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13:24:44 <trackbot> Meeting: Education and Outreach Working Group Teleconference
13:24:44 <trackbot> Date: 28 February 2014
13:24:56 <Sharron> Chair: Shawn
13:25:02 <Sharron> Scribe: Sharron
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13:27:42 <Sharron> Regrets: Sylvie, Jan, Vicki (maybe Andrew, Anthony) [No response: Wayne, Helle, Suzette, Denis, Shadi]
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13:30:17 <yatil> ezakim, call EricE-Skype
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13:34:18 <shawn> zakim, who is on the phone?
13:34:18 <Zakim> On the phone I see Shawn, Sharron, AnnaBelle, Bim (muted), EricE (muted)
13:34:35 <shadi> zakim, call shadi-617
13:34:35 <Zakim> ok, shadi; the call is being made
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13:36:17 <Sharron> Topic: WCAG-EM Review
13:36:19 <shawn> https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/WCAG-EM_review
13:36:27 <Sharron> Shawn: Deadline is today
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13:37:11 <Sharron> ...let's look. Thanks Eric and Vicki, Shawn, Bim for commenting and AnnaBelle for noting she needed to abstain.
13:38:21 <Howard> I did review the some of the comments
13:38:45 <Sharron> Shawn: As we go throguh these, can someone put notes in the wiki as we go through these?
13:38:59 <Sharron> AnnaBelle: I am willing to try, may need some help.
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13:41:35 <yatil> ack me
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13:43:10 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#context-changedef
13:43:21 <shadi> changes of context
13:43:40 <Sharron> Shawn: First one is from Sylvie, not sure that we can resolve.
13:43:49 <Sharron> Shadi: Not sure what is the intent of the comment
13:44:26 <Sharron> Sharron: I think it is the fact that it is vague and soemwhat unlcear as to the intention. The technical definition may be too broad.
13:44:57 <Sharron> ...the fact that Eric suggested a drop down menu as an example indicates that.
13:45:08 <Sharron> Shadi: Refer to change of context.
13:46:18 <Sharron> Shawn: Great, next point is the need to link tot he terminology, there was agreement about that.
13:47:10 <Sharron> Shawn: Next comment was about "supercede." All subsequent comments were to leave this as is with no submission of a comment from EO
13:47:33 <Sharron> AnnaBelle: updates wiki
13:47:53 <Sharron> s/tot he/to the
13:49:11 <Sharron> Shawn: Next points are about clarity on different types of web sites. First is clarity of wording and second point is a comment on the content - end to end testing of apps.
13:50:17 <Sharron> Shadi: To expect that you must evaluate every single possibility within a web process is unrealistic. The process of end-to-end testing is covered elsewhere in any case.
13:51:00 <yatil> +1 for words
13:51:17 <Sharron> Shawn: That addresses the content suggestion, about the wording, I suggested a rewrite [reads] any concerns with that?
13:51:22 <Sharron> All: none
13:51:34 <Sharron> AnnaBelle: updates wiki
13:52:39 <Sharron> Shawn: In step 2C there is a question from Anthony about whether this is redundant, is it covered elsewhere. Comments were that no, it was not covered elsewhere.
13:55:18 <shawn> Sharron: parenthesis in middle of phrase is a little jarring
13:57:06 <Howard> zakim, ack me
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13:57:07 <Zakim> I see no one on the speaker queue
13:57:13 <Bim> +1 to moving the link
13:57:57 <Sharron> ...next in step 2D . Anthony had some lack of clarity/understanding.
13:58:07 <Sharron> Sharron: The parenthetical phrase is a bit unsettling
13:58:33 <Sharron> Howard: Without the parenteses it will need to be reworded...
13:59:19 <Sharron> Shadi: I think I have the idea, don't need to wordsmaith entirely.
13:59:26 <Howard> zakim, mute me
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14:00:18 <Sharron> Shawn: To summarize our comment would be to remove parentheses, delete phrase "to provide the web site" and consider moving WCAG link to first sentence.
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14:06:00 <Sharron> zakim, aaaa is Wayne
14:06:00 <Zakim> +Wayne; got it
14:06:13 <shawn> The purpose of this selection is to ensure that the evaluation results reflect the accessibility performance of the website with reasonable confidence. -> The purpose of this selection is to ensure reasonable confidence that the evaluation results reflect the accessibility performance of the website.
