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15:36:20 <Lisa_Seeman> regrets: debra Rue, Barry Johnson
15:36:38 <Lisa_Seeman> chair: Lisa_Seeman
15:36:47 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda: this
15:37:19 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ preview agenda
15:37:26 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ Possible date for FTF
15:37:33 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ Review of  GPII by Gregg Vanderheiden
15:37:39 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ Review of ISO By Liddy
15:37:46 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ Review of other work done , Specks to review
15:37:52 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ Adding ideas for inclusion
15:37:59 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ User group findings (possible item)
15:38:15 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ Actions and scedule for next call
15:38:24 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ be done
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15:57:50 <Zakim> +Gregg_Vanderheiden
15:58:45 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, ??P9 is Gregg_Vanderheiden
15:58:45 <Zakim> +Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it
15:59:03 <Zakim> + +1.780.934.aaaa
15:59:37 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, +1.780.934.aaaa is Kinshuk
15:59:38 <Zakim> +Kinshuk; got it
16:00:01 <Zakim> +??P10
16:00:02 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, who's here?
16:00:03 <Zakim> On the phone I see Gregg_Vanderheiden.a, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Kinshuk, ??P10 (muted)
16:00:03 <Zakim> On IRC I see Kinshuk, RRSAgent, Zakim, Lisa_Seeman, janina, MichaelC
16:00:18 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, ??P9 is Lisa_Seeman
16:00:18 <Zakim> I already had ??P9 as Gregg_Vanderheiden.a, Lisa_Seeman
16:00:31 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, ??P9 is Lisa_Seeman
16:00:31 <Zakim> I already had ??P9 as Gregg_Vanderheiden.a, Lisa_Seeman
16:00:44 <Zakim> +??P3
16:00:49 <janina> zakim, ??P3 is me
16:00:49 <Zakim> +janina; got it
16:00:50 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, ??P10 is John Rochford
16:00:50 <Zakim> I don't understand '??P10 is John Rochford', Lisa_Seeman
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16:01:02 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, +P10 is John Rochford
16:01:02 <Zakim> I don't understand '+P10 is John Rochford', Lisa_Seeman
16:01:15 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, who's here?
16:01:15 <Zakim> On the phone I see Gregg_Vanderheiden.a, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Kinshuk, ??P10, janina
16:01:17 <Zakim> On IRC I see ddahl, Kinshuk, RRSAgent, Zakim, Lisa_Seeman, janina, MichaelC
16:01:27 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, ??P10 is John Rochford
16:01:27 <Zakim> I don't understand '??P10 is John Rochford', Lisa_Seeman
16:01:39 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim,  ??P10 is John Rochford
16:01:39 <Zakim> I don't understand '??P10 is John Rochford', Lisa_Seeman
16:01:51 <Zakim> +Debbie_Dahl
16:02:05 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim,  ??P10 is John_Rochford
16:02:05 <Zakim> +John_Rochford; got it
16:02:07 <Zakim> +Mary_Jo_Mueller
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16:03:17 <Zakim> + +44.203.618.aabb
16:03:37 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, +44.203.618.aabb is Neil
16:03:37 <Zakim> +Neil; got it
16:03:49 <MaryJo> scribe:MaryJo
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16:05:34 <MaryJo> zakim, next item
16:05:34 <Zakim> agendum 1. "preview agenda" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
16:05:52 <MaryJo> LS: Gregg Vanderheiden will speak today on GPII.
16:06:34 <MaryJo> LS: Each of the disability group teams will be expected to report on their progress over the next few weeks.
16:06:43 <Zakim> +??P1
16:06:58 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis/Introduction#Methodology_in_User_Research
16:07:04 <MaryJo> LS: There should be two user scenarios for each disability type and the group will review and give feedback.
16:07:36 <MaryJo> LS: There will probably be two reviews of each disability type before we call that research work done.
16:07:42 <Zakim> +Suzanne_Taylor
16:08:05 <MaryJo> zakim, next item
16:08:05 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Possible date for FTF" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
16:08:09 <neilmilliken> Looking forward to hearing the update from gregg
16:09:17 <MichaelC> http://join.me/403094088
16:09:17 <Kinshuk> https://join.me/403094088
16:09:54 <Lisa_Seeman> http://registration.icchp.org/Programme/Overview
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16:10:27 <MaryJo> LS: There is an upcoming ICCHP conference in Paris from July 9-11.
16:12:05 <neilmilliken> I may be able to get to paris
16:12:22 <neilmilliken> its easier than san diego
16:12:22 <MaryJo> LS: The problem is it is in Paris, so not sure if others plan to be there - especially those in the U.S.
