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14:26:40 <sharper_> zakim, please clear the agenda
14:26:40 <Zakim> agenda cleared
14:26:41 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
14:26:43 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7394
14:26:43 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_RDWG()9:30AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
14:26:44 <trackbot> Meeting: Research and Development Working Group Teleconference
14:26:44 <trackbot> Date: 05 February 2014
14:26:55 <sharper_> hair: Harper_Simon
14:26:56 <sharper_> Agenda+ Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments) [sharper]
14:26:57 <sharper_> Agenda+ Issues and Actions  http://goo.gl/Z7XY3Y [sharper]
14:26:59 <sharper_> Agenda+ https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/43 [sharper]
14:27:00 <sharper_> Agenda+ https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/42 [yehya]
14:27:02 <sharper_> Agenda+ https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/44 [sharper]
14:27:03 <sharper_> Agenda+ https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/46 [david]
14:27:05 <sharper_> Agenda+ https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/47 [shadi]
14:27:06 <sharper_> Agenda+ https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/51 [klaus]
14:27:08 <sharper_> Agenda+ https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/52 [klaus]
14:27:09 <sharper_> Agenda+ https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/53 [markku]
14:27:11 <sharper_> Agenda+ New Topic [mark]
14:27:12 <sharper_> Agenda+ E-Learning Symposium Status http://goo.gl/bbjL92 [justin silvia]
14:27:13 <sharper_> Agenda+ STANDING  - Next Symposium Topic [sharper]
14:27:14 <sharper_> Agenda+ STANDING  - Next Catalogue Topic [sharper]
14:27:15 <sharper_> Agenda+ STANDING - Any Other Business [sharper]
14:27:20 <sharper_> zakim, save agenda
14:27:27 <Zakim> ok, sharper_, the agenda has been written to http://www.w3.org/2014/02/05-rd-agenda.rdf
14:27:30 <sharper_> zakim, take up item 1
14:27:30 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments)" taken up [from sharper via sharper_]
14:28:47 <sharper_> regrets: David, Silvia, Yehya, Mark, Giorgio, Yeliz
14:28:56 <sharper_> rrsagent, make logs public
14:28:56 <sharper_> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:28:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/02/05-rd-minutes.html sharper_
14:30:49 <Zakim> WAI_RDWG()9:30AM has now started
14:30:56 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:31:15 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
14:31:17 <annika> annika has joined #rd
14:31:23 <Justin> Justin has joined #rd
14:31:42 <Zakim> +??P24
14:31:50 <sharper_> zakim, ??P24 is sharper
14:31:50 <Zakim> +sharper; got it
14:32:00 <Vivienne> zakim, IPcaller isme
14:32:00 <Zakim> I don't understand 'IPcaller isme', Vivienne
14:32:07 <Vivienne> zakim, IPcaller is me
14:32:07 <Zakim> +Vivienne; got it
14:32:12 <Zakim> +??P25
14:32:28 <annika> zakim, ??P25 is me
14:32:28 <Zakim> +annika; got it
14:32:51 <sharper_> zakim, close item 1
14:32:51 <Zakim> agendum 1, Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments), closed
14:32:51 <sharper_> zakim, take up item 2
14:32:53 <Zakim> I see 14 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:32:53 <Zakim> 2. Issues and Actions  http://goo.gl/Z7XY3Y [from sharper via sharper_]
14:32:53 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Issues and Actions  http://goo.gl/Z7XY3Y" taken up [from sharper via sharper_]
14:33:05 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:33:11 <Justin> zakim, IPcaller.a is me
14:33:11 <Zakim> +Justin; got it
14:33:13 <shadi> zakim, ipcaller is me
14:33:13 <Zakim> +shadi; got it
14:33:15 <sharper_> <http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/scribes>
14:33:27 <shadi> zakim, who is on the phone?