14:06:23 <shawn> The purpose of this selection is to ensure that the evaluation results reflect the accessibility performance of the website with reasonable confidence. -> The purpose of this selection is to provide reasonable confidence that the evaluation results reflect the accessibility performance of the website.
14:07:03 <Bim> +1 to Shawn's wording
14:07:35 <shawn> In cases where it is feasible to evaluate all web pages, this sampling procedure can be skipped and the selected sample is considered to be the entire website in the remaining steps of the conformance evaluation procedure.
14:08:09 <Sharron> Shawn: This needs simplification
14:08:51 <Sharron> ..."You can skip the sampling procedure and the selected sample is the entire website
14:09:43 <Sharron> Bim: ...and treat the entire web site as the selected sample
14:09:46 <Bim> treat the entire web site as the selected sample
14:09:52 <shawn> In cases where it is feasible to evaluate all web pages, you can skip this sampling procedure, then the "selected sample" in the emaining steps of the conformance evaluation procedure is the entire website.
14:12:48 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG-EM/#step2e
14:13:16 <shadi>     Web pages explaining accessibility features of the websites;
14:13:16 <shadi>     Web pages with information and help on the use of the website;
14:13:16 <shadi>     Web pages explaining settings, preferences, options, shortcuts, etc.;
14:13:16 <shadi>     Web pages with contact information, directions, and support instructions.
14:14:12 <yatil> ack me
14:15:16 <shawn> q+ to strengthen
14:15:19 <Sharron> Shawn: Next one is in Step 3,
14:15:28 <shawn> ack me
14:15:28 <Zakim> shawn, you wanted to strengthen
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14:16:38 <Sharron> Shawn: We like the quiet links in general, but if there is a case where the dependency is important to understand the current content, maybe there is a stronger way to indicate that.
14:17:59 <Sharron> Shawn: Maybe our comment is something about the places where the importance of dependency is high that there is strong indcation of that.
14:18:09 <Sharron> Shadi" Consider making those dependencies more clear
14:18:42 <Sharron> s/Shadi"/Shadi:
14:19:21 <Sharron> Shadi: ..and consider reducing such dependencies where possible
14:20:15 <Sharron> Wayne: This is not an easy document and I don't see how to do this without dependencies. Some times in a complex document like this, there is a dependency graph or chart.
14:20:29 <Sharron> Shadi: We do try to make that clear in the beginning
14:23:34 <yatil> ack me
14:23:59 <shawn> zakim, mute me
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14:25:27 <shawn> zakim, unmute me
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14:26:05 <Sharron> Eric: This section is hard to read, if instead of this complex structure, could we sayI wonder if many of those steps could just be summarized with "Include all web pages (and web page states) that were identified in Step 2.a-e."?
14:27:03 <Sharron> Shadi: This is related to simplifying the dependencies and identifying the links. The brackets of parentheses or quotations to set those off.
14:28:04 <shawn> "Include all common web pages and web page states that were identified in Step 2.a: Identify Common Web Pages of the Website into the selected sample for evaluation." -> "Include into the selected sample for evaluation all common web pages and web page states that were identified in Step 2.a: Identify Common Web Pages of the Website."
14:28:32 <shawn> "Include all common web pages and web page states that were identified in Step 2.a: Identify Common Web Pages of the Website into the selected sample for evaluation." -> "Include in the selected sample all common web pages and web page states that were identified in Step 2.a: Identify Common Web Pages of the Website."
14:29:05 <Sharron> ...could be grammatically improved. So there may be three parts: 1) avoid dependencies 2) the grammatical tendency to remove the dangling ends of sentences and 3) in the places where we need to reference another section do we need parenthese or brackets?
14:29:21 <shawn>  ^^^ comment ^^^
14:30:35 <yatil> zakim, mute me
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14:30:58 <Sharron> Sharron: I thought we had decided last week that #3 was not specific to this document?
14:31:28 <Sharron> Shawn: Yes we decided that it was more of a User Agent issue
14:31:46 <Sharron> Shadi: So we should try not to ...
14:31:58 <Sharron> Shawn: have them in the middle of a sentence
14:33:02 <Sharron> ...Suzette has pointed out that links in the middle of a sentence are very distracting and sometimse hard to understand. So we have tried when possible to put links at the end of sentences
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14:34:31 <yatil> zakim, call EricE-Skype
14:34:31 <Zakim> ok, yatil; the call is being made
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14:35:07 <Sharron> Shawn: We are skipping the next as Eric said there is not much we can do...next is Purpose of this Methodology, second sentence.
