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SPARQL Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 08 September 2009

Agenda
http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2009-09-08
Present
Lee Feigenbaum, Steve Harris, Gregory Williams, Andy Seaborne, Paula Gearon, Birte Glimm, Unknown SimonKJ, Bijan Parsia, Chimezie Ogbuji, Ivan Herman, Eric Prud'hommeaux, Simon Schenk, Steve Harris
Regrets
Alexandre Passant, Orri Erling
Chair
Lee Feigenbaum
Scribe
Unknown SimonKJ
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2009-08-25, noting that AndyS was present link
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<SimonKJ> Present: LeeF, swh, kasei, AndyS, pgearon, bglimm, SimonKJ, bijan, chimezie, ivanh, ericP, SimonS, SteveH

Scribe problem: the name 'SimonKJ' does not match any of the 57 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Ahmed Ezzat Alexandre Passant Andrea Westerinen Andrei Lopatenko Andy Seaborne Axel Polleres Bijan Parsia Birte Glimm Bryan Thompson Chimezie Ogbuji Cui Tao Daniel Schutzer Dave Beckett David Newman Davide Palmisano Dhanapalan Kulandai Vadivel Dirk Colaert Dirk-Willem van Gulik Edward Thomas Elias Torres Enrico Franconi Eric Prud'hommeaux Frank Careccia Fred Zemke Gregory Williams Hiroyuki Sato Ivan Mikhailov Ivan Herman Jacek Kopecký Janne Saarela Jari Vänttinen Jean-François Baget Jeen Broekstra Jeff Pollock John Clark Jos De Roo Kendall Clark Kevin Wilkinson Kjetil Kjernsmo Lee Feigenbaum Luke Wilson-Mawer Michael Smith Michele Minno Nophadol Jekjantuk Orri Erling Paula Gearon Prateek Jain Rachel Yager Roland Schwaenzl Sergio Tessaris Simon Johnston Simon Schenk Souripriya Das Steve Harris Sven Groppe Timo Westkämper Yoshio Fukushige

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13:52:10 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277

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13:52:10 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 8 minutes

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13:52:11 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
13:52:11 <trackbot> Date: 08 September 2009
13:52:12 <LeeF> zakim, this will be SPARQL

Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, this will be SPARQL

13:52:12 <Zakim> ok, LeeF; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 8 minutes

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, LeeF; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 8 minutes

13:52:30 <LeeF> Chair: LeeF
13:52:41 <LeeF> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2009-09-08
13:52:48 <LeeF> LeeF has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2009-09-08

Lee Feigenbaum: LeeF has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2009-09-08

13:52:57 <LeeF> Regrets: AlexP, Orri
13:53:39 <LeeF> Possible regrets from Kjetil

Lee Feigenbaum: Possible regrets from Kjetil

13:57:35 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has now started

Zakim IRC Bot: SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has now started

14:02:12 <bijan> zakim, who is here?

Bijan Parsia: zakim, who is here?

14:02:13 <Zakim> On the phone I see LeeF, kasei (muted), AndyS, swh, pgearon, ??P11, +1.919.663.aacc

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see LeeF, kasei (muted), AndyS, swh, pgearon, ??P11, +1.919.663.aacc

14:02:24 <Zakim> On IRC I see bijan, SimonKJ, bglimm, swh, Zakim, RRSAgent, iv_an_ru, pgearon, AndyS, ivan, LeeF, karl, kasei, trackbot, ericP

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see bijan, SimonKJ, bglimm, swh, Zakim, RRSAgent, iv_an_ru, pgearon, AndyS, ivan, LeeF, karl, kasei, trackbot, ericP

14:04:17 <LeeF> zakim, who's on the phone?

Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, who's on the phone?

