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15:00:39 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 2119
15:00:39 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM scheduled to start 60 minutes ago
15:00:40 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
15:00:40 <trackbot> Date: 01 May 2014
15:00:42 <chaals> zakim, agenda?
15:00:42 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
15:00:43 <Zakim> 4. Next Meeting [from MarkS]
15:00:50 <chaals> zakim, clear item 4
15:00:50 <Zakim> I don't understand 'clear item 4', chaals
15:00:58 <chaals> zakim, close item 4
15:00:58 <Zakim> agendum 4, Next Meeting, closed
15:01:00 <Zakim> I see nothing remaining on the agenda
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15:01:44 <janina> zakim, who's on the phone?
15:01:44 <Zakim> apparently WAI_HTML AT()6:00PM has ended, janina
15:01:46 <Zakim> On IRC I see Judy, RRSAgent, David, chaals, janina, Zakim, MarkS, trackbot, sivoais, hober, cabanier
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15:02:10 <chaals> Chair: Chaals
15:02:10 <chaals> agenda+ Longdesc status
15:02:10 <chaals> agenda+ Canvas Level 1
15:02:10 <chaals> agenda+ Alt guidance in HTML (and beyond)
15:02:10 <chaals> close ACTION-239
15:02:10 <chaals> agenda+ Table Summaries
15:02:10 <chaals> agenda+ Bugs and bug triage
15:02:10 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-239.
15:02:11 <chaals> agenda+ Other subteams
15:02:11 <chaals> agenda+ Action item review
15:02:13 <janina> zakim, this will be 2119
15:02:14 <Zakim> ok, janina; I see WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM scheduled to start 62 minutes ago
15:02:29 <chaals> zakim, this is 2119
15:02:29 <Zakim> ok, chaals; that matches WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)10:00AM
15:02:37 <chaals> zakim, who is here?
15:02:37 <Zakim> On the phone I see David_MacDonald, Mark_Sadecki, ??P9, [IPcaller]
15:02:39 <Zakim> On IRC I see richardschwerdtfeger, Judy, RRSAgent, David, chaals, janina, Zakim, MarkS, trackbot, sivoais, hober, cabanier
15:02:43 <chaals> zakim, [ip is me
15:02:43 <Zakim> +chaals; got it
15:02:51 <chaals> zakim, ??p9 is janina
15:02:51 <Zakim> +janina; got it
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15:03:31 <chaals> scribe: David
15:03:32 <Zakim> +Plh
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15:04:34 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:04:43 <chaals> zakim, [ip is leonie
15:04:43 <Zakim> +leonie; got it
15:04:51 <chaals> zakim, take up item 5
15:04:51 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Longdesc status" taken up [from chaals]
15:05:12 <LJWatson> zakim, who is on the phone?
15:05:12 <Zakim> On the phone I see David_MacDonald, Mark_Sadecki, janina, chaals, Plh, leonie
15:05:44 <David> Lomgdesc chaals sent proposal to coordingators and will send to us
15:06:17 <David> it covers things that must be done... we have UA that have met all the requirements except exposing data to apis
15:06:39 <David> only IE will do that ok... we have no results for lenox
15:06:41 <Zakim> +Rich_Schwerdtfeger
15:07:04 <plh> q+
15:07:14 <chaals> ack plh
15:07:17 <David> there are nine test... getting those done will be usefilul... waiting for PF and HTML for exot criteeia... can'ti imaging trouble
15:07:31 <David> PHIPI were are tests
15:07:47 <David> Philipe: where are tests
15:07:48 <janina> q+
15:08:00 <plh> https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/tree/master/html-longdesc
15:08:16 <chaals> ack ja
15:08:26 <David> need to find one more browser that talks to the api
15:08:32 <MarkS> regrets+ Billy Gregory
15:08:35 <David> janina... what will it say
15:08:40 <MarkS> regrets+ Adrian Roselli
15:08:59 <David> Chaals: needs to say its state etc
15:09:25 <David> Philipe... doesn't api access the DOM
15:09:27 <richardschwerdtfeger> q+
15:09:37 <chaals> ack rsch
15:09:51 <David> Rich: Acces api tgets information from the dom
15:10:48 <David> Janina: I don't know how that work if a new page is loaded as in LD
15:11:02 <David> Chaals; similar to describedby
15:11:19 <David> instead of loading a string it loads a url
15:11:36 <David> Rich: In an api youwpuld need to put that into a list of actions
15:11:48 <David> Janina: I can check lenox
15:12:19 <chaals> ACTION: Janina to test for linux accessibility APIs showing longdesc.
