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14:59:42 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277
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14:59:42 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute
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14:59:43 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
14:59:43 <trackbot> Date: 27 November 2012
14:59:44 <LeeF> zakim, this will be SPARQL
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15:01:49 <LeeF> LeeF has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0176.html
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15:01:52 <Zakim> +Sandro
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15:01:55 <LeeF> zakim, who's on the phone?
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15:01:55 <Zakim> On the phone I see AndyS, cbuilara (muted), kasei (muted), bglimm, LeeF, Sandro
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15:03:06 <AndyS> zakim, P27 is SteveH
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15:03:07 <LeeF> topic: Admin
15:03:12 <LeeF> PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-11-20
PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-11-20 ←
15:03:46 <LeeF> RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-11-20
RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2012-11-20 ←
15:03:52 <Zakim> +MattPerry
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15:03:59 <LeeF> Regrets: AxelPolleres, Bglimm (partial)
Scribe problem: the name 'Bglimm (partial)' does not match any of the 65 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Ahmed Ezzat Alberto Labarga Alexandre Passant Andrea Westerinen Andrei Lopatenko Andy Seaborne Arthur Keen Axel Polleres Bijan Parsia Birte Glimm Bryan Thompson Carlos Buil Aranda Chimezie Ogbuji Cui Tao Daniel Schutzer Dave Beckett David Charboneau David Newman Davide Palmisano Dhanapalan Kulandai Vadivel Dirk Colaert Dirk-Willem van Gulik Edward Thomas Elias Torres Enrico Franconi Eric Prud'hommeaux Frank Careccia Fred Zemke Gregory Williams Hiroyuki Sato Iker Huerga Ivan Mikhailov Jacek Kopecký Jari Vänttinen Jean-François Baget Jean-Pierre EVAIN Jeen Broekstra Jeff Pollock John Clark Jos De Roo Kendall Clark Kevin Wilkinson Lee Feigenbaum Matthew Perry Michael Smith Michele Minno Nico Michaelis Nophadol Jekjantuk Olivier Corby Orri Erling Paula Gearon Prateek Jain Rachel Yager Roland Schwaenzl Sandro Hawke Sergio Tessaris Simon Johnston Souripriya Das Steve Harris Sven Groppe Thomas Visel Timo Westkämper Tommi Koivula Umberto Straccia Yoshio Fukushige
15:04:16 <Zakim> +Chimezie
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15:04:25 <LeeF> Next meeting is December 4th, same time
Lee Feigenbaum: Next meeting is December 4th, same time ←
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15:04:51 <LeeF> topic: Entailment Regimes
15:05:02 <LeeF> close ACTION-721
Lee Feigenbaum: close ACTION-721 ←
15:05:02 <trackbot> ACTION-721 Make a list of unapproved Entailment test cases passed by at least two implementations. closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-721 Make a list of unapproved Entailment test cases passed by at least two implementations. closed ←
15:05:18 <LeeF> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0159.html
Lee Feigenbaum: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0159.html ←
15:05:43 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/implementations/#sparql11-entailment
Lee Feigenbaum: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/implementations/#sparql11-entailment ←
15:05:50 <bglimm> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/implementations/#sparql11-entailment
Birte Glimm: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/implementations/#sparql11-entailment ←
15:07:27 <LeeF> PROPOSED: Approve all tests listed in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0159.html
PROPOSED: Approve all tests listed in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0159.html ←
15:07:31 <LeeF> LeeF: Any new EARL?
Lee Feigenbaum: Any new EARL? [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
15:07:32 <bglimm> +1
Birte Glimm: +1 ←
15:07:38 <LeeF> bglimm: yes, but we can approve mroe tests next week
Birte Glimm: yes, but we can approve mroe tests next week [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
15:07:44 <chimezie> +1
Chimezie Ogbuji: +1 ←
15:07:48 <LeeF> LeeF: does list only include tests not approved so far?
