IRC log of tt on 2014-03-27
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be TTML
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- ok, trackbot; I see SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute
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- Meeting: Timed Text Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 27 March 2014
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- SYMM_TTWG()10:00AM has now started
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- +glenn
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- getting coffee, brb
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- zakim, ??P8 is me
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- +nigel; got it
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- chair: nigel
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- Present: glenn, nigel
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- Regrets: tmichel
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- +pal
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- Present+ pal
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- Present+ plh
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- +[Microsoft]
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- Present+ jdsmith
- 14:10:00 [plh]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-members/2014JanMar/0069.html
- 14:10:17 [plh]
- http://www.w3.org/2014/03/timed-text-charter.html
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- 14:11:11 [nigel]
- topic: Charter
- 14:11:15 [nigel]
- scribeNick: nigel
- 14:12:02 [nigel]
- plh: Process: after 45 days people who didn't rejoin the group will be automatically kicked out. The 45 days start today.
- 14:12:23 [nigel]
- ... members need to go back to their AC rep and tell them to rejoin - should allow simple one click reappointment
- 14:13:10 [nigel]
- nigel: Section 6 of the charter has a revised Decision Policy
- 14:14:49 [nigel]
- nigel: motivation is to clarify the situation especially as we will have two modes of working.
- 14:15:05 [nigel]
- plh: this allows for better asynchronous decision making and has been adopted in other groups too.
- 14:15:32 [nigel]
- plh: that's why it says 'for 10 days decisions are provisional'. We expect the WebVTT part of the group to work more asynchronously.
- 14:16:01 [nigel]
- nigel: Thanks for doing the new charter!
- 14:16:55 [nigel]
- plh: I made one small edit to the milestones - the TTML2 CR milestone is pushed back by one month to take into account the August 'dead month'
- 14:17:06 [nigel]
- ... and the WebVTT milestones were pushed by 3 months.
- 14:17:18 [plh]
- http://www.w3.org/2014/03/ttml-diff.html
- 14:17:30 [nigel]
- plh: this is the link to a diff from the AC review version of the charter.
- 14:18:26 [nigel]
- topic: IMSC approach proposal (PAL)
- 14:19:09 [nigel]
- pal: the plan so far for IMSC had been for IMSC to reference TTML2. We still have a long list of issues to resolve so it looks like it won't be ready when we intended it to be ready, which
- 14:19:29 [nigel]
- ... means that IMSC would be delayed, according to the current plan. THere are some users of IMSC that are really interested in it in its current form,
- 14:19:45 [nigel]
- ... and there are other users that are interested in it in a more extended form that would be dependent on TTML2.
- 14:20:13 [nigel]
- ... So I've been exploring a plan to deliver IMSC 1.0 based on TTML1 and follow up with IMSC 2.0 to go alongside TTML2.
- 14:20:41 [nigel]
- ... IMSC 1.0 could go today and there are implementations to demonstrate it. As TTML2 makes progress we'll work on IMSC 2.0 and publish that when it's ready.
- 14:21:07 [nigel]
- ... I've not heard any fundamental obstacles. The first step in the plan is to see if there's any reason not to go ahead with it.
- 14:21:20 [nigel]
- ... Then start the process by publishing IMSC 1.0 as a FPWD and get started on it.
- 14:22:50 [nigel]
- nigel: notes that the charter milestones didn't push IMSC to match the end point of TTML2
- 14:23:33 [nigel]
- plh: agrees that he didn't
- 14:23:47 [nigel]
- plh: I'm no longer allowed to touch the charter!
- 14:24:16 [nigel]
- nigel: Decision to deliver IMSC as two versions, v2.0 to roughly match TTML2 in milestones.
- 14:25:20 [nigel]
- pal: I'm assuming that we won't get surprises in comments but maybe we will. I can start working on tweaking the current ED to match the new direction
- 14:25:29 [nigel]
- ... and to get the ED ready for a FPWD.
- 14:26:27 [nigel]
- nigel: it would be good to have a summary document describing the publication approach for IMSC either to put on the wiki or publish as a note.
- 14:27:12 [nigel]
- Action pal to draft a summary document on the wiki and post a link to it on the reflector
- 14:27:12 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-277 - Draft a summary document on the wiki and post a link to it on the reflector [on Pierre-Anthony Lemieux - due 2014-04-03].
- 14:27:29 [nigel]
- topic: TPAC 2014
- 14:28:11 [nigel]
- https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34314/TPAC2014Planning/
- 14:29:13 [nigel]
- nigel: if members could respond to this then that would be helpful.
- 14:29:52 [nigel]
- glenn: I think there should be a f2f and quite liked the Monday and Friday schedule, which was the least disruptive with respect to other groups.
- 14:31:20 [nigel]
- nigel: the poll closes on 1st May and we can make the decision in May.