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SPARQL Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 27 September 2011

Agenda
http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2011-09-27
Seen
Andy Seaborne, Axel Polleres, Carlos Buil Aranda, Chimezie Ogbuji, Gregory Williams, Lee Feigenbaum, Matthew Perry, Olivier Corby, Paula Gearon, Sandro Hawke, Steve Harris
Chair
Lee Feigenbaum
Scribe
Carlos Buil Aranda
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-09-20 link
Topics
13:57:40 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/09/27-sparql-irc

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13:57:49 <AndyS> zakim, this is SPARQL

Andy Seaborne: zakim, this is SPARQL ←

13:57:49 <Zakim> AndyS, I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM in the schedule but not yet started.  Perhaps you mean "this will be SPARQL".

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13:57:56 <AndyS> zakim, this will be SPARQL

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13:57:56 <Zakim> ok, AndyS; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes

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13:58:13 <LeeF> trackbot, start meeting

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, start meeting ←

13:58:15 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world

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13:58:17 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277

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13:58:17 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes

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13:58:18 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
13:58:18 <trackbot> Date: 27 September 2011
13:58:27 <LeeF> zakim, this will be SPARQL

Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, this will be SPARQL ←

13:58:27 <Zakim> ok, LeeF; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes

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13:58:54 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has now started

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13:59:01 <Zakim> +??P3

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13:59:05 <AndyS> zakim, ??P3 is me

Andy Seaborne: zakim, ??P3 is me ←

13:59:05 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it

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13:59:10 <Zakim> + +1.310.729.aaaa

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13:59:16 <kasei> Zakim, aaaa is me

Gregory Williams: Zakim, aaaa is me ←

13:59:16 <Zakim> +kasei; got it

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13:59:56 <Zakim> +??P7

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14:00:01 <cbuilara> zakim, ??P7 is me

Carlos Buil Aranda: zakim, ??P7 is me ←

14:00:01 <Zakim> +cbuilara; got it

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14:00:02 <Zakim> + +1.617.553.aabb

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14:00:07 <LeeF> zakim, aabb is me

Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, aabb is me ←

14:00:07 <Zakim> +LeeF; got it

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14:00:12 <LeeF> Chair: LeeF
14:00:14 <Zakim> +Bert

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14:00:16 <LeeF> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2011-09-27
14:00:35 <Zakim> + +1.603.897.aacc

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14:00:46 <LeeF> zakim, Bert is Olivier

Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, Bert is Olivier ←

14:00:46 <Zakim> +Olivier; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Olivier; got it ←

14:00:47 <mperry> zakim, aacc is me

Matthew Perry: zakim, aacc is me ←

14:00:48 <Zakim> +mperry; got it

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14:00:52 <LeeF> zakim, who's on the phone?

Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, who's on the phone? ←

14:00:52 <Zakim> On the phone I see AndyS, kasei, cbuilara, LeeF, Olivier, mperry

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see AndyS, kasei, cbuilara, LeeF, Olivier, mperry ←

14:01:25 <LeeF> Scribenick: cbuilara

(Scribe set to Carlos Buil Aranda)

14:02:26 <cbuilara> zakim, mute me

zakim, mute me ←

14:02:26 <Zakim> cbuilara should now be muted

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14:02:29 <LeeF> topic: Admin

1. Admin

14:02:39 <LeeF> PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-09-20

PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-09-20 ←

14:03:13 <Zakim> +pgearon

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14:03:23 <LeeF> RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-09-20

RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-09-20 ←

14:03:36 <LeeF> Next regular meeting: 2011-10-04 @ 15:00 UK / 10:00 EST (scribe: Sandro? )

Lee Feigenbaum: Next regular meeting: 2011-10-04 @ 15:00 UK / 10:00 EST (scribe: Sandro? ) ←

14:04:10 <Zakim> + +1.216.368.aadd

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14:04:11 <cbuilara> LeeF: Andy, anything from the RDF-WG?