16:12:23 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
16:13:11 <MaryJo> LS: Will post this to the list to see how many could possibly attend.
16:13:16 <MaryJo> zakim, next item
16:13:16 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Review of  GPII by Gregg Vanderheiden" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
16:13:28 <Zakim> +Rich_Schwerdtfeger
16:14:58 <MaryJo> GV: Presenting the GPII work on global infrastructure.
16:16:10 <MaryJo> GV: Why GPII?  Not good solutions for everyone, and some can't afford solutions because of expensive technologies.
16:16:52 <MaryJo> Many people with disabilities have to apply for jobs on the Web, and solutions are often too complicated, like the web applications to change the thermostat.
16:17:23 <MaryJo> s/Many people/GV: Many people/
16:18:10 <MaryJo> GV: In addition, the solutions don't work on all different devices/platforms that people use.
16:18:25 <Zakim> -John_Rochford
16:18:55 <Zakim> +??P10
16:19:36 <MaryJo> GV: GPII is an infrastructure that makes it easy to find out what helps a person use a digital UI, invokes those features on any device - anywhere, any time, and makes it easier/less expensive to create new solutions.
16:20:16 <Zakim> -??P10
16:21:31 <MaryJo> GV: http://tinyurl.com/NSF-NIST-GPII-DEMO
16:21:56 <MaryJo> GV: This is a demo of how a user interface can be adjusted based on the specific users' needs.
16:23:32 <MaryJo> GV: The user has a card with an NFC that has their user settings/needs on it. If you approach a device that reads the NFC card and then the UI changes based on their needs.
16:24:48 <MaryJo> GV: The UI can be magnified, a screen reader could be automatically started, there could be highlighting, and any other number of adjustments to the UI.
16:25:33 <MaryJo> GV: It could even cause the user interface to be very simplified with only essential options presented to the user.
16:27:27 <MaryJo> GV: So for example if you have an elderly person, you could make a very simple mail function indicated by something familiar like a mailbox.  Then they can see the email as a simple post card with simple actions.
16:28:45 <MaryJo> GV: When the user replies to an email, they can get understandable feedback like a mail truck taking the sent mail.
16:29:19 <MaryJo> GV: There can also be a simple interface to access pictures they have received.
16:30:28 <MaryJo> GV: It is not a separate program internally, it is really the same program (like gmail) with a simplified and familiar user interface instead of a complicated user interface.
16:31:31 <MaryJo> GV: It makes computers more friendly for those unfamilar with technology so users feel empowered and capable of accomplishing tasks like sending email.
16:32:43 <MaryJo> GV: The framework for this will be open source and made available through GPII, and can be changed further based on what the user needs.  You could even create a UI with no words in environments where literacy is an issue.
16:33:29 <MaryJo> GV: GPII is built by the Raising the Floor consortium.
16:34:58 <MaryJo> GV: What makes it work?  1. Helping users find what will help them through user awareness, needs and preferences discovery and storage, GPII unified listing and marketplace, and a shopping aid.
16:36:31 <MaryJo> GV: 2. Provides acces instantly, anywhere on any device through a preferences server, real-time matching of preferences to find a good fit, delivery management of AT and UI adjustment, ...
16:37:15 <MaryJo> GV... media and materials to automatically help with transformation of the UI, and assistance on demand that the user can ask for help.
16:38:54 <MaryJo> GV: 3. Easier, lower-cost to create, market and support new solutions - Through a developer space with free and commercial parts/frameworks, consumers and experts connection that can help new developers, ...
16:40:09 <MaryJo> GV: ...service creation tools to help make accessible media and documents, a unified listing and marketplace and a micro finance infrastructure to help finance research and development.
16:40:58 <MaryJo> GV: Currently testing with various devices and operating systems - including kiosks, mobile, desktop, etc.
16:41:25 <MaryJo> GV: Working with standards groups to get the support for all of this in the standards.
16:42:28 <MaryJo> GV: The main driver for the GPII work was the cognitive area. It is difficult for people with cognitive disabilities to find and install and use the right assistive technology.
16:43:29 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
16:44:15 <MaryJo> LS: There is a lot of synergy between what our task force is doing and what GPII is developing as solutions in this space.
16:44:42 <MaryJo> LS: Are there metadata tags for different cognitive function already defined?
16:45:22 <neilmilliken> My understanding is it's based on user preferences
16:45:36 <MaryJo> GV: Yes and no. We don't describe users at all. We only describe what users need in the metadata.  We don't capture the users' disability, but instead capture their user needs/preferences.
