None.
13:47:36 <AxelPolleres> AOB: Does it make sense to discuss the entailment regime-URIs today?.... I ask because there would be a RIF call today, and, if I want to poke them, I should maybe start in that call (would need to leave early then...), cf. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009OctDec/0084.html
Axel Polleres: AOB: Does it make sense to discuss the entailment regime-URIs today?.... I ask because there would be a RIF call today, and, if I want to poke them, I should maybe start in that call (would need to leave early then...), cf. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009OctDec/0084.html ←
13:56:51 <AndyS> There are several thing on the agenda that look like long and important.
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Andy Seaborne: There are several thing on the agenda that look like long and important. ←
13:59:51 <LukeWM> zakim, where are you?
Luke Wilson-Mawer: zakim, where are you? ←
13:59:51 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, LukeWM.
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, LukeWM. ←
14:00:03 <AndyS> zakim, ??P?? is me
Andy Seaborne: zakim, ??P?? is me ←
14:00:03 <Zakim> sorry, AndyS, I do not recognize a party named '??P??'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, AndyS, I do not recognize a party named '??P??' ←
14:00:18 <AndyS> zakim, who is on the phone?
Andy Seaborne: zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:00:18 <Zakim> sorry, AndyS, I don't know what conference this is
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, AndyS, I don't know what conference this is ←
14:00:19 <Zakim> On IRC I see bglimm, LukeWM, Zakim, AxelPolleres, AndyS, SimonS, LeeF, SteveH, ivanh, iv_an_ru, pgearon, KjetilK, kjetil, ericP, AlexPassant, kasei, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see bglimm, LukeWM, Zakim, AxelPolleres, AndyS, SimonS, LeeF, SteveH, ivanh, iv_an_ru, pgearon, KjetilK, kjetil, ericP, AlexPassant, kasei, trackbot ←
14:00:36 <AndyS> zakim, this is sparql
Andy Seaborne: zakim, this is sparql ←
14:00:36 <Zakim> ok, AndyS; that matches SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, AndyS; that matches SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM ←
14:00:39 <Zakim> +bglimm
Zakim IRC Bot: +bglimm ←
14:00:44 <AndyS> zakim, who is on the phone?
Andy Seaborne: zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:00:45 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P24, kasei, +7.950.aaaa, bglimm
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P24, kasei, +7.950.aaaa, bglimm ←
14:00:52 <AndyS> zakim, ??P24 is me
Andy Seaborne: zakim, ??P24 is me ←
14:00:52 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +AndyS; got it ←
14:00:52 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me ←
14:00:53 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should now be muted ←
14:01:06 <kasei> Zakim, mute me
Gregory Williams: Zakim, mute me ←
14:01:06 <Zakim> kasei should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: kasei should now be muted ←
14:01:35 <Zakim> +AxelPolleres
Zakim IRC Bot: +AxelPolleres ←
14:01:52 <ivanh> zakim, dial ivanh-voip
Ivan Herman: zakim, dial ivanh-voip ←
14:02:02 <Zakim> ok, ivanh; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, ivanh; the call is being made ←
14:02:04 <Zakim> +ivanh
Zakim IRC Bot: +ivanh ←
14:02:26 <Zakim> +SimonS
Zakim IRC Bot: +SimonS ←
14:03:32 <LeeF> hey, everyone
Lee Feigenbaum: hey, everyone ←
14:03:34 <LeeF> sorry i'm late
Lee Feigenbaum: sorry i'm late ←
14:03:35 <LeeF> dialing in now
Lee Feigenbaum: dialing in now ←
14:03:55 <AxelPolleres> Agenda is here (with additions from andy): http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009OctDec/0136.html�
Axel Polleres: Agenda is here (with additions from andy): http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009OctDec/0136.html� ←
14:04:08 <LukeWM> does anyone know how to make the ?? stuff appear on the phone?
Luke Wilson-Mawer: does anyone know how to make the ?? stuff appear on the phone? ←
14:04:26 <LeeF> except zakim isn't working for me
Lee Feigenbaum: except zakim isn't working for me ←
14:04:32 <bglimm> Lee, I cannot here you
Birte Glimm: Lee, I cannot here you ←
14:04:41 <LeeF> Not on the phone yet, trying to connect
Lee Feigenbaum: Not on the phone yet, trying to connect ←
14:04:43 <AxelPolleres> hmmm
Axel Polleres: hmmm ←
14:05:02 <LukeWM> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Luke Wilson-Mawer: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:05:02 <Zakim> On the phone I see AndyS, kasei (muted), +7.950.aaaa, bglimm (muted), AxelPolleres, ivanh, SimonS
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see AndyS, kasei (muted), +7.950.aaaa, bglimm (muted), AxelPolleres, ivanh, SimonS ←
14:05:02 <bglimm> ah
Birte Glimm: ah ←
14:05:04 <Zakim> +LeeF
Zakim IRC Bot: +LeeF ←
14:05:06 <kasei> LikeWM, "?? stuff"?
Gregory Williams: LikeWM, "?? stuff"? ←
14:05:07 <bglimm> yes
Birte Glimm: yes ←
14:05:48 <LukeWM> kasei, the code that identifies us to zakim. Is there something I can type into the phone keypad to make it appear on IRC?
