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XHTML2 WG Weekly Teleconference

Minutes of 09 July 2008

Agenda
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Jul/0010.html
Seen
Alessio Cartocci, Gregory Rosmaita, Roland Merrick, Shane McCarron, Steven Pemberton, Tina Holmboe
Chair
Roland Merrick
Scribe
Gregory Rosmaita
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. request Role Module transition to CR link
  2. request Role Module transition to CR link
Topics
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13:41:44 <rmerric> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Jul/0010.html
13:42:10 <rmerric> Zakim, this will be xhtml2

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13:42:37 <rmerric> Meeting: XHTML2 WG Weekly Teleconference
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13:44:00 <Roland> Chair: Roland
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13:44:47 <ShaneM> zakim, McCarron is ShaneM

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13:45:06 <Zakim> +Roland

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13:45:08 <Zakim> -Roland

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13:45:08 <Zakim> +Roland

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13:45:45 <Zakim> +Tina

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13:48:21 <Zakim> +Gregory_Rosmaita

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13:48:26 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617

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13:48:27 <Zakim> +Steven

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13:49:19 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

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13:49:40 <oedipus> zakim, IPcaller is alessio

Gregory Rosmaita: zakim, IPcaller is alessio

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13:50:30 <oedipus> chair: Roland Merrick
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13:51:31 <oedipus> scribe: Gregory_Rosmaita

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13:51:36 <oedipus> scribeNick: oedipus
13:51:39 <oedipus> TOPIC: Reviews

1. Reviews

13:51:56 <oedipus> RM: TAG finding on passwords in clear; Shane and Tina investigated

Roland Merrick: TAG finding on passwords in clear; Shane and Tina investigated

13:52:11 <oedipus> SM: have not gotten to it

Shane McCarron: have not gotten to it

13:52:25 <oedipus> TH: re-read, but not found any other comments than those i made during last call

Tina Holmboe: re-read, but not found any other comments than those i made during the last WG call

13:52:41 <oedipus> s/during last call/during the last WG call
13:52:50 <oedipus> SM: will coordinate response with TH

Shane McCarron: will coordinate response with TH

13:53:18 <oedipus> RM: XSD - identified MarkB as best reviewer, haven't heard back from him; hasn't been able to attend calls in a while

Roland Merrick: XSD - identified MarkB as best reviewer, haven't heard back from him; hasn't been able to attend calls in a while

13:53:29 <oedipus> RM: allowing comments until 1 september 2008

Roland Merrick: allowing comments until 1 september 2008

13:53:47 <oedipus> TOPIC: CURIE Syntax

2. CURIE Syntax

13:53:54 <oedipus> RM: transition progress?

Roland Merrick: transition progress?

13:54:19 <oedipus> SP: sent transition req, but no reply; will follow up again

Steven Pemberton: sent transition req, but no reply; will follow up again

13:54:53 <oedipus> RM: wonder why we have such a lag-time everytime we put in a transition req

Roland Merrick: wonder why we have such a lag-time everytime we put in a transition req

13:56:01 <oedipus> RM: holiday in US may have gummed things up temporarily

Roland Merrick: holiday in US may have gummed things up temporarily

13:56:42 <oedipus> SP: on vacation until middle of next week after that, working half time

Steven Pemberton: on vacation until middle of next week after that, working half time

13:56:50 <oedipus> RM: good at least to have some explanation on that

Roland Merrick: good at least to have some explanation on that

13:57:09 <oedipus> TOPIC: How HTML5 relates to XHTML

3. How HTML5 relates to XHTML

13:57:19 <oedipus> SP: had delays will try and get out tomorrow morning

Steven Pemberton: had delays will try and get out tomorrow morning

13:57:25 <oedipus> TOPIC: Role transition to CR

4. Role transition to CR

13:57:28 <oedipus> RM: are we ready?

Roland Merrick: are we ready?

