14:19:43 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined #rd
14:19:43 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/01/29-rd-irc
14:19:44 <sharper> zakim, please clear the agenda
14:19:44 <Zakim> agenda cleared
14:19:45 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
14:19:47 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7394
14:19:47 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_RDWG()9:30AM scheduled to start in 11 minutes
14:19:48 <trackbot> Meeting: Research and Development Working Group Teleconference
14:19:48 <trackbot> Date: 29 January 2014
14:20:04 <sharper> Chair: Harper_Simon
14:20:05 <sharper> Agenda+ Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments) [sharper]
14:20:06 <sharper> Agenda+ https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/40 [klaus]
14:20:08 <sharper> Agenda+ https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/38 [sharper]
14:20:09 <sharper> Agenda+ https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/43 [sharper]
14:20:11 <sharper> Agenda+ https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/47 [shadi]
14:20:12 <sharper> Agenda+ New Topic [mark]
14:20:14 <sharper> Agenda+ E-Learning Symposium Status http://goo.gl/bbjL92 [justin silvia]
14:20:15 <sharper> Agenda+ STANDING  - Next Symposium Topic [sharper]
14:20:16 <sharper> Agenda+ STANDING  - Next Catalogue Topic [sharper]
14:20:17 <sharper> Agenda+ STANDING - Any Other Business [sharper]
14:20:22 <sharper> zakim, save agenda
14:20:23 <sharper> zakim, take up item 1
14:20:29 <Zakim> ok, sharper, the agenda has been written to http://www.w3.org/2014/01/29-rd-agenda.rdf
14:20:31 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments)" taken up [from sharper]
14:21:51 <Zakim> WAI_RDWG()9:30AM has now started
14:21:58 <klaus> klaus has joined #rd
14:21:58 <Zakim> +??P2
14:22:13 <klaus> zakim, ??P2 is me
14:22:13 <Zakim> +klaus; got it
14:22:24 <klaus> zakim, mute me
14:22:24 <Zakim> sorry, klaus, muting is not permitted when only one person is present
14:24:38 <sharper> Regrets: Kerstin, David, Giorgio, Markel, Luz, Mark
14:24:53 <sharper> rrsagent, make logs public
14:24:53 <sharper> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:24:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/29-rd-minutes.html sharper
14:25:16 <sharper> <http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/scribes>
14:26:11 <gcapiel> gcapiel has joined #rd
14:26:46 <Zakim> +??P3
14:27:00 <Vivienne> Vivienne has joined #rd
14:27:24 <gcapiel> Zakim, ??P3 is me
14:27:24 <Zakim> +gcapiel; got it
14:29:39 <Zakim> +Shadi
14:29:50 <shadi> zakim, who is making noise?
14:30:01 <Zakim> shadi, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: gcapiel (74%)
14:30:05 <shadi> zakim, who is on the phone?
14:30:05 <Zakim> On the phone I see klaus, gcapiel, Shadi
14:30:12 <Yehya> Yehya has joined #rd
14:30:18 <annika> annika has joined #rd
14:30:19 <Zakim> +??P5
14:30:28 <sharper> zakim, ??P5 is sharper
14:30:28 <Zakim> +sharper; got it
14:30:52 <Zakim> +??P6
14:31:14 <Zakim> +[FIT]
14:31:21 <annika> zakim, ??P6 is me
14:31:21 <Zakim> +annika; got it
14:31:26 <annika> zakim, mute me
14:31:26 <Zakim> annika should now be muted
14:31:39 <Yehya> zakim, [FIT] is me
14:31:39 <Zakim> +Yehya; got it
14:34:17 <shadi> zakim, who is on the phone?
