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14:50:58 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/10/18-rdfa-irc
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14:51:08 <mhausenblas> zakim, this will be SW_SWD(RDFa)
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Unknown mhausenblas: zakim, this will be SW_SWD(RDFa) ←
14:51:08 <Zakim> ok, mhausenblas; I see SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM scheduled to start in 9 minutes
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, mhausenblas; I see SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM scheduled to start in 9 minutes ←
14:51:17 <mhausenblas> Meeting: W3C RDF-in-XHTML TF - Telecon 2007-10-18, 15:00 UTC
14:51:24 <mhausenblas> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Oct/0180.html
14:51:31 <mhausenblas> -> http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-rdfa-minutes.html previous 2007-10-11
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Unknown mhausenblas: -> http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-rdfa-minutes.html previous 2007-10-11 ←
14:51:38 <mhausenblas> Chair: Ben
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14:51:45 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
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Unknown mhausenblas: RRSAgent, draft minutes ←
14:51:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/10/18-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas
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14:51:51 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, make logs public
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Unknown mhausenblas: RRSAgent, make logs public ←
14:55:57 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
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Unknown mhausenblas: RRSAgent, draft minutes ←
14:55:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/10/18-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas
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14:57:18 <msporny> or a list of Zakim commands?
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Unknown msporny: or a list of Zakim commands? ←
14:57:51 <Ralph> -> http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html Zakim irc bot instructions
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Unknown Ralph: -> http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html Zakim irc bot instructions ←
14:58:29 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has now started
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has now started ←
14:58:32 <Zakim> +Michael_Hausenblas
Zakim IRC Bot: +Michael_Hausenblas ←
14:59:04 <Zakim> +Ralph
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ralph ←
14:59:06 <Zakim> -Ralph
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Zakim IRC Bot: -Ralph ←
14:59:07 <Zakim> +Ralph
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ralph ←
15:02:51 <markbirbeck> zakim, gimme the codes please.
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Unknown markbirbeck: zakim, gimme the codes please. ←
15:02:51 <Zakim> I don't understand 'gimme the codes please', markbirbeck
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'gimme the codes please', markbirbeck ←
15:02:55 <Zakim> +??P11
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15:02:57 <markbirbeck> zakim, codes?
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Unknown markbirbeck: zakim, codes? ←
15:02:57 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, markbirbeck.
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, markbirbeck. ←
15:03:02 <markbirbeck> zakim, code?
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Unknown markbirbeck: zakim, code? ←
15:03:02 <Zakim> the conference code is 7332 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), markbirbeck
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 7332 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), markbirbeck ←
15:03:11 <Ralph> zakim, ??p11 is Manu
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Unknown Ralph: zakim, ??p11 is Manu ←
15:03:12 <Zakim> +Manu; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Manu; got it ←
15:03:45 <Zakim> +??P13
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P13 ←
15:03:47 <markbirbeck> zakim, i am ?
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Unknown markbirbeck: zakim, i am ? ←
15:03:47 <Zakim> +markbirbeck; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +markbirbeck; got it ←
15:04:58 <Zakim> +ShaneM
Zakim IRC Bot: +ShaneM ←
15:05:28 <Zakim> + +1.617.395.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.617.395.aaaa ←
15:06:34 <Simone> Zakim, who i speaking?
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Unknown Simone: Zakim, who i speaking? ←
15:06:34 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, Simone.
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, Simone. ←
15:06:36 <Ralph> zakim, aaaa is Ben
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Unknown Ralph: zakim, aaaa is Ben ←
15:06:36 <Zakim> +Ben; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ben; got it ←
15:06:39 <Simone> Zakim, who is speaking?
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Unknown Simone: Zakim, who is speaking? ←
15:06:49 <Zakim> Simone, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Ben (85%), Michael_Hausenblas (20%)
Zakim IRC Bot: Simone, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Ben (85%), Michael_Hausenblas (20%) ←
15:06:53 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
15:06:54 <msporny> I can re-connect if needed, Ralph?
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Unknown msporny: I can re-connect if needed, Ralph? ←
15:07:01 <Simone> Zakim, IPcaller is me
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Unknown Simone: Zakim, IPcaller is me ←
15:07:01 <Zakim> +Simone; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Simone; got it ←
15:08:10 <Simone> Zakim, who is speaking?