13:57:37 <oedipus> SM: ready

Shane McCarron: ready

13:58:05 <oedipus> proposed RESOLVED: request transition Role Module for to CR

proposed RESOLVED: request transition Role Module for to CR

13:58:12 <oedipus> SP: +1

Steven Pemberton: +1

13:58:14 <ShaneM> +1

Shane McCarron: +1

13:58:16 <oedipus> GJR: +1

Gregory Rosmaita: +1

13:58:49 <oedipus> proposed RESOLVED: request Role Module transition to CR

proposed RESOLVED: request Role Module transition to CR

13:58:57 <oedipus> Alessio: +1

Alessio Cartocci: +1

13:59:06 <Tina> +1

Tina Holmboe: +1

created using i/GJR: interested in shane's comment/RESOLVED: request Role Module transition to CR

RESOLVED: request Role Module transition to CR

13:59:10 <oedipus> GJR: interested in shane's comment

Gregory Rosmaita: interested in shane's comment

13:59:34 <oedipus> SP: moment to address testing Role attribute

Steven Pemberton: moment to address testing Role attribute

14:00:00 <oedipus> GJR: is ARIA proof-of-concept - have partial implementations, but not the type we really want

Gregory Rosmaita: is ARIA proof-of-concept - have partial implementations, but not the type we really want

14:01:05 <oedipus> SM: ARIA spec doesn't use Role module - so wrong technically

Shane McCarron: ARIA spec doesn't use Role module - so wrong technically

14:01:17 <oedipus> SM: ARIA using Role module in way XHTML2 hasn't specified

Shane McCarron: ARIA using Role module in way XHTML2 hasn't specified

14:01:40 <oedipus> GJR: but ARIA is derived from role, even if it isn't implemented as part of Role module

Gregory Rosmaita: but ARIA is derived from role, even if it isn't implemented as part of Role module

14:02:10 <oedipus> SP: can show that implementation used Role attribute to achieve ARIA - hook to hang things off of, and ARIA does that, by using extensibility mechanism

Steven Pemberton: can show that implementation used Role attribute to achieve ARIA - hook to hang things off of, and ARIA does that, by using extensibility mechanism

14:02:28 <oedipus> RM: ARIA doesn't say you can't associate with Role

Roland Merrick: ARIA doesn't say you can't associate with Role

14:03:11 <oedipus> SM: yes, but saying browser x uses Role, needs to be actually using Role as defined

Shane McCarron: yes, but saying browser x uses Role, needs to be actually using Role as defined

14:03:21 <oedipus> SP: ARIA uses rules of extensibility for Role

Steven Pemberton: ARIA uses rules of extensibility for Role

14:03:42 <oedipus> SP: things that use Role in ways consistent with what Role intended to do - need 2 implementations

Steven Pemberton: things that use Role in ways consistent with what Role intended to do - need 2 implementations

14:04:08 <oedipus> SP: if show @class being used, would show 2 CSS implementations that select off class; think can do similar with Role

Steven Pemberton: if show @class being used, would show 2 CSS implementations that select off class; think can do similar with Role

14:04:28 <oedipus> Alessio: DOM implementation identifying elements by Role - could be proof of application

Alessio Cartocci: DOM implementation identifying elements by Role - could be proof of application

14:04:35 <oedipus> SM: wrote such a javascript function

Shane McCarron: wrote such a javascript function

14:05:03 <oedipus> SP: mozilla uses role attribute, we have a javascript to handle Role, can tick implementation boxes - only need to prove that can be implemented

Steven Pemberton: mozilla uses role attribute, we have a javascript to handle Role, can tick implementation boxes - only need to prove that can be implemented

14:05:21 <oedipus> RM: conformance test?

Roland Merrick: conformance test?

14:05:25 <oedipus> SM: nothing to conform to

Shane McCarron: nothing to conform to

14:05:57 <oedipus> RM: only need to show that role attribute is picked up by UA so is available for whatever purpose one needs

Roland Merrick: only need to show that role attribute is picked up by UA so is available for whatever purpose one needs

14:06:33 <oedipus> TH: new version of quality testing tool tests for role usage - doesn't do anything with them, but flag whether present or not

Tina Holmboe: new version of quality testing tool tests for role usage - doesn't do anything with them, but flag whether present or not

14:07:29 <oedipus> SM: Tina that is valuable - application using Role attribute satisfies criteria; in past test has been - is it used in ML; not in any ML

Shane McCarron: Tina that is valuable - application using Role attribute satisfies criteria; in past test has been - is it used in ML; not in any ML

14:08:19 <oedipus> SP: 1 reason argued in past was all modules things tghat had been implemented; no new conformance criteria; creating module here and want ML that uses it, but can show semantics are being used