16:46:47 <MichaelC> http://gpii.net/
16:46:51 <MichaelC> http://wiki.gpii.net/
16:46:53 <MaryJo> GV: The metadata captures the capabilities of the device to meet certain user needs/preferences, so they can add more capabilities later and add that to the metadata.
16:48:19 <MaryJo> GV: On the above website, there is a common terms registry ( http://wiki.gpii.net/index.php/Common_Terms_Registry ) which can be used in the user needs/preference statements.
16:50:16 <MaryJo> GV: There is no metadata describing the user.  The user would have to set their preferences to what would help them, like they prefer breadcrumbs.  Then if the product supports breadcrumbs it could turn that feature on.
16:51:03 <MaryJo> LS: The setup would not necessarily be easy as the user doesn't know what preferences to set up.
16:51:34 <MaryJo> GV: There would be a discovery and exploring aid to help the user discover what is helpful to them and then set set their own personal preferences.
16:51:59 <MaryJo> GV: Because not all individuals with low working memory will find the same features helpful.
16:52:31 <MaryJo> s/Because/As an example,/
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16:53:30 <MaryJo> GV: So that person would discover and explore what are the most helpful features and they would save that.  Then whenever technology supports those features, it can adjust to that particular users' needs.
16:53:32 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
16:54:59 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, who's here?
16:54:59 <Zakim> On the phone I see Gregg_Vanderheiden.a, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Kinshuk, janina, Debbie_Dahl, Mary_Jo_Mueller, Neil, Michael_Cooper (muted), Suzanne_Taylor, Rich_Schwerdtfeger,
16:55:03 <Zakim> ... Joseph_O´Conno
16:55:03 <Zakim> On IRC I see richardschwerdtfeger, st, MaryJo, neilmilliken, ddahl, Kinshuk, RRSAgent, Zakim, Lisa_Seeman, MichaelC
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16:55:45 <MaryJo> GV: The Access for All standard was used to create the preferences included in the IMS data registry.
16:57:10 <MaryJo> GV: The common terms registry is used to create the common terms used to write a metadata statement.
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16:57:54 <neilmilliken> Q+
16:58:15 <MaryJo> GV: We don't profile users, but instead profile in more general terms what features help users.
16:58:37 <Zakim> -Rich_Schwerdtfeger
16:59:26 <MaryJo> GV: The GPII doesn't create techniques, but fosters technique development by others. It is all about facilitating everyone on how to find, use and create accessibility features.
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17:00:14 <Zakim> -janina
17:01:26 <MaryJo> Liddy: Will talk next week about the ISO context of describing what are the user needs and has a vocabulary for doing that.
17:02:38 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
17:02:55 <MaryJo> Liddy: There are parts in the ISO work that the cognitive group can help out with determining what is the simplified language that could be helpful to users.
17:03:34 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Section_3
17:03:57 <MaryJo> LS: Made a page for ideas for inclusion, link above.
17:04:17 <MaryJo> LS: Use the wiki as a scratch pad so we don't lose any ideas.
17:06:25 <MaryJo> LS: Liddy will be presenting next week, and hopefully the aging and dementia or possibly the non-vocal group can present next week as well.
17:07:05 <MaryJo> GV: Will try to attend our meetings when he can.
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17:07:11 <Zakim> -Gregg_Vanderheiden
17:07:15 <Zakim> -Debbie_Dahl
17:07:16 <Zakim> -Kinshuk
17:07:54 <Zakim> -Suzanne_Taylor
17:08:00 <MaryJo> LS: Will check to see if Greg can send us a copy of the slides to share with the team.
17:08:40 <MaryJo> zakim, bye
17:08:40 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were Gregg_Vanderheiden, Kinshuk, janina, Debbie_Dahl, John_Rochford, Mary_Jo_Mueller, Neil, Michael_Cooper, Suzanne_Taylor,
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17:08:53 <MaryJo> rrsagent, make minutes
17:08:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/31-coga-minutes.html MaryJo
17:19:58 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make log world
17:55:43 <MaryJo> Meeting: Cognitive Accessibility Task Force
17:55:57 <MaryJo> rrsagent, make minutes
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17:56:39 <MaryJo> Meeting: Cognitive Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
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17:57:37 <MaryJo> s/Task Force/Task Force Teleconference/
17:57:44 <MaryJo> rrsagent, make minutes
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17:58:27 <MaryJo> s/Meeting: Cognitive Accessibility Task Force Teleconference//
17:58:35 <MaryJo> rrsagent, make minutes
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17:59:00 <MaryJo> s/Teleconference//
17:59:23 <MaryJo> s/Task Force/Task Force Teleconference/
17:59:28 <MaryJo> rrsagent, make minutes
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