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Unknown Simone: Zakim, who is speaking? ←
15:08:20 <Zakim> Simone, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Michael_Hausenblas (68%), Simone (16%)
Zakim IRC Bot: Simone, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Michael_Hausenblas (68%), Simone (16%) ←
15:10:19 <benadida> next telecon is Friday 26 october, 1400 UTC
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Unknown benadida: next telecon is Friday 26 october, 1400 UTC ←
15:10:29 <benadida> zakim, pick a victim
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Unknown benadida: zakim, pick a victim ←
15:10:29 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Simone
Zakim IRC Bot: Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Simone ←
15:10:36 <mhausenblas> ScribeNick: mhausenblas
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(Scribe set to Unknown mhausenblas)
15:10:54 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
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RRSAgent, draft minutes ←
15:10:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/10/18-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/10/18-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas ←
15:12:21 <mhausenblas> Ben: There are certain edge cases we need to iron out, but we are on a good way
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Unknown Ben: There are certain edge cases we need to iron out, but we are on a good way ←
15:12:28 <mhausenblas> Topic: Action Items
15:12:35 <mhausenblas> -> http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-rdfa-minutes.html#ActionSummary
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-> http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-rdfa-minutes.html#ActionSummary ←
15:14:19 <mhausenblas> Ralph: Syntax Document - process issues are clear for Shane/Steven?
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Unknown Ralph: Syntax Document - process issues are clear for Shane/Steven? ←
15:14:41 <mhausenblas> Shane: Steven is currently on holiday - rest offline
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Unknown Shane: Steven is currently on holiday - rest offline ←
15:15:32 <mhausenblas> Ben: So this will be the draft we propose for publication
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Unknown Ben: So this will be the draft we propose for publication ←
15:15:37 <mhausenblas> [NEW] ACTION: All look at tests 46 - 53 and write what you believe the correct triples are [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action10]
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[NEW] ACTION: All look at tests 46 - 53 and write what you believe the correct triples are [recorded in ACTION-10]">http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-10] ←
15:15:51 <mhausenblas> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Oct/0175.html Ben's init the thread
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-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Oct/0175.html Ben's init the thread ←
15:17:05 <mhausenblas> -- done
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-- done ←
15:17:05 <mhausenblas> -- done
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-- done ←
15:17:23 <mhausenblas> [NEW] ACTION: Ben to set up a proper scribe schedule [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action01]
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[NEW] ACTION: Ben to set up a proper scribe schedule [recorded in ACTION-01]">http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-01] ←
15:17:27 <mhausenblas> -- continues
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-- continues ←
15:17:32 <mhausenblas> [NEW] ACTION: Michael to find a more appropriate predicate than foaf:knows for TC46-53 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action09]
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[NEW] ACTION: Michael to find a more appropriate predicate than foaf:knows for TC46-53 [recorded in ACTION-09]">http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-09] ←
15:17:38 <mhausenblas> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Oct/0181.html Manu implicitly resovled it
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-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Oct/0181.html Manu implicitly resovled it ←
15:17:51 <mhausenblas> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Oct/0181.html Manu implicitly resovled it
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-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Oct/0181.html Manu implicitly resovled it ←
15:17:59 <mhausenblas> -> http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/#term_maker foaf:maker
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-> http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/#term_maker foaf:maker ←
15:18:09 <mhausenblas> -- done
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-- done ←
15:18:19 <mhausenblas> [PENDING] ACTION: Ben to add status of various implementations on rdfa.info [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/04-rdfa-minutes.html#action06]
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[PENDING] ACTION: Ben to add status of various implementations on rdfa.info [recorded in ACTION-06]">http://www.w3.org/2007/10/04-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-06] ←
15:18:24 <mhausenblas> -- continues
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-- continues ←
15:18:29 <mhausenblas> [PENDING] ACTION: Michael make sure to confirm a design for checking that the ASK SPARQL queries evaluate (yes/no) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/09/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action07]
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[PENDING] ACTION: Michael make sure to confirm a design for checking that the ASK SPARQL queries evaluate (yes/no) [recorded in ACTION-07]">http://www.w3.org/2007/09/06-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-07] ←
15:18:35 <mhausenblas> -- done
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15:18:42 <mhausenblas> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Oct/0171.html Michael's proposal