14:04:36 <Zakim> On the phone I see LeeF, kasei (muted), AndyS, swh, pgearon, bijan (muted), SimonKJ

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see LeeF, kasei (muted), AndyS, swh, pgearon, bijan (muted), SimonKJ

14:06:06 <LeeF> Scribe: SimonKJ

(Scribe set to Unknown SimonKJ)

14:06:19 <LeeF> PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2009-08-25

PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2009-08-25

14:06:48 <AndyS> I was there - not regrets

Andy Seaborne: I was there - not regrets

14:07:48 <LeeF> RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2009-08-25, noting that AndyS was present

RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2009-08-25, noting that AndyS was present

14:08:04 <LeeF> Next meeting: 2009-09-15 @ 15:00 BST / 10:00 EDT, Alex Passant to scribe (Scribe List)

Lee Feigenbaum: Next meeting: 2009-09-15 @ 15:00 BST / 10:00 EDT, Alex Passant to scribe (Scribe List)

14:08:25 <LeeF> -> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/F2F2

Lee Feigenbaum: -> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/F2F2

14:09:04 <bijan> I might call in if reasonable.

Bijan Parsia: I might call in if reasonable.

14:09:13 <SteveH> I'm at risk

Steve Harris: I'm at risk

14:09:46 <SimonKJ> SimonKJ still fighting the approval process

SimonKJ still fighting the approval process

14:10:08 <pgearon> The approval has to come from my manager, who has been conferencing and traveling a lot lately, so I've yet to hear

Paula Gearon: The approval has to come from my manager, who has been conferencing and traveling a lot lately, so I've yet to hear

14:10:14 <chimezie> I might be able to call in for portions of the agenda

Chimezie Ogbuji: I might be able to call in for portions of the agenda

14:11:02 <SimonKJ> if I cannot make it in person I have scheduled the time so will definitely call in

if I cannot make it in person I have scheduled the time so will definitely call in

14:12:00 <SteveH> SWIG

Steve Harris: SWIG

14:12:48 <kasei> hearing the echo here

Gregory Williams: hearing the echo here

14:13:47 <SimonKJ> direct all efforts to getting out the first public working draft; shooting for end of Sep but will likely slip into October

direct all efforts to getting out the first public working draft; shooting for end of Sep but will likely slip into October

14:14:32 <chimezie> Im not certain i can state the additional 30 mins

Chimezie Ogbuji: Im not certain i can state the additional 30 mins

14:14:39 <SteveH> I can't do 90 today

Steve Harris: I can't do 90 today

14:14:44 <chimezie> i.e., some days I'll be able to stay over  - others not so much

Chimezie Ogbuji: i.e., some days I'll be able to stay over - others not so much

14:14:44 <kasei> I may have trouble with the last few minutes (have to dash across campus to another meeting), but most of the extra 30 min should be OK.

Gregory Williams: I may have trouble with the last few minutes (have to dash across campus to another meeting), but most of the extra 30 min should be OK.

14:14:45 <SimonKJ> to that end will schedule the next few teleconferences for 90mins rather than 60; who cannot make 90

to that end will schedule the next few teleconferences for 90mins rather than 60; who cannot make 90

14:15:14 <SimonKJ> will at least try to do a few in a row starting next week

will at least try to do a few in a row starting next week

14:15:39 <ericP> i will likely have conflicts from a couple weeks onwards

Eric Prud'hommeaux: i will likely have conflicts from a couple weeks onwards

14:15:53 <bijan> OWL is finished CR and heading toward PR.

Bijan Parsia: OWL is finished CR and heading toward PR.

14:16:02 <bijan> XMLLiteral is no longer at risk, but accepted.

Bijan Parsia: XMLLiteral is no longer at risk, but accepted.

14:16:45 <ivanh> RDB2RDF should start any day (only admin left)

Ivan Herman: RDB2RDF should start any day (only admin left)

14:16:54 <LeeF> topic: FPWD Status Check

1. FPWD Status Check

14:17:25 <LeeF> -> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/open

Lee Feigenbaum: -> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/actions/open

14:17:41 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-16

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-16

14:17:42 <trackbot> ACTION-16 Send fleshed out example of Andy's subquery to the list { {?x :p ?v } { SELECT * { ?x :q ?w FILTER (?v>3) } } } closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-16 Send fleshed out example of Andy's subquery to the list { {?x :p ?v } { SELECT * { ?x :q ?w FILTER (?v>3) } } } closed

14:17:52 <AndyS> Eric helped with CVS - actions 87 and 88 are done.

