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XHTML Basic 1.1 CR Transition Call

Minutes of 12 July 2007

Agenda

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Team/w3t-ia/2007Jul/0037

Present

Unknown ChrisL, Unknown MikeSmith, Steven Pemberton, Steven Pemberton

Chair

Unknown ChrisL

Scribe

Steven Pemberton

IRC Log

Original

Resolutions

None.

Topics

Agenda
Evaluation of transition

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10:57:13 <Steven> zakim, this will be xhtml

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10:57:13 <Zakim> ok, Steven; I see HTML_(XHTML Basic)7:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes

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10:57:40 <Steven> Meeting: XHTML Basic 1.1 CR Transition Call

10:58:10 <ChrisL> Steven, on implementations: the oma results at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Team/w3t-archive/2007Jun/0389.html are enough to enter CR but not yet to leave it, right?

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Unknown ChrisL: Steven, on implementations: the oma results at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Team/w3t-archive/2007Jun/0389.html are enough to enter CR but not yet to leave it, right? ←

10:58:23 <Steven> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Team/w3t-ia/2007Jul/0037

10:58:29 <Steven> Steven has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Team/w3t-ia/2007Jul/0037

Steven Pemberton: Steven has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Team/w3t-ia/2007Jul/0037 ←

10:58:35 <ChrisL> and we need a summary document, linked from the CR, that explains the current state of implementations

Unknown ChrisL: and we need a summary document, linked from the CR, that explains the current state of implementations ←

10:59:00 <Steven> Chris, yes; you don't need test results to enter CR actually, but the tests are not yet good enough to leave

Steven Pemberton: Chris, yes; you don't need test results to enter CR actually, but the tests are not yet good enough to leave ←

10:59:11 <ChrisL> at least, the CR pubrules checker will ask where that document is ...

Unknown ChrisL: at least, the CR pubrules checker will ask where that document is ... ←

10:59:33 <ChrisL> you don't need a test suite. you do need an implementation report

Unknown ChrisL: you don't need a test suite. you do need an implementation report ←

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11:00:25 <MikeSmith> RRSAgent, please draft minutes

Unknown MikeSmith: RRSAgent, please draft minutes ←

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11:02:01 <Steven> Chair: ChrisL

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11:02:06 <Steven> Scribe: Steven

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11:02:16 <ChrisL> zakim, who is here?

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11:02:16 <Zakim> On the phone I see MikeSmith, Steven, ChrisL, Steve.a

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11:03:41 <MikeSmith> Present: ChrisL, MikeSmith, Steven, Steve

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11:03:52 <MikeSmith> Chair: ChrisL

11:04:04 <Steven> Topic: Agenda

1. Agenda

11:04:08 <Steven> Chris: OK?

Unknown ChrisL: OK? ←

11:04:10 <Steven> [yes]

[yes] ←

11:04:14 <MikeSmith> yep, got agenda

Unknown MikeSmith: yep, got agenda ←

11:04:19 <Steven> Topic: Evaluation of transition

2. Evaluation of transition

11:05:11 <Steven> Chris: Where are the cvhanges listed?

Unknown ChrisL: Where are the changes listed? ←

11:05:14 <Steven> Steven: In the abstract

Steven Pemberton: In the abstract ←

11:05:20 <Steven> s/cv/c/

11:05:35 <Steven> Steven: And there is a diff

Steven Pemberton: And there is a diff ←

11:05:52 <steve> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2007/ED-xhtml-basic-20070710/xhtml-basic-diff.html

http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2007/ED-xhtml-basic-20070710/xhtml-basic-diff.html ←

11:05:57 <ChrisL> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2007/ED-xhtml-basic-20070710/xhtml-basic-diff.html

Unknown ChrisL: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2007/ED-xhtml-basic-20070710/xhtml-basic-diff.html ←

11:06:43 <Steven> Steve: A change that needs to be made in in section 6

Steven Pemberton: A change that needs to be made in in section 6 ←

11:06:51 <Steven> ... wrong WG name

... wrong WG name ←

11:07:59 <Steven> Steven: Oh I see. Yes, there is a list that needs to be filled in; we can say that it was a different group