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-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Oct/0171.html Michael's proposal ←
15:19:32 <mhausenblas> [PENDING] ACTION: Michael to create "Microformats done right -- unambiguous taxonomies via RDF" on the wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/23-rdfa-minutes.html#action06]
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[PENDING] ACTION: Michael to create "Microformats done right -- unambiguous taxonomies via RDF" on the wiki [recorded in ACTION-06]">http://www.w3.org/2007/08/23-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-06] ←
15:20:02 <mhausenblas> -- continues
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15:20:23 <mhausenblas> Topic: Test Cases Review and Approval (46-53, 54-56)
15:20:35 <mhausenblas> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Oct/0170.html Manu's proposed TC validator
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-> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Oct/0170.html Manu's proposed TC validator ←
15:20:42 <Ralph> scribenick: ralph
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(Scribe set to Unknown ralph)
15:20:54 <Ralph> Michael: Manu proposed a wonderful implementation of a test case validator
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Unknown Michael: Manu proposed a wonderful implementation of a test case validator [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:21:06 <Ralph> ... I'd accept a formal action shared with Manu to implement this
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Unknown Ralph: ... I'd accept a formal action shared with Manu to implement this ←
15:21:20 <Ralph> ... both as an on-line service and as a downloadable tool
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Unknown Ralph: ... both as an on-line service and as a downloadable tool ←
15:21:41 <Ralph> ... downloadable version would run locally but still fetch test resources from w3.org
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Unknown Ralph: ... downloadable version would run locally but still fetch test resources from w3.org ←
15:21:59 <Ralph> Manu: Ivan's help is necessary for pyrdfa bits
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Unknown Manu: Ivan's help is necessary for pyrdfa bits [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:23:35 <Ralph> ACTION: Michael and Manu investigate with Ivan the implementation of the test case validator proposal on w3.org
ACTION: Michael and Manu investigate with Ivan the implementation of the test case validator proposal on w3.org ←
15:23:49 <mhausenblas> -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/ TC
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Unknown mhausenblas: -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/ TC ←
15:24:17 <Ralph> -- test 46
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Unknown Ralph: -- test 46 ←
15:24:35 <Ralph> Michael: I've not yet made the foaf:knows -> foaf:maker change; please assume that correction has been made
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Unknown Michael: I've not yet made the foaf:knows -> foaf:maker change; please assume that correction has been made [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:24:47 <Ralph> Manu, Ben: 46 ok
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Unknown Ralph: Manu, Ben: 46 ok ←
15:25:27 <Ralph> Mark: we're still going to have the @instanceof discussion, right?
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Unknown Mark: we're still going to have the @instanceof discussion, right? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:26:14 <Ralph> Ben: I'm pretty sure Mark and I agree in the case of test 46
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Unknown Ben: I'm pretty sure Mark and I agree in the case of test 46 [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:26:33 <Ralph> Mark: the @instanceof discussion that Ben and I are having does apply to test 46 as well
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Unknown Mark: the @instanceof discussion that Ben and I are having does apply to test 46 as well [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:26:47 <Ralph> ... I've sent Ben a long email
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Unknown Ralph: ... I've sent Ben a long email ←
15:26:57 <Ralph> ... I would apply @instanceof to a subject that sits before the @rel
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Unknown Ralph: ... I would apply @instanceof to a subject that sits before the @rel ←
15:27:18 <Ralph> Ben: so you'd have @instanceof inheriting something?
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Unknown Ben: so you'd have @instanceof inheriting something? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:27:34 <Ralph> Mark: no, @instance of would create a bnode on the div and @rel and @instanceof both apply to this bnode
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Unknown Mark: no, @instance of would create a bnode on the div and @rel and @instanceof both apply to this bnode [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:27:52 <Ralph> Ben: so there would be 2 bnodes?
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Unknown Ben: so there would be 2 bnodes? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:27:53 <Ralph> Mark: yes
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Unknown Mark: yes [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:28:29 <Ralph> ... I'm not opposed to changing if there are use cases that require Ben's interpretation
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Unknown Ralph: ... I'm not opposed to changing if there are use cases that require Ben's interpretation ←
15:28:43 <Ralph> Manu: this will affect all the test cases
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Unknown Manu: this will affect all the test cases [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:30:21 <Ralph> Michael: shall we put test 46 on hold pending decision on how @instanceof works?
