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13:36:34 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7332
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13:36:34 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDFa()10:00AM scheduled to start in 24 minutes
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13:36:35 <trackbot> Meeting: RDF Web Applications Working Group Teleconference
13:36:35 <trackbot> Date: 26 May 2011
13:59:41 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
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13:59:43 <Zakim> SW_RDFa()10:00AM has now started
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14:00:04 <Steven> Steven has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2011May/0076
Steven Pemberton: Steven has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2011May/0076 ←
14:00:22 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
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14:00:22 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
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14:00:24 <Zakim> +Steven
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14:00:30 <Zakim> +??P16
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14:00:37 <Steven> rrsagent, here?
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14:00:37 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2011/05/26-rdfa-irc#T14-00-37
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14:00:41 <Zakim> + +49.631.205.75.aaaa
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14:00:52 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
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14:00:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/05/26-rdfa-minutes.html Steven
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14:00:52 <Benjamin> zakim, i am aaaa
Benjamin Adrian: zakim, i am aaaa ←
14:00:52 <Zakim> +Benjamin; got it
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14:01:27 <Steven> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2011May/0076
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14:01:30 <Zakim> +??P8
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14:01:34 <Steven> Chair: Manu
14:00:04 <manu1> Present: Benjamin Adrian, Ivan Herman, Knud Möller, Manu Sporny, Sebastian Germesin, Shane McCarron, Steven
14:01:35 <manu1> zakim, I am ??P8
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14:01:37 <Steven> Scribe: Steven
(Scribe set to Steven Pemberton)
14:01:37 <Steven> scribenick: Steven
14:01:43 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
rrsagent, make minutes ←
14:01:43 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/05/26-rdfa-minutes.html Steven
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14:01:54 <Zakim> +manu1; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +manu1; got it ←
14:01:56 <SebastianGermesin> zakim, i am aabb
Sebastian Germesin: zakim, i am aabb ←
14:02:02 <Zakim> +SebastianGermesin; got it
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14:02:36 <Steven> Topic: Introductions - Sebastian
14:02:47 <Steven> Sebastian: See my email on the list
Sebastian Germesin: See my email on the list ←
14:03:13 <Zakim> +ShaneM
Zakim IRC Bot: +ShaneM ←
14:03:28 <Steven> Ivan: Haven't seen it
Ivan Herman: Haven't seen it ←
14:03:54 <Steven> Ivan: Reminder for people to rejoin the group
Ivan Herman: Reminder for people to rejoin the group ←
14:04:30 <manu1> zakim, who is here?
Manu Sporny: zakim, who is here? ←
14:04:30 <Zakim> On the phone I see Ivan, Steven, Benjamin, SebastianGermesin, manu1, ShaneM
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Ivan, Steven, Benjamin, SebastianGermesin, manu1, ShaneM ←
14:04:32 <Zakim> On IRC I see ShaneM, Steven, Benjamin, manu1, Zakim, RRSAgent, danbri, SebastianGermesin, ivan, manu, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see ShaneM, Steven, Benjamin, manu1, Zakim, RRSAgent, danbri, SebastianGermesin, ivan, manu, trackbot ←
14:07:26 <Steven> Sebastian: I am researcher at German research centre for Artificial Intelligence in Saarbruechen, PhD thesis, EU funded, researching interaction patterns
Sebastian Germesin: I am researcher at German research centre for Artificial Intelligence in Saarbruechen, PhD thesis, EU funded, researching interaction patterns ←
14:07:59 <Steven> ... see my mail for more details when it arrives
... see my mail for more details when it arrives ←
14:08:28 <Steven> ... my research led me to RDFa, and am happy to join the group, hope I can add valuable input
... my research led me to RDFa, and am happy to join the group, hope I can add valuable input ←
14:08:47 <Steven> ... this is my first W3C WG, sorry for being a newby
... this is my first W3C WG, sorry for being a newby ←
14:09:14 <Steven> ... I work with Henry B[xx]
... I work with Henry Berguis ←
14:09:35 <Steven> Manu: What is the project IKS trying to do?
