IRC log of mobile-a11y on 2014-01-31

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logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/01/31-mobile-a11y-irc
14:38:02 [trackbot]
RRSAgent, make logs 328
14:38:02 [Zakim]
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Zakim, this will be
14:38:04 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
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Meeting: Mobile Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
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Date: 31 January 2014
14:38:34 [KimPatch]
zakim, this is 6283
14:38:34 [Zakim]
KimPatch, I see WAI_MATF()10:00AM in the schedule but not yet started. Perhaps you mean "this will be 6283".
14:38:46 [KimPatch]
zakim, this will be 6283
14:38:46 [Zakim]
ok, KimPatch; I see WAI_MATF()10:00AM scheduled to start in 22 minutes
14:39:08 [wuwei]
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chair: Kimberly_Patch
14:40:36 [KimPatch]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mobile-a11y-tf/2014Jan/0009.html
14:41:14 [KimPatch]
agenda?
14:41:35 [KimPatch]
agenda+ Mobile Accessibility Techniques
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agenda+ Next Steps
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agenda?
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14:53:07 [Zakim]
WAI_MATF()10:00AM has now started
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+Kim_Patch
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14:59:10 [Kathleen]
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+Kathleen
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+Alan_Smith
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+[IPcaller]
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15:01:29 [Jan]
zakim, [IPcaller] is really Jan
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+Jan; got it
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+Jeanne
15:03:22 [jeanne]
scribenick: jeanne
15:04:04 [Zakim]
+EricP
15:04:20 [wuwei]
zakim, EricP is wuwei
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+wuwei; got it
15:04:36 [wuwei]
zakim, mute me
15:04:36 [Zakim]
wuwei should now be muted
15:05:14 [jeanne]
agenda?
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zakim, take up item 1
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agendum 1. "Mobile Accessibility Techniques" taken up [from KimPatch]
15:05:41 [KimPatch]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/mobile-a11y-tf/wiki/Draft_WCAG_Techniques
15:05:42 [jeanne]
KP: Today we are going to walk through the process of evaluating the techniques
15:06:15 [jeanne]
This is #4 in "Work in PRogress" section
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... In the survey, you signed up for one of these sections
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... there are instructions and samples in the "General Techniques" section
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... what you will do is click the Technique list you signed up for
15:07:31 [jeanne]
... you will see the Instructions, and under that is the list of all the Techniques
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... in the General section, Jeanne did the first 3 as a sample
15:08:27 [jeanne]
KP: If Not Applicable, you will edit the list, and paste the code in the box i
15:08:28 [Jan]
q+
15:08:50 [jeanne]
...
15:10:17 [jeanne]
JR: When we are looking at the Techniques, are we seeing these as applying to sites with mobile optimized page.
15:10:38 [jeanne]
... When we are assessing them, what level of mobile optimization should we be thinking?
15:11:17 [jeanne]
KP: We want all levels.
15:12:15 [jeanne]
... change that to a "requires changes" -- [gives instructions for requires changes]
15:13:44 [Jan]
ack Jan
15:14:13 [jeanne]
Alan: It's important to consider all kinds of mobile devices
15:14:15 [Jan]
Instructions ok
15:16:26 [jeanne]
Kathleen: I don't know what you mean by the [[ ]] and don't include the colon
15:16:59 [jeanne]
JS: we are trying to create a list where we can all see what needs to be worked on.
15:17:22 [jeanne]
... and then create a new page for a Technique that needs more work
15:19:45 [jeanne]
Topic: How wide to we cast the net?
15:21:48 [jeanne]
JR: I think we will have very few "not applicable", a lot of "applicable as is" and then a group of "requires changes"
15:22:49 [jeanne]
KP: I think if it applies broadly, we should mark it as requires changes and then put it in the comments.
15:23:28 [jeanne]
JR: I think we have to be very careful about marking existing WCAG techniques as not APplicable.
15:23:47 [jeanne]
... for example, saying keyboard doesn't apply to mobile is not correct.
15:24:19 [jeanne]
... be careful about marking things as not applicable, because there will be very very few that actually are not applicable.
15:24:30 [jeanne]
... beware of stereotypes of mobile
15:25:05 [jeanne]
Alan: I think when we look at different devices and screensides we have to be very careful of saying "not applicable"
15:25:39 [jeanne]
JS: Should we remove the "not applicable" and only work with "as is" and "changes"
15:25:57 [jeanne]
ALan: I think we can keep it, but use it very rarely.
15:27:10 [jeanne]
JS: I worry that people not in this meeting may not understand the context we have been discussing
15:27:19 [jeanne]
ALan: Put a note in the instructions
15:28:14 [jeanne]
KP: Next time people will have more experience and things will come up.
15:30:49 [Zakim]
-Jan
15:30:51 [jeanne]
JS: There will be a meeting on 5th to coordinate with other task forces who are working on the Techniques
15:30:56 [Zakim]
-Kathleen
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-Alan_Smith
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-wuwei
15:31:18 [jeanne]
... that Kathy and Kim will be attending
15:31:25 [jeanne]
zakim, who is here?
15:31:25 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Kim_Patch, Jeanne
15:31:26 [Zakim]
On IRC I see Alan_, jeanne, Jan, wuwei, Kathleen, Zakim, RRSAgent, KimPatch, MichaelC, trackbot
15:32:20 [jeanne]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/31-mobile-a11y-minutes.html jeanne
15:32:23 [Alan_]
Alan will work on his items over the weekend so you have supporting documentation for your Wednesday meeting with the other workgroups.
15:32:37 [jeanne]
rrsagent, make logs public
15:32:45 [jeanne]
regrets+ gavin, kathy
15:32:59 [jeanne]
zakim, bye
15:32:59 [Zakim]
leaving. As of this point the attendees were Kim_Patch, Kathleen, Alan_Smith, Jan, Jeanne, wuwei
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15:33:10 [jeanne]
present+ Kim_Patch, Kathleen, Alan_Smith, Jan, Jeanne, wuwei
15:33:24 [jeanne]
rrsagent, make minutes
15:33:24 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/31-mobile-a11y-minutes.html jeanne
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15:40:17 [KimPatch]
regrets+ david todd
15:40:35 [jeanne]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/31-mobile-a11y-minutes.html jeanne
15:41:01 [jeanne]
regrets- david todd
15:41:12 [jeanne]
regrets+ david_todd
15:41:21 [jeanne]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/31-mobile-a11y-minutes.html jeanne
15:41:44 [jeanne]
rrsagent, bye
15:41:44 [RRSAgent]
I see no action items