 13:58:21 agenda+ Other issues 13:58:24 Zakim, agenda? 13:58:24 I see 3 items remaining on the agenda: 13:58:25 1. Critical walkthrough of the 14 May Editor Draft and DoC [from martijnhoutepen] 13:58:25 2. Next steps [from martijnhoutepen] 13:58:25 3. Other issues [from martijnhoutepen] 14:00:16 regrets: Kathy, Gavin, Detlev 14:00:36 chair: EricVelleman 14:01:05 Sarah_Swierenga has joined #eval 14:01:29 WAI_ERTWG(Eval TF)10:00AM has now started 14:01:37 +Mary_Jo_Mueller 14:01:43 MaryJo has joined #eval 14:02:00 +MartijnHoutepen 14:02:00 +Sarah_Swierenga 14:02:19 +EricVelleman 14:04:49 Zakim, mute me 14:04:49 MartijnHoutepen should now be muted 14:05:14 Zakim, agenda? 14:05:14 I see 3 items remaining on the agenda: 14:05:15 1. Critical walkthrough of the 14 May Editor Draft and DoC [from martijnhoutepen] 14:05:15 2. Next steps [from martijnhoutepen] 14:05:15 3. Other issues [from martijnhoutepen] 14:05:23 ack me 14:05:38 Zakim, mute me 14:05:38 MartijnHoutepen should now be muted 14:05:44 scribe: MartijnHoutepen 14:05:55 Zakim, take up next 14:05:55 agendum 1. "Critical walkthrough of the 14 May Editor Draft and DoC" taken up [from martijnhoutepen] 14:06:21 EV: 2 docs, ED 14th of May and DoC 14th of May 14:06:34 http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/conformance/ED-methodology-20140514 14:06:46 http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/conformance/comments-20140130 14:07:26 EV: Walkthrough through ED 14:08:04 added ARIA to examples in intro 14:09:03 MJM: WAI-ARIA or ARIA 14:09:05 ? 14:09:15 MoeKraft has joined #eval 14:09:27 EV: i´ll ask shadi 14:09:45 +MoeKraft 14:11:34 EV: (quick step to next agenda item) We´ll do a new ED on the basis of feedback, we´ll review this next week 14:12:20 MK: several items in DoC are still open, do we discuss these items now? 14:12:37 EV: we closed them all in the last few calls 14:13:20 q? 14:13:28 +1 to the changes 14:13:42 EV: Purposes of methodology changed 14:14:33 +1 for expanded website developers definition 14:14:57 next change in defenition Website developers: programmers to front-end dev back-end programmer 14:17:06 +1 to Web Applications text update 14:17:17 Change in Particular Types of Websites, wording change in Web applications 14:18:44 Defn Website Using Responsive Design is open, will be adressed in next ED 14:19:30 New text for Third-Party Assessment of Conformance 14:20:47 more positive phrasing 14:21:06 +1 on Third Party Assessment of Conformance rewording 14:22:03 EV: Re-running Website Evaluation changed as in comment 18 14:22:16 +1 on Re-Reunning Website Evaluation clarification 14:23:16 EV: next change: Step 1.c: Define an Accessibility Support Baseline changed as in telco 8th of May 14:24:51 SS: change OS, browser, at, UA to OSs, browsers, ATs, UAs 14:25:27 +1 to adding 'users' 14:25:48 EV: added ´users´ to last paragraph 14:26:16 .. step 1.d as agreed in 8th of May telco 14:26:43 step 1.e added ´users with different disabilities¨ 14:27:06 step 2c. editorial changes 14:28:16 step 3. Added "(highly recommended)" 14:28:50 +1 14:29:33 EV: step 3a changed order of 3b and 3c 14:31:06 EV: We talked about merging step 2 and 3 but decided against it. reordering makes it more clear 14:32:19 EV: made note in last paragraph stand out more 14:32:55 EV: small change in 3d 14:34:03 EV: step 3e: new text in new ED next week 14:34:38 EV: Step 4a: changed last list item for clarification 14:35:26 ack me 14:36:10 http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#accessibility-supporteddef 14:36:33 Zakim, mute me 14:36:33 MartijnHoutepen should now be muted 14:39:01 EV: 4d, check for non interferance, added quote from Understanding docs 14:39:20 EV: Step 5 changed reliable to verifiable 14:40:31 EV: Step 5a added text to note about good practice 14:42:07 EV: last change: step 5d: rewrite 14:44:56 EV: Shadi and me will make a new ED 14:46:22 EV: please look at the DoC 14:46:40 EV: Did we miss anything? 14:47:05 MK: There´s a proposed wording an responsive design in the survey 14:47:16 s/an/to 14:49:00 MJM: don´t hyphenate my first name please 14:49:36 take up next 14:49:43 Zakim, take up next 14:49:43 agendum 2. "Next steps" taken up [from martijnhoutepen] 14:50:00 I need to drive to a meeting off-campus now. Have a good week! 14:50:16 EV: if you find anything please let us know 14:50:43 EV: try to get closer to final draft / note 14:50:59 Zakim, take up next 14:50:59 agendum 3. "Other issues" taken up [from martijnhoutepen] 14:51:10 ack me 14:51:12 -Sarah_Swierenga 14:51:13 -MoeKraft 14:51:27 -Mary_Jo_Mueller 14:51:29 -EricVelleman 14:51:33 trackbot, end meeting 14:51:33 Zakim, list attendees 14:51:33 As of this point the attendees have been Mary_Jo_Mueller, MartijnHoutepen, Sarah_Swierenga, EricVelleman, MoeKraft 14:51:41 RRSAgent, please draft minutes 14:51:41 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/06/05-eval-minutes.html trackbot 14:51:42 RRSAgent, bye 14:51:42 I see no action items