IRC log of html-a11y on 2014-01-27

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Zakim, this will be 2119

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ok, trackbot; I see WAI_HTML AT()6:00PM scheduled to start in 8 minutes

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Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference

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Date: 27 January 2014

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Meeting: Canvas Accessibility Sub-Group Teleconference

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agenda?

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zakim, clear agenda

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agenda cleared

22:58:57 [MarkS]

agenda+ Review, verify and close remaining bugs for L1 (see below)

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agenda+ 23982 Focus Ring out of canvas https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23982

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agenda+ 23983 Scrolling the focus into view https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23983

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agenda+ 24340 Change reference to the phrases "focus ring" and "focus region" to "focus outline" https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24340

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agenda+ Code Example

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agenda+ Testing

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agenda+ Next Meeting

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WAI_HTML AT()6:00PM has now started

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+MarkS

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+[Microsoft]

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zakim, microsoft has me

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+jaymunro; got it

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+[Microsoft.a]

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+Rich_Schwerdtfeger

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+cabanier

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scribe: MarkS

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zakim, next item

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I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, MarkS

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q?

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ack pa

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zakim, next item

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agendum 5. "Code Example" taken up [from MarkS]

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zakim, take up item 1

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agendum 1. "Review, verify and close remaining bugs for L1 (see below)" taken up [from MarkS]

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zakim, take up item 2

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agendum 2. "23982 Focus Ring out of canvas https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23982" taken up [from MarkS]

23:08:29 [MarkS]

JMunro: Seemed pretty straightforward. I made the changes

23:09:06 [JatinderMann]

http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/2dcontext/html5_canvas_CR/#dom-context-2d-drawfocusifneeded

23:10:42 [MarkS]

RS: not every platform may support an AAPI. We can say "if". Do you think we need that?

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JMunro: how about if supported?

23:11:04 [JatinderMann]

Revision: "The full location of the corresponding fallback element is passed to the accessibility API is supported."

23:11:13 [JatinderMann]

Sorry, revision: "The full location of the corresponding fallback element is passed to the accessibility API if supported."

23:11:47 [MarkS]

RS: does the clipping region include the bounds of the canvas element?

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RC: is that a problem?

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...by default the clipping region is infinite

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RS: somewhere we should say that its clipped to the canvas element

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RC: It's implied. shouldn't be necessary

23:14:07 [MarkS]

...this should answer Apple's question

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zakim, take up item 3

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agendum 3. "23983 Scrolling the focus into view https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23983" taken up [from MarkS]

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RS: looks good to me

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zakim, take up item 4

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agendum 4. "24340 Change reference to the phrases "focus ring" and "focus region" to "focus outline" https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24340" taken up [from MarkS]

23:16:26 [MarkS]

MS: looks like there are no more references to rings or regions

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RS: is there a reason we have current path and event loop underlined?

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JMunro: its underlined throughout the entire section. I copy/pasted it from another reference

23:17:47 [richardschwerdtfeger]

The context always has a current default path. There is only one current path, it is not part of the drawing state. The current path is a path, as described above.

23:18:29 [MarkS]

MS: they all have a span element

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JMunro: that is a holdover from when Path object was still in there

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...I can take all of those out.

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zakim, take up item 5

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agendum 5. "Code Example" taken up [from MarkS]

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MS: there is a code example at the bottom of this spec. should we add an example of using drawFocusIfNeeded?

23:21:13 [MarkS]

JMann: The old example wasn't working in any browser.

23:21:46 [MarkS]

...could benefit from a simpler example.

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MS: Jay, if you send me the old example, I can slim it down and update it.

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zakim, take up item 6

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agendum 6. "Testing" taken up [from MarkS]

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MS: I will list all of the testable statements this week and get started on writing tests. will update you if I need any help.

23:26:09 [MarkS]

zakim, agenda?

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I see 6 items remaining on the agenda:

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5. Code Example [from MarkS]

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6. Testing [from MarkS]

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7. Next Meeting [from MarkS]

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2. 23982 Focus Ring out of canvas https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23982 [from MarkS]

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3. 23983 Scrolling the focus into view https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23983 [from MarkS]

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1. Review, verify and close remaining bugs for L1 (see below) [from MarkS]

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zakim, close item 1

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agendum 1, Review, verify and close remaining bugs for L1 (see below), closed

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I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

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5. Code Example [from MarkS]

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zakim, close item 2

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agendum 2, 23982 Focus Ring out of canvas https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23982, closed

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I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

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5. Code Example [from MarkS]

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zakim, close item 3

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agendum 3, 23983 Scrolling the focus into view https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23983, closed

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I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

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5. Code Example [from MarkS]

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zakim, close item 4

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agendum 4, 24340 Change reference to the phrases "focus ring" and "focus region" to "focus outline" https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24340, closed

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zakim, close item 5

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I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

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5. Code Example [from MarkS]

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agendum 5, Code Example, closed

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I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

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6. Testing [from MarkS]

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zakim, close item 6

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agendum 6, Testing, closed

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I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:

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7. Next Meeting [from MarkS]

23:27:01 [MarkS]

RS: how are we doing with implementations?

23:27:37 [MarkS]

RC: Mozilla expressed some concerns that hit regions should be used for this. Don't like updating AAPI with regions. Seem like they can be convinced though.

23:28:29 [MarkS]

...another concern was if there would be a conflict when we do add hit regions.

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JM: we should also ping other implementers to let them know the spec has been updated

23:28:43 [MarkS]

RC: I will try to do that this week

23:29:23 [MarkS]

...Step 4 says that "Inform the user that the focus is at the location given by the path." I think that is still a little unclear

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...there is no focus at that point.

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...maybe focus should go away there.

23:30:06 [MarkS]

JMann:" inform the user of the location given by the path"

23:30:17 [JatinderMann]

4.Inform the user of the location given by the path.

23:30:28 [MarkS]

JMunro: yeah sure, that makes sense

23:31:07 [MarkS]

JMann: just want to add an action item to share this with everyone that should be reviewing it.

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-[Microsoft.a]

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-Rich_Schwerdtfeger

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zakim, agenda?

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-cabanier

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I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:

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7. Next Meeting [from MarkS]

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-[Microsoft]

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zakim, close item 7

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agendum 7, Next Meeting, closed

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I see nothing remaining on the agenda

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-MarkS

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WAI_HTML AT()6:00PM has ended

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Attendees were MarkS, jaymunro, [Microsoft], Rich_Schwerdtfeger, cabanier

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rrsagent, make minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/27-html-a11y-minutes.html MarkS

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