Luke Wilson-Mawer: kasei, the code that identifies us to zakim. Is there something I can type into the phone keypad to make it appear on IRC? ←
14:05:57 <SteveH> it's something like #41
Steve Harris: it's something like #41 ←
14:06:00 <kasei> 41#, I think
Gregory Williams: 41#, I think ←
14:06:16 <kasei> hrmm
Gregory Williams: hrmm ←
14:06:27 <AndyS> Topic: Administation
Andy Seaborne: Topic: Administation ←
14:06:34 <AndyS> scribe:AndyS
Andy Seaborne: scribe:AndyS ←
14:06:44 <AndyS> scribenick:AndyS
Andy Seaborne: scribenick:AndyS ←
14:07:05 <Zakim> +Chimezie_Ogbuji
Zakim IRC Bot: +Chimezie_Ogbuji ←
14:07:08 <AndyS> LeeF: for now, move admin to later
Andy Seaborne: LeeF: for now, move admin to later ←
14:07:26 <AndyS> Topic: FPWD
Andy Seaborne: Topic: FPWD ←
14:07:38 <AndyS> Chair: LeeF
Andy Seaborne: Chair: LeeF ←
14:08:14 <bglimm> Zakim, unmute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, unmute me ←
14:08:14 <Zakim> bglimm should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should no longer be muted ←
14:08:18 <AndyS> LeeF: W3C typical model for FPWD is to publish something on time, with issues, but no sense of complete
Andy Seaborne: LeeF: W3C typical model for FPWD is to publish something on time, with issues, but no sense of complete ←
14:08:24 <AndyS> zakim, mute me
Andy Seaborne: zakim, mute me ←
14:08:24 <Zakim> AndyS should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: AndyS should now be muted ←
14:08:42 <bglimm> I still have no CVS access (can connect, but have no rights to see the relevant folder)
Birte Glimm: I still have no CVS access (can connect, but have no rights to see the relevant folder) ←
14:08:42 <AndyS> ... good to publish in advance of ISWC
Andy Seaborne: ... good to publish in advance of ISWC ←
14:08:54 <AndyS> ... one hour panel on SPARQL at ISWC
Andy Seaborne: ... one hour panel on SPARQL at ISWC ←
14:08:58 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me ←
14:08:58 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should now be muted ←
14:09:07 <AndyS> ... so generate community interest
Andy Seaborne: ... so generate community interest ←
14:09:17 <AndyS> ... publish as many docs as possible
Andy Seaborne: ... publish as many docs as possible ←
14:10:08 <AndyS> ... the naming/versioing issue -- need to clarify. Individual drafts numbered (agreed F2F)
Andy Seaborne: ... the naming/versioing issue -- need to clarify. Individual drafts numbered (agreed F2F) ←
14:10:23 <AndyS> ... then a chair talked about SPARQL 2.0
Andy Seaborne: ... then a chair talked about SPARQL 2.0 ←
14:10:54 <AndyS> ... and the individual docs having different numbers has been shown to be confusing
Andy Seaborne: ... and the individual docs having different numbers has been shown to be confusing ←
14:11:27 <SteveH> q+
Steve Harris: q+ ←
14:11:43 <LeeF> ack SteveH
Lee Feigenbaum: ack SteveH ←
14:11:43 <AndyS> ... may get worse with future doc versions
Andy Seaborne: ... may get worse with future doc versions ←
14:12:04 <LeeF> SteveH, are you talking?
Lee Feigenbaum: SteveH, are you talking? ←
14:12:07 <SteveH> yes
Steve Harris: yes ←
14:12:08 <LeeF> zakim, who's on the phone?
Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, who's on the phone? ←
14:12:08 <Zakim> On the phone I see AndyS (muted), kasei (muted), +7.950.aaaa, bglimm (muted), AxelPolleres, ivanh, SimonS, LeeF, Chimezie_Ogbuji
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see AndyS (muted), kasei (muted), +7.950.aaaa, bglimm (muted), AxelPolleres, ivanh, SimonS, LeeF, Chimezie_Ogbuji ←
14:12:11 <SteveH> Zakim, unmute me
Steve Harris: Zakim, unmute me ←
14:12:11 <Zakim> sorry, SteveH, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, SteveH, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you ←
14:12:15 <SteveH> aaah
Steve Harris: aaah ←
14:12:37 <LukeWM> zakim, who is speaking
Luke Wilson-Mawer: zakim, who is speaking ←
14:12:37 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is speaking', LukeWM
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'who is speaking', LukeWM ←
14:13:00 <AndyS> SteveH: The multi-version thing is confusing - feedback from colleagues.
Andy Seaborne: SteveH: The multi-version thing is confusing - feedback from colleagues. ←
14:13:13 <AndyS> ... one label for the whole package
Andy Seaborne: ... one label for the whole package ←
14:13:25 <LukeWM> Zakim, who is talking
Luke Wilson-Mawer: Zakim, who is talking ←
14:13:25 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is talking', LukeWM
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'who is talking', LukeWM ←
14:13:40 <AndyS> ... if SPARQL 2.0, then use that not doc versions.
Andy Seaborne: ... if SPARQL 2.0, then use that not doc versions. ←
14:13:40 <LukeWM> Zakim, who is talking?
Luke Wilson-Mawer: Zakim, who is talking? ←
14:13:44 <SimonS> +1 for SPARQL2010
Simon Schenk: +1 for SPARQL2010 ←
14:13:50 <Zakim> LukeWM, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: +7.950.aaaa (14%), LeeF (42%)
Zakim IRC Bot: LukeWM, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: +7.950.aaaa (14%), LeeF (42%) ←
14:13:52 <AndyS> ... suggest SPARQL-2010 style
Andy Seaborne: ... suggest SPARQL-2010 style ←
14:14:05 <ivanh> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
14:14:07 <AxelPolleres> q+
Axel Polleres: q+ ←
14:14:13 <AndyS> zakim, unmute me
Andy Seaborne: zakim, unmute me ←
14:14:13 <Zakim> AndyS was not muted, AndyS
Zakim IRC Bot: AndyS was not muted, AndyS ←
14:14:21 <AndyS> ack AndyS
Andy Seaborne: ack AndyS ←
14:14:39 <LeeF> ack ivanh
Lee Feigenbaum: ack ivanh ←
14:14:40 <AndyS> zakim, mute me
Andy Seaborne: zakim, mute me ←
14:14:40 <Zakim> AndyS should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: AndyS should now be muted ←
14:14:41 <LukeWM> zakim, Garlik is 7.950.aaaa
Luke Wilson-Mawer: zakim, Garlik is 7.950.aaaa ←
14:14:41 <Zakim> sorry, LukeWM, I do not recognize a party named 'Garlik'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, LukeWM, I do not recognize a party named 'Garlik' ←
14:14:51 <LeeF> zakim, aaaa is Garlik
Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, aaaa is Garlik ←
14:14:51 <Zakim> +Garlik; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Garlik; got it ←
14:15:02 <LukeWM> thanks LeeF
Luke Wilson-Mawer: thanks LeeF ←
14:15:03 <LeeF> zakim, Garlik has SteveH, LukeWM
Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, Garlik has SteveH, LukeWM ←
14:15:03 <Zakim> +SteveH, LukeWM; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +SteveH, LukeWM; got it ←
14:15:27 <SteveH> +1 to ivanh
Steve Harris: +1 to ivanh ←
14:15:29 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2009-05-06#resolution_3
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2009-05-06#resolution_3 ←
14:15:32 <LeeF> ack AxelPolleres
Lee Feigenbaum: ack AxelPolleres ←
14:15:36 <AndyS> ivanh: no strong feelings but SPARQL-2.0 so SPARQL-2.0/Update
Andy Seaborne: ivanh: no strong feelings but SPARQL-2.0 so SPARQL-2.0/Update ←
14:16:16 <AndyS> Axel: (reminder of discussion)
Andy Seaborne: Axel: (reminder of discussion) ←
14:16:54 <kasei> does ivan's idea get weird if later on query is updated, and everything else without changes gets a version bump, too (so maybe update 1.1 == update 2.0)??