Lee Feigenbaum: Andy, anything from the RDF-WG? ←

14:04:21 <chimezie> Zakim, 1.216.368.aadd is me

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, 1.216.368.aadd is me ←

14:04:22 <Zakim> sorry, chimezie, I do not recognize a party named '1.216.368.aadd'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, chimezie, I do not recognize a party named '1.216.368.aadd' ←

14:04:29 <cbuilara> AndyS: no, nothing new

Andy Seaborne: no, nothing new ←

14:04:30 <chimezie> Zakim, +1.216.368.aadd is me

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, +1.216.368.aadd is me ←

14:04:30 <Zakim> +chimezie; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +chimezie; got it ←

14:04:57 <cbuilara> AndyS: in the next f2f meeting probably we will push the job

Andy Seaborne: in the next f2f meeting probably we will push the job ←

14:05:02 <LeeF> topic: publication status

2. publication status

14:05:12 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, mute me ←

14:05:12 <Zakim> chimezie should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: chimezie should now be muted ←

14:05:21 <LeeF> AxelPolleres, any news on overview document?

Lee Feigenbaum: AxelPolleres, any news on overview document? ←

14:05:53 <AxelPolleres> no news on overview, hope to find an evening this week where I can finish it.

Axel Polleres: no news on overview, hope to find an evening this week where I can finish it. ←

14:05:58 <cbuilara> LeeF: Fed query, still trying to finish issues from Greg, anything solved?

Gregory Williams: Fed query, still trying to finish issues from Greg, anything solved? ←

14:06:07 <cbuilara> zakim, unmute me

zakim, unmute me ←

14:06:12 <Zakim> cbuilara was not muted, cbuilara

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14:06:31 <LeeF> cbuilara: remaining issue is the comment from Axel - I will check that in today

Carlos Buil Aranda: remaining issue is the comment from Axel - I will check that in today [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←

14:06:37 <LeeF> ... fed query document is OK after that

Lee Feigenbaum: ... fed query document is OK after that ←

14:07:12 <cbuilara> kasei: I'm not sure if everything is fixed

Gregory Williams: I'm not sure if everything is fixed ←

14:07:21 <cbuilara> s/LeeF/kasei
14:07:33 <cbuilara> kasei: I will have a look at the document

Gregory Williams: I will have a look at the document ←

14:07:39 <cbuilara> zakim, mute me

zakim, mute me ←

14:07:40 <Zakim> cbuilara should now be muted

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14:08:02 <cbuilara> LeeF: my main concern is that people is communicating

Lee Feigenbaum: my main concern is that people is communicating ←

14:08:22 <LeeF> ACTION-514?

Lee Feigenbaum: ACTION-514? ←

14:08:22 <trackbot> ACTION-514 -- Axel Polleres to look at Greg's review of federated query -- due 2011-08-16 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-514 -- Axel Polleres to look at Greg's review of federated query -- due 2011-08-16 -- OPEN ←

14:08:22 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/514

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/514 ←

14:08:35 <cbuilara> LeeF: Greg to look at the document and review it

Lee Feigenbaum: Greg to look at the document and review it ←

14:08:48 <LeeF> topic: String functions

3. String functions

14:09:06 <LeeF> Comment from Jeen: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2011Aug/0001.html

Lee Feigenbaum: Comment from Jeen: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2011Aug/0001.html ←

14:10:52 <LeeF> ack pgearon

Lee Feigenbaum: ack pgearon ←

14:11:03 <pgearon> sorry, having trouble with mute

Paula Gearon: sorry, having trouble with mute ←

14:11:35 <cbuilara> pgearon: I don't have a strong feeling on the hash functions, but the common ones

Paula Gearon: I don't have a strong feeling on the hash functions, but the common ones ←

14:11:43 <LeeF> LeeF: 3 questions: 1) right set of string functions? 2) string functions are 1-indexed 3) set of hash functions

Lee Feigenbaum: 3 questions: 1) right set of string functions? 2) string functions are 1-indexed 3) set of hash functions [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←

14:11:54 <cbuilara> pgearon: I never run to use the other hash functions

Paula Gearon: I never run to use the other hash functions ←

14:12:10 <cbuilara> pgearon: I do not have any particular use case

Paula Gearon: I do not have any particular use case ←

14:12:48 <cbuilara> LeeF: there wasn't strong objections to include all funcions

Lee Feigenbaum: there wasn't strong objections to include all funcions ←

14:13:21 <cbuilara> LeeF: anyone objected to have all hash functons?

Lee Feigenbaum: anyone objected to have all hash functons? ←

14:13:58 <Zakim> +Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro ←

14:14:42 <cbuilara> LeeF: minutes of the hash functions:  http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-12-07

Lee Feigenbaum: minutes of the hash functions: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-12-07 ←

14:15:13 <pgearon> my original position was that we should do all possible functions. This was not based on a perceived need for them all, but because I thought it was cheap to do.

