Phil Archer, emma.beer, Harris Alexopoulos, Makx Dekkers, Sanaz, Jan Kučera, Peter Winstanley
Martin, Nancy, Noel
Phil
Meeting began at 09:01:56 | |
Makx Dekkers | sorry got confused. I am here |
Phil Archer | https://www.w3.org/2013/share-psi/wiki/Best_Practices |
Phil Archer | https://www.w3.org/2013/share-psi/wiki/Best_Practices/Management_Of_A_Wide_Public_Actors_Network |
Makx Dekkers | +q |
Phil Archer | https://www.w3.org/2013/share-psi/wiki/Elements |
Phil Archer | http://www.w3.org/2013/share-psi/elements |
emma.beer | Noel asking to be added to call and xalexopoulos |
Phil Archer | http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#challenges |
Start with the 13 elements. Many BPs say they cover more than one element. Which bit of the doc applies to which element | |
Each new BP ideally only refers to one element | |
Otherwise you get a lot of duplication, overlap or conflict | |
So if a BP says at the end that they do something for policies and legislation - what is it? Try taking away the other stuff in that BP so it only addresses one element | |
It's more work to do it that way. We have to re-write each BP into multiple ones. | |
Or we can include anchors in each BP so that we can link to specific bits | |
Valentina | I'd like to siuggest we divide the 13 between us. So maybe I take tech aspects/formats, and then I just look for those two elements. |
... and then maybe Noel takes organisation | |
Jan | WE'll have maybe 13 people -> 13 elements. Then the person for each element reads all the BPs? |
Makx | I'd say only the ones that say they address those elements. |
Peter Winstanley | +Q |
... so maybe Jan takes charging, there are only two that say they cover that element | |
Peter | You need the context though. |
... We probably need a story about a situation, and a side commentray that describes where you see in that the best practice | |
... That's lots of work. We can't just go through and chop out a particlar BP in a lot of cases as they're so knitted to gether | |
... But maybe we dissect out the aspects we need. | |
Peter | In addition to taggingk, we need to explain to the reader what it is they're looking at |
Fatemeh | There are 2 scenarios. One is for us to pick an element and go through teh BPs that work for that. Alt is to go through those BPs and see what elements that fit. I think the second is more efficient. |
... The first one seems like a lot of hard work | |
... We may find more links | |
Phil Archer | https://www.w3.org/2013/share-psi/wiki/Best_Practices/Publish_spatial_data_on_the_web |
Emma | If it doesn't say which element it belongs to, should we go back to them and ask them to do it? |
Phil Archer | http://www.w3.org/2013/share-psi/elements |
Valentina | Techniques, formats and quality |
emma.beer | I would be happy to do dataset criteria or commercial re-use |
Jan Kučera | Jan Selection ano/or Organisation |
Peter Winstanley | Makx can you copy that spreadsheet to all please |
I'm back | |
Sanaz | Platforms Re-Use, Selection and Organisation |
Makx Dekkers | Makx Charging, commercial re-use |
Harris Alexopoulos | Harris Platform |
Peter Winstanley | Peter Persistence |
Peter Winstanley | I'll taketh |
Policies & Legislation - Nancy | |
Peter Winstanley | Peter Discoverability |
Noel | Techniques? |
Re-use is Fatemeh and Makx | |
Quality | Valentina |
Documentation | Makx |
Selection | Jan |
So Makx- on re-use | |
Pater | Discoverability & persistence |
Martin | support Phil in pulling it together |
Peter Winstanley | +1 |
Phil; Suggest half a page per BP | |
Makx | Plan to go through the ones I'm doing, copy a senetence or two to describe the context |
Peter Winstanley | yes that's a good idea |
… Anchors may not be needed | |
... might becvome confusing | |
Jan | Might be useful if some of what's there provides context. |
... Might want to point to whole story, not just individual sentences | |
Phil | What we have now are use cases/stories. |
... We then derive the terse advice/.guidance (best practice) from that | |
Harris | it would be good if Phil could send the template and info. |
Makx | In the BPs site on the wiki... I see the initial set, Samos, Timisoara, Google doc. Is there more? |
Peter Winstanley | yes time is OK |
Emma | How much are we editing? |
makx | We're not touching what's there. We copy and re-use relevant text, perhaps with connecting text. |
Emma | Please summarise that in the instructions e-mial |
Makx | We're creating new small documents from what we have. |
Harris | We have to conclude BPs from use cases. There should be a small evaluation methodology - and that needs to be described |
... For it's platforms, I'll examing, say 5 UCs, but how do I conclude the BPs from them, except copy and pasting the text? | |
Valentina | Shouold there be a 1-1 mapping between BPs and the stories? |
Makx | No, you start with the elements |
Fatemeh | So the template is important! |
Jan | So we're writing a total of 13 BPs? |
makx | No. See http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#challenges |
jan | That makes sense |
Makx | If we have that then we can decide if we want to go 1 step further and see if the 6 BPs for an element and see if they align. |
… You need criteria, as Harris says, if you;re going to say which one is the best. | |
Jan | The evaluation is something we discussed in Krems. We'll need to discuss it again in Berlin. |
… A question for later. | |
Meeting ended at 09:50:45 |