IRC log of html-a11y on 2014-05-19
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- RRSAgent, make logs world
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- Zakim, this will be 2119
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- ok, trackbot; I see WAI_HTML AT()6:00PM scheduled to start in 8 minutes
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- Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
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- Date: 19 May 2014
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- Meeting: Canvas Accessibility Sub-Group Sub-Group
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- Chair: Mark Sadecki
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- agenda+ Implementations
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- agenda+ Testing
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- agenda+ Canvas 2D Level 2 Heartbeat
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- agenda+ Next Meeting
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- WAI_HTML AT()6:00PM has now started
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- +MarkS
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- scribe: MarkS
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- +[Microsoft]
- 22:02:06 [jaymunro]
- zakim, microsoft has me
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- +jaymunro; got it
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- +cabanier
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- zakim, take up next item
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- agendum 1. "Implementations" taken up [from MarkS]
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- RC: Submitted Pasches, there were memory leaks, I got feedback and resubmitted for feedback. Either tomorrow or wednesday it should be in FF.
- 22:04:29 [MarkS]
- ...if its in Nightly, it should be in release around september.
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- MS: any progress getting drawFocus into release?
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- RC: Approved by Safari and FF. FF will have it coming in September.
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- ...not enough support in blink just yet.
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- ...dominic was going to try to give them more info on it.
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- ...samsung and dominic are going to start working on hit regions in chrome.
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- MS: would it help if we filed a bug for Safari?
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- RC: I don't think that would help. someone just needs to decide to do it.
- 22:06:42 [MarkS]
- ..it would have to be in the next month or so to make it in this year.
- 22:07:15 [MarkS]
- ...drawFocus should be in the next safari (8), but Hit Region will probably not make it.
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- JM: Microsoft is looking into it, so that is as far as I know.
- 22:08:17 [MarkS]
- ...confirmed from JMann that there is still no definitive news
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- zakim, take up next item
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- agendum 2. "Testing" taken up [from MarkS]
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- http://www.w3.org/Talks/2014/0510-canvas-a11y/index.html#1
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- http://www.w3.org/Talks/2014/0510-canvas-a11y/index.html#34
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- MS: @@
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- RC: I can send you a link to the discussion RE Blink
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- zakim, take up next item
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- agendum 3. "Canvas 2D Level 2 Heartbeat" taken up [from MarkS]
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- MS: When is the heartbeat scheduled for L2?
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- JM: Paul has been talking about doing it at the same time we take L1 to CR
- 22:14:11 [MarkS]
- ...there are a couple of things that I think need to be updated.
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- ... drawSystemFocusRing needs to get removed again (reappeared) and then remove the sprite animation example
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- ...its currently broken, so should probably pull out.
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- RC: I think we will have to branch again, remove stuff etc.
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- ...Level 2 would become Level 3
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- JM: Level 2 will have a lot of updates that Level 3 won't
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- RC: winding rules were implemented, path was implemented.
- 22:19:21 [MarkS]
- ...Ian has added a bunch of new stuff for adding texts that is not clear right now, so it should be a level 3 thing
- 22:19:36 [MarkS]
- ...not sure we need anything new for a11y right now
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- ACTION: MarkS to log bug on focus ring in FF
- 22:21:11 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-252 - Log bug on focus ring in ff [on Mark Sadecki - due 2014-05-26].
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- zakim, take up next item
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- agendum 4. "Next Meeting" taken up [from MarkS]
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- JM: Rik, it would be helpful if we started a list of what should stay in Level 2 and what should move to Level 3
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- MS: Sounds like a bigger problem since canvas is an extension spec here and part of html5 at what wg
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- JM: there are technical problems with cherry picking (overwriting our changes) but also no discussion on the changes.
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- ...I like the idea of branching and then pick and choose what gets brought in.
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- RC: take whats there now, branch it and clean it up.
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- MS: is this something we want to do by the Heartbeat?
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- JM: might be a good idea
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- MS: OK, I can start a wiki then and we can work on what stays and goes there
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- -cabanier
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- -[Microsoft]
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- ACTION: MarkS to talk to HTML about the branching L2, creating L3 and starting new canvas telecon
- 22:33:23 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-253 - Talk to html about the branching l2, creating l3 and starting new canvas telecon [on Mark Sadecki - due 2014-05-26].
- 22:34:11 [MarkS]
- s/@@/learned a lot about canvas recently preparing slides for talk and should be able to start writing tests.
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- -MarkS
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- WAI_HTML AT()6:00PM has ended
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- Attendees were MarkS, jaymunro, cabanier
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/05/19-html-a11y-minutes.html MarkS
- 22:36:07 [cabanier]
- MarkS: Blink patch for hit regions: https://codereview.chromium.org/287163007/
- 22:37:59 [cabanier]
- MarkS: you might be able to subscribe to that patch
- 22:38:15 [cabanier]
- MarkS: chrome bug is here: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=328961 (with the comments from Dominic)
- 22:38:38 [MarkS]
- awesome, thanks Rik