Steven Pemberton: Oh I see. Yes, there is a list that needs to be filled in; we can say that it was a different group ←

11:08:12 <Steven> ... and second edition should be version 1.1

... and second edition should be version 1.1 ←

11:08:20 <Zakim> -MikeSmith

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11:08:44 <Steven> Chris: Please list the group members in this version

Unknown ChrisL: Please list the group members in this version ←

11:09:19 <Steven> Steve: I don't see any other changes that need to be made

Steven Pemberton: I don't see any other changes that need to be made ←

11:09:30 <Steven> Chris: We are happy with the changes to the doc

Unknown ChrisL: We are happy with the changes to the doc ←

11:09:39 <ChrisL> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2007AprJun/0002

Unknown ChrisL: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2007AprJun/0002 ←

11:09:41 <Steven> ... now satisfying the group's requirements

... now satisfying the group's requirements ←

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11:13:17 <Steven> Steve: FOr my edification, elevator pitch?

Steven Pemberton: FOr my edification, elevator pitch? ←

11:13:30 <Steven> Steven [long elevator speech]

Steven [long elevator speech] ←

11:13:44 <Steven> Steven: Inputmode on forms input is the new thing

Steven Pemberton: Inputmode on forms input is the new thing ←

11:14:11 <billyjack> RRSAgent, please draft minutes

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11:14:30 <Steven> ... that will eb the gating factor on exiting CR

... that will eb the gating factor on exiting CR ←

11:14:59 <Steven> Chris: The requirements came from OMA, so I believe the requirements have been met, on HCG, and XHTML2 WG

Unknown ChrisL: The requirements came from OMA, so I believe the requirements have been met, on HCG, and XHTML2 WG ←

11:15:15 <Steven> Chris: Dependencies

Unknown ChrisL: Dependencies ←

11:15:21 <Steven> ... not many are affected by this

... not many are affected by this ←

11:15:34 <Steven> Steve: HTML WG was the only one that didn't look

Steven Pemberton: HTML WG was the only one that didn't look ←

11:15:44 <Steven> Chris: MWBP have looked, CDF too

Unknown ChrisL: MWBP have looked, CDF too ←

11:16:14 <Steven> Steve: Why CDF?

Steven Pemberton: Why CDF? ←

11:16:23 <Steven> Chris: they have a mobile profile

Unknown ChrisL: they have a mobile profile ←

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11:16:43 <ChrisL> disposition of comments

Unknown ChrisL: disposition of comments ←

11:16:53 <Steven> Steve: Where are the testfest results?

Steven Pemberton: Where are the testfest results? ←

11:16:59 <Steven> Chris: Here's a link

Unknown ChrisL: Here's a link ←

11:17:00 <ChrisL> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Team/w3t-archive/2007Jun/0389.html

Unknown ChrisL: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Team/w3t-archive/2007Jun/0389.html ←

11:17:37 <Steven> Chris: We need a summary for exiting CR

Unknown ChrisL: We need a summary for exiting CR ←

11:18:26 <Steven> Chris: Publrules checker says that there should be a link to an implementation report

Unknown ChrisL: Publrules checker says that there should be a link to an implementation report ←

11:18:30 <Steven> Steve: News to me

Steven Pemberton: News to me ←

11:18:44 <Steven> ... maybe an option

... maybe an option ←

11:18:54 <Steven> Chris: We can report on the ongoing work in any case

Unknown ChrisL: We can report on the ongoing work in any case ←

11:18:57 <steve> http://www.w3.org/2005/08/transition?docstatus=cr-tr

http://www.w3.org/2005/08/transition?docstatus=cr-tr ←

11:19:58 <Steven> Chris: Two paragraphs that summarises the implementation should be easy

Unknown ChrisL: Two paragraphs that summarises the implementation should be easy ←

11:20:37 <Steven> Steve: For now have an implementation report that summarises what we know, and link to that

Steven Pemberton: For now have an implementation report that summarises what we know, and link to that ←

11:21:10 <Steven> ... we shouldn't delay this for more than a day

... we shouldn't delay this for more than a day ←

11:21:22 <Steven> Chris: Disposition of comments

Unknown ChrisL: Disposition of comments ←

11:21:56 <ChrisL> lots of coordination, expected results, so not many comments during CR

Unknown ChrisL: lots of coordination, expected results, so not many comments during CR ←

11:21:56 <Steven> Steve: Why so few comments?