Gregory Williams: does ivan's idea get weird if later on query is updated, and everything else without changes gets a version bump, too (so maybe update 1.1 == update 2.0)?? ←
14:17:29 <kasei> seems like it gets weird either way.
Gregory Williams: seems like it gets weird either way. ←
14:17:34 <SteveH> that's why I prefer years
Steve Harris: that's why I prefer years ←
14:17:38 <ivanh> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
14:17:53 <SteveH> heh
Steve Harris: heh ←
14:17:55 <LeeF> ack ivan
Lee Feigenbaum: ack ivan ←
14:18:21 <AndyS> ivanh: if touch one, touch everything in practice so can happen but less likely
Andy Seaborne: ivanh: if touch one, touch everything in practice so can happen but less likely ←
14:18:32 <AndyS> ... breaks the W3C style.
Andy Seaborne: ... breaks the W3C style. ←
14:18:41 <AndyS> ... not been done before
Andy Seaborne: ... not been done before ←
14:18:47 <AndyS> zakim, unmute me
Andy Seaborne: zakim, unmute me ←
14:18:47 <Zakim> AndyS should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: AndyS should no longer be muted ←
14:19:03 <AxelPolleres> What speaks against going uniformly with 1.1 (looks like a compromise)?
Axel Polleres: What speaks against going uniformly with 1.1 (looks like a compromise)? ←
14:19:31 <AndyS> ivanh: XML was special -- other specs have used version by number OK
Andy Seaborne: ivanh: XML was special -- other specs have used version by number OK ←
14:19:41 <ivanh> s/XML/XHTML/
Ivan Herman: s/XML/XHTML/ ←
14:20:10 <AxelPolleres> SPARQL1.1/Query SPARQL1.1/Update ... instead of SPARQL/Query 1.1 SPARQL/Update 1.0, etc.
Axel Polleres: SPARQL1.1/Query SPARQL1.1/Update ... instead of SPARQL/Query 1.1 SPARQL/Update 1.0, etc. ←
14:20:10 <AndyS> LeeF: propose SPARQL-X/Query etc
Andy Seaborne: LeeF: propose SPARQL-X/Query etc ←
14:20:17 <SteveH> +1
Steve Harris: +1 ←
14:20:19 <LeeF> PROPOSED: To give this round of SPARQL work its own name and name the components based on that
Lee Feigenbaum: PROPOSED: To give this round of SPARQL work its own name and name the components based on that ←
14:20:20 <ivanh> +1
Ivan Herman: +1 ←
14:20:28 <chimezie> +1
Chimezie Ogbuji: +1 ←
14:20:28 <kasei> +1
Gregory Williams: +1 ←
14:20:29 <SimonS> +1
Simon Schenk: +1 ←
14:20:34 <bglimm> 0
Birte Glimm: 0 ←
14:20:41 <bglimm> yes
Birte Glimm: yes ←
14:20:41 <AxelPolleres> +1 (if promised we stick with that ;-) )
Axel Polleres: +1 (if promised we stick with that ;-) ) ←
14:20:47 <LeeF> RESOLVED: To give this round of SPARQL work its own name and name the components based on that, bglimm abstaining
Lee Feigenbaum: RESOLVED: To give this round of SPARQL work its own name and name the components based on that, bglimm abstaining ←
14:20:48 <bglimm> I have no strong opinion on any
Birte Glimm: I have no strong opinion on any ←
14:20:58 <LeeF> What is X?
Lee Feigenbaum: What is X? ←
14:20:59 <LeeF> 1.1
Lee Feigenbaum: 1.1 ←
14:21:00 <LeeF> 2.0
Lee Feigenbaum: 2.0 ←
14:21:01 <LeeF> 2
Lee Feigenbaum: 2 ←
14:21:04 <LeeF> 2010
Lee Feigenbaum: 2010 ←
14:21:41 <AndyS> zakim, unmute me
Andy Seaborne: zakim, unmute me ←
14:21:41 <Zakim> AndyS was not muted, AndyS
Zakim IRC Bot: AndyS was not muted, AndyS ←
14:21:44 <AndyS> q+
Andy Seaborne: q+ ←
14:21:48 <LeeF> ack AndyS
Lee Feigenbaum: ack AndyS ←
14:22:25 <AndyS> AndyS: SPARQL-2012 and publish early
Andy Seaborne: AndyS: SPARQL-2012 and publish early ←
14:22:44 <AndyS> pref for 2 not 2.0
Andy Seaborne: pref for 2 not 2.0 ←
14:22:46 <SteveH> q+
Steve Harris: q+ ←
14:22:50 <LeeF> ack SteveH
Lee Feigenbaum: ack SteveH ←
14:23:08 <SimonS> q+
Simon Schenk: q+ ←
14:24:04 <AndyS> ivan: cautious about 2010 style
Andy Seaborne: ivan: cautious about 2010 style ←
14:24:09 <LeeF> ack SimonS
Lee Feigenbaum: ack SimonS ←
14:24:23 <KjetilK> Zakim, what is the code?