15:12:19 <trackbot> Created ACTION-243 - Test for linux accessibility apis showing longdesc. [on Janina Sajka - due 2014-05-08].
15:12:25 <David> Rich: look at accessible actions,
15:12:35 <chaals> zakim, next item
15:12:35 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, chaals
15:12:38 <chaals> q?
15:12:41 <chaals> ack rsc
15:12:43 <chaals> ack ri
15:12:48 <chaals> zakim, take up next item
15:12:48 <Zakim> agendum 6. "Canvas Level 1" taken up [from chaals]
15:13:44 <David> Mark: Waiting on editors to send ... editors have local build ready to go, I followed up this morning... other than that ready to go
15:13:46 <chaals> zakim, take up next item
15:13:46 <Zakim> agendum 6 was just opened, chaals
15:13:52 <chaals> zakim, take up next item
15:13:52 <Zakim> agendum 7. "Alt guidance in HTML (and beyond)" taken up [from chaals]
15:15:01 <David> Chaals:We have changes... I'm expecting that we will have something to say we've made these changes... and an informative pointer... haven't got all the information, closing a few things
15:15:10 <Zakim> +John_Foliot
15:15:17 <David> After thqt we'll send a call for consensus
15:15:42 <David> Janina will touch base after call
15:15:52 <chaals> zakim, next item
15:15:52 <Zakim> agendum 8. "Table Summaries" taken up [from chaals]
15:16:09 <David> Marks sent email to list
15:17:28 <Zakim> +Judy
15:17:52 <MarkS> JF: Do we need to follow up with WCAG on this for techniques?
15:18:01 <MarkS> DM: I have not done anything with WCAG on this yet
15:18:09 <MarkS> JF: I'll follow up on that then
15:18:33 <chaals> zakim, next item
15:18:33 <Zakim> agendum 9. "Bugs and bug triage" taken up [from chaals]
15:19:32 <LJWatson> íhttps://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24642
15:19:38 <David> Lioni: We'll meet every second wednesday.. failry quiet so should be ok... sent one but to aria subteam for input
15:19:47 <Zakim> -Plh
15:19:57 <David> asks about role presentqtion on tables of border of 1
15:20:34 <David> We have a number of 5.0 bugs assigned to us that we need to look at quickly
15:20:36 <chaals> zakim, take up next item
15:20:36 <Zakim> agendum 10. "Other subteams" taken up [from chaals]
15:20:44 <MarkS> s/Lioni/LW/G
15:21:03 <MarkS> -> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Current_Bug_Triage_Issues Open bug issues
15:22:20 <David> Janina:We shpuld mention some of the media work... processing comments. prety much done, usual process of disposiitons on User reqwuirements on NOTE track... draft coming in june. Last publication had comments, we have a new draft
15:23:25 <David> it needs attention formEO they would like to tweak how we talke about owd in section 2 ... web and tv usergroup, need to make sure we cover off things we want in there ... high priorty
15:24:24 <David> thired point... weekly call, looks for new community groups, note, a group to create api for accessing media presentation includint alt formates... wnat to communicate with them...
15:24:30 <David> Mark and john are on group
15:25:24 <David> Mark: We don't have a lot of options for new call time, may have to widen net or accept that not all people can meet
15:25:50 <David> mark: new member shane mcarren (sp?)
15:26:09 <David> John: I can go earlier 7 pacific..
