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16:00:08 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
16:00:09 <Zakim> +gmandyam
16:00:10 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 28346
16:00:11 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see RWC_Audio()12:00PM scheduled to start now
16:00:11 <trackbot> Meeting: Audio Working Group Teleconference
16:00:11 <trackbot> Date: 27 March 2014
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16:00:28 <Domenic> Zakim, code?
16:00:28 <Zakim> the conference code is 28346 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), Domenic
16:01:41 <olivier> zakim, who is here?
16:01:41 <Zakim> I notice RWC_Audio()12:00PM has restarted
16:01:43 <Zakim> On the phone I see gmandyam, Doug_Schepers, +44.303.040.aaaa, Domenic
16:01:43 <Zakim> On IRC I see rtoyg_, RRSAgent, kawai, Zakim, shepazu, rtoyg, Domenic, paul_irish, mdjp, cwilso, olivier, toyoshiAw, trackbot
16:01:51 <olivier> zakim, aaaa is me
16:01:51 <Zakim> +olivier; got it
16:02:32 <Zakim> + +1.650.214.aabb
16:02:48 <cwilso> zakim, aabb has cwilso, rtoy
16:02:48 <Zakim> +cwilso, rtoy; got it
16:03:03 <cwilso> zakim, cwilso has rtoyg
16:03:03 <Zakim> sorry, cwilso, I do not recognize a party named 'cwilso'
16:03:04 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
16:03:17 <cwilso> zakim, aabb has rtoyg
16:03:17 <Zakim> +rtoyg; got it
16:03:24 <olivier> zakim, IPcaller is kawai
16:03:24 <Zakim> +kawai; got it
16:05:00 <Zakim> + +1.617.455.aacc
16:05:06 <Zakim> +??P24
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16:05:15 <olivier> zakim, aacc is Joe
16:05:15 <Zakim> +Joe; got it
16:05:21 <olivier> zakim, P24 is jer
16:05:21 <Zakim> sorry, olivier, I do not recognize a party named 'P24'
16:05:38 <jernoble> zakim, who is on the call?
16:05:40 <Zakim> On the phone I see gmandyam, Doug_Schepers, olivier, Domenic, +1.650.214.aabb, kawai, Joe, ??P24
16:05:40 <Zakim> +1.650.214.aabb has rtoyg
16:05:47 <jernoble> zakim, ??P24 is me
16:05:47 <Zakim> +jernoble; got it
16:06:29 <olivier> zakim, take up agendum 1
16:06:29 <Zakim> agendum 1. "review of action items - http://www.w3.org/2011/audio/track/agenda" taken up [from olivier]
16:06:45 <olivier> http://www.w3.org/2011/audio/track/agenda
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16:07:22 <olivier> action-97 due in 2 weeks
16:07:22 <trackbot> Set action-97 Start spreadsheet to triage issues for webaudio api due date to 2014-04-10.
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16:07:55 <olivier> zakim, close agendum 1
16:07:55 <Zakim> agendum 1, review of action items - http://www.w3.org/2011/audio/track/agenda, closed
16:07:57 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:07:57 <Zakim> 2. Update on data races and ScriptProcessorNode in workers [from olivier]
16:08:28 <olivier> We will be using https://github.com/w3ctag/spec-reviews/blob/master/2013/07/WebAudio.md - also split into issues in https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues?labels=TAGFeedback&page=1&state=open
16:09:20 <olivier> zakim, agenda?
16:09:20 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda:
16:09:22 <Zakim> 2. Update on data races and ScriptProcessorNode in workers [from olivier]
16:09:22 <Zakim> 3. Layering, Constructors, Subclassing [from olivier]
16:09:22 <Zakim> 4. Serialization/Introspection [from olivier]
16:11:01 <olivier> zakim, take up agendum 2
16:11:01 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Update on data races and ScriptProcessorNode in workers" taken up [from olivier]
16:11:03 <Zakim> + +1.415.254.aadd
16:11:20 <slightlyoff> sorry for being late
16:11:22 <cwilso> zakim, aadd is slightlyoff
16:11:22 <Zakim> +slightlyoff; got it
16:11:31 <slightlyoff> sgtm
16:11:52 <olivier> https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues/254
16:12:22 <olivier> https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues/66
16:12:56 <olivier> https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues/268
16:14:46 <slightlyoff> yes
16:15:08 <olivier> https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues/113 Worker-based ScriptProcessorNode
16:15:28 <olivier> recent discussion at https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues/16
16:15:46 <slightlyoff> interesting
16:17:09 <slightlyoff> why is that scarrier?
16:19:55 <olivier> q+ slightlyoff to ask why it is scarier (re comment in issue 16)
16:20:49 <slightlyoff> both seem productive
16:22:27 <slightlyoff> isn't it desireable to run script audio processing into the high-priority thread from a latency perspective?
16:23:16 <slightlyoff> isn't that glitchy?