Kjetil Kjernsmo: Zakim, what is the code? ←
14:24:23 <Zakim> the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), KjetilK
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), KjetilK ←
14:24:32 <Zakim> +??P2
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P2 ←
14:24:39 <KjetilK> Zakim, ??P2 is me
Kjetil Kjernsmo: Zakim, ??P2 is me ←
14:24:39 <Zakim> +KjetilK; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +KjetilK; got it ←
14:24:39 <AxelPolleres> q+
Axel Polleres: q+ ←
14:24:46 <LeeF> acl AxelPolleres
Lee Feigenbaum: acl AxelPolleres ←
14:24:49 <LeeF> ack AxelPolleres
Lee Feigenbaum: ack AxelPolleres ←
14:25:30 <KjetilK> Zakim, mute me
Kjetil Kjernsmo: Zakim, mute me ←
14:25:30 <Zakim> KjetilK should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: KjetilK should now be muted ←
14:25:43 <AndyS> strawpoll
Andy Seaborne: strawpoll ←
14:26:02 <LeeF> straw poll: SPARQL 1.1
Lee Feigenbaum: straw poll: SPARQL 1.1 ←
14:26:04 <kasei> +1
Gregory Williams: +1 ←
14:26:05 <AxelPolleres> +1
Axel Polleres: +1 ←
14:26:05 <bglimm> 0
Birte Glimm: 0 ←
14:26:07 <SteveH> 0
Steve Harris: 0 ←
14:26:07 <KjetilK> +1
Kjetil Kjernsmo: +1 ←
14:26:07 <ivanh> +1
Ivan Herman: +1 ←
14:26:08 <AndyS> +0
Andy Seaborne: +0 ←
14:26:09 <LeeF> 0
Lee Feigenbaum: 0 ←
14:26:13 <chimezie> +1
Chimezie Ogbuji: +1 ←
14:26:13 <SimonS> +1
Simon Schenk: +1 ←
14:26:14 <LukeWM> 0
14:26:25 <LeeF> 1.1 - 6 +1s
Lee Feigenbaum: 1.1 - 6 +1s ←
14:26:41 <LeeF> straw poll: SPARQL 2 (or 2.0)
Lee Feigenbaum: straw poll: SPARQL 2 (or 2.0) ←
14:26:44 <SteveH> -1
Steve Harris: -1 ←
14:26:45 <bglimm> 0
Birte Glimm: 0 ←
14:26:50 <kasei> -1
Gregory Williams: -1 ←
14:26:50 <KjetilK> 0
Kjetil Kjernsmo: 0 ←
14:26:50 <AxelPolleres> 0
Axel Polleres: 0 ←
14:26:50 <ivanh> 1
Ivan Herman: 1 ←
14:26:51 <SimonS> -1
Simon Schenk: -1 ←
14:26:51 <LeeF> +1
Lee Feigenbaum: +1 ←
14:26:52 <AndyS> +1 (pref 2)
Andy Seaborne: +1 (pref 2) ←
14:26:52 <LukeWM> 0
14:26:53 <chimezie> 0
Chimezie Ogbuji: 0 ←
14:27:05 <LeeF> less support for 2/2.0 then for 1.1
Lee Feigenbaum: less support for 2/2.0 then for 1.1 ←
14:27:09 <LeeF> straw poll: SPARQL 2010
Lee Feigenbaum: straw poll: SPARQL 2010 ←
14:27:11 <SteveH> +1
Steve Harris: +1 ←
14:27:12 <kasei> +1
Gregory Williams: +1 ←
14:27:12 <ivanh> -1
Ivan Herman: -1 ←
14:27:13 <bglimm> 0
Birte Glimm: 0 ←
14:27:13 <KjetilK> -1
Kjetil Kjernsmo: -1 ←
14:27:13 <LeeF> +1
Lee Feigenbaum: +1 ←
14:27:14 <SimonS> +1
Simon Schenk: +1 ←
14:27:14 <chimezie> 0
Chimezie Ogbuji: 0 ←
14:27:15 <LukeWM> 0
14:27:15 <AndyS> 0
Andy Seaborne: 0 ←
14:27:19 <AxelPolleres> -1
Axel Polleres: -1 ←
14:27:50 <LeeF> PROPOSED: The current work be known as SPARQL 1.1 with the components being SPARQL 1.1 Query, SPARQL 1.1 Update, SPARQL 1.1 Protocol, etc.
Lee Feigenbaum: PROPOSED: The current work be known as SPARQL 1.1 with the components being SPARQL 1.1 Query, SPARQL 1.1 Update, SPARQL 1.1 Protocol, etc. ←
14:27:58 <SteveH> seconded
Steve Harris: seconded ←
14:28:03 <ivanh> +1
Ivan Herman: +1 ←
14:28:15 <AxelPolleres> +1
Axel Polleres: +1 ←
14:28:17 <bglimm> +1
Birte Glimm: +1 ←
14:28:18 <LeeF> RESOLVED: The current work be known as SPARQL 1.1 with the components being SPARQL 1.1 Query, SPARQL 1.1 Update, SPARQL 1.1 Protocol, etc.
Lee Feigenbaum: RESOLVED: The current work be known as SPARQL 1.1 with the components being SPARQL 1.1 Query, SPARQL 1.1 Update, SPARQL 1.1 Protocol, etc. ←
14:28:23 <AndyS> action: andy and steve: update the query document for SPARQL 1.1 (Query) before FPWD
Andy Seaborne: action: andy and steve: update the query document for SPARQL 1.1 (Query) before FPWD ←
14:28:23 <trackbot> Created ACTION-119 - And steve: update the query document for SPARQL 1.1 (Query) before FPWD [on Andy Seaborne - due 2009-10-20].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-119 - And steve: update the query document for SPARQL 1.1 (Query) before FPWD [on Andy Seaborne - due 2009-10-20]. ←
14:28:26 <LeeF> ACTION: Lee to fix his slides
Lee Feigenbaum: ACTION: Lee to fix his slides ←
14:28:29 <trackbot> Created ACTION-120 - Fix his slides [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2009-10-20].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-120 - Fix his slides [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2009-10-20]. ←
14:28:45 <AxelPolleres> q+
Axel Polleres: q+ ←
14:28:47 <SteveH> Query is already 1.1
Steve Harris: Query is already 1.1 ←
14:28:55 <LeeF> ACTION: Eric and Lee to make sure FPWD documents reflect SPARQL 1.1 X style naming
Lee Feigenbaum: ACTION: Eric and Lee to make sure FPWD documents reflect SPARQL 1.1 X style naming ←
14:28:55 <trackbot> Created ACTION-121 - And Lee to make sure FPWD documents reflect SPARQL 1.1 X style naming [on Eric Prud'hommeaux - due 2009-10-20].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-121 - And Lee to make sure FPWD documents reflect SPARQL 1.1 X style naming [on Eric Prud'hommeaux - due 2009-10-20]. ←
14:28:59 <AndyS> but written wrongly
Andy Seaborne: but written wrongly ←
14:29:02 <SteveH> ah, ok
Steve Harris: ah, ok ←
14:29:04 <chimezie> what about drafts that don't reference SPARQL __? is a change neccessary?
Chimezie Ogbuji: what about drafts that don't reference SPARQL __? is a change neccessary? ←
14:29:45 <AndyS> zakim, unmute me
Andy Seaborne: zakim, unmute me ←
14:29:45 <Zakim> AndyS was not muted, AndyS
Zakim IRC Bot: AndyS was not muted, AndyS ←
14:29:47 <AndyS> q+
Andy Seaborne: q+ ←
14:30:22 <SteveH> +1 to ivan
Steve Harris: +1 to ivan ←
14:30:27 <SteveH> it has mappings to the update language
Steve Harris: it has mappings to the update language ←
14:30:40 <AxelPolleres> q-
Axel Polleres: q- ←
14:31:03 <LeeF> ack AndyS
Lee Feigenbaum: ack AndyS ←
14:31:25 <AndyS> AndyS: the relationship to naming is SPARQL
Andy Seaborne: AndyS: the relationship to naming is SPARQL ←
14:31:56 <AndyS> chimezie: title already problematic: otherwise mostly neutral
Andy Seaborne: chimezie: title already problematic: otherwise mostly neutral ←
14:31:58 <chimezie> i will concurr
Chimezie Ogbuji: i will concurr ←
14:31:59 <AxelPolleres> short names, some proposals: http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-query/ vs. http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql1.1-query/ vs. http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql-1.1-query/ etc. so... there are a couple of options
Axel Polleres: short names, some proposals: http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-query/ vs. http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql1.1-query/ vs. http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql-1.1-query/ etc. so... there are a couple of options ←
14:32:16 <AndyS> W3C is usually 11 isn't it?