Andy Seaborne: Eric helped with CVS - actions 87 and 88 are done.

14:19:14 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-87

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-87

14:19:14 <trackbot> ACTION-87 Find the editor's draft of features and rats closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-87 Find the editor's draft of features and rats closed

14:19:18 <LeeF> trackbot, close ACTION-88

Lee Feigenbaum: trackbot, close ACTION-88

14:19:18 <trackbot> ACTION-88 Figure out where to find SPARQL2 CVS edit space closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-88 Figure out where to find SPARQL2 CVS edit space closed

14:19:42 <AndyS> Query doc is: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/query-1.1/

Andy Seaborne: Query doc is: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/docs/query-1.1/

14:20:09 <SteveH> I think we both answered, go andy

Steve Harris: I think we both answered, go andy

14:21:33 <AndyS> trackbot, close ACTION-84

Andy Seaborne: trackbot, close ACTION-84

14:21:33 <trackbot> ACTION-84 And SteveH to decide whether FPWD should be inegrated or only new features closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-84 And SteveH to decide whether FPWD should be inegrated or only new features closed

14:23:22 <LeeF> ISSUE: Can variable used as aliases for expressions be themselves used in other expressions?

ISSUE: Can variable used as aliases for expressions be themselves used in other expressions?

14:23:22 <trackbot> Created ISSUE-39 - Can variable used as aliases for expressions be themselves used in other expressions? ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/39/edit .

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ISSUE-39 - Can variable used as aliases for expressions be themselves used in other expressions? ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/39/edit .

14:23:24 <AndyS> Example :  SELECT (?x+?y) AS ?z (?z+1) AS ?w

Andy Seaborne: Example : SELECT (?x+?y) AS ?z (?z+1) AS ?w

14:24:33 <chimezie> why not make it an issue then, since all we have is an 'issue' tracker

Chimezie Ogbuji: why not make it an issue then, since all we have is an 'issue' tracker

14:24:38 <chimezie> and note that we know a workaround

Chimezie Ogbuji: and note that we know a workaround

14:26:49 <LeeF> ACTION: Lee to go through issues list, figure out status, which need to be discussed in TCs, which have pending actions, which can be resolved

ACTION: Lee to go through issues list, figure out status, which need to be discussed in TCs, which have pending actions, which can be resolved

14:26:49 <trackbot> Created ACTION-89 - Go through issues list, figure out status, which need to be discussed in TCs, which have pending actions, which can be resolved [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2009-09-15].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-89 - Go through issues list, figure out status, which need to be discussed in TCs, which have pending actions, which can be resolved [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2009-09-15].

14:28:40 <ericP> q+ to ask if xmlspec variants are acceptable

Eric Prud'hommeaux: q+ to ask if xmlspec variants are acceptable

14:28:45 <SimonKJ> we have editors for the SPARQL 11 update document and update language.

we have editors for the SPARQL 11 update document and update language.

14:29:12 <ericP> 43

Eric Prud'hommeaux: 43

14:29:29 <SimonKJ> where does the work on RESTful operations, and correspondence to update protocol go?

where does the work on RESTful operations, and correspondence to update protocol go?

14:29:59 <chimezie> how much administrative overhead do we introduce with separate docs/editors

Chimezie Ogbuji: how much administrative overhead do we introduce with separate docs/editors

14:30:02 <chimezie> ?

Chimezie Ogbuji: ?