Lee Feigenbaum: does list only include tests not approved so far? [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
15:07:50 <LeeF> bglimm: yes
Birte Glimm: yes [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
15:08:04 <kasei> 0 (not swapped in)
Gregory Williams: 0 (not swapped in) ←
15:08:12 <LeeF> RESOLVED: Approve all tests listed in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0159.html
RESOLVED: Approve all tests listed in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0159.html ←
15:08:31 <LeeF> ACTION: Birte to mark tests in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0159.html as approved
ACTION: Birte to mark tests in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0159.html as approved ←
15:08:31 <trackbot> Created ACTION-722 - Mark tests in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0159.html as approved [on Birte Glimm - due 2012-12-04].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-722 - Mark tests in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0159.html as approved [on Birte Glimm - due 2012-12-04]. ←
15:09:20 <chimezie> Zakim, unmute me
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15:09:21 <Zakim> +pgearon
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15:11:16 <bglimm> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0181.html
Birte Glimm: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0181.html ←
15:11:25 <bglimm> Now my mail is in the archive, see above
Birte Glimm: Now my mail is in the archive, see above ←
15:11:28 <LeeF> bglimm: in communication with several implementers about the vcarious "at risk" entailment regimes, hoping to get results within the next couple of weeks so we can make final decision on at-risk sections
Birte Glimm: in communication with several implementers about the vcarious "at risk" entailment regimes, hoping to get results within the next couple of weeks so we can make final decision on at-risk sections [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
15:12:11 <LeeF> topic: entailment regimes
Summary: Approve more tests based on updated EARL next week; continue to closely monitor implementers' progress on at-risk sections
15:12:29 <LeeF> summary: Approve more tests based on updated EARL next week; continue to closely monitor implementers' progress on at-risk sections
15:12:30 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me
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15:12:38 <LeeF> topic: Graph-store Protocol
Summary: We believe GSP to now be in a steady state with respect to advancing to PR
15:12:49 <LeeF> close ACTION-717
Lee Feigenbaum: close ACTION-717 ←
15:12:49 <trackbot> ACTION-717 Prepare a list of tst cases from http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/http-rdf-update/ by next Telco which at least 2implementations pass. closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-717 Prepare a list of tst cases from http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/http-rdf-update/ by next Telco which at least 2implementations pass. closed ←
15:13:08 <LeeF> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0174.html
Lee Feigenbaum: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0174.html ←
15:13:36 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/implementations/#sparql11-http-rdf-update
Lee Feigenbaum: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/implementations/#sparql11-http-rdf-update ←
15:14:07 <LeeF> Chime's list of tests is based on correspondence with Andy + existing EARL from Akamu
Lee Feigenbaum: Chime's list of tests is based on correspondence with Andy + existing EARL from Akamu ←
15:14:34 <LeeF> LeeF: Andy, are you ok with the tests?
Lee Feigenbaum: Andy, are you ok with the tests? [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
15:14:40 <LeeF> AndyS: Yes, AND I pass them
Andy Seaborne: Yes, AND I pass them [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
15:14:57 <LeeF> PROPOSED: Approve GSP tests listed in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0174.html
PROPOSED: Approve GSP tests listed in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0174.html ←
15:15:08 <kasei> +1
Gregory Williams: +1 ←
15:15:27 <AndyS> +1
Andy Seaborne: +1 ←
15:15:29 <pgearon> +1
Paula Gearon: +1 ←
15:15:31 <LeeF> RESOLVED: Approve GSP tests listed in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0174.html
RESOLVED: Approve GSP tests listed in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0174.html ←
15:15:42 <LeeF> ACTION: chimezie to mark tests in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0174.html as approved
ACTION: chimezie to mark tests in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0174.html as approved ←
15:15:42 <trackbot> Created ACTION-723 - Mark tests in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0174.html as approved [on Chimezie Ogbuji - due 2012-12-04].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-723 - Mark tests in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2012OctDec/0174.html as approved [on Chimezie Ogbuji - due 2012-12-04]. ←
15:16:00 <Zakim> -bglimm
Zakim IRC Bot: -bglimm ←
15:16:05 <LeeF> LeeF: Any expectations of additional implementations in the next week or two?
Lee Feigenbaum: Any expectations of additional implementations in the next week or two? [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
15:16:16 <LeeF> chimezie: I don't believe so, only possible one would be Callimachus, but unlikely
Chimezie Ogbuji: I don't believe so, only possible one would be Callimachus, but unlikely [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
15:17:52 <LeeF> LeeF: What's the status with the 3 tests that Akamu is not passing?
Lee Feigenbaum: What's the status with the 3 tests that Akamu is not passing? [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
15:17:56 <LeeF> chimezie: they all deal with empty graphs
Chimezie Ogbuji: they all deal with empty graphs [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
15:18:12 <LeeF> LeeF: is this an issue for us with respect to spec conformance?
Lee Feigenbaum: is this an issue for us with respect to spec conformance? [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
15:18:44 <LeeF> http-rdf-update/manifest#get_of_put__empty_graph
Lee Feigenbaum: http-rdf-update/manifest#get_of_put__empty_graph ←
15:19:53 <LeeF> chimezie: GSP refers developers to Update for treatment of empty graphs
Chimezie Ogbuji: GSP refers developers to Update for treatment of empty graphs [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
15:20:08 <LeeF> chimezie: empty graphs are not a feature of GSP, as notion of empty graph doesn't make sense in all cases for HTTP
Chimezie Ogbuji: empty graphs are not a feature of GSP, as notion of empty graph doesn't make sense in all cases for HTTP [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
15:20:38 <LeeF> LeeF: As long as there are not specific conformance criteria in GSP that these tests line up with, let's leave them unapproved
Lee Feigenbaum: As long as there are not specific conformance criteria in GSP that these tests line up with, let's leave them unapproved [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
15:20:40 <LeeF> sandro: I agree
Sandro Hawke: I agree [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
15:21:39 <LeeF> summary: We believe GSP to now be in a steady state with respect to advancing to PR
15:22:15 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me
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15:22:15 <Zakim> Chimezie should now be muted
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15:22:19 <kasei> Zakim, unmute me
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15:22:19 <Zakim> kasei should no longer be muted
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15:22:20 <LeeF> topic: protocol
15:23:04 <kasei> Zakim, mute me
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15:23:07 <LeeF> LeeF: Confirm that we have no additioanl expectation of tests to approve or new implementation reports for protocol in the next couple of weeks?
