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13:56:20 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7332
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13:56:21 <trackbot> Meeting: RDF Web Applications Working Group Teleconference
13:56:21 <trackbot> Date: 07 April 2011
13:56:21 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDFa()10:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
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14:01:08 <manu> Chair: Manu
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14:01:21 <Zakim> + +44.123.456.aaaa
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14:01:39 <Benjamin> zakim, I am aaaa
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14:01:40 <manu> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2011Apr/0016.html
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14:02:29 <manu> zakim, I am ??P17
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14:02:29 <Zakim> +manu; got it
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14:03:19 <Zakim> +ShaneM
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14:03:27 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
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14:03:27 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
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14:03:29 <Zakim> +Ivan
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14:03:58 <manu> zakim, who is on the phone?
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14:03:58 <Zakim> On the phone I see Benjamin, manu, ShaneM, Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Benjamin, manu, ShaneM, Ivan ←
14:03:59 <manu> Present: Ivan, Ted, Benjamin, Manu, ShaneM, Steven
14:04:21 <manu> Regrets: Nathan
14:04:40 <ShaneM> ScribeNick: ShaneM
(Scribe set to Shane McCarron)
14:05:19 <manu> Topic: RDFa Web Apps WG Administration
14:05:19 <ShaneM> Manu: We have a number of administrative items to get through today
Manu Sporny: We have a number of administrative items to get through today ←
14:05:20 <ShaneM> ShaneM: I HATE this new name - it doesn't have RDFa in there anywhere. It's like having a group called "The Web Serialization Formats Working Group" and then having them be the group that works on HTML.
Shane McCarron: I HATE this new name - it doesn't have RDFa in there anywhere. It's like having a group called "The Web Serialization Formats Working Group" and then having them be the group that works on HTML. ←
14:05:21 <ShaneM> Ivan: This was a long discussion, it was the name that generated the least amount of grumbles.
Ivan Herman: This was a long discussion, it was the name that generated the least amount of grumbles. ←
14:05:34 <manu> Subtopic: Old members and IEs joining the new WG
14:06:21 <ivan> zakim, drop me
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14:06:22 <Zakim> -Ivan
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14:06:52 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
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14:06:52 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
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14:06:54 <Zakim> +Ivan
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14:07:13 <manu> zakim, drop Ivan
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14:07:14 <Zakim> Ivan is being disconnected
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14:07:14 <Zakim> -Ivan
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14:09:42 <ShaneM> Manu: You need to rejoin this group (via your AC rep).
Manu Sporny: You need to rejoin this group (via your AC rep). ←
14:10:26 <manu> To rejoin the group, please fill out this form: http://www.w3.org/2004/01/pp-impl/44350/join
Manu Sporny: To rejoin the group, please fill out this form: http://www.w3.org/2004/01/pp-impl/44350/join ←
14:10:17 <ShaneM> (I note that Manu and ShaneM managed to renew membership through this link)
(I note that Manu and ShaneM managed to renew membership through this link) ←
14:10:28 <manu> Subtopic: Introduction of new RDF Web Apps WG members
14:10:37 <ShaneM> Manu: Two new members in the group: Thomas Steiner, from Google, and Ted Thibodeau from OpenLink
Manu Sporny: Two new members in the group: Thomas Steiner, from Google, and Ted Thibodeau from OpenLink ←
14:11:07 <ShaneM> ... Joined to work on the APIs
... Joined to work on the APIs ←
14:11:09 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
Ivan Herman: zakim, dial ivan-voip ←
14:11:09 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
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14:11:10 <Zakim> +Ivan
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14:12:17 <ShaneM> Steven is here, but has no phone today.
Steven is here, but has no phone today. ←
14:14:27 <Zakim> -Benjamin
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14:15:58 <Zakim> +benjamin
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14:15:59 <ivan> http://dev.iptc.org/rNews
Ivan Herman: http://dev.iptc.org/rNews ←
14:16:14 <manu> Manu: New York Times and IPTC launched rNews draft standard this week - great news!