16:23:31 <slightlyoff> I see
16:23:41 <slightlyoff> s/into/in/
16:23:59 <jernoble> zakim, q+
16:23:59 <Zakim> I see slightlyoff, jernoble on the speaker queue
16:24:01 <slightlyoff> so what?
16:24:03 <olivier> cwilso: explains how processing works in blink ATM
16:24:05 <slightlyoff> q-
16:24:24 <Domenic> there have been requests for that on some list somewhere...
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16:26:08 <Domenic> q+
16:26:13 <joe> q+
16:26:19 <slightlyoff> thanks....
16:26:23 <slightlyoff> sorry to fill the channel
16:27:00 <olivier> ack jer
16:28:05 <slightlyoff> I'm not following...we're giving people power...if we need to set limits on it, shouldn't it be to cap processing time slices?
16:28:18 <olivier> ack Domenic
16:30:08 <cwilso> q+ to respond to Alex's cap processing time slices question
16:34:02 <slightlyoff> I think I need to go...will try to come back if my other meeting ends early
16:34:03 <Domenic> makes sense, thanks very much.
16:34:05 <slightlyoff> I'm sorry
16:34:19 <Zakim> -slightlyoff
16:34:31 <olivier> ack joe
16:35:09 <Domenic> good question
16:36:13 <Domenic> (maybe record that question in https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues/113 for posterity; it's a very helpful clarification IMO)
16:38:41 <Domenic> what about with complexity-in-worker AudioContext; would ScriptProcessorNode be able to run in that worker thread?
16:41:13 <cwilso> ack cwilso
16:41:13 <Zakim> cwilso, you wanted to respond to Alex's cap processing time slices question
16:44:41 <cwilso> agenda?
16:45:14 <olivier> zakim, take up agendum 4
16:45:14 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Serialization/Introspection" taken up [from olivier]
16:45:22 <olivier> https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues/256
16:45:30 <olivier> https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues/164
16:47:50 <joe> 1+
16:47:52 <joe> q+
16:51:48 <Domenic> sounds good :)
16:52:37 <Domenic> agree that misunderstanding seems prevalent. love the pixels analogy.
16:54:33 <olivier> zakim, close agendum 4
16:54:33 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, olivier
16:54:36 <olivier> q-
16:54:40 <olivier> ack joe
16:54:42 <olivier> zakim, close agendum 4
16:54:42 <Zakim> agendum 4, Serialization/Introspection, closed
16:54:43 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
16:54:43 <Zakim> 2. Update on data races and ScriptProcessorNode in workers [from olivier]
16:54:50 <olivier> zakim, take up agendum 3
16:54:50 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Layering, Constructors, Subclassing" taken up [from olivier]
16:55:15 <olivier> Domenic explains the general approach about layering issue
16:55:42 <olivier> ... "treat it as if it were built in javascript"
16:56:20 <olivier> https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues/257
16:56:52 <olivier> cwilso: 2 ways of looking at layering
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16:57:00 <olivier> ... is audio tag built on top of webaudio?
16:57:14 <olivier> ... and question of how webaudio itself is built
16:57:17 <padenot> oops, I think I messed up the timezone calculations
16:57:24 <olivier> Domenic: agree - they are separate
16:58:13 <Domenic> woah that's awesome
16:58:34 <olivier> jernoble: have draft which explains audio element in terms of webaudio
16:58:39 <olivier> (nice!)
17:00:03 <olivier> olivier: would that be informative? not sure how it could be made normative
17:00:15 <olivier> Domenic: what happens under the hood should be undistinguishable
17:00:26 <joe> sorry, must go
17:00:32 <Zakim> -Joe
17:01:10 <olivier> ACTION: jernoble to share draft explaining HTML audio in terms of webaudio
17:01:11 <trackbot> Created ACTION-98 - Share draft explaining html audio in terms of webaudio [on Jer Noble - due 2014-04-03].
17:02:41 <Zakim> -jernoble
17:02:45 <Zakim> - +1.650.214.aabb
17:02:46 <Zakim> -Domenic
17:02:46 <Zakim> -olivier
17:02:48 <Zakim> -Doug_Schepers
17:02:49 <Zakim> -gmandyam
17:02:50 <Zakim> -kawai
17:02:51 <Zakim> RWC_Audio()12:00PM has ended
17:02:51 <Zakim> Attendees were gmandyam, Doug_Schepers, +44.303.040.aaaa, Domenic, olivier, cwilso, rtoy, rtoyg, kawai, +1.617.455.aacc, Joe, jernoble, +1.415.254.aadd, slightlyoff
17:02:51 <olivier> rrsagent, make minutes
17:02:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/27-audio-minutes.html olivier
17:03:04 <olivier> meeting adjourned - next 10th April 2014
17:03:21 <olivier> olivier has changed the topic to: W3C Audio WG - last meeting http://www.w3.org/2014/03/27-audio-minutes.html - Next 2014-04-10
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17:18:46 <cwilso> hey, so are we just punting on having a FTF prior to the TPAC?
17:21:04 <padenot> dunno, I've asked around if I could host, but somehow nobody anwsered, I'll ask again
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