Manu Sporny: What is the project IKS trying to do? ←
14:10:00 <Steven> Sebastian: About CMSs and the technology stack needed to support them
Sebastian Germesin: About CMSs and the technology stack needed to support them ←
14:10:29 <Steven> ... Apache incubator group [yy] to define entities in text
... Apache incubator group Stanbol to define entities in text ←
14:10:47 <Zakim> +Knud
Zakim IRC Bot: +Knud ←
14:10:59 <Steven> s/[yy]/Stanbol
14:11:04 <manu1> http://incubator.apache.org/stanbol/
Manu Sporny: http://incubator.apache.org/stanbol/ ←
14:11:14 <Knud> zakim, mute me
Knud Möller: zakim, mute me ←
14:11:14 <Zakim> Knud should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Knud should now be muted ←
14:11:37 <Steven> Manu: Other technologies?
Manu Sporny: Other technologies? ←
14:11:40 <manu1> Henri Berguis
Manu Sporny: Henri Berguis ←
14:11:48 <Steven> Sebastian: JSON, RDFa, [one other]
Sebastian Germesin: JSON, RDFa, [one other] ←
14:12:22 <Steven> s/[xx]/erguis/
14:12:34 <Steven> q+
q+ ←
14:13:36 <Steven> Q-
Q- ←
14:14:27 <Zakim> -ShaneM
Zakim IRC Bot: -ShaneM ←
14:15:03 <ivan> -> http://www.w3.org/2009/CommonScribe/manual Common scribe manual
Ivan Herman: -> http://www.w3.org/2009/CommonScribe/manual Common scribe manual ←
14:15:37 <Zakim> +ShaneM
Zakim IRC Bot: +ShaneM ←
14:16:24 <manu1> Topic: RDFa news and updates on spec progress
14:16:56 <Steven> Manu: HTML5+RDFa and HTML4+RDFa entered last call
Manu Sporny: HTML5+RDFa and HTML4+RDFa entered last call ←
14:17:02 <Steven> ... this is good news
... this is good news ←
14:17:16 <Steven> ... all browser manufacturers voted against them
... all browser manufacturers voted against them ←
14:17:31 <Steven> ... everyone else was positive
... everyone else was positive ←
14:17:50 <Steven> ... I don't understand the browser manufacturers votes.
... I don't understand the browser manufacturers votes. ←
14:17:57 <Steven> ... But Microsoft was positive!
... But Microsoft was positive! ←
14:18:31 <Steven> Ivan: Charles's comment (opera) was lukewarm, but not hostile
Ivan Herman: Charles's comment (opera) was lukewarm, but not hostile ←
14:19:53 <manu1> http://intertwingly.net/stories/2011/05/23/lastcall.html#xq8
Manu Sporny: http://intertwingly.net/stories/2011/05/23/lastcall.html#xq8 ←
14:20:23 <manu1> The poll results w/ comments are here: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/html5-last-call-poll/results
Manu Sporny: The poll results w/ comments are here: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/html5-last-call-poll/results ←
14:22:23 <Steven> [Manu reads some responses]
[Manu reads some responses] ←
14:24:13 <Steven> q+
q+ ←
14:24:21 <Steven> Manu: State of validator?
Manu Sporny: State of validator? ←
14:24:35 <Steven> Ivan: Ongoing, not sure of final status
Ivan Herman: Ongoing, not sure of final status ←
14:24:57 <Steven> ... up and running this week, haven't seen it yet
... up and running this week, haven't seen it yet ←
14:25:16 <Steven> ... we should ask again, maybe due to someone on holiday
... we should ask again, maybe due to someone on holiday ←
14:25:20 <Steven> ... it will happen
... it will happen ←
14:25:50 <Steven> ... the HTML5 bit is not so sure.
... the HTML5 bit is not so sure. ←
14:26:10 <manu1> Steven: What is the status of HTML5+RDFa? Is HTML4+RDFa tied to it?
Steven Pemberton: What is the status of HTML5+RDFa? Is HTML4+RDFa tied to it? [ Scribe Assist by Manu Sporny ] ←
14:26:17 <Steven> Steven: Presumably the HTML5+RDFa document references HTML5 and so can only move ahead when it does
Steven Pemberton: Presumably the HTML5+RDFa document references HTML5 and so can only move ahead when it does ←
14:26:19 <Steven> Ivan: Yes
Ivan Herman: Yes ←
14:27:00 <Steven> Shane: HTML4+RDFa, who publishes it?