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Unknown Michael: shall we put test 46 on hold pending decision on how @instanceof works? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:30:24 <Ralph> Ben: yes
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Unknown Ben: yes [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:30:28 <Ralph> -- test 47
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Unknown Ralph: -- test 47 ←
15:31:17 <Ralph> Mark: if the question is whether these test are consistent, then, yes; but if the question is whether we agree on the triples, then no
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Unknown Mark: if the question is whether these test are consistent, then, yes; but if the question is whether we agree on the triples, then no [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:31:26 <Ralph> ... I think @instanceof should apply to the subject
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Unknown Ralph: ... I think @instanceof should apply to the subject ←
15:31:41 <Ralph> Ben: I'm confused because I thought these were the ones we agreed on
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Unknown Ben: I'm confused because I thought these were the ones we agreed on [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:32:12 <Ralph> Mark: if @resource was on its own, then I'd agree that @instanceof applies to it
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Unknown Mark: if @resource was on its own, then I'd agree that @instanceof applies to it [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:33:02 <Ralph> ... e.g. if @rel were omitted from test 47, then we might have the same interpretation
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Unknown Ralph: ... e.g. if @rel were omitted from test 47, then we might have the same interpretation ←
15:34:25 <mhausenblas> q+
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Unknown mhausenblas: q+ ←
15:35:16 <Ralph> Ralph: are these differences in interpretation of the language in the document or differences revealed by having some actual triples to look at?
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Unknown Ralph: are these differences in interpretation of the language in the document or differences revealed by having some actual triples to look at? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:35:46 <Ralph> Mark: to be fair, I've agreed to let the document proceed even though I disagree with some of it
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Unknown Mark: to be fair, I've agreed to let the document proceed even though I disagree with some of it [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:36:05 <Ralph> ... looks to me like test 48 works the way I expect
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Unknown Ralph: ... looks to me like test 48 works the way I expect ←
15:37:20 <Ralph> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Oct/0175.html "Evaluation of Test Cases 46-53" [Ben 2007-10-17]
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Unknown Ralph: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Oct/0175.html "Evaluation of Test Cases 46-53" [Ben 2007-10-17] ←
15:37:30 <Ralph> Manu: perhaps there is agreement on test 49?
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Unknown Manu: perhaps there is agreement on test 49? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:37:47 <Ralph> Mark, Ben: test 49 is OK
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Unknown Ralph: Mark, Ben: test 49 is OK ←
15:37:57 <Ralph> Mark: I say @about always applies
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Unknown Mark: I say @about always applies [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:38:12 <Ralph> Ben: this is the one wierd case where I could be convinced to create a bnode
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Unknown Ben: this is the one wierd case where I could be convinced to create a bnode [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:38:56 <Ralph> ... I agree this test gives the right triples
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Unknown Ralph: ... I agree this test gives the right triples ←
15:39:11 <Ralph> RESOLVED: test 49 approved
RESOLVED: test 49 approved ←
15:39:54 <Ralph> q+ to ask about semantics in 49
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Unknown Ralph: q+ to ask about semantics in 49 ←
15:40:03 <Ralph> Manu: perhaps we agree on 50 also?
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Unknown Manu: perhaps we agree on 50 also? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:40:23 <mhausenblas> +1
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Unknown mhausenblas: +1 ←
15:40:23 <msporny> ASK WHERE {
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Unknown msporny: ASK WHERE { ←
15:40:23 <msporny> _:a <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/name> "John Doe" .
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Unknown msporny: _:a <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/name> "John Doe" . ←
15:40:23 <msporny> _:a <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type>
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Unknown msporny: _:a <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type> ←
15:40:23 <msporny> <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/Person> .
