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XHTML2 Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 10 March 2010

Agenda
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2010Mar/0008
Seen
Gregory Rosmaita, Markus Gylling, Shane McCarron, Steven Pemberton, Unknown Tina
Regrets
Gregory Rosmaita
Chair
Steven Pemberton
Scribe
Steven Pemberton
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Resolutions

None.

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13:07:01 <trackbot> Meeting: XHTML2 Working Group Teleconference
13:07:01 <trackbot> Date: 10 March 2010
13:07:19 <Steven> zakim, room for 6 at 1445z for 60 minutes?

Steven Pemberton: zakim, room for 6 at 1445z for 60 minutes?

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13:17:27 <Tina> 'fternoon Steven

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Unknown Tina: 'fternoon Steven

13:17:53 <Steven> Hey there!

Steven Pemberton: Hey there!

13:18:36 <Tina> All well?

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Unknown Tina: All well?

13:18:46 <Steven> Yes thanks.

Steven Pemberton: Yes thanks.

13:18:53 <Steven> How about you? Spring broken yet?

Steven Pemberton: How about you? Spring broken yet?

13:19:11 <Tina> At THIS speed that'll be around September ;)

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Unknown Tina: At THIS speed that'll be around September ;)

13:19:16 <Steven> lol

Steven Pemberton: lol

13:19:44 <Tina> Well, it's +1C but still 45-50cm snow, so ... *theoretically* it has broken. In reality it IS broken ...

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Unknown Tina: Well, it's +1C but still 45-50cm snow, so ... *theoretically* it has broken. In reality it IS broken ...

13:20:17 <Steven> :-)

Steven Pemberton: :-)

13:20:48 <Steven> We actually had a sprinkling of snow yesterday.

Steven Pemberton: We actually had a sprinkling of snow yesterday.

13:21:01 <Steven> all gone now though

Steven Pemberton: all gone now though

14:05:19 <Tina> 40 minutes?

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Unknown Tina: 40 minutes?

14:05:29 <Steven_> yes

Steven Pemberton: yes

14:45:12 <ShaneM> zakim, what is the code?

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Shane McCarron: zakim, what is the code?

14:45:12 <Zakim> the conference code is 26631 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), ShaneM

Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 26631 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), ShaneM

14:45:16 <Zakim> Team_(xhtml)14:45Z has now started

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14:45:23 <Zakim> +ShaneM

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14:45:52 <Zakim> +Tina

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14:46:11 <Steven_> zakim, dial steven-617

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14:46:11 <Zakim> ok, Steven_; the call is being made

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14:46:13 <Zakim> +Steven

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14:46:13 <Zakim> +mgylling

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14:46:44 <Steven_> SCribe: Steven

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14:47:20 <Steven> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2010Mar/0008
14:47:26 <Steven> Regrets: Gregory
14:47:34 <Steven> s/SC?Sc/

s/SC?Sc/ (warning: replacement failed)

14:47:39 <Steven> s/SC/Sc/
14:48:15 <Steven> Topic: PERs

1. PERs

14:48:21 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes

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14:48:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/10-xhtml-minutes.html Steven

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14:48:47 <Steven> Chair: Steven
14:50:04 <Steven> Steven: Ralph sent us the go ahead, so we can now work with the Comms team to publish the call for review

Steven Pemberton: Ralph sent us the go ahead, so we can now work with the Comms team to publish the call for review

14:51:18 <Steven> Steven: So I will work on that this week with Shane

Steven Pemberton: So I will work on that this week with Shane

14:51:52 <Steven> ... I need to check for a possible publishing blackout because of the AC meeting week after next

... I need to check for a possible publishing blackout because of the AC meeting week after next

14:52:28 <Steven> Steven: And I will push the request for the other PERs as well

Steven Pemberton: And I will push the request for the other PERs as well

14:52:48 <Steven> Regrets+Alessio

Regrets+Alessio

14:53:00 <Steven> Topic: Media types

2. Media types

14:53:29 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2010/ED-xhtml-media-types-20100218/xhtml-media-types-diff.html

http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2010/ED-xhtml-media-types-20100218/xhtml-media-types-diff.html

14:56:25 <Steven> Tina: Section 3 on usage

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Unknown Tina: Section 3 on usage

14:57:29 <Steven> ... should mention the effect of different q values

... should mention the effect of different q values

14:58:24 <Steven> SHane: Do you have recommended wording?

Shane McCarron: Do you have recommended wording?