Paula Gearon: my original position was that we should do all possible functions. This was not based on a perceived need for them all, but because I thought it was cheap to do. ←

14:15:55 <pgearon> Steve's comment indicates that it isn't so easy (I have not had an opportunity to implement these myself).

Paula Gearon: Steve's comment indicates that it isn't so easy (I have not had an opportunity to implement these myself). ←

14:16:24 <LeeF> q?

Lee Feigenbaum: q? ←

14:16:39 <swh> Decent implementations of the more obscure ones are hard to come by, but it's not the end of the world

Steve Harris: Decent implementations of the more obscure ones are hard to come by, but it's not the end of the world ←

14:16:45 <cbuilara> LeeF: it seems a "why not add them all attitude?" any more opinions on that?

Lee Feigenbaum: it seems a "why not add them all attitude?" any more opinions on that? ←

14:17:03 <AndyS> q+

Andy Seaborne: q+ ←

14:17:35 <LeeF> ack AndyS

Lee Feigenbaum: ack AndyS ←

14:18:40 <cbuilara> LeeF: we do not have a protocol document, we can update the last call for hash functions without being a bit problem

Lee Feigenbaum: we do not have a protocol document, we can update the last call for hash functions without being a bit problem ←

14:18:55 <cbuilara> AndyS: it could be possible a second last call?

Andy Seaborne: it could be possible a second last call? ←

14:18:57 <LeeF> AxelPolleres, does RIF use the 1-indexed string functions?

Lee Feigenbaum: AxelPolleres, does RIF use the 1-indexed string functions? ←

14:19:52 <LeeF> q?

Lee Feigenbaum: q? ←

14:20:15 <pgearon> LeeF: RIF does use 1 based indexing

Lee Feigenbaum: RIF does use 1 based indexing [ Scribe Assist by Paula Gearon ] ←

14:20:24 <LeeF> LeeF: if we trimmed the SHA functions, which ones would we include?

Lee Feigenbaum: if we trimmed the SHA functions, which ones would we include? [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←

14:20:30 <LeeF> AndyS: SHA1 and SHA256 I think?

Andy Seaborne: SHA1 and SHA256 I think? [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←

14:20:35 <cbuilara> AndyS: I do not have experience of people using SHA2

Andy Seaborne: I do not have experience of people using SHA2 ←

14:21:31 <cbuilara> LeeF: if anybody is ok to remove SHA2, say it

Lee Feigenbaum: if anybody is ok to remove SHA2, say it ←

14:23:18 <cbuilara> LeeF: get somebody to select the right hash functions

Lee Feigenbaum: get somebody to select the right hash functions ←

14:23:20 <AndyS> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHA-1#SHA-1

Andy Seaborne: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHA-1#SHA-1 ←

14:23:28 <LeeF> ACTION: Sandro to ask W3C security experts about popular / useful hash functions

ACTION: Sandro to ask W3C security experts about popular / useful hash functions ←

14:23:28 <trackbot> Created ACTION-536 - Ask W3C security experts about popular / useful hash functions [on Sandro Hawke - due 2011-10-04].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-536 - Ask W3C security experts about popular / useful hash functions [on Sandro Hawke - due 2011-10-04]. ←

14:24:27 <LeeF> LeeF: We seem to have consensus on removingsome less comomn hash functions. We'll revisit this with a concrete resolution pending expert input on which ones to keep.

Lee Feigenbaum: We seem to have consensus on removingsome less comomn hash functions. We'll revisit this with a concrete resolution pending expert input on which ones to keep. [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←

14:24:33 <LeeF> ack pgearon

Lee Feigenbaum: ack pgearon ←

14:25:25 <LeeF> pgearon: perhaps include a note in the document reminding people about function extensibility

Paula Gearon: perhaps include a note in the document reminding people about function extensibility [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←

14:26:13 <Zakim> + +1.781.899.aaee

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.781.899.aaee ←

14:26:24 <Zakim> -Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro ←

14:27:24 <cbuilara> LeeF: my inclination would be to keep it in the way it is

Lee Feigenbaum: my inclination would be to keep it in the way it is ←

14:27:27 <LeeF> subtopic: 1-indexed strings

3.1. 1-indexed strings

14:27:29 <mperry> I am for 1-based strings

Matthew Perry: I am for 1-based strings ←

14:27:36 <LeeF> ack pgearon

Lee Feigenbaum: ack pgearon ←

14:27:39 <cbuilara> LeeF: what people think?

