Teleconference Record 2015-06-17

Present

Phil Archer, emma.beer, Harris Alexopoulos, Makx Dekkers, Sanaz, Jan Kučera, Peter Winstanley

Regrets

Martin, Nancy, Noel

Chair

Phil

Meeting began at 09:01:56
Makx Dekkers sorry got confused. I am here
Phil Archerhttps://www.w3.org/2013/share-psi/wiki/Best_Practices
Phil Archerhttps://www.w3.org/2013/share-psi/wiki/Best_Practices/Management_Of_A_Wide_Public_Actors_Network
Makx Dekkers +q
Phil Archerhttps://www.w3.org/2013/share-psi/wiki/Elements
Phil Archerhttp://www.w3.org/2013/share-psi/elements
emma.beer Noel asking to be added to call and xalexopoulos
Phil Archerhttp://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#challenges
Start with the 13 elements. Many BPs say they cover more than one element. Which bit of the doc applies to which element
Each new BP ideally only refers to one element
Otherwise you get a lot of duplication, overlap or conflict
So if a BP says at the end that they do something for policies and legislation - what is it? Try taking away the other stuff in that BP so it only addresses one element
It's more work to do it that way. We have to re-write each BP into multiple ones.
Or we can include anchors in each BP so that we can link to specific bits
Valentina I'd like to siuggest we divide the 13 between us. So maybe I take tech aspects/formats, and then I just look for those two elements.
... and then maybe Noel takes organisation
Jan WE'll have maybe 13 people -> 13 elements. Then the person for each element reads all the BPs?
Makx I'd say only the ones that say they address those elements.
Peter Winstanley +Q
... so maybe Jan takes charging, there are only two that say they cover that element
Peter You need the context though.
... We probably need a story about a situation, and a side commentray that describes where you see in that the best practice
... That's lots of work. We can't just go through and chop out a particlar BP in a lot of cases as they're so knitted to gether
... But maybe we dissect out the aspects we need.
Peter In addition to taggingk, we need to explain to the reader what it is they're looking at
Fatemeh There are 2 scenarios. One is for us to pick an element and go through teh BPs that work for that. Alt is to go through those BPs and see what elements that fit. I think the second is more efficient.
... The first one seems like a lot of hard work
... We may find more links
Phil Archerhttps://www.w3.org/2013/share-psi/wiki/Best_Practices/Publish_spatial_data_on_the_web
Emma If it doesn't say which element it belongs to, should we go back to them and ask them to do it?
Phil Archerhttp://www.w3.org/2013/share-psi/elements
Valentina Techniques, formats and quality
emma.beer I would be happy to do dataset criteria or commercial re-use
Jan KučeraJan Selection ano/or Organisation
Peter WinstanleyMakx can you copy that spreadsheet to all please
I'm back
SanazPlatforms Re-Use, Selection and Organisation
Makx DekkersMakx Charging, commercial re-use
Harris AlexopoulosHarris Platform
Peter WinstanleyPeter Persistence
Peter Winstanley I'll taketh
Policies & Legislation - Nancy
Peter WinstanleyPeter Discoverability
NoelTechniques?
Re-use is Fatemeh and Makx
QualityValentina
DocumentationMakx
SelectionJan
So Makx- on re-use
PaterDiscoverability & persistence
Martinsupport Phil in pulling it together
Peter Winstanley +1
Phil; Suggest half a page per BP
Makx Plan to go through the ones I'm doing, copy a senetence or two to describe the context
Peter Winstanleyyes that's a good idea
… Anchors may not be needed
... might becvome confusing
Jan Might be useful if some of what's there provides context.
... Might want to point to whole story, not just individual sentences
Phil What we have now are use cases/stories.
... We then derive the terse advice/.guidance (best practice) from that
Harris it would be good if Phil could send the template and info.
Makx In the BPs site on the wiki... I see the initial set, Samos, Timisoara, Google doc. Is there more?
Peter Winstanleyyes time is OK
Emma How much are we editing?
makx We're not touching what's there. We copy and re-use relevant text, perhaps with connecting text.
Emma Please summarise that in the instructions e-mial
Makx We're creating new small documents from what we have.
Harris We have to conclude BPs from use cases. There should be a small evaluation methodology - and that needs to be described
... For it's platforms, I'll examing, say 5 UCs, but how do I conclude the BPs from them, except copy and pasting the text?
Valentina Shouold there be a 1-1 mapping between BPs and the stories?
Makx No, you start with the elements
Fatemeh So the template is important!
Jan So we're writing a total of 13 BPs?
makx No. See http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#challenges
jan That makes sense
Makx If we have that then we can decide if we want to go 1 step further and see if the 6 BPs for an element and see if they align.
… You need criteria, as Harris says, if you;re going to say which one is the best.
Jan The evaluation is something we discussed in Krems. We'll need to discuss it again in Berlin.
… A question for later.
Meeting ended at 09:50:45