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17:59:39 <trackbot> Meeting: Technical Architecture Group Teleconference
17:59:39 <trackbot> Date: 06 March 2014
18:00:17 <Domenic__> Zakim, code?
18:00:17 <Zakim> the conference code is 0824 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), Domenic__
18:00:43 <dka> Regrets: Jeni
18:00:45 <Zakim> +Domenic__
18:00:46 <dka> Chair: Dan
18:01:02 <dka> zakim, who is here?
18:01:02 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.858.354.aaaa, dka, Domenic__
18:01:03 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, dka, twirl, marcosc, plinss, trackbot, slightlyoff, Domenic__, wycats__, Yves
18:01:06 <plinss> zakim, aaaa is me
18:01:06 <Zakim> +plinss; got it
18:01:46 <Zakim> +TimBL
18:01:50 <Zakim> +Yves
18:01:53 <Zakim> +??P7
18:02:37 <Zakim> +dherman
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18:03:48 <Zakim> +[Google]
18:03:59 <dherman> how do I ask Zakim about my background noise?
18:04:10 <dherman> lemme find it
18:04:15 <slightlyoff> scribe: slightlyoff
18:04:22 <slightlyoff> scribenick: slightlyoff
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18:07:11 <dka> http://url.spec.whatwg.org
18:10:56 <slightlyoff> (can I start minuting yet?)
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18:12:54 <slightlyoff> stand-ups
18:13:15 <slightlyoff> dka: EW Summit: working with folks about invites. Working with Marcos and Annevk
18:13:37 <slightlyoff> have few registrations vs invites, but suspect many more will sign up soon (will send reminder mail)
18:13:48 <slightlyoff> will open up registration next week
18:13:51 <slightlyoff> (proposal)
18:14:12 <slightlyoff> dka: I think Alex and Yehuda...if there are key developers we haven't reached out to that we think should be there, we should
18:14:36 <slightlyoff> Domenic__: ember people have strong opinions
18:14:43 <slightlyoff> dka: send me email addrs, will do the legwork
18:15:00 <slightlyoff> plinss: not a whole lot this week. On way to SxSW
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18:15:45 <slightlyoff> Domenic__: not much either RE: TAG stuff. would like to take up quota-management spec review draft done soon. Also some interests from WebAudio in follow-up
18:16:08 <slightlyoff> dka: does it make sense for an F2F slot for Web Audio?
18:16:18 <dherman> Zakim, mute me
18:16:18 <Zakim> dherman should now be muted
18:16:54 <slightlyoff> slightlyoff: perhaps we can invite them to a call first?
18:17:01 <slightlyoff> dka: can someone who's already talking to them propose that?
18:17:03 <slightlyoff> Domenic__: I can
18:17:14 <slightlyoff> Domenic__: can loop in slightlyoff if he's available
18:17:19 <Zakim> -twirl
18:17:20 <dherman> Zakim, unmute me
18:17:20 <Zakim> dherman should no longer be muted
18:17:37 <slightlyoff> dherman: not so much to report this week...have been focused on other stuff
18:17:41 <Zakim> +??P7
18:18:34 <slightlyoff> slightlyoff: continuing to try to liberate EME/CDM documentation
18:18:39 <slightlyoff> twirl: not much this week.
18:18:50 <slightlyoff> twirl: have been doing a lot of thinking around EME
18:18:55 <dka> zakim, who is here?
18:18:55 <Zakim> On the phone I see plinss, dka, Domenic__, TimBL, Yves, dherman, [Google], twirl
18:18:57 <Zakim> On IRC I see timbl, JeniT, dherman, Zakim, RRSAgent, dka, twirl, marcosc, plinss, trackbot, slightlyoff, Domenic__, wycats__, Yves
18:19:20 <slightlyoff> Yves: not much to report. I've worked a bit on the [???] stuff. Sent an email to www-tag about it
18:19:27 <slightlyoff> Yves: also compression in HTTP/2
18:20:25 <slightlyoff> dka: have been looking at trusted proxy, opportunistic encryption, and compression here (IETF meeting)
18:20:38 <slightlyoff> Domenic__: will send out a post about form-submission/compression
18:20:56 <Domenic__> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-nextweb/2014Mar/0000.html
18:21:33 <slightlyoff> timbl: I've been looking into things related to EME. Glad there are wider discussions, and I'm happy that some of the naiveté has been tempered.
