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20:58:31 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be INDIE
20:58:32 <trackbot> Meeting: Independent User Interface Task Force Teleconference
20:58:32 <trackbot> Date: 02 April 2014
20:58:36 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_Indie()5:00PM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
20:58:37 <Zakim> WAI_Indie()5:00PM has now started
20:58:40 <Zakim> +??P1
20:58:47 <Zakim> +??P0
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20:59:50 <janina> zakimMeeting: IndieUI Task Force Teleconference
20:59:50 <janina> Chair: Janina_Sajka
20:59:50 <janina> agenda+ preview agenda with items from two minutes
20:59:50 <janina> agenda+ Teleconference Scheduling through April & Remaining Clock Adjustments
20:59:50 <janina> agenda+ Editor's Report
20:59:53 <janina> agenda+ Events Module Updates
20:59:55 <janina> agenda+ Events Requirements Status & Actions
20:59:58 <janina> agenda+ Events Testing Update
20:59:59 <Zakim> + +1.215.518.aaaa
21:00:00 <janina> agenda+ User Context Update; FPWD Criteria Discussion
21:00:03 <janina> agenda+ User Context Issues & Actions https://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/products/3
21:00:06 <janina> agenda+ Events Issues & Actions https://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/track/products/2
21:00:09 <janina> agenda+ Scribe for our Next Teleconference
21:00:11 <janina> agenda+ Be Done
21:00:56 <janina>  zakim, who's here?
21:00:56 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P1, ??P0, ??P2, +1.215.518.aaaa
21:00:58 <Zakim> On IRC I see jcraig, Zakim, RRSAgent, jasonjgw, taken, janina, smaug, MichaelC, hober, eeejay, trackbot
21:01:54 <Zakim> +[Apple]
21:02:07 <Zakim> - +1.215.518.aaaa
21:02:24 <jcraig> Zakim, Apple has jcraig
21:02:24 <Zakim> +jcraig; got it
21:02:42 <Zakim> + +1.215.518.aabb
21:02:43 <janina> zakim, ??P2 is me
21:02:43 <Zakim> +janina; got it
21:02:48 <jasonjgw> zakim, ??p1 is me
21:02:48 <Zakim> +jasonjgw; got it
21:03:07 <Zakim> - +1.215.518.aabb
21:03:12 <jcraig> Zakim, who is on the phone?
21:03:12 <Zakim> On the phone I see jasonjgw, ??P0, janina, [Apple]
21:03:13 <Zakim> [Apple] has jcraig
21:03:18 <Zakim> + +1.215.518.aacc
21:03:32 <jcraig> Zakim, ??P0 is kurosawa
21:03:33 <Zakim> I already had ??P0 as kurosawa, jcraig
21:04:16 <janina> zakim, who's on the phone?
21:04:16 <Zakim> On the phone I see jasonjgw, kurosawa, janina, [Apple], +1.215.518.aacc
21:04:18 <Zakim> [Apple] has jcraig
21:04:18 <Zakim> +??P5
21:04:57 <MichaelC> zakim, aacc is Andrew_Larkin
21:04:57 <Zakim> +Andrew_Larkin; got it
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21:06:37 <Zakim> +Rich_Schwerdtfeger
21:08:20 <janina> zakim, next item
21:08:20 <Zakim> agendum 1. "preview agenda with items from two minutes" taken up [from janina]
21:09:32 <janina> zakim, who's here?
21:09:32 <Zakim> On the phone I see jasonjgw, kurosawa, janina, [Apple], Andrew_Larkin, Michael_Cooper, Rich_Schwerdtfeger
21:09:34 <Zakim> [Apple] has jcraig
21:09:34 <Zakim> On IRC I see richardschwerdtfeger, kurosawa, jcraig, Zakim, RRSAgent, jasonjgw, janina, smaug, MichaelC, hober, eeejay, trackbot
21:11:13 <jasonjgw> Participants introduce themselves, with details of backgrounds (see previous minutes for most of these).
21:14:02 <jasonjgw> Andrew Larkin (accessibility at Comcast) gives his introduction, with particular interest in UI frameworks and Web design patterns in use at Comcast in relation with accessibility.
21:15:57 <jasonjgw> There's an open-source interaction framework under development and available in Github.
21:17:35 <jasonjgw> Andrew also has a background in writing polyfills.
21:18:32 <jcraig> github.com/comcast/xooie
21:18:51 <jcraig> https://github.com/comcast/xooie
21:19:24 <janina> zakim, next item
21:19:24 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, janina
21:19:31 <janina> q?
21:19:39 <janina> ack ??P1
21:19:44 <janina> next item
21:20:17 <janina> zakim, close this item
21:20:17 <Zakim> agendum 2 closed
21:20:18 <Zakim> I see 9 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
21:20:18 <Zakim> 3. Editor's Report [from janina]
21:20:21 <jasonjgw> Janina notes Australian eastern standard time will be in effect in two weeks, per regular meeting schedule.
