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19:33:16 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
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19:33:18 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be CRYPT
19:33:18 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SEC_WebCryp()3:00PM scheduled to start 33 minutes ago
19:33:19 <trackbot> Meeting: Web Cryptography Working Group Teleconference
19:33:19 <trackbot> Date: 21 April 2014
19:38:26 <virginie> virginie has joined #crypto
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19:54:31 <virginie> zakim, what conferences do you see?
19:54:31 <Zakim> I see no active conferences
19:54:32 <Zakim> scheduled at this time are Team_(mjs)20:00Z, XML_CG()3:00PM, GA_FXTF()4:00PM, WAI_PFWG(A11Y)3:00PM, SEC_WebCryp()3:00PM
19:55:41 <virginie> zakim, this will be SEC_WebCryp
19:55:41 <Zakim> ok, virginie; I see SEC_WebCryp()3:00PM scheduled to start 55 minutes ago
19:56:46 <virginie> this conference is SEC_WebCryp
19:56:59 <virginie> zakim, this conference is SEC_WebCryp
19:56:59 <Zakim> virginie, I see SEC_WebCryp()3:00PM in the schedule but not yet started.  Perhaps you mean "this will be SEC_WebCryp".
19:57:09 <hhalpin> trackbot, start meeting
19:57:11 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
19:57:13 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be CRYPT
19:57:13 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SEC_WebCryp()3:00PM scheduled to start 57 minutes ago
19:57:14 <trackbot> Meeting: Web Cryptography Working Group Teleconference
19:57:14 <trackbot> Date: 21 April 2014
19:57:18 <Zakim> SEC_WebCryp()3:00PM has now started
19:57:25 <Zakim> + +1.617.924.aaaa
19:57:40 <hhalpin> Zakim, what's the code?
19:57:40 <Zakim> the conference code is 27978 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), hhalpin
19:58:19 <Zakim> +karen_oDonoghue
19:58:28 <jyates> Zakim, aaaa is jyates
19:58:29 <Zakim> +jyates; got it
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19:59:09 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
19:59:12 <hhalpin> Zakim, IPcaller is hhalpin
19:59:12 <Zakim> +hhalpin; got it
19:59:25 <hhalpin> Zakim, agenda?
19:59:25 <Zakim> I see nothing on the agenda
19:59:53 <hhalpin> Zakim, agenda+ API status
19:59:53 <Zakim> agendum 1 added
19:59:57 <hhalpin> agenda+ Sept. workshop
20:00:01 <hhalpin> agenda+ Tests
20:00:01 <Zakim> +Virginie_Galindo
20:00:05 <hhalpin> agenda+ AOB
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20:00:55 <Zakim> + +1.503.528.aabb
20:01:18 <rbarnes> zakim, what's the conference number?
20:01:18 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, rbarnes.
20:01:18 <hhalpin> Zakim, aabb is drew
20:01:20 <Zakim> +drew; got it
20:01:26 <hhalpin> Zakim, what's the code?
20:01:26 <Zakim> the conference code is 27978 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), hhalpin
20:01:34 <rbarnes> thanks, harry :)
20:02:50 <Zakim> + +1.434.941.aacc
20:02:56 <rbarnes> zakim, i am aacc
20:02:56 <Zakim> +rbarnes; got it
20:03:24 <Zakim> +WSeltzer
20:03:58 <hhalpin> Zakim, who's on the phone?
20:03:58 <Zakim> On the phone I see jyates, karen_oDonoghue, hhalpin, Virginie_Galindo, drew, rbarnes, WSeltzer
20:04:34 <hhalpin> chair: virginie
20:04:41 <hhalpin> Zakim, pick a scribe?
20:04:41 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, hhalpin.