Manu Sporny: New York Times and IPTC launched rNews draft standard this week - great news! [ Scribe Assist by Manu Sporny ] ←
14:17:29 <Benjamin> This is really a great news!
Benjamin Adrian: This is really a great news! ←
14:17:40 <ShaneM> Manu: They're focusing upon RDF and RDFa - but also support Microformats via hNews. The NYT has rich semantic data, hand-curated going back to the early 1900s. They want to be the public record for all the news in the world - semantics make sense for them.
Manu Sporny: They're focusing upon RDF and RDFa - but also support Microformats via hNews. The NYT has rich semantic data, hand-curated going back to the early 1900s. They want to be the public record for all the news in the world - semantics make sense for them. ←
14:18:37 <Steven_> +1
Steven Pemberton: +1 ←
14:19:23 <Steven_> Mark and I talked to IPTC years ago on using rdfa. Glad it's finally happened
Steven Pemberton: Mark and I talked to IPTC years ago on using rdfa. Glad it's finally happened ←
14:19:25 <ShaneM> Yes, it seems that many of us have had contact with them over the years and it finally resonated with a number of people there. Evan Sandhaus gets a great deal of the credit for making this happen - he's been very forward-looking with semantics and the news industry. Lots of others involved and responsible for the push to adopt rNews, of course. It's going to really pay off for the international news community in the long run.
Yes, it seems that many of us have had contact with them over the years and it finally resonated with a number of people there. Evan Sandhaus gets a great deal of the credit for making this happen - he's been very forward-looking with semantics and the news industry. Lots of others involved and responsible for the push to adopt rNews, of course. It's going to really pay off for the international news community in the long run. ←
14:22:26 <manu> Topic: HTML WG ISSUE-120: prefixes in HTML5+RDFa
14:22:31 <manu> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Mar/0689.html
Manu Sporny: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Mar/0689.html ←
14:23:12 <ShaneM> Manu: Chairs went very deep in their rationale, it was a fair decision.
Manu Sporny: Chairs went very deep in their rationale, it was a fair decision. ←
14:23:59 <manu> Topic: ISSUE-85: Projections and Property Groups
14:24:16 <manu> Manu: Projections and Property Groups are now a single concept. The API is cleaner because of it, the cognitive load on the developer has been lessed because of it - it is a good change as far as Nathan and I are concerned.
Manu Sporny: Projections and Property Groups are now a single concept. The API is cleaner because of it, the cognitive load on the developer has been lessed because of it - it is a good change as far as Nathan and I are concerned. [ Scribe Assist by Manu Sporny ] ←
14:24:16 <ShaneM> This has been integrated and Nathan and Manu think they look nice.
This has been integrated and Nathan and Manu think they look nice. ←
14:24:46 <ShaneM> It has simplified things a lot. Made things easier to use.
It has simplified things a lot. Made things easier to use. ←
14:25:23 <ShaneM> This is probably resolvable assuming Ivan and Benjamin are happy with it.
This is probably resolvable assuming Ivan and Benjamin are happy with it. ←
14:25:27 <ShaneM> Ivan: I am happy with it.
Ivan Herman: I am happy with it. ←
14:25:41 <ShaneM> manu: let's let this ISSUE hang out until more people have reviewed the document.
Manu Sporny: let's let this ISSUE hang out until more people have reviewed the document. ←
14:25:54 <ShaneM> ivan: we should ensure that Thomas has reviewed it before we publish.
Ivan Herman: we should ensure that Thomas has reviewed it before we publish. ←
14:26:11 <Benjamin> I can have a look at it tomorrow.