14:30:03 <SimonKJ> should RESTful operations go into the update language or in the protocol (reduce number of docs from 3 to 2)

should RESTful operations go into the update language or in the protocol (reduce number of docs from 3 to 2)

14:30:13 <chimezie> if not much, seems putting them in one document makes sense to me

Chimezie Ogbuji: if not much, seems separating them makes sense to me

14:30:26 <SimonKJ> ericP in favor of separate documents as they seem orthogonal

ericP in favor of separate documents as they seem orthogonal

14:30:48 <SimonS_> +1  to having separate documents

Simon Schenk: +1 to having separate documents

14:31:21 <bijan> Overhead : Maintaining links between, multiple documents for people to sort through, multiple documents to be reviewed and to engage with

Bijan Parsia: Overhead : Maintaining links between, multiple documents for people to sort through, multiple documents to be reviewed and to engage with

14:31:26 <chimezie> s/putting them in one document/separating them
14:31:36 <bijan> Advantages : modular, can advance at different rates, etc.

Bijan Parsia: Advantages : modular, can advance at different rates, etc.

14:33:03 <AndyS> Suggest separate docs at the moment, esp as content accumulated - can later merge in.  Reverse is harder if has been published.

Andy Seaborne: Suggest separate docs at the moment, esp as content accumulated - can later merge in. Reverse is harder if has been published.

14:33:54 <ivanh> return format?

Ivan Herman: result format?

14:34:04 <chimezie> +1 on AndyS's argument for having the second option open at a later point

Chimezie Ogbuji: +1 on AndyS's argument for having the second option open at a later point

14:34:18 <ivanh> so the number is 6 or 7...

Ivan Herman: so the number is 6 or 7...

14:34:35 <ivanh> s/return/result/
14:34:41 <bijan> But it's still "in our space"

Bijan Parsia: But it's still "in our space"

14:35:00 <ivanh> json format?

Ivan Herman: json format?

14:35:54 <SimonKJ> if the JSON format is just a note, we still have it in our space and its still active (URL?)

if the JSON format is just a note, we still have it in our space and its still active (URL?)

14:36:26 <AndyS> -> http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-json-res/

Andy Seaborne: -> http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-json-res/

14:37:15 <ericP> q

Eric Prud'hommeaux: q

14:37:16 <ivanh> -> http://www.w3.org/TR/owl2-overview/ OWL Overivew document

Ivan Herman: -> http://www.w3.org/TR/owl2-overview/ OWL Overivew document

14:37:41 <bijan> A good home page would be fine

Bijan Parsia: A good home page would be fine

14:37:44 <ericP> q+ to talk about XQuery/XSLT/F&O

Eric Prud'hommeaux: q+ to talk about XQuery/XSLT/F&O

14:37:55 <LeeF> ack ericP

Lee Feigenbaum: ack ericP

14:37:55 <Zakim> ericP, you wanted to ask if xmlspec variants are acceptable and to talk about XQuery/XSLT/F&O

Zakim IRC Bot: ericP, you wanted to ask if xmlspec variants are acceptable and to talk about XQuery/XSLT/F&O

14:38:01 <bijan> This image would be useful: http://www.w3.org/TR/owl2-overview/OWL2-structure2-800.png

Bijan Parsia: This image would be useful: http://www.w3.org/TR/owl2-overview/OWL2-structure2-800.png

14:38:53 <bijan> In OWL, the Wiki maintained cross links pretty well. but it's not just technical, it's editing, e.g., "see results format"

Bijan Parsia: In OWL, the Wiki maintained cross links pretty well. but it's not just technical, it's editing, e.g., "see results format"

14:39:13 <ivanh> q+

Ivan Herman: q+

14:39:16 <AndyS> Info : The Q doc has a results example + link.

Andy Seaborne: Info : The Q doc has a results example + link.

14:39:37 <LeeF> ack ivan

Lee Feigenbaum: ack ivan

14:40:55 <bijan> Really!??!?! Won't they wave it for content that's been IPR reviewed!??!

Bijan Parsia: Really!??!?! Won't they wave it for content that's been IPR reviewed!??!