Steven Pemberton: Why so few comments? ←

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11:22:39 <Steven> Steven: Well we just included modules that went through last call before

Steven Pemberton: Well we just included modules that went through last call before ←

11:22:51 <Steven> ... so there was nothing much to comment on

... so there was nothing much to comment on ←

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11:23:13 <Steven> Chris: Exit criteria

Unknown ChrisL: Exit criteria ←

11:24:08 <ChrisL> Since this specification represents an incremental improvement to its predecessor, and since there is already substantial implementation experience in the small-device marketplace, we expect to have adequate testing and validation before the end of the CR period. While we welcome implementation experience reports, the XHTML2 Working Group will not allow early implementation to constrain its ability to make changes to this specification prior to final release.

Unknown ChrisL: Since this specification represents an incremental improvement to its predecessor, and since there is already substantial implementation experience in the small-device marketplace, we expect to have adequate testing and validation before the end of the CR period. While we welcome implementation experience reports, the XHTML2 Working Group will not allow early implementation to constrain its ability to make changes to this specification prior to final release. ←

11:24:42 <Steven> Steve: The exit criteria should be in the status

Steven Pemberton: The exit criteria should be in the status ←

11:24:57 <ChrisL> two implementations of each feature

Unknown ChrisL: two implementations of each feature ←

11:25:06 <ChrisL> Steve: optional features?

Steven Pemberton: optional features? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown ChrisL ] ←

11:25:22 <ChrisL> Dan thinks optional features must be exercised

Unknown ChrisL: Dan thinks optional features must be exercised ←

11:25:51 <Steven> Steve: Usually two implementations of required features, and one of optional

Steven Pemberton: Usually two implementations of required features, and one of optional ←

11:25:58 <MikeSmith> Steven : inputmode is allowed to be ignored ... but DanC is of the opinion that we should have an [one or more] implementation of it.

Unknown MikeSmith: Steven : inputmode is allowed to be ignored ... but DanC is of the opinion that we should have an [one or more] implementation of it. ←

11:26:07 <Steven> Steve: That is the normal proctice

Steven Pemberton: That is the normal proctice ←

11:26:24 <ChrisL> two implementations od all mandatory features. one, or two, for optional?

Unknown ChrisL: two implementations od all mandatory features. one, or two, for optional? ←

11:26:36 <MikeSmith> I want to note just for the record that inputmode is important for Japan

Unknown MikeSmith: I want to note just for the record that inputmode is important for Japan ←

11:26:51 <MikeSmith> ... or the function that inputmode enables is important

Unknown MikeSmith: ... or the function that inputmode enables is important ←

11:27:26 <MikeSmith> I think inputmode is implemented in Openwave's browser

Unknown MikeSmith: I think inputmode is implemented in Openwave's browser ←

11:27:35 <MikeSmith> and possibly also in Access NetFront

Unknown MikeSmith: and possibly also in Access NetFront ←

11:27:40 <Steven> Steven: I'm not aware of implementations, but that doesn't mean they don't exist

Steven Pemberton: I'm not aware of implementations, but that doesn't mean they don't exist ←

11:27:51 <Steven> Chris: CDF tests for it, so I think there are implementations

Unknown ChrisL: CDF tests for it, so I think there are implementations ←

11:28:38 <MikeSmith> WML had the "format" attribute for enabling same behavior as inputmode

Unknown MikeSmith: WML had the "format" attribute for enabling same behavior as inputmode ←

11:30:13 <MikeSmith> I think Yamakami-san might be one person who can provide info about inputmode implementations.

Unknown MikeSmith: I think Yamakami-san might be one person who can provide info about inputmode implementations. ←

11:30:38 <Steven> [Discussion of whether inputmode was 'at risk']

[Discussion of whether inputmode was 'at risk'] ←

11:31:06 <Steven> ACTION: Steven ensure exit criteria added to status

ACTION: Steven ensure exit criteria added to status ←

11:31:54 <Steven> Steve: ANy problems with the object patent?