Shane McCarron: HTML4+RDFa, who publishes it? ←
14:27:29 <Steven> Ivan: No separate document for that.
Ivan Herman: No separate document for that. ←
14:27:33 <Steven> Shane: Pity.
Shane McCarron: Pity. ←
14:27:40 <Steven> Manu: Nothing we can do about it.
Manu Sporny: Nothing we can do about it. ←
14:28:32 <Steven> [Sebastian's introduction email -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2011May/0082.html]
[Sebastian's introduction email -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2011May/0082.html] ←
14:28:42 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
rrsagent, make minutes ←
14:28:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/05/26-rdfa-minutes.html Steven
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/05/26-rdfa-minutes.html Steven ←
14:32:07 <Zakim> -ShaneM
Zakim IRC Bot: -ShaneM ←
14:32:08 <manu1> Topic: RDF Interfaces, RDF API and RDFa API testing
14:32:56 <Steven> Benjamin: My PhD is blocking me working on it at the moment, but maybe I can work together with Sebastian
Benjamin Adrian: My PhD is blocking me working on it at the moment, but maybe I can work together with Sebastian ←
14:33:21 <Steven> Manu: Nathan is busy too; so the two main editors are not available
Manu Sporny: Nathan is busy too; so the two main editors are not available ←
14:33:34 <Steven> ... I'm worried that the work will stall
... I'm worried that the work will stall ←
14:34:41 <Benjamin> q+
Benjamin Adrian: q+ ←
14:34:53 <manu1> ack Steven
Manu Sporny: ack Steven ←
14:35:07 <SebastianGermesin> q+
Sebastian Germesin: q+ ←
14:35:18 <manu1> Niklas Linstrom
Manu Sporny: Niklas Linstrom ←
14:35:22 <Benjamin> Niklas Kindsröm
Benjamin Adrian: Niklas Kindsröm ←
14:35:26 <Steven> Benjamin: How about asking Niklas Lindstrom?
Benjamin Adrian: How about asking Niklas Lindström? ←
14:36:02 <Steven> s/Lindstrom/Lindström
14:36:09 <manu1> ack SebastianGermesin
Manu Sporny: ack SebastianGermesin ←
14:36:09 <Steven> Manu: Good idea
Manu Sporny: Good idea ←
14:36:12 <manu1> ack Benjamin
Manu Sporny: ack Benjamin ←
14:36:34 <Steven> Sebastian: I've recently been looking at all the documents, for some of them I have implementations, so maybe I can contribute
Sebastian Germesin: I've recently been looking at all the documents, for some of them I have implementations, so maybe I can contribute ←
14:37:33 <Steven> Manu: We just need to be sure people are woking on it; I should ping Nathan again. We need two interoperable implementations
Manu Sporny: We just need to be sure people are woking on it; I should ping Nathan again. We need two interoperable implementations ←
14:37:57 <Steven> Ivan: At this moment, our concern is the document editing
Ivan Herman: At this moment, our concern is the document editing ←
14:38:38 <Steven> Manu: I'm signing up for that
Manu Sporny: I'm signing up for that ←
14:38:55 <Steven> Ivan: Can you manage three documents?
Ivan Herman: Can you manage three documents? ←
14:39:14 <Steven> Manu: Maybe
Manu Sporny: Maybe ←
14:39:23 <Steven> ... depends on how much work it is
... depends on how much work it is ←
14:39:40 <Steven> ... it's only a temporary solution over the next couple of weeks
... it's only a temporary solution over the next couple of weeks ←
14:40:41 <Steven> Manu: Sebastian, would you be available for document editing.
Manu Sporny: Sebastian, would you be available for document editing? ←
14:40:45 <Steven> Sebastian: Yes.