21:20:23 <janina> zakim, next item
21:20:23 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Editor's Report" taken up [from janina]
21:21:48 <janina> regrets: Rich_Simpson
21:22:15 <jasonjgw> James: added some editorial changes clarifying goals for Events - mentioning polyfills as a transitional arrangement. While working on UI controller/trigger ideas, UIValueChangeRequest has been temporarily removed.
21:23:32 <jasonjgw> Based on work undertaken in ARIA, syntax highlighting has been introduced into the spec. Comments from screen reader users are solicited, for example, some samples are divided into separate elements. James plans to introduce CSS 3 speech properties for speaking punctuation.
21:24:04 <jasonjgw> The main normative edit is to include media playback request events (play/pause/toggle/stop/next and previous track).
21:25:02 <jasonjgw> James notes that this capability is not accessibility-specific, but will be useful to a range of users (including those with access needs) while attracting wider interest.
21:26:45 <jasonjgw> Additional events may be wanted for forward/rewind cases as continuous events.
21:27:51 <jasonjgw> These media events could be candidates for polyfill creation.
21:28:45 <jasonjgw> No one in the working group finds these changes objectionable.
21:29:21 <janina> zakim, next item
21:29:21 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Events Module Updates" taken up [from janina]
21:31:29 <jasonjgw> Andrew notes that he is reviewing the spec in relation to his use cases and will identify any additions/changes that may be desired.
21:31:59 <janina> zakim, close this item
21:31:59 <Zakim> agendum 4 closed
21:32:00 <Zakim> I see 7 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
21:32:00 <Zakim> 5. Events Requirements Status & Actions [from janina]
21:32:26 <janina> next item
21:33:13 <MichaelC> ack me
21:33:21 <MichaelC> ack me
21:34:50 <jasonjgw> Michael regards the requirements as incomplete at present. Use cases and corresponding requirements need to be documented, and requirements not so far identified need to be added.
21:35:56 <jasonjgw> Responding to Janina, Michael considers the material nearly ready for publication to obtain public review, but an additional (complete) draft would need to be published before the Events spec advances.
21:36:31 <jasonjgw> Michael clarifies that a purportedly final requirements draft should be published prior to Last CAll.
21:37:45 <jasonjgw> James notes that it would be helpful (but not necessary) to have polyfills available prior to Last Call. He notes that polyfills are effective in detecting bugs in the spec.
21:39:05 <jasonjgw> Michael: if Last Call is 4 months away or longer, there is time for two rounds of Requirements review, otherwise not.
21:40:59 <jasonjgw> James would like to have at least one more public working draft before Last Call (to be released during the next few months). James thinks we should wait for real implementations before Last Call, in order to avoid returning to Last Call a second time.
21:41:49 <jasonjgw> Michael: proposes to publish Requirements in the near future, including requests for review of specific components, then turn attention to testing and implementations while preparing a further draft of Requirements.
21:44:20 <jasonjgw> Michael thinks there is only minor work required to prepare it for publication and there are already useful editorial notes in place.
21:45:58 <jasonjgw> Michael: suggests publishing a first working draft of Requirements sooner rather than later.
21:48:24 <jasonjgw> Janina proposes to send out a call for consensus to publish the draft, giving wg participants a week during which to review it in case of any issues that would delay publication.
21:51:49 <jasonjgw> Substantive changes requiring further discussion may be considered at the next meeting, subject to extending the call for consensus if necessary.
21:55:02 <jasonjgw> Janina inquires about the possibility of changing the meeting day (but not the time). Given the time zones involved and the availability of participants, this seems unlikely to be feasible, except a last resort possibility for Friday afternoon Boston time.
21:59:11 <jasonjgw> Janina notes TPAC 2014 and the possibility of scheduling a face to face meeting there.
22:00:01 <jasonjgw> Proposed week of 27 October, leaving IndieUI available to meet on Thursday/Friday.
22:01:31 <jasonjgw> Meeting concludes.
22:01:34 <Zakim> -[Apple]
22:01:42 <jasonjgw> rrsagent, list participants
22:01:42 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'list participants', jasonjgw.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
22:01:44 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
22:01:49 <Zakim> -kurosawa
22:02:07 <Zakim> -Rich_Schwerdtfeger
22:02:13 <Zakim> -Andrew_Larkin
22:02:14 <jasonjgw> zakim, list participants
22:02:15 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been +1.215.518.aaaa, jcraig, +1.215.518.aabb, janina, jasonjgw, +1.215.518.aacc, kurosawa, Michael_Cooper, Andrew_Larkin, Rich_Schwerdtfeger
22:02:27 <jasonjgw> rrsagent, make minutes
22:02:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/04/02-indie-ui-minutes.html jasonjgw
22:03:55 <Zakim> -janina
22:03:57 <Zakim> WAI_Indie()5:00PM has ended
22:03:57 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.215.518.aaaa, jcraig, +1.215.518.aabb, janina, jasonjgw, +1.215.518.aacc, kurosawa, Michael_Cooper, Andrew_Larkin, Rich_Schwerdtfeger