Steven Pemberton: ANy problems with the object patent? ←

11:32:16 <Steven> Chris: No, they can do the same thing that desktop browsers

Unknown ChrisL: No, they can do the same thing that desktop browsers ←

11:32:30 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to create implementation report and link to it

ACTION: Steven to create implementation report and link to it ←

11:32:42 <Steven> ACTION: Steven add list of members, and change name of group in section 6

ACTION: Steven add list of members, and change name of group in section 6 ←

11:32:50 <Steven> Steve: I approve CR entry!

Steven Pemberton: I approve CR entry! ←

11:33:18 <Steven> Steve: We need to work faster with this sort of meeting in the future

Steven Pemberton: We need to work faster with this sort of meeting in the future ←

11:33:34 <MikeSmith> q+ to ask about CR

Unknown MikeSmith: q+ to ask about CR ←

11:33:57 <MikeSmith> q+ to ask suggest we aim to have the shortest possible CR we can

Unknown MikeSmith: q+ to ask suggest we aim to have the shortest possible CR we can ←

11:34:34 <ChrisL> the cr needs to state a minimum date.

Unknown ChrisL: the cr needs to state a minimum date. ←

11:34:40 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to add date on CR exit

ACTION: Steven to add date on CR exit ←

11:34:43 <ChrisL> ack mike

Unknown ChrisL: ack mike ←

11:34:43 <Zakim> MikeSmith, you wanted to ask about CR and to ask suggest we aim to have the shortest possible CR we can

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11:36:36 <ChrisL> most recet oma test fest report i have is 15 June 2006 ... there must be a more recent one

Unknown ChrisL: most recet oma test fest report i have is 15 June 2006 ... there must be a more recent one ←

11:37:18 <Steven> Yes, there is a Feb/March 2007 one

Yes, there is a Feb/March 2007 one ←

11:37:44 <Steven> Steve: Let us then say the minimum period is end of August

Steven Pemberton: Let us then say the minimum period is end of August ←

11:37:53 <Steven> ... saying the minimum is sufficient

... saying the minimum is sufficient ←

11:38:22 <ChrisL> "What is the minimal duration of the CR period? Estimate of how long it will take before requesting PR?"

Unknown ChrisL: "What is the minimal duration of the CR period? Estimate of how long it will take before requesting PR?" ←

11:38:31 <ChrisL> http://www.w3.org/2005/08/transition?docstatus=cr-tr

Unknown ChrisL: http://www.w3.org/2005/08/transition?docstatus=cr-tr ←

11:38:53 <Steven> Mike: The CR period needs to be short as possible, and we need to chase OMA to do the tests

Unknown MikeSmith: The CR period needs to be short as possible, and we need to chase OMA to do the tests ←

11:39:40 <Steven> Chris: We can estimate November as th etime to end, and give a shorter minimum

Unknown ChrisL: We can estimate November as th etime to end, and give a shorter minimum ←

11:40:34 <Steven> Steve: Fine by me if you want to put both dates in

Steven Pemberton: Fine by me if you want to put both dates in ←

11:40:56 <MikeSmith> So I want to just note for the record that due to Best Practices dependencies, we want to escalate transition of the this document through all stages as much as possible.

Unknown MikeSmith: So I want to just note for the record that due to Best Practices dependencies, we want to escalate transition of the this document through all stages as much as possible. ←

11:40:57 <Steven> ... put 31 Aug as minimum date and November as expected date

... put 31 Aug as minimum date and November as expected date ←

11:41:26 <Steven> Steve: MIke, remind me of the comittment of OMA?

Steven Pemberton: MIke, remind me of the comittment of OMA? ←

11:41:37 <Steven> Mike: They are going to drop mobile profile and refernce Basic

Unknown MikeSmith: They are going to drop mobile profile and refernce Basic ←

11:41:53 <Steven> Steve: DO we have that in writing?

Steven Pemberton: Do we have that in writing? ←

11:42:02 <Steven> Chris: Never seen it in writing

Unknown ChrisL: Never seen it in writing ←

11:42:07 <Steven> s/DO/Do/

11:42:27 <Steven> Mike: No

Unknown MikeSmith: No ←

11:42:39 <Steven> Steve: Was there a meeting with a record where they said that?