Benjamin Adrian: I can have a look at it tomorrow. ←
14:26:18 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software
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14:26:30 <Ted> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me ←
14:26:30 <Zakim> +Ted; got it
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14:26:30 <Ted> zakim, mute me
Ted Thibodeau: zakim, mute me ←
14:26:31 <Zakim> Ted should now be muted
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14:26:32 <Ted> :-)
Ted Thibodeau: :-) ←
14:26:48 <Ted> Zakim, unmute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, unmute me ←
14:26:48 <Zakim> Ted should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Ted should no longer be muted ←
14:28:56 <manu> Topic: Publication of new WDs for RDFa API and RDF API
14:29:12 <manu> Manu: We need to discuss when we are going to publish these documents... soon, hopefully
Manu Sporny: We need to discuss when we are going to publish these documents... soon, hopefully [ Scribe Assist by Manu Sporny ] ←
14:29:13 <manu> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-primer/
Manu Sporny: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-primer/ ←
14:29:14 <manu> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-api/
Manu Sporny: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdfa-api/ ←
14:29:15 <manu> http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdf-api/
Manu Sporny: http://www.w3.org/2010/02/rdfa/sources/rdf-api/ ←
14:30:01 <ShaneM> We are planning to resolve to publish the RDFa API next Thursday.
We are planning to resolve to publish the RDFa API next Thursday. ←
14:30:12 <ShaneM> We would also like to publish the Primer at the same time.
We would also like to publish the Primer at the same time. ←
14:30:40 <Steven_> (May 2005 was when Mark and I spoke at the IPTC annual meeting on using RDFa!)
Steven Pemberton: (May 2005 was when Mark and I spoke at the IPTC annual meeting on using RDFa!) ←
14:31:18 <ShaneM> Benjamin: I can go through the Primer tomorrow.
Benjamin Adrian: I can go through the Primer tomorrow. ←
14:31:27 <ShaneM> manu: please do that and send comments to the mailing list.
Manu Sporny: please do that and send comments to the mailing list. ←
14:32:43 <ShaneM> So publication schedule would be 19 April
So publication schedule would be 19 April ←
14:33:00 <ShaneM> ivan: We might want to try to get votes via email for people who are not going to be on the call.
Ivan Herman: We might want to try to get votes via email for people who are not going to be on the call. ←
14:33:08 <manu> ACTION: Manu to collect votes for publication of RDFa API and RDFa Primer by next Thursday via mailing list
ACTION: Manu to collect votes for publication of RDFa API and RDFa Primer by next Thursday via mailing list ←
14:33:08 <trackbot> Created ACTION-71 - Collect votes for publication of RDFa API and RDFa Primer by next Thursday via mailing list [on Manu Sporny - due 2011-04-14].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-71 - Collect votes for publication of RDFa API and RDFa Primer by next Thursday via mailing list [on Manu Sporny - due 2011-04-14]. ←
14:35:03 <manu> Topic: RDFa Core mentioning "latest version"
14:35:06 <ShaneM> ShaneM: There have been a few comments on the mailing list that "latest version" is confusing - we should tighten up the language, it's an editorial change.
Shane McCarron: There have been a few comments on the mailing list that "latest version" is confusing - we should tighten up the language, it's an editorial change. ←
14:35:10 <ShaneM> Manu: Why don't you float something out to the mailing list and if nobody has an issue with it, just make the edit. It's clearly an editorial change and we should be more specific.
Manu Sporny: Why don't you float something out to the mailing list and if nobody has an issue with it, just make the edit. It's clearly an editorial change and we should be more specific. ←
14:35:15 <ShaneM> ShaneM: I'll do that.
Shane McCarron: I'll do that. ←
14:36:47 <Zakim> -ShaneM
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14:37:13 <Zakim> -benjamin
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14:40:30 <Steven_> zakim, who is on the call?
Steven Pemberton: zakim, who is on the call? ←
14:40:30 <Zakim> On the phone I see manu, Ivan, Ted
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see manu, Ivan, Ted ←
14:41:58 <Zakim> -manu
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14:42:03 <ivan> zakim, drop me
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14:42:03 <Zakim> Ivan is being disconnected
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14:42:05 <Zakim> -Ivan
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14:42:07 <Zakim> SW_RDFa()10:00AM has ended
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14:42:09 <Zakim> Attendees were +44.123.456.aaaa, Benjamin, manu, ShaneM, Ivan, Ted
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were +44.123.456.aaaa, Benjamin, manu, ShaneM, Ivan, Ted ←
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