14:58:30 <Steven> Tina: Not off the top of my head

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Unknown Tina: Not off the top of my head

14:58:44 <Steven> s/SH/Sh/
14:58:52 <Steven> Tine: THis is not a major change

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Unknown Tine: This is not a major change

14:59:19 <Steven> s/TH/Th/
14:59:49 <Steven> Shane: We added the q stuff as a reponse to a comment

Shane McCarron: We added the q stuff as a reponse to a comment

14:59:59 <Steven> ... I wouldn't want to remove it

... I wouldn't want to remove it

15:09:43 <Steven> ][Steven explains the difference between HTML ans XHTML]

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15:17:49 <Steven> ACTION: Shane to suggest wording for q value section of media types doc

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ACTION: Shane to suggest wording for q value section of media types doc

15:17:49 <trackbot> Created ACTION-111 - Suggest wording for q value section of media types doc [on Shane McCarron - due 2010-03-17].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-111 - Suggest wording for q value section of media types doc [on Shane McCarron - due 2010-03-17].

15:19:06 <Steven> Shane: I suppose you are suggesting we should review this: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2010Mar/0004

Shane McCarron: I suppose you are suggesting we should review this: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2010Mar/0004

15:20:25 <Steven> Markus: Appendix E is not up to date

Markus Gylling: Appendix E is not up to date

15:20:50 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to provide info for appx E of media types doc

ACTION: Steven to provide info for appx E of media types doc

15:20:50 <trackbot> Created ACTION-112 - Provide info for appx E of media types doc [on Steven Pemberton - due 2010-03-17].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-112 - Provide info for appx E of media types doc [on Steven Pemberton - due 2010-03-17].

15:21:45 <Steven> Shane: I made some changes

Shane McCarron: I made some changes

15:22:44 <Steven> ... I disagree with deleting old sections that are now empty

... I disagree with deleting old sections that are now empty

15:23:05 <Steven> ... A11 I did

... A11 I did

15:23:47 <Steven> ... A21 he is confused

... A21 he is confused

15:24:09 <Steven> ... He has not had a reply

... He has not had a reply

15:24:14 <Steven> Steven: SO we should do that

Steven Pemberton: So we should do that

15:24:18 <Steven> s/SO/So/
15:25:04 <Steven> Shane: I will do that, it is not rec track, so we don't need to do formal replies

Shane McCarron: I will do that, it is not rec track, so we don't need to do formal replies

15:25:16 <Steven> Steven: True. But it would be polite

Steven Pemberton: True. But it would be polite

15:25:47 <Steven> Topic: Role

3. Role

15:26:20 <Steven> Shane: I have made a draft, the charter is not in placem but I am working on it

Shane McCarron: I have made a draft, the charter is not in placem but I am working on it

15:26:27 <Steven> Steven: SO we can let this go

Steven Pemberton: So we can let this go

15:26:30 <Steven> Shane: Yes

Shane McCarron: Yes

15:26:30 <ShaneM> Development versio is at http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/src/role-attribute-src.html

Shane McCarron: Development versio is at http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/src/role-attribute-src.html

15:26:37 <Steven> s/SO/So/
15:26:45 <Steven> Topic: XHTML2

4. XHTML2

15:27:15 <Steven> Steven: So there is a new draft to look at

Steven Pemberton: So there is a new draft to look at

15:27:17 <Steven> ... http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2010/ED-xhtml2-20100306/

... http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2010/ED-xhtml2-20100306/

15:27:52 <Steven> Shane: It is now a note, the status needs reviewing

Shane McCarron: It is now a note, the status needs reviewing

15:27:56 <Steven> ... no other work to do

... no other work to do

15:28:11 <Steven> Steven: OK. THanks.

Steven Pemberton: OK. Thanks.

15:28:16 <Steven> s/TH/Th/
15:28:28 <Zakim> -Tina

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15:28:30 <Zakim> -mgylling

Zakim IRC Bot: -mgylling

15:28:31 <Zakim> -ShaneM

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15:28:31 <Steven> [ADJOURNED]

[ADJOURNED]

15:28:39 <Zakim> -Steven

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15:28:40 <Zakim> Team_(xhtml)14:45Z has ended

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15:28:41 <Zakim> Attendees were ShaneM, Tina, Steven, mgylling

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were ShaneM, Tina, Steven, mgylling

15:29:28 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes

rrsagent, make minutes

15:29:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/10-xhtml-minutes.html Steven

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/03/10-xhtml-minutes.html Steven

15:33:52 <Zakim> Team_(xhtml)14:45Z has now started

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15:34:00 <Zakim> +AllanJ

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15:35:01 <Zakim> +Jeanne

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15:37:01 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]

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15:54:45 <Steven> weird

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weird

15:55:02 <Zakim> This conference is in overtime; all ports must be freed

Zakim IRC Bot: This conference is in overtime; all ports must be freed

15:57:03 <Tina> Poor Zakim.

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Scribe problem: the name 'Tina' does not match any of the 23 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Christina Bottomley Elias Torres Gerrie Shults Gregory Rosmaita John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Markus Gylling Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Mohamed ZERGAOUI Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Tina: Poor Zakim.

16:01:03 <Steven> zakim, bye

zakim, bye

16:01:03 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were AllanJ, Jeanne, [Microsoft]

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