14:34:17 <Zakim> On the phone I see klaus, gcapiel, Shadi, sharper, annika (muted), Yehya
14:34:43 <Yehya> zakim, take item 2
14:34:43 <Zakim> I don't understand 'take item 2', Yehya
14:34:55 <Yehya> zakim, take up item 2
14:34:55 <Zakim> agendum 2. "https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/40" taken up [from klaus via sharper]
14:35:01 <sharper> <http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/wiki/Weekly_Call_Scribing>
14:35:08 <shadi> zakim, mute me
14:35:08 <Zakim> Shadi should now be muted
14:35:44 <sharper> http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/2012/easy-to-read/note/ED-E2R
14:35:49 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:35:52 <klaus> zakim, unmute me
14:35:52 <Zakim> klaus was not muted, klaus
14:35:55 <Vivienne> zakim, IPcall is me
14:35:55 <Zakim> sorry, Vivienne, I do not recognize a party named 'IPcall'
14:36:07 <Vivienne> zakim, IPcaller is me
14:36:07 <Zakim> +Vivienne; got it
14:37:06 <Yehya> KM: the changes were editorial. Some changes to the section, which defines E2R
14:37:54 <shadi> ack me
14:38:01 <klaus> zakim, mute me
14:38:01 <Zakim> klaus should now be muted
14:38:33 <Yehya> SAZ: explains how to move forward according to W3C procedures
14:39:20 <Yehya> SAZ: give people one week to look to the document and to check if their comments were addressed properly. If yes the docu can be published
14:39:49 <klaus> zakim, unmute me
14:39:49 <Zakim> klaus should no longer be muted
14:39:57 <shadi> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/47076/E2R-Draft/results
14:40:11 <Yehya> KM: will make a lsit of changes made
14:40:39 <shadi> q+
14:40:49 <klaus> zakim, mute me
14:40:49 <Zakim> klaus should now be muted
14:41:03 <sharper> Action: klaus to see if the list of change requests and changes are available for E2R
14:41:05 <trackbot> Created ACTION-51 - See if the list of change requests and changes are available for e2r [on Klaus Miesenberge - due 2014-02-05].
14:41:40 <sharper> ack shad
14:41:41 <shadi> ack me
14:41:54 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/conformance/comments-20130226
14:42:35 <Yehya> SAZ: brings an example of another WAI group to show how a working draft looks like
14:43:05 <Yehya> zakim, take up next item
14:43:05 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments)" taken up [from sharper]
14:43:13 <Yehya> zakim, take up next item
14:43:13 <Zakim> agendum 1 was just opened, Yehya
14:43:14 <shadi> zakim, mute me
14:43:14 <Zakim> Shadi should now be muted
14:43:17 <Yehya> zakim, take up next item
14:43:17 <Zakim> agendum 1 was just opened, Yehya
14:43:27 <Yehya> zakim, take up item 3
14:43:27 <Zakim> agendum 3. "https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/38" taken up [from sharper]
14:44:34 <Vivienne> zakim, mute me
14:44:34 <Zakim> Vivienne should now be muted
14:44:36 <shadi> zakim, who is making noise?
14:44:52 <Zakim> shadi, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: sharper (95%)
14:44:53 <Yehya> still noisy
14:44:54 <Vivienne> The audio is breaking up really badly
14:45:09 <shadi> ack me
14:45:36 <shadi> zakim, mute me
14:45:36 <Zakim> Shadi should now be muted
14:45:42 <sharper> shadi can you take the group through your comments
14:45:50 <shadi> ack me
14:45:50 <sharper> on my text
14:45:55 <Zakim> -sharper
14:46:47 <Zakim> +??P5
14:46:57 <sharper> zakim, ??P5 is sharper
14:46:57 <Zakim> +sharper; got it
14:47:17 <sharper> oh dear.
14:48:11 <Vivienne> I haven't seen it before
14:48:17 <shadi> https://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/actions/38
14:48:50 <Vivienne> q+
14:48:57 <Vivienne> zakim, ack me
14:48:57 <Zakim> unmuting Vivienne
14:48:58 <Zakim> I see no one on the speaker queue
14:49:56 <Yehya> Vivienne: senntence broken at third para.
14:50:14 <Yehya> Vivienne: approach and content are great
14:50:18 <Vivienne> zakim, mute me
14:50:18 <Zakim> Vivienne should now be muted
14:50:18 <Yehya> q+
14:50:42 <klaus> +1
14:51:47 <Vivienne> Yes, there are 3 paragraphs starting with 'we'
14:51:55 <Yehya> SAZ: has some comments - the use of pronoun "we" is may be in appropriate
14:52:06 <Vivienne> 4th paragraph could say "topics already covered include:..."