Steven Pemberton: 1 reason argued in past was all modules things tghat had been implemented; no new conformance criteria; creating module here and want ML that uses it, but can show semantics are being used

14:08:42 <oedipus> SP: close to way @class works; no pure semantics; can't test Role on its own, but can show it being used in other specificiations and implementations

Steven Pemberton: close to way @class works; no pure semantics; can't test Role on its own, but can show it being used in other specificiations and implementations

14:09:28 <oedipus> SP: need to state CR exit criteria; Role in and of itself doesn't require processing because hook for processing, but during CR will show being used in various pieces of software

Steven Pemberton: need to state CR exit criteria; Role in and of itself doesn't require processing because hook for processing, but during CR will show being used in various pieces of software

14:10:06 <oedipus> GJR: quote from ARIA spec: "2.1.  WAI-ARIA Roles

Gregory Rosmaita: quote from ARIA spec: "2.1. WAI-ARIA Roles

14:10:06 <oedipus> An ARIA role is set on an element using the a role attribute similar to the one defined in the XHTML Role Attribute Module [XHTML-ROLES].

An ARIA role is set on an element using the a role attribute similar to the one defined in the XHTML Role Attribute Module [XHTML-ROLES].

14:10:43 <oedipus> GJR: didn't catch "similar"

Gregory Rosmaita: didn't catch "similar"

14:11:25 <oedipus> ACTION: Gregory - ask PFWG why "similar" inserted into 2.1 of ARIA spec and answser to ShaneM's query about Role and ARIA

ACTION: Gregory - ask PFWG why "similar" inserted into 2.1 of ARIA spec and answser to ShaneM's query about Role and ARIA

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14:12:39 <oedipus> TOPIC: XHTML Basic 1.1 transition to PR

5. XHTML Basic 1.1 transition to PR

14:12:51 <oedipus> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/xhtml-m12n-11-implementation.html

http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/xhtml-m12n-11-implementation.html

14:13:22 <oedipus> SP: voting ends on 15 july - trying to drum up votes - IBM hasn't voted yet (nudge, nudge); neither have mobile people

Steven Pemberton: voting ends on 15 july - trying to drum up votes - IBM hasn't voted yet (nudge, nudge); neither have mobile people

14:14:58 <oedipus> SP: mobile best practices waiting for this so they can transition; can't ask for transition to rec until comments collected; asked if someone can take my role over for organizing transition; would write transition request and hand off to Francois Daoust; will probably take over team contact from me and request transition; will be on holiday

Steven Pemberton: mobile best practices waiting for this so they can transition; can't ask for transition to rec until comments collected; asked if someone can take my role over for organizing transition; would write transition request and hand off to Francois Daoust; will probably take over team contact from me and request transition; will be on holiday

14:16:10 <oedipus> SP: when voting ends on 15 july, will FD will transition - should be transitioned by second to last week of month

Steven Pemberton: when voting ends on 15 july, will FD will transition - should be transitioned by second to last week of month

14:16:42 <oedipus> TOPIC: M12N transition: status

6. M12N transition: status

14:17:04 <oedipus> RM: Shane, have you worked with IanJ on new shortnames?

Roland Merrick: Shane, have you worked with IanJ on new shortnames?

14:17:13 <oedipus> http://www.w3.org/2008/06/17-xhtml-minutes.html#action03

ACTION-03">http://www.w3.org/2008/06/17-xhtml-minutes.html#ACTION-03

14:18:11 <oedipus> SM: issues with XML Schema RDFa which uses M12n 1.1

Shane McCarron: issues with XML Schema RDFa which uses M12n 1.1

14:18:41 <oedipus> SM: made a few VERY minor changes to fix bug - not a normative change, just works around a bug to assist with validation

Shane McCarron: made a few VERY minor changes to fix bug - not a normative change, just works around a bug to assist with validation

14:18:47 <oedipus> http://www.w3.org/2008/06/17-xhtml-minutes.html#action03

ACTION-03">http://www.w3.org/2008/06/17-xhtml-minutes.html#ACTION-03

14:18:54 <oedipus> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/xhtml-m12n-11-implementation.html

http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/xhtml-m12n-11-implementation.html

14:18:59 <oedipus> SP: tested and works for me

Steven Pemberton: tested and works for me

14:19:15 <oedipus> SP: should test on IvanH's framework

Steven Pemberton: should test on IvanH's framework

14:19:52 <oedipus> SP: looking poor in terms of voting - voting ends 15 July 2008; need to solicit comments - please remind AC reps!!!