14:33:27 <Zakim> On the phone I see Vivienne, Justin, sharper, annika, shadi
14:34:35 <sharper_> <http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Weekly_Call_Scribing>
14:35:25 <markel> markel has joined #rd
14:35:25 <sharper_> zakim, close item 2
14:35:26 <sharper_> zakim, take up item 3
14:35:26 <Zakim> agendum 2, Issues and Actions  http://goo.gl/Z7XY3Y, closed
14:35:27 <Zakim> I see 13 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:35:27 <Zakim> 3. https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/43 [from sharper via sharper_]
14:35:27 <Zakim> agendum 3. "https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/43" taken up [from sharper via sharper_]
14:35:34 <Zakim> +??P11
14:35:38 <sharper_> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Weekly_Call_Scribing
14:35:56 <annika> zakim, mute me
14:35:56 <Zakim> annika should now be muted
14:36:16 <markel> zakim, ??P11 is markel
14:36:16 <Zakim> +markel; got it
14:37:42 <Justin> zakim, close item 3
14:37:42 <Zakim> agendum 3, https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/43, closed
14:37:44 <Zakim> I see 12 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:37:44 <Zakim> 4. https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/42 [from yehya via sharper_]
14:37:48 <Justin> zakim, take up item 4
14:37:48 <Zakim> agendum 4. "https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/42" taken up [from yehya via sharper_]
14:38:01 <sharper_> Yehya says via email: we are progressing with the work on the new editor
14:38:01 <sharper_> draft
14:38:23 <Justin> sharper: editor drafts progressing
14:38:36 <Justin> zakim, close item 4
14:38:36 <Zakim> agendum 4, https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/42, closed
14:38:37 <Zakim> I see 11 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:38:37 <Zakim> 5. https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/44 [from sharper via sharper_]
14:38:41 <Justin> zakim, take up item 5
14:38:41 <Zakim> agendum 5. "https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/44" taken up [from sharper via sharper_]
14:39:11 <Justin> sharper: item 44 - sim,on is woprking on it once html conversion done
14:39:22 <Justin> zakim, close item 5
14:39:22 <Zakim> agendum 5, https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/44, closed
14:39:23 <Zakim> I see 10 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:39:23 <Zakim> 6. https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/46 [from david via sharper_]
14:39:28 <Justin> zakim, take up item 6
14:39:28 <Zakim> agendum 6. "https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/46" taken up [from david via sharper_]
14:39:44 <Justin> sharper: david has given no report on this item, will catch him next time
14:39:50 <Justin> zakim, close item 6
14:39:50 <Zakim> agendum 6, https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/46, closed
14:39:52 <Zakim> I see 9 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:39:52 <Zakim> 7. https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/47 [from shadi via sharper_]
14:40:00 <Justin> zakim, take up item 7
14:40:00 <Zakim> agendum 7. "https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/47" taken up [from shadi via sharper_]
14:40:16 <Justin> sharper: where are we up to on the metrics report
14:40:27 <Justin> shadi: working on it - not ready yet
14:40:41 <sharper_> zakim, agenda?
14:40:41 <Zakim> I see 9 items remaining on the agenda:
14:40:42 <Zakim> 7. https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/47 [from shadi via sharper_]
14:40:42 <Zakim> 8. https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/51 [from klaus via sharper_]
14:40:42 <Zakim> 9. https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/52 [from klaus via sharper_]
14:40:42 <Zakim> 10. https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/53 [from markku via sharper_]
14:40:43 <Zakim> 11. New Topic [from mark via sharper_]
14:40:43 <Zakim> 12. E-Learning Symposium Status http://goo.gl/bbjL92 [from justin silvia via sharper_]
14:40:44 <Zakim> 13. STANDING  - Next Symposium Topic [from sharper via sharper_]
14:40:44 <Zakim> 14. STANDING  - Next Catalogue Topic [from sharper via sharper_]
14:40:44 <Zakim> 15. STANDING - Any Other Business [from sharper via sharper_]
14:40:49 <Justin> zakim, close item 7
14:40:49 <Zakim> agendum 7, https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/47, closed
14:40:51 <Zakim> I see 8 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:40:51 <Zakim> 8. https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/51 [from klaus via sharper_]
14:41:36 <Justin> zakim, take up item 12
14:41:36 <Zakim> agendum 12. "E-Learning Symposium Status http://goo.gl/bbjL92" taken up [from justin silvia via sharper_]
14:42:20 <sharper_> Justin: have put together the html version of the call and transcripts.