Andy Seaborne: W3C is usually 11 isn't it? ←
14:32:22 <ivanh> AndyS: yes
Ivan Herman: AndyS: yes ←
14:32:32 <LeeF> sparql11-query
Lee Feigenbaum: sparql11-query ←
14:32:35 <LeeF> sparql11-update
Lee Feigenbaum: sparql11-update ←
14:32:38 <LeeF> sparql11-protocol
Lee Feigenbaum: sparql11-protocol ←
14:32:43 <LeeF> sparql11-service-description
Lee Feigenbaum: sparql11-service-description ←
14:32:50 <ivanh> sparql11-entailement ?
Ivan Herman: sparql11-entailement ? ←
14:32:52 <AndyS> yuk -> ell-one-one
Andy Seaborne: yuk -> ell-one-one ←
14:32:56 <LeeF> sparql11-rdf-http-update
Lee Feigenbaum: sparql11-rdf-http-update ←
14:32:57 <AndyS> but oh well
Andy Seaborne: but oh well ←
14:33:45 <AxelPolleres> e.g. http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema11-2/
Axel Polleres: e.g. http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema11-2/ ←
14:33:58 <AndyS> ivanh: will check what other groups have done
Andy Seaborne: ivanh: will check what other groups have done ←
14:33:59 <SteveH> e.g. http://www.w3.org/TR/xml11/
Steve Harris: e.g. http://www.w3.org/TR/xml11/ ←
14:34:10 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/TR/xml11/
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/TR/xml11/ ←
14:34:32 <AndyS> Leef: short name style sparql11-xyz
Andy Seaborne: Leef: short name style sparql11-xyz ←
14:34:37 <bglimm> owl2-profiles, owl2-syntax, etc it is for OWL
Birte Glimm: owl2-profiles, owl2-syntax, etc it is for OWL ←
14:35:03 <ivanh> AndyS: yes, pretty much
Ivan Herman: AndyS: yes, pretty much ←
14:35:11 <AndyS> Topic: Status of documents
Andy Seaborne: Topic: Status of documents ←
14:35:55 <LeeF> subtopic: SPARQL 1.1 Update
Lee Feigenbaum: subtopic: SPARQL 1.1 Update ←
14:35:57 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/update-1.0/
Lee Feigenbaum: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/update-1.0/ ←
14:36:12 <AxelPolleres> q+ to point to formalty about query.... http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2009-10-06#resolution_3
Axel Polleres: q+ to point to formalty about query.... http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2009-10-06#resolution_3 ←
14:36:16 <SteveH> q+
Steve Harris: q+ ←
14:36:25 <LeeF> ack SteveH
Lee Feigenbaum: ack SteveH ←
14:36:44 <AndyS> SteveH: current form - some contradictions and may confuse.
Andy Seaborne: SteveH: current form - some contradictions and may confuse. ←
14:37:38 <AxelPolleres> q-
Axel Polleres: q- ←
14:37:50 <Zakim> +Prateek
Zakim IRC Bot: +Prateek ←
14:37:54 <SimonS> http://www.w3.org/mid/BD315460-58A8-46BF-8324-FB5D057715A3@garlik.com
Simon Schenk: http://www.w3.org/mid/BD315460-58A8-46BF-8324-FB5D057715A3@garlik.com ←
14:37:59 <LeeF> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009OctDec/0041.html
Lee Feigenbaum: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009OctDec/0041.html ←
14:39:14 <SimonS> q+
Simon Schenk: q+ ←
14:39:34 <LeeF> ack SimonS
Lee Feigenbaum: ack SimonS ←
14:39:56 <AndyS> SteveH: issues not agreed on are not called out (e.g. issue-20)
Andy Seaborne: SteveH: issues not agreed on are not called out (e.g. ISSUE-20) ←
14:40:40 <AndyS> SimonS: not a contradiction as such - having trouble getting to W3C to do edits
Andy Seaborne: SimonS: not a contradiction as such - having trouble getting to W3C to do edits ←
14:42:12 <AndyS> LeeF: better to publish than polish - if we can identify the areas for issues to be called out as unresolved
Andy Seaborne: LeeF: better to publish than polish - if we can identify the areas for issues to be called out as unresolved ←
14:42:21 <AndyS> SimonS: many changes
Andy Seaborne: SimonS: many changes ←
14:42:40 <AndyS> ... reorder the doc to follows current SPARQL spec
Andy Seaborne: ... reorder the doc to follows current SPARQL spec ←
14:42:58 <AndyS> ... separate issues renamed to features in query
Andy Seaborne: ... separate issues renamed to features in query ←
14:43:07 <AndyS> ... inline issues
Andy Seaborne: ... inline issues ←
14:43:14 <AndyS> ... grammar from common grammar
Andy Seaborne: ... grammar from common grammar ←
14:43:20 <SteveH> calls out to issues are good, thanks SimonS
Steve Harris: calls out to issues are good, thanks SimonS ←
14:44:54 <AndyS> (Could the grammar changes be logged so I can test them)
Andy Seaborne: (Could the grammar changes be logged so I can test them) ←
14:46:01 <AndyS> LeeF; all decisions modulo XSLT issues
Andy Seaborne: LeeF; all decisions modulo XSLT issues ←
14:46:14 <AndyS> LeeF: all decisions modulo XSLT issues
Andy Seaborne: LeeF: all decisions modulo XSLT issues ←
14:46:37 <AndyS> ... no red stuff from xmlspec/XSLT processing
Andy Seaborne: ... no red stuff from xmlspec/XSLT processing ←
14:46:52 <AndyS> ... will roll changes back to editors docs
Andy Seaborne: ... will roll changes back to editors docs ←
14:47:44 <AxelPolleres> q+
Axel Polleres: q+ ←
14:48:45 <LukeWM> I'm happy to do a review
Luke Wilson-Mawer: I'm happy to do a review ←
14:50:03 <LeeF> PROPOSED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/update-1.0/ as FPWD under sparql11-update modulo Luke's approval of Simon's updates to text in section 4 and fixes to xml-spec issues
Lee Feigenbaum: PROPOSED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/update-1.0/ as FPWD under sparql11-update modulo Luke's approval of Simon's updates to text in section 4 and fixes to xml-spec issues ←
14:50:11 <SteveH> seconded
Steve Harris: seconded ←
14:50:18 <ivanh> +1
Ivan Herman: +1 ←
14:50:25 <bglimm> +1
Birte Glimm: +1 ←
14:50:29 <AxelPolleres> +1 (DERI)
Axel Polleres: +1 (DERI) ←
14:50:55 <AndyS> +1 (HP)
Andy Seaborne: +1 (HP) ←
14:50:59 <LeeF> RESOLVED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/update-1.0/ as FPWD under sparql11-update modulo Luke's approval of Simon's updates to text in section 4 and fixes to xml-spec issues, no abstentions or objections