Lee Feigenbaum: Confirm that we have no additioanl expectation of tests to approve or new implementation reports for protocol in the next couple of weeks? [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
15:23:10 <LeeF> kasei: i believe that is correct
Gregory Williams: i believe that is correct [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
15:23:23 <LeeF> topic: update
15:23:45 <LeeF> ACTION-720?
15:23:45 <trackbot> ACTION-720 -- Paul Gearon to write a mail summarizing unapproved update test cases -- due 2012-11-27 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-720 -- Paul Gearon to write a mail summarizing unapproved update test cases -- due 2012-11-27 -- OPEN ←
15:23:45 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/720
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/720 ←
15:24:59 <LeeF> LeeF: Any chance to complete ACTION-720 this week?
Lee Feigenbaum: Any chance to complete ACTION-720 this week? [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
15:25:01 <LeeF> pgearon: unlikely
Paula Gearon: unlikely [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
15:25:14 <LeeF> LeeF: we should look for someone else - is this about the tests that did not make it into the test suite before the PR vote for Update?
Lee Feigenbaum: we should look for someone else - is this about the tests that did not make it into the test suite before the PR vote for Update? [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
15:25:16 <LeeF> pgearon: I think so
Paula Gearon: I think so [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
15:25:55 <LeeF> ACTION: Lee to talk to Axel about taking care of unapproved tests for update
ACTION: Lee to talk to Axel about taking care of unapproved tests for update ←
15:25:55 <trackbot> Created ACTION-724 - Talk to Axel about taking care of unapproved tests for update [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2012-12-04].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-724 - Talk to Axel about taking care of unapproved tests for update [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2012-12-04]. ←
15:27:18 <LeeF> ericP, can you join us?
Lee Feigenbaum: ericP, can you join us? ←
15:27:52 <LeeF> <ericP> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/delete/manifest#dawg-delete-07 says that the result is delete-post-01f.ttl
Lee Feigenbaum: <ericP> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/delete/manifest#dawg-delete-07 says that the result is delete-post-01f.ttl ←
15:27:52 <LeeF> <ericP> i can't justify that, but i can if it's delete-post-01s.ttl
Lee Feigenbaum: <ericP> i can't justify that, but i can if it's delete-post-01s.ttl ←
15:29:05 <kasei> details are here: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/summary.html#delete-dawg-delete-07
Gregory Williams: details are here: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/summary.html#delete-dawg-delete-07 ←
15:29:28 <Zakim> +EricP
Zakim IRC Bot: +EricP ←
15:31:27 <LeeF> LeeF: test delete-07 is as is because ?p and ?o are unbound so nothing is deleted
Lee Feigenbaum: test delete-07 is as is because ?p and ?o are unbound so nothing is deleted [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
15:31:43 <LeeF> AndyS: if it was "DELETE WHERE { ... } " then it would do as you say, Eric, but it's not
Andy Seaborne: if it was "DELETE WHERE { ... } " then it would do as you say, Eric, but it's not [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
15:31:49 <LeeF> ericP: OK
Eric Prud'hommeaux: OK [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
15:35:02 <LeeF> (discussion of trailing zeroes in decimals)
Lee Feigenbaum: (discussion of trailing zeroes in decimals) ←
15:35:30 <ericP> aggregates/agg-avg-02.srx <literal datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#decimal">2.0</literal>
Eric Prud'hommeaux: aggregates/agg-avg-02.srx <literal datatype="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#decimal">2.0</literal> ←
15:35:39 <LeeF> LeeF: ericP, will you have EARL for us in the near future?
Lee Feigenbaum: ericP, will you have EARL for us in the near future? [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
15:35:42 <LeeF> ericP: yes
Eric Prud'hommeaux: yes [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
15:35:46 <LeeF> LeeF: for which parts of SPARQL 1.1?
