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19:50:27 <virginie> zakim, this conference will be SEC_WebCryp
19:50:27 <Zakim> ok, virginie; I see SEC_WebCryp()3:00PM scheduled to start 50 minutes ago
19:50:44 <virginie> zakim, this conference is SEC_WebCryp
19:50:44 <Zakim> virginie, I see SEC_WebCryp()3:00PM in the schedule but not yet started.  Perhaps you mean "this will be SEC_WebCryp".
19:51:12 <virginie> note for later : change the timing of the conf to 20:00 UTC
19:51:53 <virginie> zakim, what is the conference code?
19:51:53 <Zakim> the conference code is 27978 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), virginie
19:53:36 <wseltzer> trackbot, prepare teleconf
19:53:38 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
19:53:40 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be CRYPT
19:53:40 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SEC_WebCryp()3:00PM scheduled to start 53 minutes ago
19:53:41 <trackbot> Meeting: Web Cryptography Working Group Teleconference
19:53:41 <trackbot> Date: 07 April 2014
19:55:21 <virginie> agenda?
19:55:28 <virginie> agenda+ welcome
19:55:54 <virginie> agenda+ web crypto API status and comments
19:56:09 <virginie> agenda+ web crypto key discovery
19:56:32 <virginie> agenda+ WG F2F meeting and workshop for .next work
19:56:39 <virginie> agenda+ AOB
19:56:48 <virginie> agenda?
19:58:05 <Zakim> SEC_WebCryp()3:00PM has now started
19:58:12 <Zakim> + +1.617.253.aaaa
19:58:50 <jyates> Zakim, aaaa is jyates
19:58:50 <Zakim> +jyates; got it
20:00:38 <Zakim> +virginie
20:01:00 <virginie> zakim, who is on the phone
20:01:00 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is on the phone', virginie
20:01:30 <jyates> Zakim, who is on the call?
20:01:30 <Zakim> On the phone I see jyates, virginie
20:04:11 <jimsch> jimsch has joined #crypto
20:06:14 <terri> terri has joined #crypto
20:06:52 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:07:06 <jimsch> [ipcaller] is me
20:07:13 <jimsch> zakim, [ipcaller] is me
20:07:13 <Zakim> +jimsch; got it
20:07:18 <Zakim> +terri
20:07:35 <virginie> zakim, who is on the phone?
20:07:35 <Zakim> On the phone I see jyates, virginie, jimsch, terri
20:07:51 <hhalpin> hhalpin has joined #crypto
20:08:00 <hhalpin> trackbot, start meeting
20:08:02 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
20:08:04 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be CRYPT
20:08:04 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SEC_WebCryp()3:00PM scheduled to start 68 minutes ago
20:08:05 <trackbot> Meeting: Web Cryptography Working Group Teleconference
20:08:05 <trackbot> Date: 07 April 2014
20:08:32 <hhalpin> Zakim, who's on the phone?
20:08:32 <Zakim> I notice SEC_WebCryp()3:00PM has restarted
20:08:33 <Zakim> On the phone I see jyates, virginie, jimsch, terri
20:08:43 <hhalpin> Zakim, what's the code?
20:08:43 <Zakim> the conference code is 27978 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), hhalpin
20:09:18 <virginie> agenda?
20:09:25 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:09:31 <hhalpin> Zakim, IPcaller is hhalpin
20:09:31 <Zakim> +hhalpin; got it
20:10:56 <hhalpin> chair: Virginie
20:11:00 <hhalpin> scribe: hhalpin
20:11:20 <hhalpin> virginie: Will be short meeting, editors have given regrets
20:11:35 <hhalpin> topic: Web Crypto API status and comments
20:12:12 <hhalpin> virginie: limits of last call 20 May
20:12:15 <hhalpin> ... some remarks by the IETF
20:12:33 <hhalpin> ... brought some comments in from IETF SAAG
20:12:56 <hhalpin> (more or less same remarks as last time from CFRG, in particular problems around "recommendation")
20:14:03 <hhalpin> jimsch: IETF last call in 2-3 weeks, currently through IAB review
20:18:38 <hhalpin> [hhalpin explains W3C Last Call a bit]
20:18:57 <hhalpin> hhalpin: time now to formally close JOSE shortname issue or not
20:19:24 <hhalpin> virginie: same with recommendations
20:19:49 <jimsch> s/IAB/AD/
20:20:07 <hhalpin> for last call issues we can use "issue tracker" but we should make sure there is an appropriate bug in bugzilla
20:20:28 <hhalpin> it's OK to say we as Working Group X don't agree with Web Crypto WG's resolution, but some reasoning should provided
20:21:01 <hhalpin> I think we haven't gotten wide review quite yet during Last Call
20:21:31 <hhalpin> It would be good to get more developers review, as well more folks from the infosec/crypto API community
20:23:48 <hhalpin> topic: Web Crypto API Key Discovery
20:23:59 <hhalpin> virginie: no more discussion, should we go for a call on consensus?
20:24:16 <hhalpin> ... last call after two weeks
20:24:27 <hhalpin> ... once we have some discussion on the mailing list.
20:25:14 <hhalpin> topic: f2f meeting
20:25:26 <hhalpin> ... two options for f2f
20:25:47 <hhalpin> ... triggered a Doodle to collocate it with Security and Privacy Symposium
20:25:59 <hhalpin> ... f2f meeting in early June
20:26:14 <hhalpin> ... is it confusion or do people not want to meet?
20:26:21 <hhalpin> ... no face-to-face option
20:26:57 <hhalpin> q+
20:29:08 <jimsch> what are the dates on the october meeting?
20:29:40 <virginie> TPAC is detailed : http://www.w3.org/2014/11/TPAC/
20:29:47 <hhalpin> 27-31st of October
20:30:01 <hhalpin> I'd recommend going for 27-28th of october virginie :)
20:30:09 <hhalpin> (so I can be home on halloween)
20:30:27 <hhalpin> We *should* meet at TPAC
20:30:38 <jimsch> Middle of wine season
20:30:54 <hhalpin> And we will need to do serious test-suite interop work
20:31:15 <terri> if we have no open issues, we'll find any good reason to meet, eh? ;)
20:31:47 <terri> (seriously, though, the test-suite interop work sounds like a good reason)
20:33:09 <virginie> https://www.w3.org/2012/webcrypto/wiki/WG_Future_Work_hardware_token_workshop_2014
20:35:11 <hhalpin> topic: WebCrypto v.Next
20:35:19 <hhalpin> There is lots of interest
20:35:21 <hhalpin> but no host
20:35:32 <hhalpin> There seems to be a desire to want to do it in Sept.
20:36:27 <hhalpin> virginie: We must fix it now and host
20:36:35 <hhalpin> ... we need four months advance notice to get a global environment
20:38:04 <hhalpin> I agree with Sept. timezone
20:38:09 <hhalpin> see if we can find a host in that timeframe
20:38:44 <hhalpin> virginie: we need an attractive workshop
20:38:49 <hhalpin> ... with a good scope
20:39:07 <hhalpin> ... so we don't have to redo it after
20:39:11 <hhalpin> any questions?
20:39:39 <hhalpin> trackbot, end meeting
20:39:39 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
20:39:39 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been +1.617.253.aaaa, jyates, virginie, jimsch, terri, hhalpin
20:39:47 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
20:39:47 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/04/07-crypto-minutes.html trackbot
20:39:48 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
20:39:48 <RRSAgent> I see no action items