IRC log of webperf on 2014-03-26
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/03/26-webperf-irc
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- RRSAgent, make logs world
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- Zakim, this will be WPWG
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- I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
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- Meeting: Web Performance Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 26 March 2014
- 19:01:49 [plh]
- zakim, this will be per
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- ok, plh, I see RWC_web-per()3:00PM already started
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- +Plh
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- +tobint
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- present+ tobint
- 19:04:06 [plh]
- scribe: plh
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- agenda+ resource priorities
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- agenda+ HRT2
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- agenda+ Beacon
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- agenda+ RAF
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- agenda+ Other issues
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- zakim, aaaa is Mike
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- +Mike; got it
- 19:07:04 [plh]
- agenda?
- 19:07:06 [tobint]
- present+ tobint
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- +tobint
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- zakim, Microsoft is Tobin
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- +Tobin; got it
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- zakim, move to next agendum
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- agendum 1. "resource priorities" taken up [from plh]
- 19:07:57 [plh]
- Tobin: last week, we were wondering if the HTML WG was still up-to-date with resource priorities. talked to Travis.
- 19:08:01 [tobint]
- http://www.w3.org/2014/03/20-html-wg-minutes.html#item09
- 19:08:07 [plh]
- ... also joined the conference call for the html wg
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- ... and bring them in sync
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- ... they did tell us that we can bring things in the spec, once we're ready
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- ... two items
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- ... wanted to scope down resource priorities
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- ... ie remove postpone for now
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- ... until we have a good handle on the rest
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- ... is there something we still want to do?
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- plh: seems so, from the list
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- http://www.w3.org/2010/webperf/track/actions/open
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- ACTION: Tobin to remove postpone from Resource Priorities
- 19:10:53 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-130 - Remove postpone from resource priorities [on Tobin Titus - due 2014-04-02].
- 19:11:02 [plh]
- close action-129
- 19:11:02 [trackbot]
- Closed action-129.
- 19:11:31 [plh]
- Tobin: once we scope down, we'll push an update
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- zakim, move to next agendum
- 19:12:08 [Zakim]
- agendum 2. "HRT2" taken up [from plh]
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- http://www.w3.org/2010/webperf/track/issues/13
- 19:12:37 [plh]
- plh: this is a last call issue
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- http://www.w3.org/TR/dom/#interface-event
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- plh: there is a timeStamp there
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- ... of DOMTimeStamp
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- ... and doesn't use DOMHighResStamp
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- ... so, is it DOM or HR2 issue?
- 19:15:05 [plh]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-dom/2012OctDec/0028.html
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- Tobin: I'll need to check with Jatinder on this one
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- ACTION: Tobin to follow with Jatinder on HRT2 and DOM Events
- 19:16:31 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-131 - Follow with jatinder on hrt2 and dom events [on Tobin Titus - due 2014-04-02].
- 19:16:52 [plh]
- plh: you may also want to talk to Travis as well
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- ... since he is doing D3E
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- zakim, move to next agendum
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- agendum 3. "Beacon" taken up [from plh]
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- action-113?
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- action-113 -- Tobin Titus to Update beacon use cases to just be the asynchronous data sending case -- due 2013-11-21 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/2010/webperf/track/actions/113
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- issue-12?
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- issue-12 -- Determine appropriate size limit for beacon data based on current usage patterns -- raised
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- http://www.w3.org/2010/webperf/track/issues/12
- 19:20:32 [plh]
- plh: Mike, any idea of what Akamai would like on this?
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- Mike: it depends on the data. resource timing is bigger than navigation timing
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- ... could look into it
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- tobin: should it be on an individual request or on the queue?
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- ... trying to make a guarantee could be a disaster
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- plh: beacon doesn't return errors, so you don't know
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- tobin: it could be per implementation
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- ... so not sure that specifying is a good thing
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- ... I'm for a size per message, but not for a queue
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- mike: i'll look at the sizes we're sending
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- ACTION: Mike to provide on data size for beacon
- 19:26:10 [trackbot]
- 'Mike' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., mmccall, mike).
- 19:26:36 [plh]
- ACTION: mmcall to provide on data size for beacon
- 19:26:36 [trackbot]
- Error finding 'mmcall'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2010/webperf/track/users>.
- 19:26:51 [plh]
- ACTION: mmccall to provide on data size for beacon
- 19:26:51 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-132 - Provide on data size for beacon [on Mike McCall - due 2014-04-02].
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- zakim, move to next agendum
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- agendum 4. "RAF" taken up [from plh]
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- https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/issues?labels=animation-timing
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- plh: we'
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- 're missing tests
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- https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/showcomment?chain=1469
- 19:28:32 [plh]
- ACTION: Tobin to look at https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/showcomment?chain=1469
- 19:28:32 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-133 - Look at https://critic.hoppipolla.co.uk/showcomment?chain=1469 [on Tobin Titus - due 2014-04-02].
- 19:29:02 [plh]
- plh: this generates inconsistent results for the tests
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- plh: once we have the tests, we could move it to proposed recommendation
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- https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pull/425
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- zakim, move to next agendum
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- agendum 5. "Other issues" taken up [from plh]
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- Mike: adding protocol and size in resource timing
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- ... what's the status?
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- ACTION: plh to find the status of protocol and size in resource timing
- 19:32:42 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-134 - Find the status of protocol and size in resource timing [on Philippe Le Hégaret - due 2014-04-02].
- 19:32:55 [plh]
- https://www.w3.org/wiki/Web_Performance/Publications
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- [adjourned]
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- -Tobin
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- -Rob
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- -Mike
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- RWC_web-per()3:00PM has ended
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- Attendees were Rob, +1.617.444.aaaa, Plh, Mike, Tobin
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- RWC_web-per()3:00PM has now started
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- +[Microsoft]
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- -[Microsoft]
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- RWC_web-per()3:00PM has ended
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- Attendees were [Microsoft]
- 19:36:54 [plh]
- rrsagent, generate minutes
- 19:36:54 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/26-webperf-minutes.html plh
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- Present+ Tobin
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- Present+ Mike
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- Present+ Philippe
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- Present+ Rob
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- Chair: Tobin
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- rrsagent, generate minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/26-webperf-minutes.html plh
- 19:42:22 [plh]
- close action-119
- 19:42:22 [trackbot]
- Closed action-119.