14:42:52 <sharper_> Justin: Not now needs working on - not going to be done in the next few weeks.
14:44:31 <sharper_> Action: justin to write up E-Learning Symposium draft within 2 months
14:44:32 <trackbot> Created ACTION-54 - Write up e-learning symposium draft within 2 months [on Justin Brown - due 2014-02-12].
14:44:57 <shadi> q+
14:45:17 <sharper_> ack shad
14:45:23 <shadi> ack me
14:46:05 <Justin> shadi: what is the status of viviennes catalog item
14:46:43 <Justin> sharper: working on it - depending on the coversion to html - any more questions ?  going to give a breakdown on the user agents user group
14:47:16 <Justin> shadi: we could look a little bit more at using html directly into the wiki - could look at that for future catalog items
14:47:26 <Justin> sharper: agrees - looks nice
14:47:55 <Zakim> +??P26
14:48:01 <Justin> sharper: are wiki things that are alwats updated rather than being a static site (permalinked(
14:48:09 <klaus> klaus has joined #rd
14:49:08 <Justin> shadi: they use it a lot for commenting and drafting work - i am not sure how they draft the html and drop it into the final resource - they are using html code inside the wiki editor - quite handy - they are not using wiki markup but rather html marking, making it easier to extract
14:50:03 <Justin> sharper: thats sounds pretty - is there some way of getting our wiki updated to use these tools
14:50:26 <Justin> shadi: i think our wiki has the same html features - i'll try it on a page now
14:51:10 <shadi> https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/
14:51:16 <Justin> shadi: ok - hello world examples works well
14:51:20 <Justin> sharper: good
14:52:43 <Justin> sharper: in the future people can go to the catalog page directly and create their entry and then we can extract it and place it in the catalog template as html if people are happy to work that way
14:52:57 <Justin> sharper: agrees that it makes the job easier
14:53:43 <Justin> sharper: i just wanted to open to question regarding the user agent accessibility guidelines - overall I think they worked very well
14:54:42 <Justin> sharper: i will send them out to the group
14:55:15 <markel> I haven't
14:55:15 <Justin> sharper: has anyone else looked at the user agent stuff?
14:55:41 <Justin> sharper: i think they are doing a good job
14:55:57 <Justin> sharper: is there anything else we want to discuss today?
14:56:29 <klaus> sorry for beeing so late ... was in a meeting
14:56:44 <Justin> sharper: thank everybody - i will update you about bits and pieces that are going on - i will not be on the call next meeting - can shadi fill in for me
14:56:51 <Justin> shadi: i can next week
14:56:54 <Vivienne> good night all
14:56:55 <markel> bye!
14:56:58 <annika> bye
14:57:01 <markel> markel has left #rd
14:57:02 <klaus> bye
14:57:05 <Zakim> -Vivienne
14:57:07 <Zakim> -annika
14:57:07 <Zakim> -markel
14:57:08 <Zakim> -Justin
14:57:11 <Zakim> -sharper
14:57:11 <Zakim> -??P26
14:57:13 <Zakim> -shadi
14:57:14 <Zakim> WAI_RDWG()9:30AM has ended
14:57:14 <Zakim> Attendees were sharper, Vivienne, annika, Justin, shadi, markel
15:07:44 <shadi> trackbot, end meeting
15:07:44 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
15:07:44 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
15:07:52 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:07:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/02/05-rd-minutes.html trackbot
15:07:53 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
15:07:53 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/05-rd-actions.rdf :
15:07:53 <RRSAgent> ACTION: justin to write up E-Learning Symposium draft within 2 months [1]
15:07:53 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/02/05-rd-irc#T14-44-31