14:52:21 <annika> q+
14:52:39 <Yehya> SAZ: not to have specific symposia but rather the output
14:52:59 <Vivienne> It doesn't say much about the webinars or how people get the research to people
14:54:09 <Yehya> SAZ: not a blanket invitation to everybody - describe the uniqueness  of the group - Highlight the impact of the group
14:54:14 <Yehya> q-
14:54:15 <shadi> q- yah
14:54:19 <annika> ack me
14:55:15 <Yehya> Annika: more inviting focusing on the user, take their point of view , where they can help in accessibility
14:55:17 <shadi> RDWG FAQ http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/process
14:56:25 <annika> zakim, mute me
14:56:25 <Zakim> annika should now be muted
14:57:49 <shadi> agenda?
14:57:50 <Yehya> SAZ: additionally what you can expect from the group
14:58:17 <shadi> zakim, drop agendum 1
14:58:17 <Zakim> agendum 1, Welcome & Logistics (Regrets, Agenda Requests, Comments), dropped
14:58:31 <Vivienne> much better, but now I'm having trouble with Shadi's sound
14:58:42 <Vivienne> sorry, I've got only 1 hand working
14:58:44 <shadi> zakim, mute me
14:58:44 <Zakim> Shadi should now be muted
14:59:07 <shadi> ack me
15:00:19 <Zakim> -Yehya
15:04:42 <shadi> zakim, mute me
15:04:42 <Zakim> Shadi should now be muted
15:05:45 <Vivienne> sorry I can't right now - phd-ing
15:06:07 <shadi> q+
15:06:10 <shadi> ack me
15:06:12 <sharper> ack shadi
15:06:25 <klaus> zakim, unmute me
15:06:25 <Zakim> klaus should no longer be muted
15:06:50 <shadi> zakim, mute me
15:06:50 <Zakim> Shadi should now be muted
15:06:57 <klaus> zakim, mute me
15:06:57 <Zakim> klaus should now be muted
15:07:45 <Zakim> -gcapiel
15:07:48 <sharper> Action: klaus to share details of the two upcoming Catalogue topics.
15:07:49 <trackbot> Created ACTION-52 - Share details of the two upcoming catalogue topics. [on Klaus Miesenberge - due 2014-02-05].
15:08:13 <Zakim> +??P3
15:08:13 <shadi> ack me
15:08:38 <gcapiel> Zakim, ??P3 is me
15:08:38 <Zakim> +gcapiel; got it
15:09:14 <sharper> Action: markhu to Update the group on the Next Topic
15:09:14 <trackbot> Error finding 'markhu'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/users>.
15:09:30 <sharper> Action: markku to Update the group on the Next Topic
15:09:31 <trackbot> Created ACTION-53 - Update the group on the next topic [on Markku Hakkinen - due 2014-02-05].
15:10:23 <Zakim> -gcapiel
15:10:29 <annika> bye
15:10:29 <Vivienne> bye now
15:10:32 <klaus> bye
15:10:36 <Zakim> -Vivienne
15:10:38 <Zakim> -Shadi
15:10:44 <Zakim> -klaus
15:10:45 <Zakim> -sharper
15:11:12 <sharper> sharper has left #rd
15:11:29 <shadi> trackbot, end meeting
15:11:29 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
15:11:29 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been klaus, gcapiel, Shadi, sharper, annika, Yehya, Vivienne
15:11:37 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
15:11:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/29-rd-minutes.html trackbot
15:11:38 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
15:11:38 <RRSAgent> I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2014/01/29-rd-actions.rdf :
15:11:38 <RRSAgent> ACTION: klaus to see if the list of change requests and changes are available for E2R [1]
15:11:38 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/01/29-rd-irc#T14-41-03
15:11:38 <RRSAgent> ACTION: klaus to share details of the two upcoming Catalogue topics. [2]
15:11:38 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/01/29-rd-irc#T15-07-48
15:11:38 <RRSAgent> ACTION: markhu to Update the group on the Next Topic [3]
15:11:38 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/01/29-rd-irc#T15-09-14
15:11:38 <RRSAgent> ACTION: markku to Update the group on the Next Topic [4]
15:11:38 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/01/29-rd-irc#T15-09-30