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13:58:22 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
13:58:23 <trackbot> Meeting: Timed Text Working Group Teleconference
13:58:23 <trackbot> Date: 08 May 2014
13:58:48 <Zakim> SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM has now started
13:58:55 <Zakim> +nigel
13:59:36 <nigel> chair: nigel
13:59:41 <nigel> Present: nigel
14:00:07 <nigel> Regrets: mdolan
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14:03:48 <nigel> Present+ jdsmith
14:04:26 <nigel> Regrets+ tmichel
14:07:02 <nigel> scribeNick: nigel
14:07:13 <nigel> topic: MPEG liaison re MIME Codecs parameter
14:07:33 <nigel> nigel: We'll discuss this next week. There's been a lot of email discussion on this.
14:07:41 <nigel> action-288?
14:07:41 <trackbot> action-288 -- Nigel Megitt to Create issue for codecs parameter -- due 2014-05-08 -- PENDINGREVIEW
14:07:41 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/288
14:07:58 <nigel> close action-288
14:07:58 <trackbot> Closed action-288.
14:08:47 <nigel> topic: Action items pending review
14:08:52 <nigel> action-246?
14:08:52 <trackbot> action-246 -- Nigel Megitt to Take deliverables of draft charter to TAG for scrutiny -- due 2014-04-17 -- PENDINGREVIEW
14:08:52 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/246
14:09:41 <nigel> nigel: This is a placeholder action I gave myself when we were reviewing the draft charter. I've reviewed TAG's remit and compared with our deliverables and concluded there's no action.
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14:12:05 <nigel> close action-246
14:12:06 <trackbot> Closed action-246.
14:13:20 <plh> rrsagent, where am I?
14:13:20 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2014/05/08-tt-irc#T14-13-20
14:13:49 <nigel> action-274?
14:13:49 <trackbot> action-274 -- Nigel Megitt to Discuss with david singer possibilities for f2f before going ahead and adding ttwg to tpac agenda. -- due 2014-03-27 -- PENDINGREVIEW
14:13:49 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/274
14:14:24 <nigel> nigel: I have requested TTWG meetings at TPAC. I have not had a response yet.
14:15:42 <nigel> plh: We need to confirm the F2F in September by July at the latest.
14:16:43 <nigel> close action-274
14:16:43 <trackbot> Closed action-274.
14:17:19 <nigel> topic: Issues discussed and raised over the past week
14:18:09 <nigel> issue-307?
14:18:09 <trackbot> issue-307 -- Conformance language and processor profile rather than content profile. -- raised
14:18:09 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/307
14:20:06 <nigel> pal: I've added a note to the issue. I agree re language use and consistency.
14:21:18 <nigel> ... IMSC is primarily a content profile.
14:22:08 <nigel> nigel: I'm concerned with using the term profile for content profile when it's defined as 'processor profile' in TTML1. We know what 'content profile' means informally but it's defined in TTML1 as a processor profile.
14:22:27 <nigel> pal: I can amend to be explicit about content profiles too.
14:23:19 <nigel> nigel: We should also make sure that content profile language is aligned in TTML2 with what we want to use in IMSC
14:24:37 <nigel> pal: One proposal is to use 'content profile'. In practice everybody will use 'profile' so that will make the wording more verbose.
14:24:54 <nigel> pal: Can we wait for Glenn's advice before making edits?
14:25:05 <nigel> nigel: yes, happy with that.
14:25:26 <nigel> OPEN issue-307
14:25:34 <nigel> s/OPEN issue-307
14:26:05 <nigel> pal: another term that is used in SDP-US is "document profile", which is fairly close to what IMSC uses today.
14:26:11 <nigel> nigel: that makes sense too.
14:26:15 <nigel> s/OPEN issue-307/
14:26:42 <nigel> nigel: have opened the issue.
14:26:54 <nigel> issue-308?
14:26:54 <trackbot> issue-308 -- It is unclear how a document is associated with a related video object -- raised
14:26:54 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/308
14:27:41 <nigel> pal: Related video object should be replaced with Related Media Object everywhere.
14:29:38 <nigel> pal: There's no constraint on related objects unless ttp:frameRate is specified
14:31:10 <nigel> ... If you want the document to be independent of video frame rate don't use times with frames.
14:33:54 <nigel> nigel: This is an editorial issue on §4.4 3rd paragraph: I think what is meant is that if time expressions with frames are used then the frame rate in the related video object must be the same as that set.
14:34:15 <nigel> pal: In fact if frames are to be used then ttp:frameRate must be set in IMSC so they are equivalent, but I can add a note to make this clearer.
14:36:23 <nigel> pal: I've added a note to the issue.
14:36:47 <nigel> pal: I plan to wait for more comments, e.g. until the 3rd week of May, and look at the comments received then before updating the document.
14:38:10 <nigel> topic: Change Proposals
14:38:18 <nigel> https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal002
14:38:28 <nigel> jdsmith: We need Glenn before closing this.
14:39:48 <nigel> nigel: It would be helpful to have advance notice of any CPs that we plan to work on.
14:40:12 <nigel> jdsmith: I've reviewed internally and can discuss these on the agenda next week - the CPs I own.
14:40:57 <nigel> nigel: Thank you, I'll add them to the agenda.
14:41:11 <nigel> topic: AOB
14:41:33 <Zakim> -pal
14:41:34 <Zakim> -Plh
14:41:36 <Zakim> -nigel
14:41:38 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
14:41:38 <Zakim> SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM has ended
14:41:38 <Zakim> Attendees were nigel, pal, [Microsoft], Plh
14:41:44 <nigel> rrsagent, make logs punli
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14:41:59 <nigel> rrsagent, generate minutes
14:41:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/05/08-tt-minutes.html nigel
14:43:58 <nigel> Present+ plh
14:44:02 <nigel> rrsagent, generate minutes
14:44:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/05/08-tt-minutes.html nigel
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