Steven Pemberton: looking poor in terms of voting - voting ends 15 July 2008; need to solicit comments - please remind AC reps!!!

14:20:30 <oedipus> SP: Alessio, can you make sure IWG votes on M12n and Basic?

Steven Pemberton: Alessio, can you make sure IWG votes on M12n and Basic?

14:20:34 <oedipus> Alessio: will do

Alessio Cartocci: will do

14:20:44 <oedipus> SP: RM, please make sure IBM votes

Steven Pemberton: RM, please make sure IBM votes

14:21:07 <oedipus> SM: Sun Microsystems obvious candidate;

Shane McCarron: Sun Microsystems obvious candidate;

14:21:10 <oedipus> SP: HP already voted

Steven Pemberton: HP already voted

14:21:39 <oedipus> GJR: can get Steve Faulkner of paciello group (member institution) to comment form accessibility POV

Gregory Rosmaita: can get Steve Faulkner of paciello group (member institution) to vote citing accessibility POV

14:22:01 <oedipus> SM: XForms - schema implementation, so votes would be good

Shane McCarron: XForms - schema implementation, so votes would be good

14:23:08 <oedipus> s/comment form/vote citing
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14:23:34 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/xhtmlmod11-2008/

Steven Pemberton: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/xhtmlmod11-2008/

14:26:14 <ShaneM> .me has not seen a response - could have missed it.  maybe only in the working group list?

Shane McCarron: .me has not seen a response - could have missed it. maybe only in the working group list?

14:28:03 <oedipus> next TOPIC: XHTML 1.1 SE status or RelaxNG and M12n

next TOPIC: XHTML 1.1 SE status or RelaxNG and M12n

14:29:20 <oedipus> SM: when preparing comments from HTML WG would be good to mention in draft, explaining media type application+xml is "HTML5"

Shane McCarron: when preparing comments from HTML WG would be good to mention in draft, explaining why media type application+xml is "XHTML5"

14:30:10 <ShaneM> s/HTML5/XHTML5/
14:30:18 <oedipus> s/explaining media type/explaining why media type
14:30:58 <Tina> Steven: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5/#html-vs

Steven Pemberton: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5/#html-vs [ Scribe Assist by Tina Holmboe ]

14:31:23 <oedipus> TOPIC: M12n redux

7. M12n and RelaxNG

14:31:25 <Steven> thanks

Steven Pemberton: thanks

14:32:12 <oedipus> SM: problem with XML Schema - reminded why RelaxNG better way going forward; m12n architecture assumes certain things about how one will extend module; RDF extends module in way that isn't consistent

Shane McCarron: problem with XML Schema - reminded why RelaxNG better way going forward; m12n architecture assumes certain things about how one will extend module; RDFa extends module in way that isn't consistent

14:32:15 <oedipus> SP: really?

Steven Pemberton: really?

14:32:28 <oedipus> SM: introduces attributes that are already on other elements in existing modules

Shane McCarron: introduces attributes that are already on other elements in existing modules

14:32:36 <oedipus> SP: @href everywhere issue

Steven Pemberton: @href everywhere issue

14:32:51 <oedipus> SM: avoided by not allowing @href everywhere

Shane McCarron: avoided by not allowing @href everywhere

14:33:03 <oedipus> SM: problem is: can't define an attribute twice

Shane McCarron: problem is: can't define an attribute twice

14:33:25 <oedipus> SM: if defined exactly same way twice, schema processor should recognize the union, but it doesn't

Shane McCarron: if defined exactly same way twice, schema processor should recognize the union, but it doesn't

14:33:37 <oedipus> SM: RelaxNG easily creates union;

Shane McCarron: RelaxNG easily creates union;

14:33:49 <oedipus> s/M12n redux/M12n and RelaxNG
14:33:56 <oedipus> SM: need to document this

Shane McCarron: need to document this

14:34:09 <oedipus> SM: don't use module implementation when collision

Shane McCarron: don't use module implementation when collision

14:34:50 <oedipus> SM: Link module - RDFa no longer contains link module - integrated in way that won't crash, which is legal (content model and how to extend and use subsets) but can't reuse this stuff