14:37:15 <yatil> 7me lol
14:37:24 <yatil> s/7me lol//
14:37:58 <Sharron> Paul: Reads Vicki's comment, ending with the suggestion "Periodic evaluation is necessary for monitoring the accessibility performance of websites over time".
14:38:05 <shawn> zakim, who si making noise?
14:38:05 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, shawn.
14:38:39 <shawn> zakim, who is making noise?
14:38:53 <Zakim> shawn, listening for 14 seconds I heard sound from the following: Shawn (96%), Sharron (3%), PaulSchantz (6%), Shadi (3%), EricE (17%)
14:39:13 <yatil> zakim, nick yatil is EricE
14:39:13 <Zakim> ok, yatil, I now associate you with EricE
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14:39:26 <Sharron> Sharron: +1 to Vicki's suggestion
14:40:06 <Sharron> Shadi: prefer important to necessary since it was used in sentence before
14:41:10 <Sharron> Paul: Reads next comment: "Web accessibility monitoring activities who want to benchmark or compare the accessibility conformance over time." Howard suggests replacing with "Web accessibility monitoring *entities* who want to benchmark...
14:41:41 <shadi> [[Web accessibility monitoring activities who want to benchmark or compare the accessibility conformance over time.]]
14:42:07 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG-EM/#purpose
14:42:08 <Sharron> Sharron: Could you say "web accessibility monitors..." and leave off activities or entitities
14:43:10 <AnnaBelle> +1 to Shawn it needs to be a person noun to be parallel
14:43:25 <Sharron> Shawn: Or evaluators?
14:44:09 <Sharron> Wayne: yes that's fine
14:44:20 <shawn> Web accessibility evaluators who want to benchmark or compare the accessibility conformance over time.
14:44:40 <shawn> Web accessibility monitors\ who want to benchmark or compare the accessibility conformance over time.
14:44:54 <Sharron> Shadi: we were thinking of the need to keep it general - you could monitoring your own site over time and there are also monitors of many web sites (like UN survey) etc
14:48:55 <Sharron> Shadi: This is a controversial subject, the scoring aspect. So even though it is course and not necessarily precisely accurate, it does show progress over time. Others take a different position. We will meet with WCAG-WC on Tuesday morning and if EO wants to send representation, you are welcome to join.
14:49:24 <Sharron> Wayne: So what is the basis to consider the scoring has meaning, validity?
14:49:52 <Sharron> Shawn: Have to call tangent on this.
14:50:19 <Sharron> Shadi: EO was gentle this time...what did you see this round?
14:50:28 <Sharron> Shawn: It is much better.
14:50:50 <Sharron> Sharron: I agree, the document is better.
14:51:52 <Zakim> -AnnaBelle
14:52:18 <Zakim> +AnnaBelle
14:53:03 <Sharron> Shawn: The issue for documents like this is to balance the technical aspects with clarity of language. Are we at this point now? That we have confidence in the technical and formal aspects and take a pass for readability?
14:53:27 <Sharron> Shadi: Yes, this is what we have expected all along. If there are those kinds of pointers, I am looking for that from EO
14:54:04 <Sharron> ...and pople can send their own comments without EO consensus.
14:54:14 <Howard> zakim, ack me
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14:54:14 <Sharron> Sharron: But today is the deadline.
14:54:15 <Zakim> I see no one on the speaker queue
14:54:37 <Howard> http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG-EM/#step2d
14:54:46 <Sharron> Howard: There was one thing that looks to me like a glaring mistake.
14:55:18 <Sharron> ...it says methodology requirement in a way different form all others
14:55:26 <Howard> zakim, mute me
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14:55:41 <Sharron> Shawn: It's a typo, good catch put it into that wiki section
14:55:50 <Sharron> Topic: Easy Checks updates
14:56:34 <shawn> https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Easy_Checks#Overall
14:57:39 <Sharron> Shawn: Thanks to Sylvie and Vicki and to AnnaBelle who looked at Easy Checks open issues
14:59:09 <shadi> zakim, mute me
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14:59:45 <Sharron> Shawn: First is the instructions for Windows/Mac...suggestions are there.
15:00:04 <Sharron> Sharron: My preference was not strong
15:00:15 <Howard> I like parens
15:00:31 <Howard> 1 or 2
15:00:43 <Sharron> Shawn: Editor's discretion for 1 or 2?