Sebastian Germesin: Yes. ←
14:40:54 <Steven> s/editing./editing?/
14:44:24 <Steven> Benjamin: what about these guys implementing rdfquery: http://code.google.com/p/rdfquery/people/list
Benjamin Adrian: what about these guys implementing rdfquery: http://code.google.com/p/rdfquery/people/list ←
14:44:36 <Steven> Manu: Good idea
Manu Sporny: Good idea ←
14:45:10 <Steven> Sebastian: I will ask those guys
Sebastian Germesin: I will ask those guys ←
14:45:54 <Steven> ACTION: Sebastian to ask the RDFQuery people if they want to get involved
ACTION: Sebastian to ask the RDFQuery people if they want to get involved ←
14:45:54 <trackbot> Created ACTION-80 - Ask the RDFQuery people if they want to get involved [on Sebastian Germesin - due 2011-06-02].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-80 - Ask the RDFQuery people if they want to get involved [on Sebastian Germesin - due 2011-06-02]. ←
14:46:58 <Steven> ACTION; Benjamin to ask Niklas Lindström if he wants to get involved
ACTION; Benjamin to ask Niklas Lindström if he wants to get involved ←
14:47:10 <Steven> ACTION: Sebastian to ask the RDFQuery people if they want to get involved
ACTION: Sebastian to ask the RDFQuery people if they want to get involved ←
14:47:10 <trackbot> Created ACTION-81 - Ask the RDFQuery people if they want to get involved [on Sebastian Germesin - due 2011-06-02].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-81 - Ask the RDFQuery people if they want to get involved [on Sebastian Germesin - due 2011-06-02]. ←
14:47:22 <Steven> ACTION: Benjamin to ask Niklas Lindström if he wants to get involved
ACTION: Benjamin to ask Niklas Lindström if he wants to get involved ←
14:47:22 <trackbot> Created ACTION-82 - Ask Niklas Lindström if he wants to get involved [on Benjamin Adrian - due 2011-06-02].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-82 - Ask Niklas Lindström if he wants to get involved [on Benjamin Adrian - due 2011-06-02]. ←
14:47:34 <Steven> close action-81
14:47:34 <trackbot> ACTION-81 Ask the RDFQuery people if they want to get involved closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-81 Ask the RDFQuery people if they want to get involved closed ←
14:49:24 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
14:49:44 <manu1> ack ivan
Manu Sporny: ack ivan ←
14:50:25 <Steven> Ivan: We have a model on how the tests work on the RDFa parts, nice and automatic; how would we do it with the javascripting part?
Ivan Herman: We have a model on how the tests work on the RDFa parts, nice and automatic; how would we do it with the javascripting part? ←
14:50:28 <manu1> q+
Manu Sporny: q+ ←
14:50:35 <manu1> ack manu1
Manu Sporny: ack manu1 ←
14:50:45 <Steven> Manu: Don't kjow if we can do it in the same way
Manu Sporny: Don't know if we can do it in the same way ←
14:50:52 <Steven> s/kj/kn/
14:52:18 <Steven> ... qunit is better at testing APIs
... qunit is better at testing APIs ←
14:53:00 <Steven> Ivan: How do we report the results
Ivan Herman: How do we report the results? ←
14:53:07 <Steven> s/results/results?/
14:53:15 <Steven> ... hopefully automatic
... hopefully automatic ←
14:53:23 <Steven> Manu: We used to use EARL
Manu Sporny: We used to use EARL ←
14:53:53 <Steven> ... we'd have to do the same for the API
... we'd have to do the same for the API ←
14:54:12 <Steven> Ivan: we should talk to some of the other API WGs
Ivan Herman: we should talk to some of the other API WGs ←
14:59:46 <Steven> Ivan: We need to check that the RDF and RDFa APIs are consitent
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Ivan Herman: We need to check that the RDF and RDFa APIs are consistent ←
14:59:59 <Steven> s/tent/stent/
15:00:47 <Steven> Ivan: We also need to plan dates for CR for Core and for XHTML+
Ivan Herman: We also need to plan dates for CR for Core and for XHTML+ ←
15:01:00 <Steven> Manu: Shane's working on it; he's been sick
Manu Sporny: Shane's working on it; he's been sick ←
15:01:41 <Steven> Ivan: Administratively it is complicated
Ivan Herman: Administratively it is complicated ←
15:02:15 <Steven> ... and Summer is coming
... and Summer is coming ←
15:02:35 <Steven> ... so we need to plan the dates now
... so we need to plan the dates now ←
15:03:49 <Steven> Manu: OK I'll put priority on the last call comments and so on.
Manu Sporny: OK I'll put priority on the last call comments and so on. ←
15:04:05 <ivan> zakim, drop me
Ivan Herman: zakim, drop me ←
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