Lee Feigenbaum: what people think? ←

14:28:01 <cbuilara> pgearon: I'm happy with 1-based string

Paula Gearon: I'm happy with 1-based string ←

14:28:31 <cbuilara> AndyS: I'm neutral

Andy Seaborne: I'm neutral ←

14:28:41 <cbuilara> Andy: about the hash functions

Andy Seaborne: about the hash functions ←

14:28:55 <cbuilara> AndyS: we do not have any operation that return indexes

Andy Seaborne: we do not have any operation that return indexes ←

14:29:28 <cbuilara> AndyS: it is probably a mistake that we did not get it

Andy Seaborne: it is probably a mistake that we did not get it ←

14:29:57 <pgearon> I'm looking at RIF right now, and it doesn't have a string search

Paula Gearon: I'm looking at RIF right now, and it doesn't have a string search ←

14:30:44 <AndyS> http://www.w3.org/TR/xpath-functions/#string-functions

Andy Seaborne: http://www.w3.org/TR/xpath-functions/#string-functions ←

14:31:24 <pgearon> RIF probably doesn't need it, since with logic programming you can just put a variable in for func:substring and it will fill in the value of the variable for you

Paula Gearon: RIF probably doesn't need it, since with logic programming you can just put a variable in for func:substring and it will fill in the value of the variable for you ←

14:31:53 <cbuilara> LeeF: why didn't xpath operations does not include index operations

Lee Feigenbaum: why didn't xpath operations does not include index operations ←

14:32:15 <cbuilara> Sandro: we can ask, xquery may have some similar operations to that

Sandro Hawke: we can ask, xquery may have some similar operations to that ←

14:34:14 <cbuilara> LeeF: Jeen is asking what criteria does the grup have about the string functions

Lee Feigenbaum: Jeen is asking what criteria does the grup have about the string functions ←

14:35:13 <LeeF> LeeF: Seems to be consensus to keep 1-indexed strings in string functions (as per XML F&O and RIF)

Lee Feigenbaum: Seems to be consensus to keep 1-indexed strings in string functions (as per XML F&O and RIF) [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←

14:35:44 <cbuilara> LeeF: question about set of functions

Lee Feigenbaum: question about set of functions ←

14:36:05 <AndyS> "fn:substring-before" and "fn:substring-after" go someway to help - they produce strings

Andy Seaborne: "fn:substring-before" and "fn:substring-after" go someway to help - they produce strings ←

14:37:04 <AxelPolleres> In RIF the criterion was basically scanning the ones in http://www.w3.org/TR/xpath-functions/#string-functions and taking those on board which we thought would be reasonable for that group's purposes (not much more, we definitly didn't think of other functions except those from Xpath/Xquery for strings)

Axel Polleres: In RIF the criterion was basically scanning the ones in http://www.w3.org/TR/xpath-functions/#string-functions and taking those on board which we thought would be reasonable for that group's purposes (not much more, we definitly didn't think of other functions except those from Xpath/Xquery for strings) ←

14:38:14 <chimezie> for what its worth

Chimezie Ogbuji: for what its worth ←

14:38:34 <chimezie> i write XPath often without the need for explicit index returning functions (using substring-before and after, etc.)

Chimezie Ogbuji: i write XPath often without the need for explicit index returning functions (using substring-before and after, etc.) ←

14:40:15 <chimezie> Zakim, unmute me

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, unmute me ←

14:40:15 <Zakim> chimezie should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: chimezie should no longer be muted ←

14:40:33 <cbuilara> Sandro: I will send a quick note to the xpath staff contact asking for comments about string functions

Sandro Hawke: I will send a quick note to the xpath staff contact asking for comments about string functions ←

14:42:00 <cbuilara> LeeF: better to include substring before and after, anybodydisagrees?