20:04:43 <hhalpin> Zakim, pick a scribe
20:04:43 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose rbarnes
20:05:04 <Zakim> + +1.650.275.aadd
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20:05:14 <jyates> Wendy, it's a Massachusetts holiday
20:05:27 <jyates> Patriot's day aka Bostong Marathon Day
20:05:37 <hhalpin> Previous minutes:
20:06:46 <hhalpin> Zakim, next agendum
20:06:46 <Zakim> agendum 1. "API status" taken up [from hhalpin]
20:07:00 <hhalpin> scribe: hhalpin
20:07:17 <hhalpin> rsleevi: No individual bugs update
20:07:24 <hhalpin> ...: Anne and Boris sent in feedback today
20:07:56 <hhalpin> ... what we sent to Last Call is not going to be satisfiable in terms of implementation
20:08:10 <hhalpin> ... I hope we have feedback by this time next week
20:08:32 <hhalpin> ... the main issue of notable and JWK import/export, working on iterating that should be up later today
20:08:41 <hhalpin> rbarnes: I can send you the WebIDL I have working
20:08:56 <hhalpin> rsleevi: I'd like to write it, sure, send it over
20:09:04 <hhalpin> q+
20:10:00 <hhalpin> q- hhalpin
20:10:32 <hhalpin> rsleevi: multiple implementations proceeding with multiple parties want to ship, that's an idealized W3C timeline
20:10:44 <hhalpin> ... not much in terms of large design reviews
20:10:56 <hhalpin> ... but we can't implement the spec as it is right now
20:12:37 <hhalpin> rsleevi: Once we get multiple browsers ready to ship
20:12:42 <hhalpin> ... regardless of W3C phase
20:12:58 <hhalpin> ... thus, it's very difficult to make change, lots of bugs coming in from implementation
20:13:07 <hhalpin> ... nothing from Microsoft but lots of other vendors
20:14:47 <hhalpin> So what I was saying is that Last Call is for other WGs and external groups to give us feedback
20:14:52 <hhalpin> CR is for implementation
20:14:59 <hhalpin> Looks like we're in CR to me almost already :)
20:15:33 <hhalpin> So I'm just making a process point that if we are moving into implementation we call it CR.
20:16:55 <hhalpin> virginie: feedback from implementers is coming in, didn't look at
20:16:59 <hhalpin> ... do we have any developer feedback?
20:17:30 <hhalpin> rsleevi: no, no substantial feedback from developers
20:17:32 <virginie> virginie has joined #crypto
20:17:36 <hhalpin> ... some people are playing with the API
20:17:38 <hhalpin> ... its still very early
20:17:55 <hhalpin> ... rbarnes, you haven't landed much into Mozilla?
20:18:03 <hhalpin> rbarnes: Working on it this week!
20:18:37 <hhalpin> q+
20:19:19 <hhalpin> ACTION: virginie to email the WGs that are in charter for feedback
20:19:19 <trackbot> Created ACTION-143 - Email the wgs that are in charter for feedback [on Virginie GALINDO - due 2014-04-28].
20:19:32 <virginie> agenda?
20:19:41 <hhalpin> topic: Sept workshop
20:19:45 <hhalpin> Here's a draft web-page
20:19:46 <hhalpin> http://www.w3.org/2012/webcrypto/webcrypto-next-workshop/Overview.html
20:19:50 <hhalpin> from Virginie's text
20:20:07 <hhalpin> virginie: dates are 10-11th of Sept.
20:20:29 <hhalpin> ... is this OK?
20:20:45 <hhalpin> ... some focus on the FIDO use-cases
20:21:08 <hhalpin> ... how to fit hardware tokens into the API
20:21:30 <hhalpin> ... interest from financial industry
20:23:16 <hhalpin> virginie: any problems with date and/or location?
20:23:23 <wseltzer> q+
20:23:31 <rbarnes> no objection to that date/location
20:24:11 <hhalpin> ack wselzter
20:24:15 <hhalpin> ack wseltzer
20:24:18 <hhalpin> q- hhalpin
20:25:09 <wseltzer> [our next step is to bring it to W3C management]
20:26:11 <wseltzer> [I hope to get that approval Wednesday]
20:27:34 <wseltzer> s/it/the workshop proposal/
20:30:54 <hhalpin> please get feedback by Wednesday on workshop before it goes to W3C management
20:31:08 <hhalpin> virginie: thanks to everyone for joining!
20:31:12 <Zakim> -rsleevi
20:31:15 <Zakim> -karen_oDonoghue
20:31:17 <Zakim> -rbarnes
20:31:18 <Zakim> -WSeltzer
20:31:23 <Zakim> -drew
20:31:25 <Zakim> -hhalpin
20:31:27 <Zakim> -Virginie_Galindo
20:40:43 <Zakim> -jyates
20:40:44 <Zakim> SEC_WebCryp()3:00PM has ended
20:40:44 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.617.924.aaaa, karen_oDonoghue, jyates, hhalpin, Virginie_Galindo, +1.503.528.aabb, drew, +1.434.941.aacc, rbarnes, WSeltzer, +1.650.275.aadd, rsleevi
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20:45:02 <hhalpin> trackbot, end meeting
20:45:02 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
20:45:02 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
20:45:10 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
20:45:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/04/21-crypto-minutes.html trackbot
20:45:11 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
20:45:11 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2014/04/21-crypto-actions.rdf :
20:45:11 <RRSAgent> ACTION: virginie to email the WGs that are in charter for feedback [1]
20:45:11 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/04/21-crypto-irc#T20-19-19