Lee Feigenbaum: for which parts of SPARQL 1.1? [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
15:36:20 <LeeF> ericP: query, update, CSV/TSV, JSON
Eric Prud'hommeaux: query, update, CSV/TSV, JSON [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
15:36:59 <chimezie> Zakim, unmute me
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15:37:50 <chimezie> http://metacognition.info/gsp_validation/gsp.validator.form (GSP validator)
Chimezie Ogbuji: http://metacognition.info/gsp_validation/gsp.validator.form (GSP validator) ←
15:37:53 <kasei> oops. I broke the protocol validator.
Gregory Williams: oops. I broke the protocol validator. ←
15:38:04 <kasei> when I fix it momentarily, it will be here: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/protocol_validator
Gregory Williams: when I fix it momentarily, it will be here: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/protocol_validator ←
15:38:16 <chimezie> Conneg on request to get back EARL
Chimezie Ogbuji: Conneg on request to get back EARL ←
15:39:51 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me
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15:39:51 <Zakim> Chimezie should now be muted
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15:41:29 <LeeF> (regular monthly discussion of the vagaries of RDF Datasets in SPARQL and the divide in the world beyond "graph names are entries in a database" and "graph names are GETtable documentnames")
Lee Feigenbaum: (regular monthly discussion of the vagaries of RDF Datasets in SPARQL and the divide in the world beyond "graph names are entries in a database" and "graph names are GETtable documentnames") ←
15:43:28 <AndyS> I object to "vagaries" when it's intentional not about loading or finding - it's declarative of what it looks like.
Andy Seaborne: I object to "vagaries" when it's intentional not about loading or finding - it's declarative of what it looks like. ←
15:43:47 <LeeF> Things can be intentionally vague.
Lee Feigenbaum: Things can be intentionally vague. ←
15:44:20 <AndyS> Not "vague" - intentionally not part of.
Andy Seaborne: Not "vague" - intentionally not part of. ←
15:46:02 <LeeF> Andy, I'm not sure what I said that riled you. I think SPARQL is -- and always has been - vague on this topic, particularly when combining what's in the specs with what's in the test suite and the different ways things are handled in implementations. In any case, I'm happy to withdraw my comment(s) from the record if you object to them.
Lee Feigenbaum: Andy, I'm not sure what I said that riled you. I think SPARQL is -- and always has been - vague on this topic, particularly when combining what's in the specs with what's in the test suite and the different ways things are handled in implementations. In any case, I'm happy to withdraw my comment(s) from the record if you object to them. ←
15:49:26 <LeeF> (discussion of what to do about the decimal values)
Lee Feigenbaum: (discussion of what to do about the decimal values) ←
15:49:35 <AndyS> While I have some sympathy with EricP's position, I think we need to recognize that there are XSD 1.0 implementations as well.
Andy Seaborne: While I have some sympathy with EricP's position, I think we need to recognize that there are XSD 1.0 implementations as well. ←
15:49:39 <LeeF> LeeF: not sure we have anyone in the WG wanting to make this change now and re-visit the tests
Lee Feigenbaum: not sure we have anyone in the WG wanting to make this change now and re-visit the tests [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
15:49:57 <LeeF> sandro: perhaps a CG or some other body could take over SPARQL test suite maintenance going forwards
Sandro Hawke: perhaps a CG or some other body could take over SPARQL test suite maintenance going forwards [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
15:54:26 <LeeF> ericP: I think we could do this now without re-running everyone's tests
Eric Prud'hommeaux: I think we could do this now without re-running everyone's tests [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
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15:55:26 <Zakim> -Sandro
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15:55:32 <LeeF> LeeF: i'm just not totally comfortable with that, sorry
Lee Feigenbaum: i'm just not totally comfortable with that, sorry [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←
15:55:36 <LeeF> Adjourned.
Lee Feigenbaum: Adjourned. ←
15:55:42 <LeeF> RRSAgent, make logs public
Lee Feigenbaum: RRSAgent, make logs public ←
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15:55:44 <Zakim> Attendees were AndyS, cbuilara, +1.310.729.aaaa, kasei, bglimm, +1.617.553.aabb, LeeF, Sandro, SteveH, MattPerry, Chimezie, pgearon, EricP
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were AndyS, cbuilara, +1.310.729.aaaa, kasei, bglimm, +1.617.553.aabb, LeeF, Sandro, SteveH, MattPerry, Chimezie, pgearon, EricP ←
15:58:37 <LeeF> sandro, any idea why https://cgi.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/index.php?title=Chatlog_2012-11-27&redirect=no is giving me 404 after doing https://cgi.w3.org/member-bin/wiki_scribe?group=sparql&go=Use+This+Group seemed ok?
Lee Feigenbaum: sandro, any idea why https://cgi.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/index.php?title=Chatlog_2012-11-27&redirect=no is giving me 404 after doing https://cgi.w3.org/member-bin/wiki_scribe?group=sparql&go=Use+This+Group seemed ok? ←
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