Lee Feigenbaum: better to include substring before and after, anybodydisagrees? ←

14:42:07 <LeeF> LeeF: If we're already doing a 2nd last call, we probably ought to include substring-before and substring-after

Lee Feigenbaum: If we're already doing a 2nd last call, we probably ought to include substring-before and substring-after [ Scribe Assist by Lee Feigenbaum ] ←

14:42:42 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, mute me ←

14:42:42 <Zakim> chimezie should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: chimezie should now be muted ←

14:42:51 <LeeF> for next week's agenda: PROPOSED: Include substring-before and substring-after as SPARQL 1.1 Query functions

Lee Feigenbaum: for next week's agenda: PROPOSED: Include substring-before and substring-after as SPARQL 1.1 Query functions ←

14:43:11 <AxelPolleres> Naive proposal would be to propose to expand to those functions we miss from RIF's string functions, particularly substring-before/after ... would that do? (at least we would be cohherent between RIF and SPARQL then) on a quick look, we miss substring-before., substring-after, string-join, replace,

Axel Polleres: Naive proposal would be to propose to expand to those functions we miss from RIF's string functions, particularly substring-before/after ... would that do? (at least we would be cohherent between RIF and SPARQL then) on a quick look, we miss substring-before., substring-after, string-join, replace, ←

14:44:00 <LeeF> topic: implementation report

4. implementation report

14:45:00 <kasei> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/implementations/

Gregory Williams: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/implementations/ ←

14:45:03 <cbuilara> kasei: the output from that code in the cvs, one line per test, generates a quick summary

Gregory Williams: the output from that code in the cvs, one line per test, generates a quick summary ←

14:45:44 <chimezie> i can begin to produce EARL

Chimezie Ogbuji: i can begin to produce EARL ←

14:45:46 <cbuilara> LeeF: people should start producing reports

Lee Feigenbaum: people should start producing reports ←

14:45:51 <chimezie> Zakim, unmute me

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, unmute me ←

14:45:51 <Zakim> chimezie should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: chimezie should no longer be muted ←

14:48:52 <cbuilara> kasei: some of the tests files in CVS are not available with no login into the W3C

Gregory Williams: some of the tests files in CVS are not available with no login into the W3C ←

14:49:35 <kasei> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/functions/

Gregory Williams: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/tests/data-sparql11/functions/ ←

14:50:01 <kasei> the file notin01.rq should appear in that directory listing, but doesn't.

Gregory Williams: the file notin01.rq should appear in that directory listing, but doesn't. ←

14:51:32 <cbuilara> Sandro: still searching for the problem

Sandro Hawke: still searching for the problem ←

14:53:20 <cbuilara> LeeF: chimezie summarize entailment

Lee Feigenbaum: chimezie summarize protocol comments ←

14:53:33 <AndyS> SJ = Simon Johnstone

Andy Seaborne: SJ = Simon Johnstone ←

14:54:43 <Zakim> -chimezie

Zakim IRC Bot: -chimezie ←

14:54:44 <AndyS> FWIW -- Fuseki sniffs the filename on multifile load -- browsers don't set content type

Andy Seaborne: FWIW -- Fuseki sniffs the filename on multifile load -- browsers don't set content type ←

14:54:51 <cbuilara> s/entailment/protocol comments
14:55:09 <sandro> q+ re permissions

Sandro Hawke: q+ re permissions ←

14:55:12 <cbuilara> s/entailment/protocol comments/
14:55:46 <LeeF> ack sandro

Lee Feigenbaum: ack sandro ←

14:55:46 <Zakim> sandro, you wanted to discuss permissions

Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, you wanted to discuss permissions ←

14:56:58 <mperry> bye

Matthew Perry: bye ←

14:57:06 <Zakim> -AndyS

Zakim IRC Bot: -AndyS ←

14:57:14 <Zakim> -mperry

Zakim IRC Bot: -mperry ←

14:57:28 <Zakim> -Olivier

Zakim IRC Bot: -Olivier ←

14:58:06 <cbuilara> Sandro: there may be a problem with the CVS server, I will try to refresh

Sandro Hawke: there may be a problem with the CVS server, I will try to refresh ←

15:00:31 <AndyS> if anyone (any two) people could confirm responses DM-1 and DB-11, I'd be most grateful.

Andy Seaborne: if anyone (any two) people could confirm responses DM-1 and DB-11, I'd be most grateful. ←

15:00:55 <AndyS> pgearon - there are some shared query/update responses to draft.

Andy Seaborne: pgearon - there are some shared query/update responses to draft. ←

15:01:35 <pgearon> OK. Just realized last night I have one for David Booth that I'm behind on

Paula Gearon: OK. Just realized last night I have one for David Booth that I'm behind on ←

15:04:24 <sandro> notin01.rq : ➔ Gregory Williams (gwilliam) can admin

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Sandro Hawke: Team access can admin ←



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