15:00:50 <Sharron> All: Yes
15:01:34 <Sharron> AnnaBelle: It is important to me that the C is capitalized in Cmd
15:02:13 <Sharron> Eric: Use the command symbol
15:02:16 <shawn> command
15:02:22 <Sharron> Shawn: Doesn't work with the screen reader
15:02:32 <yatil> ack me
15:02:35 <paulschantz> Unicode for the command symbol is &#8984;
15:03:00 <yatil> zakim, mute me
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15:03:11 <yatil> <abbr title="command">⌘</abbr>
15:03:20 <yatil> ;-)
15:04:11 <shawn> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/eval/checks#using
15:04:12 <Sharron> Shawn: Next is the order of using the subsections
15:04:55 <Sharron> ...currently we have Tools, WCAG, practicing with BAD etc...what order should these be in? Different suggestions are posted
15:05:05 <shawn> https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Easy_Checks#other
15:05:37 <Wayne> to Shawn, this might help with Apple names: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1343
15:06:41 <Sharron> Paul: Reads two suggestions for reordering the sub-sections
15:06:56 <shawn> zakim, who is on the phone?
15:06:56 <Zakim> On the phone I see Shawn, Sharron, Bim (muted), EricE (muted), Shadi (muted), Howard (muted), PaulSchantz, Wayne, AnnaBelle
15:07:02 <Sharron> Sharron: I like Vivki's suggestion
15:07:11 <yatil> +1 for Vicki’s suggestion
15:07:19 <Wayne> +1
15:07:20 <Bim> ac k me
15:07:25 <shawn> ack bim
15:07:25 <AnnaBelle> +1 vor Vicki's suggestion
15:07:27 <Bim> +1
15:07:37 <paulschantz> +1 Vicki
15:07:45 <Howard> +1 vicki
15:08:15 <Bim> zakim, mute me
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15:08:23 <Sharron> Shawn: We need to have (optional) with the tools in response to public comments
15:09:41 <shawn> https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Easy_Checks#Basic_Structure_Check
15:09:57 <Sharron> Shawn: and looking now at basic structure...
15:10:03 <shawn> http://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/Drafts/eval/checks#limgs Images showing linearized and changed display (click to show images)
15:11:08 <Howard> New version is much better
15:12:40 <Sharron> Shawn: This is a stacked redo of this illustration. Take a look, weigh in about the display - stacked vs not stacked, and should we collapse it?
15:12:57 <Sharron> Annabelle: I like the stacking much better than the table grid
15:13:07 <paulschantz> looks great
15:13:11 <Sharron> Sharron: +1 to stacked, collapsed by default
15:13:16 <yatil> like it
15:13:23 <Howard> much prefer the stacking
15:13:46 <Bim> +1 to collapse by default
15:13:53 <Sharron> Wayne: One of the first examples I have been able to read without modification.
15:14:08 <Sharron> AnnaBelle: That's awesome Wayne!
15:14:19 <Sharron> Wayne: I ahve been away a long time and I love these examples
15:14:30 <Sharron> s/ahve/have
15:16:03 <Sharron> Shawn: Where we are with EasyChecks: There are 1 or 2 wording questions from Eric's comments, and other than that I think the comments are all addressed. Remaining things are illustrations. Bottom line with that is for participants to stay in touch. There are a couple of options.:
15:16:39 <Sharron> ...we have published it as a Working Group draft. We had intended to publish a version that is not called a draft by CSUN.
15:17:11 <Sharron> ...option 1 is to work hard, finish illustrations and give everyone a short time to approve and publish it as a version beyond draft by CSUN
15:17:32 <Sharron> ...option 2 is to update what is there and change it to Editor's Draft
15:17:50 <Sharron> Sharron: What is the difference between Editor's Draft and WG Draft?
15:17:58 <Sharron> Shawn: For most of the world, not much
15:18:10 <shawn> the "published" http://www.w3.org/WAI/eval/preliminary.html
15:18:23 <Sharron> AnnaBelle: I really want to finish the illustrations and add to the Published version for CSUN
15:19:02 <shawn> 1. Editor's Draft
15:19:07 <shawn> 2. Working Draft
15:19:11 <Sharron> Shawn: We could move the illustrations into the published draft and chang ethe title to Editor's Draft. If we get EOWG to approve it, it would no longer be a draft at all.