Lee Feigenbaum: RESOLVED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/update-1.0/ as FPWD under sparql11-update modulo Luke's approval of Simon's updates to text in section 4 and fixes to xml-spec issues, no abstentions or objections ←
14:51:05 <AxelPolleres> q+ to ask about formality wrt query
Axel Polleres: q+ to ask about formality wrt query ←
14:51:19 <AndyS> subtopic: SPARQL/update protocol
Andy Seaborne: subtopic: SPARQL/update protocol ←
14:51:47 <AndyS> subtopic: SPARQL/Query
Andy Seaborne: subtopic: SPARQL/Query ←
14:51:52 <LeeF> PROPOSED: That the actual short name under which SPARQL 1.1 Query be published as FPWD is sparql11-query
Lee Feigenbaum: PROPOSED: That the actual short name under which SPARQL 1.1 Query be published as FPWD is sparql11-query ←
14:51:56 <ivanh> +1
Ivan Herman: +1 ←
14:51:59 <bglimm> +1
Birte Glimm: +1 ←
14:51:59 <AndyS> seconded
Andy Seaborne: seconded ←
14:52:02 <AxelPolleres> as an amendment to resolution http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2009-10-06#resolution_3
Axel Polleres: as an amendment to resolution http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2009-10-06#resolution_3 ←
14:52:05 <AxelPolleres> +1
Axel Polleres: +1 ←
14:52:12 <LeeF> RESOLVED: That the actual short name under which SPARQL 1.1 Query be published as FPWD is sparql11-query, no abstentions or objections
Lee Feigenbaum: RESOLVED: That the actual short name under which SPARQL 1.1 Query be published as FPWD is sparql11-query, no abstentions or objections ←
14:52:16 <LeeF> ack AxelPolleres
Lee Feigenbaum: ack AxelPolleres ←
14:52:16 <Zakim> AxelPolleres, you wanted to ask about formality wrt query
Zakim IRC Bot: AxelPolleres, you wanted to ask about formality wrt query ←
14:52:22 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/http-rdf-update/
Lee Feigenbaum: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/http-rdf-update/ ←
14:52:26 <AndyS> subtopic: SPARQL/update http protocol
Andy Seaborne: subtopic: SPARQL/update http protocol ←
14:52:54 <AndyS> chimezie: has addressed comments as best he can - issues highlighted
Andy Seaborne: chimezie: has addressed comments as best he can - issues highlighted ←
14:53:18 <KjetilK> q+
Kjetil Kjernsmo: q+ ←
14:53:26 <AndyS> I'm happy to publish as is.
Andy Seaborne: I'm happy to publish as is. ←
14:53:30 <SteveH> I'm happy
Steve Harris: I'm happy ←
14:53:35 <LeeF> ack kjetil
Lee Feigenbaum: ack kjetil ←
14:54:14 <AndyS> KjetilK: good enough for FPWD - but pref chnage "RDF knowledge" terminology
Andy Seaborne: KjetilK: good enough for FPWD - but pref chnage "RDF knowledge" terminology ←
14:54:46 <AndyS> LeeF: suggestions for different name?
Andy Seaborne: LeeF: suggestions for different name? ←
14:55:19 <AndyS> KjetilK: (unclear to scribe)
Andy Seaborne: KjetilK: (unclear to scribe) ←
14:55:26 <LeeF> kjetil: maybe "graph information resource"?
Lee Feigenbaum: kjetil: maybe "graph information resource"? ←
14:57:12 <AndyS> LeeF: terminology can change in later drafts. Flag an issue
Andy Seaborne: LeeF: terminology can change in later drafts. Flag an issue ←
14:57:20 <AndyS> ... flag an issue for now
Andy Seaborne: ... flag an issue for now ←
14:57:42 <LeeF> ISSUE: Suitability of term "networked RDF knowledge"
Lee Feigenbaum: ISSUE: Suitability of term "networked RDF knowledge" ←
14:57:42 <trackbot> Created ISSUE-44 - Suitability of term "networked RDF knowledge" ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/44/edit .
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ISSUE-44 - Suitability of term "networked RDF knowledge" ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/44/edit . ←
14:58:09 <LeeF> sparql11-rdf-http-update ?
Lee Feigenbaum: sparql11-rdf-http-update ? ←
14:59:18 <KjetilK> sparql11-http-update ?
Kjetil Kjernsmo: sparql11-http-update ? ←
14:59:26 <KjetilK> isn't that enough?
Kjetil Kjernsmo: isn't that enough? ←
14:59:28 <AndyS> with rdf
Andy Seaborne: with rdf ←
14:59:41 <AndyS> (not strong)
Andy Seaborne: (not strong) ←
15:00:07 <LeeF> PROPOSED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/http-rdf-update/ as sparql11-http-rdf-update modulo any xlm-spec issues
Lee Feigenbaum: PROPOSED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/http-rdf-update/ as sparql11-http-rdf-update modulo any xlm-spec issues ←
15:00:10 <ivanh> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
15:01:00 <LeeF> PROPOSED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/http-rdf-update/ as FPWD at sparql11-http-rdf-update modulo any xlm-spec issues and adding SPARQL 1.1 to title and cleaning up references
Lee Feigenbaum: PROPOSED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/http-rdf-update/ as FPWD at sparql11-http-rdf-update modulo any xlm-spec issues and adding SPARQL 1.1 to title and cleaning up references ←
15:01:01 <ivanh> ack ivan
Ivan Herman: ack ivan ←
15:01:12 <ivanh> +1
Ivan Herman: +1 ←
15:01:13 <bglimm> +1
Birte Glimm: +1 ←
15:01:25 <KjetilK> +1
Kjetil Kjernsmo: +1 ←
15:01:28 <LeeF> RESOLVED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/http-rdf-update/ as FPWD at sparql11-http-rdf-update modulo any xlm-spec issues and adding SPARQL 1.1 to title and cleaning up references, no abstentions or objections
Lee Feigenbaum: RESOLVED: Publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/http-rdf-update/ as FPWD at sparql11-http-rdf-update modulo any xlm-spec issues and adding SPARQL 1.1 to title and cleaning up references, no abstentions or objections ←
15:01:30 <AxelPolleres> +1 (DERI)
Axel Polleres: +1 (DERI) ←
15:01:48 <AndyS> subtopic: SPARQL/protocol
Andy Seaborne: subtopic: SPARQL/protocol ←
15:02:01 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/protocol-1.1/
Lee Feigenbaum: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/protocol-1.1/ ←
15:02:02 <bglimm> what is the URL for that?
