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16:01:27 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
16:01:27 <trackbot> Date: 13 March 2014
16:01:41 <Zakim> +Plh
16:02:15 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
16:02:28 <krisk> Zakim, [Microsoft] is krisk
16:02:28 <Zakim> +krisk; got it
16:02:57 <Zakim> +pladd
16:02:57 <krisk> Chair: rubys
16:03:01 <krisk> scribe: krisk
16:03:01 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
16:03:04 <krisk> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014JanMar/0022.html
16:03:05 <jaymunro> zakim, microsoft has me
16:03:05 <Zakim> +jaymunro; got it
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16:03:45 <krisk> TOPIC: ACTION items due by Thursday, March 13
16:03:49 <krisk> none
16:03:49 <janina> zakim, call janina
16:03:50 <Zakim> ok, janina; the call is being made
16:03:51 <Zakim> +Janina
16:04:01 <krisk> TOPIC: Last Calls
16:04:13 <krisk> SUBTOPIC: Polyglot Markup
16:04:20 <krisk> This is progressing with one bug
16:04:26 <krisk> see http://tinyurl.com/pzo933q
16:04:35 <krisk> SUBTOPIC: W3C DOM4
16:04:49 <krisk> 6 bugs  http://tinyurl.com/q6ea7mn
16:05:08 <krisk> plh: where were these bugs from pf?
16:05:26 <krisk> rubys: No bugs from pf and they sent and email saying they don't expect and bugs for DOM4
16:05:53 <krisk> plh: Looks like only one technical bug, others are editorials
16:05:54 <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2014Mar/0007.html
16:06:16 <krisk> plh: next step is for robin to update bugs?
16:06:28 <krisk> rubys: correct and then we can move to CR
16:06:33 <krisk> SUBTOPIC: CR Progress
16:06:44 <krisk> SUBTOPIC: Move Canvas2D back to last call
16:06:51 <krisk> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2014JanMar/0172.html
16:07:23 <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2014JanMar/0172.html
16:07:23 <krisk> rubys: oops that is the wrong link, hold on I'll find the right link
16:08:05 <krisk> krisk: rubys: that is actually the right link
16:08:16 <krisk> rubys: good progress is still being made
16:08:23 <krisk> SUBTOPIC: HTML5.0
16:08:36 <krisk> Still have 8 bugs not progressing
16:08:43 <krisk> see http://tinyurl.com/le59ctq
16:08:57 <krisk> Goal is to close these bugs by Saturday
16:10:02 <krisk> krisk: I have a few people look for test that fail in all browser - specifically broken tests
16:10:16 <krisk> krisk: Happy to share these results
16:10:40 <krisk> plh: The test report page has also been updated
16:10:54 <krisk> TOPIC: Task Force Reports
16:11:02 <krisk> SUBTOPIC: Testing Task Force
16:11:25 <rubys> s/SUBTOPIC: CR Progress/TOPIC: CR Progress/
16:11:36 <krisk> krisk: As mentioned above I have some people looking at testsin github, looking for tests that fail in multiple browsers
16:11:52 <krisk> krisk: We also started to look that the MSE github tests from google
16:12:17 <krisk> krisk: I also will send an email/ask about getting some DOM4 tests for newer parts of the spec
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16:13:19 <plh> http://w3c-test.org/tools/runner/index.html
16:13:29 <krisk> plh: Last week mike smith deployed the new testing server (see above)
16:13:35 <krisk> krisk: neat!
16:14:04 <krisk> plh: So now basically no apache, just the python server
16:14:43 <krisk> plh: So if you go to the link you can run all the tests, just a start but it up and running for some of the DOM tests
16:15:42 <krisk> SUBTOPIC: Accessibility Task Force
16:16:01 <krisk> janina: Small turn out and we are not meeting next week
16:16:17 <krisk> janina: Canvas is progressing and long desc is moving slow
16:16:31 <krisk> janina: F2F should help longdesc
16:17:14 <krisk> janina: We are talking about F2F topics - possible issue or extension specs
16:17:38 <krisk> janina: We need an update from steven about 'alt' and getting this back into the 5.0 spec
16:17:46 <krisk> SUBTOPIC: Media Task Force
16:18:10 <krisk> rubys: paulc is oof in china, let's get and update next week
16:18:18 <krisk> TOPIC: Other Business
16:18:31 <krisk> plh: I wanted to talk about normative references in the 5.0 spec
16:18:40 <rubys> s/get and update/get an update/
16:19:04 <krisk> plh: I am hoping to provide some good information about having the normative references are stable
16:20:15 <rubys> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/51wishlist
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16:22:03 <krisk_> plh: I wanted to ask about use cases in 5.1 that don't exist in 5.0
16:22:24 <krisk_> janina: We are revisiting this as mentioned about
16:22:31 <krisk_> s/about/above/
16:22:35 <krisk_> janina: For example date and time pickers on the web are very problematic
16:23:07 <krisk_> janina: This could be a good F2F discussion, I won't be at the F2F but a conf call would work
16:23:33 <krisk_> janina: One item to get done is the accessibility mapping for 5.0
16:23:57 <krisk_> janina: Having this ready in the 5.0 timeframe and aria 1.1
16:24:23 <krisk_> janina: This document may have normative parts and not just a 'note'
16:24:41 <krisk_> rubys: any other items to discuss?
16:24:50 <krisk_> plh: will scribe
16:24:58 <krisk_> thanks!
16:25:03 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
16:25:05 <Zakim> -Daniel_Wester
16:25:05 <Zakim> -pladd
16:25:06 <Zakim> -Sam
16:25:06 <Zakim> -Plh
16:25:07 <Zakim> -krisk
16:25:07 <Zakim> -Janina
16:25:07 <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
16:25:07 <Zakim> Attendees were Sam, Daniel_Wester, Plh, krisk, pladd, jaymunro, Janina
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16:25:13 <krisk_> meeting adjourned
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