15:19:15 <shawn> 3. done w/o Draft
15:20:08 <shawn> Sharron: do usability testing before call it done w/o Draft
15:20:23 <Howard> zakim, ack me
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15:20:24 <Zakim> I see no one on the speaker queue
15:20:31 <shawn> +1
15:21:07 <Sharron> Sharron: I would suggest we get to the Edotor's draft stage for sure, and wonder if the usability testing at CSUN might inform our final version.
15:21:10 <paulschantz> I like Sharron's idea
15:21:37 <Sharron> AnnaBelle: But we could still change after the usability testing, whether called a draft or not.
15:21:53 <Sharron> Howard: I would not want to publish with the @@ still in there
15:21:58 <Sharron> Shawn: Yes absolutely
15:22:12 <Sharron> Hoard: So what is the advantage for it being a non-draft by CSUN?
15:22:22 <Sharron> Shawn: That is what we need to decide.
15:22:25 <shadi> q+
15:22:30 <shawn> ack s
15:22:40 <shadi> ack me
15:22:41 <Sharron> Sharron: I am happy to have a very polished draft and do usability testing with that
15:22:52 <AnnaBelle> q+
15:23:21 <shawn> it says: "This is a Working Draft approved by the Education and Outreach Working Group (EOWG). Please send any suggestions, edits, or comments to the publicly-archived list: wai-eo-editors@w3.org
15:23:22 <shawn>  Status on 20 December 2013: Most of the text content is complete. We are now working on the illustrations, which we plan to finish in early 2014."
15:23:24 <Sharron> Shadi: I think if it is ready for use, we should reflect that in our title, we do not want to send mixed messages.
15:24:00 <Sharron> ...want to be conssitent in our references to document stages and be clear about whether it is ready or not ready for public use
15:24:43 <shawn> ack a
15:25:23 <Bim> q+
15:25:32 <Howard> zakim, ack me
15:25:32 <Zakim> I see Bim on the speaker queue
15:25:38 <Howard> zakim, mute me
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15:26:02 <shawn> ack b
15:26:35 <Sharron> AnnaBelle: I do think that rather than the usability test the issue of whether to move the document out of Draft staus, is the question of whether the entire group is happy with the illustrations. If we can move the illustrations to the published version, once the group as a whole is happy with it, it should no longer be a draft.
15:26:36 <shawn> q+ to reply to Bim
15:27:13 <Sharron> Bim: And the draft status itself may be a distractin. We want people to use it and give feedback without thinking they need to make suggestions for improvement.
15:27:21 <shawn> ack me
15:27:21 <Zakim> shawn, you wanted to reply to Bim
15:27:39 <Bim> zakim, mute me
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15:28:12 <Sharron> Shawn: I am glad you brought up that point is that if you want people to provide constructive feedback they provide that more readily if they think it is not done.
15:28:32 <Bim> ok, glad to bow to your greater experience
15:29:08 <Sharron> Shadi: I don't understand where we are. The content is complete, we are only working on illustrations but we want to do usability testing? Is it ready or not?
15:29:32 <Sharron> Shawn: Yes we want people to use it and we have announced that we want them to use it.
15:29:41 <Sharron> Shadi: Why is it a draft?
15:29:41 <shadi> zakim, mute me
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15:29:54 <Sharron> Shawn: There are still items unresolved
15:30:08 <Sharron> Wayne: We are not going to CSUN iwht @@s are we?
15:30:21 <Sharron> Shawn: Hope not, want to help?
15:30:25 <Howard> yes
15:30:25 <Sharron> Wayne: OK.
15:30:47 <Sharron> Shawn: Ther eis a link to illustrations inventory.
15:31:21 <Sharron> Sharron: I'll put ATAG outreach on Actions for all
15:31:40 <Sharron> Shawn: need to find a place for brunch on Sunday at CSUN
15:31:59 <Sharron> ...next week look at Images Tutorial, that is a to-do for EVERYONE
15:32:13 <Sharron> ...and thing more about ARIA-Overview and Easy Chacks.
15:32:18 <yatil> ack me
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15:32:26 <Howard> bye everyone
15:32:27 <yatil> zakim, drop me
15:32:27 <Zakim> EricE is being disconnected
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15:32:30 <Sharron> s/thing/think
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15:32:39 <Sharron> trackbot, end meeting
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