Shane McCarron: Link module - RDFa no longer contains link module - integrated in way that won't crash, which is legal (content model and how to extend and use subsets) but can't reuse this stuff

14:35:00 <oedipus> s/RDF extends/RDFa extends
14:35:35 <oedipus> SP: Schema should have forseen -- should be compatible with DTD and expect would perform union

Steven Pemberton: Schema should have forseen -- should be compatible with DTD and expect would perform union

14:35:53 <oedipus> SM: disappointing - strategies to accomodate such use, but didn't employ in basic def of module

Shane McCarron: disappointing - strategies to accomodate such use, but didn't employ in basic def of module

14:36:02 <oedipus> SP: so req for future versions of M12n

Steven Pemberton: so req for future versions of M12n

14:36:24 <oedipus> SM: if define attribute groups for every single attribute on every element, could do binding, but that is an extreme remedy

Shane McCarron: if define attribute groups for every single attribute on every element, could do binding, but that is an extreme remedy

14:36:50 <oedipus> TOPIC: XHTML 1.1 SE status

8. XHTML 1.1 SE status

14:37:12 <oedipus> RM: what to do with 1.1 SE versus 1.2 with extra features; wating for 1.1 m12n completion?

Roland Merrick: what to do with 1.1 SE versus 1.2 with extra features; wating for 1.1 m12n completion?

14:37:18 <oedipus> SM: yes, just schema implementation stuff

Shane McCarron: yes, just schema implementation stuff

14:37:28 <oedipus> SP: this is really a PER - nothing to argue about

Steven Pemberton: this is really a PER - nothing to argue about

14:37:34 <oedipus> SM: can't imagine there would be

Shane McCarron: can't imagine there would be

14:38:14 <oedipus> SP: add @target to 1.1 - would prefer not - those who need/want to use will have impetus to adapt 1.2

Steven Pemberton: add @target to 1.1 - would prefer not - those who need/want to use will have impetus to adapt 1.2

14:38:20 <oedipus> SM: put nothing in 1.1

Shane McCarron: put nothing in 1.1

14:38:38 <oedipus> SP: makes easier to get through to say 1.1 is just 1.1 with schemas; changes will be in 1.2

Steven Pemberton: makes easier to get through to say 1.1 is just 1.1 with schemas; changes will be in 1.2

14:38:42 <oedipus> RM: errata folded in?

Roland Merrick: errata folded in?

14:38:45 <oedipus> SM: no errata

Shane McCarron: no errata

14:39:05 <oedipus> SP: isn't there something Anne VanK objected to because didn't make change

Steven Pemberton: isn't there something Anne VanK objected to because didn't make change

14:39:27 <oedipus> SM: ID versus IDREF - client side image map - can change in future ML, but can't break conformance

Shane McCarron: ID versus IDREF - client side image map - can change in future ML, but can't break conformance

14:39:31 <oedipus> SP: so that's a 1.2 change

Steven Pemberton: so that's a 1.2 change

14:39:40 <oedipus> SM: right - notghing to do with 1.1 PER

Shane McCarron: right - notghing to do with 1.1 PER

14:39:52 <oedipus> RM: proposal for 1.2?

Roland Merrick: proposal for 1.2?

14:40:00 <oedipus> SP: need to agree which features to put in 1.2

Steven Pemberton: need to agree which features to put in 1.2

14:40:13 <oedipus> RM: thought SP had action to create first draft (listed in tracker)

Roland Merrick: thought SP had action to create first draft (listed in tracker)

14:40:35 <oedipus> GJR: so we are NOT adding @target to 1.1, right?

Gregory Rosmaita: so we are NOT adding @target to 1.1, right?

14:40:43 <oedipus> TOPIC: XHTML2 Public Draft

9. XHTML2 Public Draft

14:40:53 <oedipus> SM: closing in on it - should be available relatively soon

Shane McCarron: closing in on it - should be available relatively soon

14:41:04 <oedipus> RM: need XML Events 2 out the door?

Roland Merrick: need XML Events 2 out the door?

