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<trackbot> Date: 14 February 2014
<scribe> scribe: Alan
<scribe> chair: kathy
alan: chatting about snow storm
<Kathy> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/Draft_User_Survey_Questions
kathy: combined survey questions on every wiki page with link
<Kathy> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/Draft_User_Survey_Questions
<Kathy> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/66524/20140208_survey/results
Kathy: incorportated kim with
mobile and desktop devices as well
... thoughts on phone models
Android, windows, ios, blackberry, nokia, firefox os
basic phones as well
Jan added link
commet about question 1
Comment on 1.5 and 1.6 what to use phone and most and least?
jeanne: added calendar, travel
Jan: add news
Alan: maps and Jan agreed
Kathleen: weather
Jeanne: travel
Jan: flashlight
David: sports, recording heart rate, miles run, etc.
Jan: camera,
Jeanne: credit card use
Kathleen: loyalty cards: keyring
Jan: alarms and timing
Alan: magnifyer
?? color picker
Jan: os version suggestion, start with question basic device, table/smartphone, if either split out I don't know as choice
Jan not David above
Change to when do you do an update on the OS. Change language.
David: agrees to when do you do updates....
Kathy: to add several times a day, to get an idea how frequently they are using that device
Jan: agree on more granularity, work versus personal,
Alan: may find many people do not work or in the work force with devices
Jan: we could have personal, work, school
Kathy: not sure if she had them all, any to add?
Jeanne: add camera as
setting
... do we want to put AT applications here?
Kathy: not sure if we should seperate apps/settings. Will users think as different/or same?
Jan: repetitions are hard for
data analysis later
... another question is outside devices? here are elsewhere,
Kathy to check
Kathy: could add about what external devices
Jan: agree
<Jan_> external keyboard, mouse, Braille display, ability switch...
Kathy: question on how often do
you use accessibility features. Karen suggested how often for
each.
... what do we want to get from this survey? do we need to know
how often..
Jan: main thing is people say they are using them.
Kathy: change options in 8? Jan just drop. don't overload the user with questions.
David: agree that how often they use it will affect our guidence
Kathy: explained value
... leaning on gettin rid of question
Jeanne: side topic. what is clear
idea of what purpose of survey. Need it to be clear and privacy
statement. What are we going to do with data gathered.
... make agenda topic for next week.
Kathy: purpose of survey to gather info about how people are using mobile, what they are doing, other devices to understand what challenges they are facing.
Jeanne: are the results of the survey going to drive our recommendations?
Kathy: agree
... yes, add as agenda for next week/
<jeanne> and how public will the results be -- like being able to be used for other research studies?
<scribe> ACTION: Kathy to add agenda item for survey purpose [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/14-mobile-a11y-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-13 - Add agenda item for survey purpose [on Kathleen Wahlbin - due 2014-02-21].
Jan: value of knowing what mobile users are doing on their devices
Kathy: challenges of using data from survey statistics
Kathleen: other issue is what
mobile devices and apps have you tried to do and why
... value in gettin more info on phones and applications that
you tried
Kathy: eveyone interested in getting survey data for personas, will we use this for more than that?
Jan: value in this, agree
Kathy: Jan and Kathleen, do you want to write up question on this?
Jan: yes
Kathleen: yes
<Zakim> jeanne, you wanted to briefly discuss purpose, goals of survey
<scribe> ACTION: Jan, add questions [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/14-mobile-a11y-minutes.html#action02]
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<scribe> ACTION: Katleen, add questions [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/14-mobile-a11y-minutes.html#action03]
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<Kathleen> Jan_ mine is kathleen.anderson@spiderwebwoman.com
Kathy: Karen's comments reviewed.
<scribe> ACTION: Kathleen, add questions [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/14-mobile-a11y-minutes.html#action04]
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<Kathy> Do you prefer to use a smartphone to access content via the web or download a native app via an app store?
Jeanne: likes Karens comments
Jan: agrees
Kathy: take out native apps
... any preference on survey tool
Alan: will make part of next week's topic
<scribe> ACTION: Kathy to what survey tool [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/14-mobile-a11y-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-14 - What survey tool [on Kathleen Wahlbin - due 2014-02-21].
Jan: there are some android phones with slide out keyboards
Kathy: do have iPhone with same, add on item
Jan: have you replaced your built in keyboard on Android. Lots of others on the market.
Kathy: on Karen's comments
Jan: agree
Kathy: Karen;s comment: #2: I believe there are guidelines to follow in asking about gender to allow for a neutral option, I don't know the exact wording that is preferred
Alan: discussion with team on male/female versus other options.
Kathleen: gender is not relevant.
MichaelC: to usage, but maybe not for our purposes
Kathy: does help with
personas
... lets take out gender
... add more age groups
Jan: agree
Michael: feel draft survey to be run by someone who knows survey design.
Michae: W3C does have folks
Kathleen: concern for children
protection act and age of survey participants
... to add question
Kathy: next week move into the understanding document.
s/Kathleen: to add question./Kathy: to add question
Alan: meeting over at 11:04
How do I end scribbing?
Thanks everyone for you help with some editing as we went along
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