14:42:29 <bijan> I'll note the HTML5 spec management tool: http://hg.gsnedders.com/anolis/raw-file/1.0RC1/README.html

Bijan Parsia: I'll note the HTML5 spec management tool: http://hg.gsnedders.com/anolis/raw-file/1.0RC1/README.html

14:43:21 <LeeF> (1) SPARQL/Query 1.1  (2) SPARQL/Update 1.0   (3) SPARQL/Protocol 1.1  (4) Service Description  (5) RESTful Update operations  (6) SPARQL + entailment

Lee Feigenbaum: (1) SPARQL/Query 1.1 (2) SPARQL/Update 1.0 (3) SPARQL/Protocol 1.1 (4) Service Description (5) RESTful Update operations (6) SPARQL + entailment

14:44:02 <AndyS> q+ to ask about 3

Andy Seaborne: q+ to ask about 3

14:44:15 <AndyS> (as convenient)

Andy Seaborne: (as convenient)

14:44:24 <LeeF> ack AndyS

Lee Feigenbaum: ack AndyS

14:44:24 <Zakim> AndyS, you wanted to ask about 3

Zakim IRC Bot: AndyS, you wanted to ask about 3

14:44:36 <SimonKJ> proposing 6 documents to get us to FPWD, can argue in the future around the RESTful operations

proposing 6 documents to get us to FPWD, can argue in the future around the RESTful operations

14:45:59 <SimonKJ> updates to (3) raise the WSDL issue (AndyS?)

updates to (3) raise the WSDL issue (AndyS?)

14:46:16 <AndyS> +1 to protocol 1.1

Andy Seaborne: +1 to protocol 1.1

14:46:37 <SimonKJ> proposal to version (3) as 1.1 in keeping with the agreement for (1)

proposal to version (3) as 1.1 in keeping with the agreement for (1)

14:46:57 <SimonKJ> AndyS - want to expand on the issue?

AndyS - want to expand on the issue?

14:47:15 <AndyS> After call?

Andy Seaborne: After call?

14:47:16 <bijan> http://wiki.webont.org/page/SPARQL/OWL

Bijan Parsia: http://wiki.webont.org/page/SPARQL/OWL

14:49:23 <LeeF> ACTION: Lee to work with Axel to find editors for protocol, service description, and RESTful Update operations this week

ACTION: Lee to work with Axel to find editors for protocol, service description, and RESTful Update operations this week

14:49:24 <trackbot> Created ACTION-90 - Work with Axel to find editors for protocol, service description, and RESTful Update operations this week [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2009-09-15].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-90 - Work with Axel to find editors for protocol, service description, and RESTful Update operations this week [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2009-09-15].

14:51:08 <LeeF> topic: Custom aggregates

2. Custom aggregates

14:51:09 <LeeF> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009JulSep/0248.html

Lee Feigenbaum: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2009JulSep/0248.html

14:51:59 <SteveH> +1 to custom aggregates

Steve Harris: +1 to custom aggregates

14:52:37 <pgearon> I actually liked Andy's suggestion of marking functions that are aggregate functions

Paula Gearon: I actually liked Andy's suggestion of marking functions that are aggregate functions

14:52:48 <pgearon> (even though other's didn't seem to enjoy the syntax)

Paula Gearon: (even though other's didn't seem to enjoy the syntax)

14:53:06 <SteveH> Can't you always tell from the syntactic position?

Steve Harris: Can't you always tell from the syntactic position?

14:53:12 <SteveH> eg. HAVING v's FILTER?

Steve Harris: eg. HAVING v's FILTER?

