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14:00:52 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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14:00:54 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 4186
14:00:54 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see I18N_CoreWG()10:00AM scheduled to start now
14:00:55 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
14:00:55 <trackbot> Date: 03 April 2014
14:01:01 <r12a> zakim, this will be i18n
14:01:02 <Zakim> ok, r12a, I see I18N_CoreWG()10:00AM already started
14:01:08 <r12a> zakim, dial richard
14:01:08 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
14:01:10 <Zakim> +Richard
14:01:14 <matial> zzakim, who is here?
14:01:27 <matial> zakim, who is here?
14:01:27 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P15, Richard
14:01:29 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, matial, koji, r12a, trackbot
14:01:40 <matial> zakim, ??p15 is me
14:01:40 <Zakim> +matial; got it
14:01:49 <Zakim> +koji
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14:03:00 <Zakim> +JcK
14:04:40 <aphillip> aphillip has joined #i18n
14:05:15 <Zakim> +aphillip
14:05:17 <aphillip> zakim, who is here?
14:05:17 <Zakim> On the phone I see matial, Richard, koji, JcK, aphillip
14:05:19 <Zakim> On IRC I see aphillip, JcK, Zakim, RRSAgent, matial, koji, r12a, trackbot
14:05:46 <aphillip> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2014Apr/0000.html
14:06:37 <aphillip> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2014Apr/0000.html
14:06:45 <aphillip> agenda+ Universal Access
14:07:02 <aphillip> Topic: Action Items
14:07:18 <aphillip> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
14:07:29 <aphillip> ACTION-81
14:07:29 <trackbot> ACTION-81 -- Addison Phillips to Create blog post on what's going on with IRI -- due 2011-11-23 -- OPEN
14:07:29 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/81
14:07:44 <aphillip> https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/IRIStatus
14:09:01 <aphillip> close action-239
14:09:01 <trackbot> Closed action-239.
14:09:11 <aphillip> close action-293
14:09:12 <trackbot> Closed action-293.
14:09:24 <aphillip> close action-294
14:09:24 <trackbot> Closed action-294.
14:09:38 <aphillip> close action-296
14:09:38 <trackbot> Closed action-296.
14:10:16 <aphillip> Topic: Info Share
14:10:37 <aphillip> JcK: URN document will probably be posted tomorrow or monday
14:10:42 <aphillip> ... first step
14:10:54 <aphillip> ... remove URNs from category of URIs
14:12:33 <aphillip> richard: two best practices documents out for review currently
14:13:01 <aphillip> ... for two weeks from now
14:13:26 <aphillip> Topic: RADAR
14:13:43 <aphillip> https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Review_radar
14:16:25 <aphillip> Richard: working group extended for two years until 2015
14:17:55 <aphillip> agenda?
14:18:26 <aphillip> zakim, take up agendum 1
14:18:26 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Universal Access" taken up [from aphillip]
14:19:17 <aphillip> JcK: ICANN topic in an ICANN committee
14:19:33 <David> David has joined #i18n
14:19:44 <aphillip> richard: can you send link to the list?
14:20:02 <aphillip> richard: trying to follow IRI/URI/IDNA thing
14:20:17 <aphillip> ... Don Hollander sent me a ping
14:20:39 <aphillip> ... issue is that
14:20:52 <aphillip> ... IDNA works technically, but purchasers are unhappy
14:21:05 <Zakim> + +44.797.368.aaaa
14:21:11 <aphillip> ... because they aren't well supported widely away from the core DNS
14:21:18 <aphillip> zakim, +44 is David
14:21:20 <Zakim> +David; got it
14:21:26 <aphillip> zakim, mute David
14:21:26 <Zakim> David should now be muted
14:21:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/04/03-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
14:21:43 <aphillip> ScribeNick: aphillip
14:22:13 <aphillip> Richard: getting wide range of stakeholders together to discuss universal deployment of IDNs
14:22:25 <aphillip> ... and further discussion at MLWeb conf
14:22:48 <aphillip> JcK: Don is trying to raise visibility
14:23:09 <aphillip> ... some folks think this could work "by magic" and others want it to be improved
14:25:01 <aphillip> JcK: another problem is that (particularly in china) that there is non-UTF-8 content unlabelled or wrongly labelled
14:25:21 <aphillip> JcK: some of this stuff is "hard"
14:25:48 <aphillip> ... for example, mail fixes requires work on mail transports
14:26:06 <aphillip> ... in IMAP and POP clients
14:26:25 <aphillip> ... problem occurs when you read community boundary
14:26:39 <aphillip> ... MUAs run into problems crossing script boundaries
14:27:35 <aphillip> .... not to mention use of IDNs for spoofing
14:28:01 <Zakim> -David
14:28:42 <Zakim> +David
14:28:51 <aphillip> zakim, mute david
14:28:51 <Zakim> David should now be muted
14:34:22 <r12a> companies can change their policies to accept idn identifiers, but you may not be able to type it in to an airport terminal
14:34:54 <aphillip> addison: could solve the IDNA bit in isolation
14:35:16 <aphillip> ... but not the non-host part of URI or the local part of email, etc.
14:39:19 <aphillip> JcK: if you know the A label form you can use that (the punycode form)
14:39:31 <aphillip> ... might be solved by having a smartphone app to conver to ascii
14:40:00 <aphillip> ... the system is worldwide
14:40:11 <aphillip> ... but this solves communicating inside communities
14:40:17 <aphillip> ... say China-to-China
14:40:29 <aphillip> ... or Arabic-to-Arabic
14:40:39 <aphillip> ... but hard when you start to go Arabic-to-Chinese
14:42:38 <aphillip> addison: most systems can *read* or display the data
15:07:06 <aphillip> richard: who are the players. what's going on, what the issues are
15:08:25 <aphillip> addison start our own list of the problems?
15:18:47 <r12a> zakim, who's here?
15:18:47 <Zakim> On the phone I see matial, Richard, koji, JcK, aphillip, David (muted)
15:18:49 <Zakim> On IRC I see David, aphillip, JcK, Zakim, RRSAgent, matial, koji, r12a, trackbot
15:20:52 <aphillip> Topic: next telecon
15:21:11 <aphillip> see you in two weeks
15:21:16 <aphillip> Topic: AOB?
15:22:08 <Zakim> -koji
15:22:10 <Zakim> -aphillip
15:22:10 <Zakim> -JcK
15:22:11 <Zakim> -matial
15:22:11 <Zakim> -David
15:22:17 <r12a> zakim, drop richard
15:22:17 <Zakim> Richard is being disconnected
15:22:18 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()10:00AM has ended
15:22:18 <Zakim> Attendees were Richard, matial, koji, JcK, aphillip, +44.797.368.aaaa, David
15:22:19 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
15:22:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/04/03-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:22:21 <JcK> JcK has left #i18n
15:22:26 <aphillip> Chair: Addison Phillips
15:22:30 <aphillip> Scribe: Addison Phillips
15:22:35 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
15:22:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/04/03-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:23:12 <aphillip> Present: Richard, JcK, Mati, Koji, David, Addison
15:23:21 <aphillip> Regrets: Felix, Jan
15:23:32 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
15:23:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/04/03-i18n-minutes.html aphillip