Birte Glimm: what is the URL for that? ←
15:02:05 <bglimm> thanks
Birte Glimm: thanks ←
15:02:22 <Zakim> -Chimezie_Ogbuji
Zakim IRC Bot: -Chimezie_Ogbuji ←
15:02:49 <AndyS> LeeF: overall structure OK - need heading for update (language by POST) examples
Andy Seaborne: LeeF: overall structure OK - need heading for update (language by POST) examples ←
15:03:04 <bglimm> and it as XML errors
Birte Glimm: and it as XML errors ←
15:03:36 <bglimm> s/as/has/
Birte Glimm: s/as/has/ ←
15:04:02 <AndyS> <triple-pattern> ?
Andy Seaborne: <triple-pattern> ? ←
15:04:31 <AxelPolleres> q+
Axel Polleres: q+ ←
15:04:35 <LeeF> ack AxelPolleres
Lee Feigenbaum: ack AxelPolleres ←
15:04:37 <AndyS> q+
Andy Seaborne: q+ ←
15:05:07 <KjetilK> Zakim, mute me
Kjetil Kjernsmo: Zakim, mute me ←
15:05:09 <Zakim> KjetilK should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: KjetilK should now be muted ←
15:05:12 <LeeF> AxelPolleres: include short change log of what's changed since SPARQL Protocol REC
Lee Feigenbaum: AxelPolleres: include short change log of what's changed since SPARQL Protocol REC ←
15:06:37 <AndyS> LeeF: 2.2.1.13 - flag for removal
Andy Seaborne: LeeF: 2.2.1.13 - flag for removal ←
15:06:39 <LeeF> + flag XML input example for removal
Lee Feigenbaum: + flag XML input example for removal ←
15:06:44 <LeeF> + add placeholder for update examples
Lee Feigenbaum: + add placeholder for update examples ←
15:06:49 <LeeF> + change log from REC
Lee Feigenbaum: + change log from REC ←
15:06:53 <LeeF> + xml-spec issues
Lee Feigenbaum: + xml-spec issues ←
15:07:04 <LeeF> + previous editors
Lee Feigenbaum: + previous editors ←
15:07:24 <AndyS> AndyS: didn't notice 2.2.1.13 (SPARQL/X usage) last time
Andy Seaborne: AndyS: didn't notice 2.2.1.13 (SPARQL/X usage) last time ←
15:10:41 <LeeF> + clarify text at beginning of section 2 to summarize what the protocol is all about (queries over HTTP GET and POST, updates over HTTP POST)
Lee Feigenbaum: + clarify text at beginning of section 2 to summarize what the protocol is all about (queries over HTTP GET and POST, updates over HTTP POST) ←
15:12:25 <LeeF> PROPOSED: To publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/protocol-1.1/ as FPWD at sparql11-protocol modulo list of changes noted in SPARQL WG 2009-10-13 meeting and modulo Axel's approval
Lee Feigenbaum: PROPOSED: To publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/protocol-1.1/ as FPWD at sparql11-protocol modulo list of changes noted in SPARQL WG 2009-10-13 meeting and modulo Axel's approval ←
15:12:38 <bglimm> +1
Birte Glimm: +1 ←
15:12:44 <ivanh> +1
Ivan Herman: +1 ←
15:12:59 <LeeF> RESOLVED: To publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/protocol-1.1/ as FPWD at sparql11-protocol modulo list of changes noted in SPARQL WG 2009-10-13 meeting and modulo Axel's approval, no abstentions or objections
Lee Feigenbaum: RESOLVED: To publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/protocol-1.1/ as FPWD at sparql11-protocol modulo list of changes noted in SPARQL WG 2009-10-13 meeting and modulo Axel's approval, no abstentions or objections ←
15:13:05 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to check changes on http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/protocol-1.1/ as� agreed on and mail approval, if satisfied
Axel Polleres: ACTION: Axel to check changes on http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/protocol-1.1/ as� agreed on and mail approval, if satisfied ←
15:13:05 <trackbot> Could not create new action (failed to parse response from server) - please contact sysreq with the details of what happened.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Could not create new action (failed to parse response from server) - please contact sysreq with the details of what happened. ←
15:13:05 <trackbot> Could not create new action (unparseable data in server response: local variable 'd' referenced before assignment) - please contact sysreq with the details of what happened.
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15:13:14 <AndyS> subtopic: SPARQL/service description
Andy Seaborne: subtopic: SPARQL/service description ←
15:13:17 <kasei> Zakim, unmute me
Gregory Williams: Zakim, unmute me ←
15:13:17 <Zakim> kasei should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: kasei should no longer be muted ←
15:13:19 <LeeF> is http://kasei.us/2009/09/sparql/sd.txt still the latest version?
Lee Feigenbaum: is http://kasei.us/2009/09/sparql/sd.txt still the latest version? ←
15:13:38 <AndyS> kasei: no CVS access yet
Andy Seaborne: kasei: no CVS access yet ←
15:14:07 <AndyS> LeeF: modulo putting into W3C format
Andy Seaborne: LeeF: modulo putting into W3C format ←
15:14:48 <AndyS> kasei: superproperty for feature; subproperty of feature language (query and/or update)
Andy Seaborne: kasei: superproperty for feature; subproperty of feature language (query and/or update) ←
15:15:04 <AndyS> ... missing URIs for actual names
Andy Seaborne: ... missing URIs for actual names ←
15:16:06 <AndyS> LeeF: w3c resource availablity for publishing?
