IRC log of mobile-a11y on 2014-03-07
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/03/07-mobile-a11y-irc
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- RRSAgent, make logs 328
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- Zakim, this will be
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- I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
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- Meeting: Mobile Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
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- Date: 07 March 2014
- 14:25:25 [Kathy]
- zakim, this will be 6283
- 14:25:25 [Zakim]
- ok, Kathy; I see WAI_MATF()10:00AM scheduled to start in 35 minutes
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- chair: Kim Patch
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- agenda?
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- agenda+ WCAG 2.0 Techniques & Understanding Documents
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- agenda+ Gap Analysis with external mobile guidelines
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- agenda+ Next Steps
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- agenda?
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- agenda?
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- WAI_MATF()10:00AM has now started
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- +Kim_Patch
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- +Kathy_Wahlbin
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- https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/66524/20140228-survey/?
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- + +1.910.278.aaaa
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- zakim, aaaa is me
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- +kathleen; got it
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- + +1.720.663.aabb
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- +??P8
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- zakim, ??P8 is Michael_Cooper
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- +Michael_Cooper; got it
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- zakim, aabb is Alan_Smith
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- +Alan_Smith; got it
- 15:01:20 [MichaelC]
- zakim, who is on the phone?
- 15:01:20 [Zakim]
- On the phone I see Kim_Patch, Kathy_Wahlbin, kathleen, Alan_Smith, Michael_Cooper
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- +WuWei
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- zakim, Alan is David_Tood
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- +David_Tood; got it
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- zakim, David is David_Todd
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- +David_Todd; got it
- 15:02:33 [Kathy]
- scribe: Kathy
- 15:02:48 [MichaelC]
- agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mobile-a11y-tf/2014Mar/0000.html
- 15:02:51 [Kathy]
- zakim, take up next
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- agendum 1. "WCAG 2.0 Techniques & Understanding Documents" taken up [from Kathy]
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- +Alan_Smith
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- https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/66524/20140228-survey/results
- 15:04:24 [Kathy]
- TOPIC: Survey Results
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- Kim: need a volunteer for Silverlight Techniques
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- Kathleen: works on Netflix on a mobile device, not supported on Windows. I will research more
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- + +1.703.637.aacc
- 15:08:42 [jon_avila]
- zakim, aacc is jon_avila
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- +jon_avila; got it
- 15:08:59 [Kathy]
- https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/Draft_Understanding_WCAG_2.0
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- Kim - we need volunteers for the understanding document
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- Kathy: broken into sections
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- David - I will do 3.1 - 3.2
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- Kathy - I will do 1.1-1.4
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- Kim - this can be done over the next couple of weeks
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- Kim - we will email for additional volunteers for the remaining sections
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- zakim, take up next
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- agendum 2. "Gap Analysis with external mobile guidelines" taken up [from Kathy]
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- Kim - Alan had a suggestion
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- Alan - mobile app has a main menu that flies in from the side that either replaces the content, the menu do not get read correctly. This happens quite frequently when views are used
- 15:14:15 [jon_avila]
- q+
- 15:14:55 [Kathy]
- jon - are we doing techniques for specific platform
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- kathy - we have not determined that yet
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- jon - we should talk to organizations
- 15:16:12 [MichaelC]
- ack me
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- Michael - Apple is a member and we can solicit them
- 15:16:52 [jon_avila]
- q-
- 15:16:56 [MichaelC]
- zakim, mute me
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- Michael_Cooper should now be muted
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- Kathy - jon how would we phrase that
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- Jon - there is a change of context and hiding content
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- Jon - I will look up and suggest this
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- Alan - issues when AT is turned on but works fine when not turned on
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- Kim - are there other missing techniques
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- Kim - Jan has sent a gap analysis with the BBC guidelines
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- Kim - the other two big guidelines should be reviewed. Are there other guidelines?
- 15:21:04 [Kathy]
- Kim - BBC, Funka Nu and IBM
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- Kim - we are looking for volunteer for Funka Nu and IBM guidelines and put together similar report like Jan did for BBC
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- Alan - I will do the IBM guidelines
- 15:22:27 [MichaelC]
- ack me
- 15:23:00 [Kathy]
- http://www.funkanu.com/PageFiles/18509/Mobile-Navigation-Guidelines-Funka-2014.pdf
- 15:23:06 [Kathy]
- http://www.funkanu.com/PageFiles/18509/Guidelines_for_the_development_of_accessible_mobile_interfaces.pdf
- 15:23:20 [MichaelC]
- s/Alan - I will do/David - I will do/
- 15:23:25 [MichaelC]
- zakim, mute me
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- Michael_Cooper should now be muted
- 15:23:48 [jon_avila]
- q+
- 15:24:46 [Kathy]
- jon - the guidelines are best practices and may not have direct mappings. We should think about how they would be categorized - failures, advisory, best practice
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- kathy - good idea
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- Jon - look at the research between touch size
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- Kathy - look at MIT touch lab study
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- Kim - should we look at the on the research side
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- Kathy - we will reach out to the mailing list
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- zakim, take up next
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- I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, Kathy
- 15:29:27 [Kathy]
- Kathy - take the rest of the meeting to work on the techniques and the understanding doc
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- Kim - we will have a meeting next week
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- q+
- 15:30:28 [Kathy]
- Kim - no meeting the following week
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- -Michael_Cooper
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- -Alan_Smith
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- -David_Todd
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- -kathleen
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- -Kathy_Wahlbin
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- -WuWei
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- q- j
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- 1. zakim, list attendees
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- zakim, list attendees
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- As of this point the attendees have been Kim_Patch, Kathy_Wahlbin, +1.910.278.aaaa, kathleen, +1.720.663.aabb, Michael_Cooper, Alan_Smith, WuWei, David_Tood, David_Todd,
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- ... +1.703.637.aacc, jon_avila
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/07-mobile-a11y-minutes.html Kathy
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- -Kim_Patch
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- WAI_MATF()10:00AM has ended
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- Attendees were Kim_Patch, Kathy_Wahlbin, +1.910.278.aaaa, kathleen, +1.720.663.aabb, Michael_Cooper, Alan_Smith, WuWei, David_Tood, David_Todd, +1.703.637.aacc, jon_avila
- 15:32:23 [Kathy]
- rrsagent, make log world
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- Regrets: Alistair, Jan
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/03/07-mobile-a11y-minutes.html Kathy
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