IRC log of forms on 2014-04-09

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Zakim, this will be IA_XForms
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ok, trackbot; I see IA_XForms()11:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute
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Meeting: Forms Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 09 April 2014
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14:59:44 [Steven_]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2014Apr/0004
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Chair: Steven
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/04/09-forms-minutes.html Steven_
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Let's get that right...
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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2014Apr/0011
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+??P15
15:03:05 [Steven_]
zakim, I am ?
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+Steven_; got it
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+[IPcaller]
15:03:39 [alain]
Zakim, I am [IPCaller]
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ok, alain, I now associate you with [IPcaller]
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+ebruchez
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Topic: Announcements etc
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Steven: Congratulations Erik, on Orbeon 4.5
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... anything of interest for us?
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Erik: Apart from what I mentioned in the email, we do have <hint> on individual items (such as check boxes)
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... which the spec doesn't support (yet)
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... which I raised in another mail
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... It is easy to do with radio buttons, but harder with drop downs.
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... other improvements are in the support tools and so on.
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Topic: Inconsistent description of attributes on <label> etc.
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2014Apr/0009.html
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Erik: I just replied; UI Common is the right one.\
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Steven: I'll fix.
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ACTION: Steven to fix inconsistent text on attributes for <label> etc.
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Created ACTION-1971 - Fix inconsistent text on attributes for <label> etc. [on Steven Pemberton - due 2014-04-16].
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Topic: @label, @help, @hint, @alert
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2014Apr/0005.html
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Steven: In the absence of objections, I plan to implement.
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Erik: <select1 ref="..." label="Gender">
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<item label="male">m</item>
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<item label="female">f</item>
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</select>
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Steven: Looks like a big change compared with the others.
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Alain: Not difficult to implement.
15:14:38 [Steven_]
Erik: It is a bit of a departure. But it's just a syntax issue. But it is more light weight.
15:14:59 [ebruchez]
<item label="male" value="'m'"/>
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... <item label="male" value="m"/>
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s/"m"/"'m'"/
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... it's not difficult to specify. But do we like it?
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Steven: The only thing is that it allows this: <item><label>male</label>m</item>
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Erik: That wouldn't be allowed.
15:17:55 [Steven_]
Steven: Then I don;t think we should do it.
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s/;/'/
15:18:02 [ebruchez]
<item>foo<label>…</label>bar</item.
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Steven: Then I propose we don't do the 'value-less' <item>
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Topic: ACTION-1970 - Propose list of page access functions [on Erik
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Bruchez - due 2014-04-09].
15:19:04 [Steven_]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2014Apr/0000.html
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http://www.w3.org/2014/04/02-forms-minutes.html#action01]
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Erik: I still have to do that
15:19:57 [Steven_]
Topic: XML => XPath Data Model
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2014Apr/0012.html
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Steven: Earlier we say "Otherwise the body is parsed to give an XPath Data Model according to Creating instance data from external resources. "
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Erik: You're new text is probably fine.
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s/'re/r/
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ACTION: Steven to make submission XML => XPath Data model change
15:23:14 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-1972 - Make submission xml => xpath data model change [on Steven Pemberton - due 2014-04-16].
15:23:43 [Steven_]
Topic: error-type
15:24:12 [Steven_]
Steven: I made the changes as agreed on last week, the diff is available here: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2014Apr/0013.html
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... please check to see you are OK with it.\
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[ADJOURN]
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-[IPcaller]
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-ebruchez
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-Steven_
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Attendees were Steven_, [IPcaller], ebruchez
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Present+Nick
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/04/09-forms-minutes.html Steven_
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s;Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2014Apr/0004;Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2014Apr/0011
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/04/09-forms-minutes.html Steven_
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s;Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2014Apr/0004;Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2014Apr/0011;
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s/Agenda: http:\/\/lists.w3.org\/Archives\/Public\/public-forms\/2014Apr\/0004/Agenda: http:\/\/lists.w3.org\/Archives\/Public\/public-forms\/2014Apr\/0011/
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present+ Alain
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