Andy Seaborne: LeeF: w3c resource availablity for publishing? ←
15:16:40 <bglimm> yes
Birte Glimm: yes ←
15:16:51 <AndyS> ivanh: heard CVS access problems
Andy Seaborne: ivanh: heard CVS access problems ←
15:16:58 <bglimm> I can conect to the CVS server, but I cannot access the relevant folde
Birte Glimm: I can conect to the CVS server, but I cannot access the relevant folde ←
15:16:59 <bglimm> r
Birte Glimm: r ←
15:17:17 <bglimm> I contacted Eric, but haven't heard from him
Birte Glimm: I contacted Eric, but haven't heard from him ←
15:17:29 <kasei> gwilliam
Gregory Williams: gwilliam ←
15:17:35 <bglimm> BGlimm
Birte Glimm: BGlimm ←
15:18:00 <bglimm> bglimm
Birte Glimm: bglimm ←
15:18:05 <bglimm> it is all lowercase
Birte Glimm: it is all lowercase ←
15:18:48 <AndyS> LeeF: publication window for ISWC?
Andy Seaborne: LeeF: publication window for ISWC? ←
15:19:05 <AndyS> ivanh: ISWC. Can publish late next week.
Andy Seaborne: ivanh: ISWC. Can publish late next week. ←
15:19:19 <kasei> Zakim, mute me
Gregory Williams: Zakim, mute me ←
15:19:19 <Zakim> kasei should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: kasei should now be muted ←
15:19:42 <kasei> i'd prefer not abbreviating
Gregory Williams: i'd prefer not abbreviating ←
15:19:55 <bglimm> I am happy with the full thing
Birte Glimm: I am happy with the full thing ←
15:20:01 <LeeF> PROPOSED: Publish http://kasei.us/2009/09/sparql/sd.txt as FPWD at sparql11-service-description moduloe putting in W3C format
Lee Feigenbaum: PROPOSED: Publish http://kasei.us/2009/09/sparql/sd.txt as FPWD at sparql11-service-description moduloe putting in W3C format ←
15:20:12 <bglimm> +1
Birte Glimm: +1 ←
15:20:13 <KjetilK> +1
Kjetil Kjernsmo: +1 ←
15:20:17 <ivanh> +1
Ivan Herman: +1 ←
15:20:23 <AxelPolleres> +1
Axel Polleres: +1 ←
15:20:26 <LeeF> RESOLVED: Publish http://kasei.us/2009/09/sparql/sd.txt as FPWD at sparql11-service-description moduloe putting in W3C format, no abstentions or objections
Lee Feigenbaum: RESOLVED: Publish http://kasei.us/2009/09/sparql/sd.txt as FPWD at sparql11-service-description moduloe putting in W3C format, no abstentions or objections ←
15:21:56 <bglimm> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Design:EntailmentRegimes
Birte Glimm: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Design:EntailmentRegimes ←
15:22:09 <bglimm> Zakim, unmute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, unmute me ←
15:22:09 <Zakim> bglimm should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should no longer be muted ←
15:22:50 <ivanh> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
15:22:57 <AndyS> q-
Andy Seaborne: q- ←
15:23:04 <LeeF> ack AndyS
Lee Feigenbaum: ack AndyS ←
15:23:32 <bglimm> yes
Birte Glimm: yes ←
15:23:36 <bglimm> I agree
Birte Glimm: I agree ←
15:23:54 <AndyS> AndyS; entailment RDF, RDFS are OK for FPWD
Andy Seaborne: AndyS; entailment RDF, RDFS are OK for FPWD ←
15:23:57 <AndyS> AndyS: entailment RDF, RDFS are OK for FPWD
Andy Seaborne: AndyS: entailment RDF, RDFS are OK for FPWD ←
15:23:59 <LeeF> ack ivan
Lee Feigenbaum: ack ivan ←
15:24:11 <AndyS> ... not sections on syntax or extensions
Andy Seaborne: ... not sections on syntax or extensions ←
15:24:28 <AndyS> ... lots of discussion that may imply things that are not planned
Andy Seaborne: ... lots of discussion that may imply things that are not planned ←
15:24:42 <bglimm> OWL should also be taken out/left only as a header
Birte Glimm: OWL should also be taken out/left only as a header ←
15:24:44 <AndyS> ivanh: needs adapting to W3C style.
Andy Seaborne: ivanh: needs adapting to W3C style. ←
15:24:49 <AndyS> q+
Andy Seaborne: q+ ←
15:25:40 <AndyS> ack AndyS
Andy Seaborne: ack AndyS ←
15:26:25 <bglimm> Are there other reviewers than Ivan?
Birte Glimm: Are there other reviewers than Ivan? ←
15:26:25 <LeeF> PROPOSED: To publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Design:EntailmentRegimes as FPWD at sparql11-entailment modulo putting it in W3C format, and removing details of regimes other than RDF and RDFS and removing Alternative Syntax and Extensions sections
Lee Feigenbaum: PROPOSED: To publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Design:EntailmentRegimes as FPWD at sparql11-entailment modulo putting it in W3C format, and removing details of regimes other than RDF and RDFS and removing Alternative Syntax and Extensions sections ←
15:27:05 <AxelPolleres> shall we also set someone to approve?
Axel Polleres: shall we also set someone to approve? ←
15:27:37 <AxelPolleres> +1
Axel Polleres: +1 ←
15:27:41 <ivanh> +1
Ivan Herman: +1 ←
15:27:44 <bglimm> CAn I say +1 as the editor?
Birte Glimm: CAn I say +1 as the editor? ←
15:27:44 <Zakim> -KjetilK
Zakim IRC Bot: -KjetilK ←
15:27:53 <bglimm> +1
Birte Glimm: +1 ←
15:28:06 <LeeF> RESOLVED: To publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Design:EntailmentRegimes as FPWD at sparql11-entailment modulo putting it in W3C format, and removing details of regimes other than RDF and RDFS and removing Alternative Syntax and Extensions sections, no abstentions or objections
Lee Feigenbaum: RESOLVED: To publish http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Design:EntailmentRegimes as FPWD at sparql11-entailment modulo putting it in W3C format, and removing details of regimes other than RDF and RDFS and removing Alternative Syntax and Extensions sections, no abstentions or objections ←
15:28:10 <ivanh> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
15:28:24 <ivanh> ack ivanh
Ivan Herman: ack ivanh ←
15:28:40 <LeeF> ACTION: Lee to coordinate with Axel, ivanh, Eric, and the editors to publish our documents
Lee Feigenbaum: ACTION: Lee to coordinate with Axel, ivanh, Eric, and the editors to publish our documents ←
15:28:40 <trackbot> Created ACTION-123 - Coordinate with Axel, ivanh, Eric, and the editors to publish our documents [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2009-10-20].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-123 - Coordinate with Axel, ivanh, Eric, and the editors to publish our documents [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2009-10-20]. ←
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