Steven Pemberton: Was there a meeting with a record where they said that? ←

11:42:45 <Steven> Mike: I can't point to one

Unknown MikeSmith: I can't point to one ←

11:42:49 <ChrisL> perhaps in the hypertext cg

Unknown ChrisL: perhaps in the hypertext cg ←

11:43:00 <Steven> Steve: OK, not criticl for this call

Steven Pemberton: OK, not criticl for this call ←

11:43:15 <Steven> Chris: I will try and get Bennett Marks to say that at HCG

Unknown ChrisL: I will try and get Bennett Marks to say that at HCG ←

11:43:28 <ChrisL> discuss in hcg after it goes to cr, get an agreement on the record from oma

Unknown ChrisL: discuss in hcg after it goes to cr, get an agreement on the record from oma ←

11:43:52 <Steven> Steve: Home page news? Expecting press?

Steven Pemberton: Home page news? Expecting press? ←

11:44:01 <Steven> Steven: I'm not expecting press

Steven Pemberton: I'm not expecting press ←

11:44:12 <ChrisL> It would be good to have the elevator speech somewhere - so comm has access to it for example

Unknown ChrisL: It would be good to have the elevator speech somewhere - so comm has access to it for example ←

11:44:23 <Steven> Steve: We should have a plan for a press-release, joint with OMA when we go to Rec

Steven Pemberton: We should have a plan for a press-release, joint with OMA when we go to Rec ←

11:44:26 <ChrisL> joint press release with oma for rec

Unknown ChrisL: joint press release with oma for rec ←

11:44:46 <Steven> ACTION: Chris to talk to Comm about press release for XHTML Basic when it goes to rec

ACTION: Chris to talk to Comm about press release for XHTML Basic when it goes to rec ←

11:45:15 <Steven> Steve: When will the document actions be done?

Steven Pemberton: When will the document actions be done? ←

11:45:45 <Steven> Steven: Depending on Shane's availability

Steven Pemberton: Depending on Shane's availability ←

11:45:50 <Steven> ... today or tomorrow

... today or tomorrow ←

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11:45:55 <Zakim> -Steven

Zakim IRC Bot: -Steven ←

11:45:57 <MikeSmith> thanks and sorry for the noise ...

Unknown MikeSmith: thanks and sorry for the noise ... ←

11:46:04 <Zakim> -??P0

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11:46:05 <Zakim> HTML_(XHTML Basic)7:00AM has ended

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11:46:07 <Zakim> Attendees were Steven, MikeSmith, ChrisL, Steve, [IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Steven, MikeSmith, ChrisL, Steve, [IPcaller] ←

11:46:28 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes

rrsagent, make minutes ←

11:46:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/07/12-xhtml-minutes.html Steven

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11:46:50 <steve> Steven?

Steven? ←

11:46:55 <steve> Forgot to mention...

Forgot to mention... ←

11:47:17 <steve> please send minutes of this meeting to all participants, with cc to w3t-archive (and probably ia too)

please send minutes of this meeting to all participants, with cc to w3t-archive (and probably ia too) ←

11:47:19 <steve> ok?

ok? ←

11:47:23 <steve> or Chris

or Chris ←

11:47:30 <ChrisL> yes, steve

Unknown ChrisL: yes, steve ←

11:47:34 <steve> thanks

thanks ←

11:47:36 <ChrisL> rrsagent, make minutes

Unknown ChrisL: rrsagent, make minutes ←

11:47:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/07/12-xhtml-minutes.html ChrisL

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11:51:20 <Steven> ok Steve

ok Steve ←

12:08:28 <ChrisL> steven, i sent out the minutes since you mentioned you were running between meetings

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12:13:07 <Steven> AH, OK, I was editing them

AH, OK, I was editing them ←

12:14:36 <ChrisL> ok, feel free to send out revised ones. please use the same distribution, though - including w3t-ia, team-mwi , w3t-archive, ian, steve

Unknown ChrisL: ok, feel free to send out revised ones. please use the same distribution, though - including w3t-ia, team-mwi , w3t-archive, ian, steve ←

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