15:26:22 <David> John: Can't miss my regular managers m
15:26:23 <David> eeting
15:27:00 <chaals> zakim, take up next item
15:27:00 <Zakim> agendum 11. "Action item review" taken up [from chaals]
15:27:45 <David> Those who foolow details... we have 45 overdo items, names... john, rich, chaals, steve
15:28:06 <David> Chaals: Neet rot exercise
15:28:31 <chaals> -> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open?sort=owner outstanding action items
15:28:34 <David> Let's get the number down to find out athose we can work through each week
15:29:22 <David> Rich: Many are obe
15:29:45 <David> Chaals: If not releveant close it...
15:30:07 <chaals> zakim, next item
15:30:07 <Zakim> I do not see any more non-closed or non-skipped agenda items, chaals
15:30:22 <David> Chaals: I'll email people on list
15:31:02 <David> Janina: We spent some time looking at 5.1 might want to prioritize goals
15:31:06 <Judy> q+
15:31:12 <chaals> ack Judy
15:31:49 <David> Judy: Does it make sense to push through wsome of the existing action items now looking for OBE
15:32:10 <David> Chaals: Many will get closed.
15:32:37 <David> LJW: I can clear a lot of these OBE
15:32:51 <chaals> Topic: HTML 5.1
15:33:31 <MarkS> -> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Wishlist_for_HTML5.1 Vurrent 5.1 Wishlist
15:33:41 <MarkS> s/Vurrent/Current
15:34:11 <David> Janina: Not sure how to do that... need to prioritize, not sure  ...i'll do media, as a group
15:34:55 <MarkS> q+
15:34:56 <David> Chaals: I think we can look at wish list and see if we can get them done. I have  asotrong interewt in payment.
15:35:49 <David> Mark: Our options are file bugs, extension spec,or propose new feature
15:36:26 <richardschwerdtfeger> q+
15:36:30 <David> Chaals: other aspect. Watching things coming in 5.1 , build list of changes and make sure we are happy with changes
15:37:12 <chaals> ack ri
15:37:13 <chaals> ack ma
15:38:07 <David> Rich: athey want to move up time frame with 5.1 and we want to sync aria 1.1 with that year end 2016 but they are taling first quarter of 2015
15:39:24 <chaals> q+
15:39:31 <David> Rich: Creates issues because we want implimentation... tough to do by secnond quart next year.... we awanted to fill gaps in html, but this is a moving target, not sure how to sync them up.. understand frequent updates but it dows complicates it.
15:40:01 <David> janina: We're missing paul, sam and philip today... maybe another call to discuss it
15:41:18 <chaals> ack me
15:41:19 <David> Chaals: I'll talk to coordinators... not sure what to ask for ... slow down, decouple, catch up... we need to see what is going on and it's concrete,
15:41:35 <David> Rich: As long as it's brought up that's good with me...
15:42:05 <Zakim> -leonie
15:42:07 <Zakim> -John_Foliot
15:42:09 <Zakim> -chaals
15:42:12 <Zakim> -Judy
15:42:13 <Zakim> -janina
15:42:16 <Zakim> -Mark_Sadecki
15:42:18 <David> Chaals: Request those with action items look at them ... pick up action items... going to adjourn..
15:42:20 <Zakim> -Rich_Schwerdtfeger
15:42:31 <MarkS> David, I can cleanup and post the minutes
15:43:03 <David> Zakim, list attendees if everyone has not left
15:43:03 <Zakim> I don't understand 'list attendees if everyone has not left', David
15:43:15 <David> Zakim, list attendees if everyone has not left
15:43:15 <Zakim> I don't understand 'list attendees if everyone has not left', David
15:43:27 <David> Zakim, list attendees
15:43:27 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been David_MacDonald, Mark_Sadecki, [IPcaller], chaals, janina, Plh, leonie, Rich_Schwerdtfeger, John_Foliot, Judy
15:43:36 <David> zakim, bye
15:43:36 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were David_MacDonald, Mark_Sadecki, [IPcaller], chaals, janina, Plh, leonie, Rich_Schwerdtfeger, John_Foliot, Judy
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15:43:46 <David> rrsagent, make log public
15:43:58 <David> rrsagent, make minutes
15:43:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/05/01-html-a11y-minutes.html David
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