14:41:12 <oedipus> SM: references it, but not dependent on it

Shane McCarron: references it, but not dependent on it

14:41:25 <oedipus> RM: next call devote discussion on XML Events 2

Roland Merrick: next call devote discussion on XML Events 2

14:42:10 <oedipus> RM: timing issue and a few others to make sure comfortable with new draft of XML Events 2 - don't need to change draft to control timing mechanisms; registering and deregistering listeners

Roland Merrick: timing issue and a few others to make sure comfortable with new draft of XML Events 2 - don't need to change draft to control timing mechanisms; registering and deregistering listeners

14:42:21 <oedipus> TOPIC: Other Issues

10. Other Issues

14:42:28 <Zakim> -alessio

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14:42:29 <oedipus> SP: away for the next 3 calls

Steven Pemberton: away for the next 3 calls

14:42:40 <oedipus> RM: results of survey?

Roland Merrick: results of survey?

14:42:46 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/32107/xhtml2summer08/results

Steven Pemberton: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/32107/xhtml2summer08/results

14:43:16 <oedipus> SP: MarkB didn't reply

Steven Pemberton: MarkB didn't reply

14:43:20 <oedipus> RM: alright into august

Roland Merrick: alright into august

14:43:27 <oedipus> SP: will be back on 6 august

Steven Pemberton: will be back on 6 august

14:43:38 <oedipus> RM: will be away a month the following week

Roland Merrick: will be away a month the following week

14:43:46 <oedipus> RM: no need to cancel for next 4 weeks

Roland Merrick: no need to cancel for next 4 weeks

14:43:51 <oedipus> RM: other items?

Roland Merrick: other items?

14:44:00 <oedipus> ADJOURNED

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14:44:07 <Zakim> -Steven

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14:44:08 <Zakim> -Gregory_Rosmaita

Zakim IRC Bot: -Gregory_Rosmaita

14:44:08 <Zakim> -ShaneM

Zakim IRC Bot: -ShaneM

14:44:09 <Zakim> -Roland

Zakim IRC Bot: -Roland

14:44:09 <Zakim> -Tina

Zakim IRC Bot: -Tina

14:44:10 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has ended

14:44:12 <Zakim> Attendees were ShaneM, Roland, Tina, Gregory_Rosmaita, Steven, alessio

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were ShaneM, Roland, Tina, Gregory_Rosmaita, Steven, alessio

14:44:19 <oedipus> rrsagent, make minutes

rrsagent, make minutes

14:44:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/09-xhtml-minutes.html oedipus

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14:55:23 <oedipus> roland and/or steven, we never formally adopted the proposed resolution: "request Role Module transition to CR" - should i correct in minutes?  can insert resolution

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roland and/or steven, we never formally adopted the proposed resolution: "request Role Module transition to CR" - should i correct in minutes? can insert resolution

14:59:38 <oedipus> i/GJR: interested in shane's comment/RESOLVED: request Role Module transition to CR
14:59:44 <oedipus> rrsagent, make minutes

rrsagent, make minutes

14:59:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/09-xhtml-minutes.html oedipus

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/09-xhtml-minutes.html oedipus

15:07:25 <oedipus> rrsagent, make minutes

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rrsagent, make minutes

15:07:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/09-xhtml-minutes.html oedipus

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15:07:50 <oedipus> rrsagent, please part

rrsagent, please part

15:07:50 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/09-xhtml-actions.rdf :

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/09-xhtml-actions.rdf :

15:07:50 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Gregory - ask PFWG why "similar" inserted into 2.1 of ARIA spec and answser to ShaneM's query about Role and ARIA [1]

ACTION: Gregory - ask PFWG why "similar" inserted into 2.1 of ARIA spec and answser to ShaneM's query about Role and ARIA [1]

15:07:50 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/09-xhtml-irc#T14-11-25

RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/07/09-xhtml-irc#T14-11-25

15:21:31 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/07/09-xhtml-irc

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15:21:52 <oedipus> RESOLVED: request Role Module transition to CR

RESOLVED: request Role Module transition to CR

15:21:58 <oedipus> rrsagent, make minutes

rrsagent, make minutes

15:21:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/09-xhtml-minutes.html oedipus

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/07/09-xhtml-minutes.html oedipus

15:22:25 <oedipus> rrsagent, please part

rrsagent, please part

15:22:36 <oedipus> rrsagent, make logs public

rrsagent, make logs public

15:22:39 <oedipus> rrsagent, please part

rrsagent, please part

15:22:39 <RRSAgent> I see no action items

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