IRC log of tt on 2014-05-08
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- Zakim, this will be TTML
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- ok, trackbot; I see SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
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- Meeting: Timed Text Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 08 May 2014
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- SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM has now started
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- +nigel
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- chair: nigel
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- Present: nigel
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- Regrets: mdolan
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- Present+ pal
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- +[Microsoft]
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- Present+ jdsmith
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- Regrets+ tmichel
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- scribeNick: nigel
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- topic: MPEG liaison re MIME Codecs parameter
- 14:07:33 [nigel]
- nigel: We'll discuss this next week. There's been a lot of email discussion on this.
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- action-288?
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- action-288 -- Nigel Megitt to Create issue for codecs parameter -- due 2014-05-08 -- PENDINGREVIEW
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/288
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- close action-288
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- Closed action-288.
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- topic: Action items pending review
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- action-246?
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- action-246 -- Nigel Megitt to Take deliverables of draft charter to TAG for scrutiny -- due 2014-04-17 -- PENDINGREVIEW
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/246
- 14:09:41 [nigel]
- nigel: This is a placeholder action I gave myself when we were reviewing the draft charter. I've reviewed TAG's remit and compared with our deliverables and concluded there's no action.
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- +Plh
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- close action-246
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- Closed action-246.
- 14:13:20 [plh]
- rrsagent, where am I?
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- See http://www.w3.org/2014/05/08-tt-irc#T14-13-20
- 14:13:49 [nigel]
- action-274?
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- action-274 -- Nigel Megitt to Discuss with david singer possibilities for f2f before going ahead and adding ttwg to tpac agenda. -- due 2014-03-27 -- PENDINGREVIEW
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/274
- 14:14:24 [nigel]
- nigel: I have requested TTWG meetings at TPAC. I have not had a response yet.
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- plh: We need to confirm the F2F in September by July at the latest.
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- close action-274
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- Closed action-274.
- 14:17:19 [nigel]
- topic: Issues discussed and raised over the past week
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- issue-307?
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- issue-307 -- Conformance language and processor profile rather than content profile. -- raised
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/307
- 14:20:06 [nigel]
- pal: I've added a note to the issue. I agree re language use and consistency.
- 14:21:18 [nigel]
- ... IMSC is primarily a content profile.
- 14:22:08 [nigel]
- nigel: I'm concerned with using the term profile for content profile when it's defined as 'processor profile' in TTML1. We know what 'content profile' means informally but it's defined in TTML1 as a processor profile.
- 14:22:27 [nigel]
- pal: I can amend to be explicit about content profiles too.
- 14:23:19 [nigel]
- nigel: We should also make sure that content profile language is aligned in TTML2 with what we want to use in IMSC
- 14:24:37 [nigel]
- pal: One proposal is to use 'content profile'. In practice everybody will use 'profile' so that will make the wording more verbose.
- 14:24:54 [nigel]
- pal: Can we wait for Glenn's advice before making edits?
- 14:25:05 [nigel]
- nigel: yes, happy with that.
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- OPEN issue-307
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- s/OPEN issue-307
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- pal: another term that is used in SDP-US is "document profile", which is fairly close to what IMSC uses today.
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- nigel: that makes sense too.
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- s/OPEN issue-307/
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- nigel: have opened the issue.
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- issue-308?
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- issue-308 -- It is unclear how a document is associated with a related video object -- raised
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- http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/308
- 14:27:41 [nigel]
- pal: Related video object should be replaced with Related Media Object everywhere.
- 14:29:38 [nigel]
- pal: There's no constraint on related objects unless ttp:frameRate is specified
- 14:31:10 [nigel]
- ... If you want the document to be independent of video frame rate don't use times with frames.
- 14:33:54 [nigel]
- nigel: This is an editorial issue on ยง4.4 3rd paragraph: I think what is meant is that if time expressions with frames are used then the frame rate in the related video object must be the same as that set.
- 14:34:15 [nigel]
- pal: In fact if frames are to be used then ttp:frameRate must be set in IMSC so they are equivalent, but I can add a note to make this clearer.
- 14:36:23 [nigel]
- pal: I've added a note to the issue.
- 14:36:47 [nigel]
- pal: I plan to wait for more comments, e.g. until the 3rd week of May, and look at the comments received then before updating the document.
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- topic: Change Proposals
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- https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal002
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- jdsmith: We need Glenn before closing this.
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- nigel: It would be helpful to have advance notice of any CPs that we plan to work on.
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- jdsmith: I've reviewed internally and can discuss these on the agenda next week - the CPs I own.
- 14:40:57 [nigel]
- nigel: Thank you, I'll add them to the agenda.
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- topic: AOB
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- -pal
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- -Plh
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- -nigel
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- -[Microsoft]
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- SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were nigel, pal, [Microsoft], Plh
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/05/08-tt-minutes.html nigel
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- Present+ plh
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