14:53:27 <pgearon> I'm just commenting on custom aggregate extensions here, not the standard ones

Paula Gearon: I'm just commenting on custom aggregate extensions here, not the standard ones

14:54:11 <SteveH> q+

Steve Harris: q+

14:54:14 <chimezie> we may need some syntactic sugar

Chimezie Ogbuji: we may need some syntactic sugar

14:54:17 <pgearon> no, because standard functions could appear in HAVING (though not vice-versa)

Paula Gearon: no, because standard functions could appear in HAVING (though not vice-versa)

14:54:20 <LeeF> ack SteveH

Lee Feigenbaum: ack SteveH

14:54:59 <pgearon> +q

Paula Gearon: +q

14:55:05 <LeeF> ack pgearon

Lee Feigenbaum: ack pgearon

14:55:48 <chimezie> +1 readability

Chimezie Ogbuji: +1 readability

14:56:03 <SimonKJ> pgearon - issue is not about processing the HAVING clause, but readability

pgearon - issue is not about processing the HAVING clause, but readability

14:56:24 <AndyS> HAVING (fn:myFunction(agg:mycount(?x))) has an aggrgeate and a regular function

Andy Seaborne: HAVING (fn:myFunction(agg:mycount(?x))) has an aggrgeate and a regular function

14:56:35 <SimonKJ> issue is that extension functions in a WHERE clause are relatively easy to understand, but in a HAVING clause may be harder to understand

issue is that extension functions in a WHERE clause are relatively easy to understand, but in a HAVING clause may be harder to understand

14:59:05 <SteveH> I'm a 0 FWIW

Steve Harris: I'm a 0 FWIW

14:59:28 <SteveH> if someone has a syntax that's not horrible I'd be more in favour

Steve Harris: if someone has a syntax that's not horrible I'd be more in favour

14:59:41 <SteveH> CUSTOM(uri, ...) would be less horrible

Steve Harris: CUSTOM(uri, ...) would be less horrible

15:01:41 <SimonKJ> AndyS - where is the update spec? LeeF, an update of the doc is due a week from today

AndyS - where is the update spec? LeeF, an update of the doc is due a week from today

15:01:52 <ivanh> bye everybody

Ivan Herman: bye everybody

15:01:53 <SteveH> bye all

Steve Harris: bye all

15:01:56 <SimonKJ> bye

bye

15:01:57 <bglimm> bye

Birte Glimm: bye

15:04:39 <bijan> Pointer to xml spec langauge?

Bijan Parsia: Pointer to xml spec langauge?

15:05:08 <bijan> Anolis, I beleive, just uses IDs on elements.

Bijan Parsia: Anolis, I beleive, just uses IDs on elements.

15:05:40 <Zakim> -bijan

Zakim IRC Bot: -bijan

15:07:14 <AndyS> SimonKJ - WSDL?

Andy Seaborne: SimonKJ - WSDL?

15:08:05 <SimonKJ> AndyS - I assume this is a previous topic rearing up again, is there a link to the conversation?

AndyS - I assume this is a previous topic rearing up again, is there a link to the conversation?

15:08:38 <Zakim> -ericP

Zakim IRC Bot: -ericP

15:09:03 <AndyS> Not a specifc thread - was recurring issue for protocol because we seemed to be first to use WSDL for HTTP for a spec.

Andy Seaborne: Not a specifc thread - was recurring issue for protocol because we seemed to be first to use WSDL for HTTP for a spec.

15:09:39 <AndyS> And to impl we less than many SOAP impls - it was (and is?) not popular for SPARQL.

Andy Seaborne: And to impl we less than many SOAP impls - it was (and is?) not popular for SPARQL.

15:11:52 <pgearon> quoll71

Paula Gearon: quoll71

15:13:16 <AndyS> CEST

Andy Seaborne: CEST

15:13:56 <AndyS> www.timeanddate.com

Andy Seaborne: www.timeanddate.com

15:14:58 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended

15:14:59 <Zakim> Attendees were LeeF, +1.518.276.aaaa, kasei, AndyS, +1.312.863.aabb, swh, pgearon, Bijan, bglimm, SimonKJ, Chimezie_Ogbuji, Ivan, +49.261.287.aadd, ericP, SimonS_, +1.937.775.aaee

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were LeeF, +1.518.276.aaaa, kasei, AndyS, +1.312.863.aabb, swh, pgearon, Bijan, bglimm, SimonKJ, Chimezie_Ogbuji, Ivan, +49.261.287.aadd, ericP, SimonS_, +1.937.775.aaee



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