18:22:11 <slightlyoff> timbl: supposing the W3C finds itself producing a recommendation to make a technology which produces things which if you hack you go to jail in some countries...I've been thinking along the lines of a genearl argument:
18:22:25 <slightlyoff> timbl: a.) all technology has a social as well as a technical component
18:22:38 <slightlyoff> timbl: b.) the laws are the laws we have
18:23:32 <slightlyoff> timbl: c.) in some countries, re: DRM, where the laws are an extraordinarily bad fit, should the consortium say "we've got this technology, but it needs a different policy world to live in"
18:23:51 <slightlyoff> e.g., should we block EME until the social conditions around it change?
18:24:12 <slightlyoff> we don't want people to go to jail around this...we don't want to do this until the laws change
18:24:20 <slightlyoff> timbl: want us to think about this
18:24:42 <slightlyoff> dka: this mirrors thigns at the STRINT workshop...the idea that standards are amoral
18:24:53 <slightlyoff> dherman: I strongly disagree with taht argument
18:25:40 <slightlyoff> timbl: I talked with a spammer once...and I'd call them and ask "what are you doing? don't you feel bad?" and we got to discussing things like the forwarded-from header...and he said "that's just a header, you can put what you like in there"
18:25:59 <slightlyoff> timbl: and a lot of people think that, but it would have been nice if someone made a point of saying you MUST about that header
18:26:37 <slightlyoff> timbl: re: DNT, we can't get away from it
18:26:45 <slightlyoff> dka: back to agenda building for F2F
18:26:54 <slightlyoff> dka: my sense is that we want to have stuff to review
18:27:24 <slightlyoff> dka: we should be producing things and we should start thinking about documetns we're working on are reviewed and published at f2f's
18:27:37 <slightlyoff> dka: thinking about things like the promises guidelines and some of the other reviews that we're doing
18:27:44 <slightlyoff> dka: we shoudl be trying to backstop that stuff at the f2f's
18:27:52 <slightlyoff> dka: and we should be thinking about that as a goal
18:27:54 <slightlyoff> (I agree)
18:28:00 <twirl> +1
18:28:03 <slightlyoff> +1
18:28:23 <twirl> Is there any urgent stuff?
18:28:25 <slightlyoff> (discussion about waiting for f2f...high bandwidth...etc.)
18:28:40 <slightlyoff> dka: re twirl: any more urgent stuff?
18:28:45 <slightlyoff> logistics? we ok there?
18:29:00 <slightlyoff> if you have questions, email dave
18:29:03 <twirl> I mean are there reviews which we need to do urgently
18:29:40 <Domenic__> there are a few chrome has intent to ship, i have tried to prioritize those
18:29:40 <Zakim> -dherman
18:29:41 <Zakim> -twirl
18:29:41 <Zakim> -[Google]
18:29:46 <Zakim> -Yves
18:29:48 <Zakim> -plinss
18:29:50 <slightlyoff> twirl: web audio, Shadow DOM, and Streams
18:29:53 <Zakim> -dka
18:29:55 <Zakim> -Domenic__
18:30:01 <Domenic__> and Font Loading
18:30:27 <twirl> slightlyoff: did webaudio make a new revision?
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18:37:29 <dka> rrsagent, make minutes public
18:37:29 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public', dka.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
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19:05:24 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.858.354.aaaa, dka, Domenic__, plinss, TimBL, Yves, twirl, dherman, [Google]
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