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Unknown msporny: <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/Person> . ←
15:40:26 <msporny> }
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Unknown msporny: } ←
15:40:41 <Ralph> Manu: the sparql is wrong; should be as posted above
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Unknown Manu: the sparql is wrong; should be as posted above [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:41:22 <Ralph> Mark: test 50 is fine with me
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Unknown Mark: test 50 is fine with me [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:41:32 <Ralph> ... bnode created on the DIV and the property applies to that bnode
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Unknown Ralph: ... bnode created on the DIV and the property applies to that bnode ←
15:41:41 <Ralph> RESOLVED: test 50 approved
RESOLVED: test 50 approved ←
15:42:01 <Zakim> Ralph, you wanted to ask about semantics in 49
Zakim IRC Bot: Ralph, you wanted to ask about semantics in 49 ←
15:42:24 <Ralph> Ralph: TAG would object to us suggesting that example.org's home page has rdf:type foaf:Person
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Unknown Ralph: TAG would object to us suggesting that example.org's home page has rdf:type foaf:Person [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:42:30 <Ralph> Michael: add #me then
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Unknown Michael: add #me then [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:42:34 <Ralph> Ralph: OK
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Unknown Ralph: OK [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:43:13 <Ralph> -- test 51
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Unknown Ralph: -- test 51 ←
15:43:46 <Ralph> Mark: on test 51 I'd still create the bnode first and attach the property to it
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Unknown Mark: on test 51 I'd still create the bnode first and attach the property to it [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:44:02 <Ralph> Ben: we've said for a long time that @instanceof is syntactic sugar for a child element
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Unknown Ben: we've said for a long time that @instanceof is syntactic sugar for a child element [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:44:11 <Ralph> Mark: yes, but not any element
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Unknown Mark: yes, but not any element [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:44:21 <Ralph> ... we'd said that LINK and META apply to the parent
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Unknown Ralph: ... we'd said that LINK and META apply to the parent ←
15:44:29 <mhausenblas> we could at least resolve the semantic issue in TC51
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Unknown mhausenblas: we could at least resolve the semantic issue in TC51 ←
15:44:36 <mhausenblas> as Manu put outin his review
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Unknown mhausenblas: as Manu put out in his review ←
15:44:37 <Ralph> Shane: child of LINK or when LINK is a child? LINK's content model is empty
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Unknown Shane: child of LINK or when LINK is a child? LINK's content model is empty [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:44:38 <mhausenblas> <h1 instanceof="foaf:Document" property="foaf:topic">
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Unknown mhausenblas: <h1 instanceof="foaf:Document" property="foaf:topic"> ←
15:44:55 <mhausenblas> s/outin/out in
15:45:49 <Ralph> Mark: we used to have @role be a long-handed way of adding predicates to a parent element
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Unknown Mark: we used to have <link rel="xh:role" href="..." \ be a long-handed way of adding predicates to a parent element [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:46:06 <Ralph> Manu: the question is about precedence
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Unknown Manu: the question is about precedence [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:46:23 <Ralph> ... it seems consistent that @instanceof without @about always creates a bnode
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Unknown Ralph: ... it seems consistent that @instanceof without @about always creates a bnode ←
15:46:36 <Ralph> Ben: the question is "on what element"?
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Unknown Ben: the question is "on what element"? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:46:50 <Ralph> ... I think the property picks up a subject before the bnode is identified
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Unknown Ralph: ... I think the property picks up a subject before the bnode is identified ←
15:47:18 <markbirbeck> s/we used to have @role/we used to have <link rel="xh:role" href="..." \/>/
15:48:02 <Ralph> Ralph: if you need to make assumptions about the order of processing of attributes, does that affect either of these interpretations?
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Unknown Ralph: if you need to make assumptions about the order of processing of attributes, does that affect either of these interpretations? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:48:17 <Ralph> Ben, Mark: we think order of processing does affect both interpretations
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Unknown Ralph: Ben, Mark: we think order of processing does affect both interpretations ←
15:48:28 <Ralph> Manu: @@scribe didn't capture
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Unknown Manu: @@scribe didn't capture [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:48:46 <Ralph> Ben: one interpretation makes certain use cases very difficult to write
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Unknown Ben: one interpretation makes certain use cases very difficult to write [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:48:51 <Ralph> Manu: but not impossible
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Unknown Manu: but not impossible [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:49:08 <Ralph> ... the goal is to make something that is consistent
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Unknown Ralph: ... the goal is to make something that is consistent ←
15:49:15 <Ralph> Ben: no, the goal is to meet our use cases
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Unknown Ben: no, the goal is to meet our use cases [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:49:31 <Ralph> ... how do you write "I know another person"?
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Unknown Ralph: ... how do you write "I know another person"? ←
15:49:41 <Ralph> ... without chaining, this becomes very difficult
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Unknown Ralph: ... without chaining, this becomes very difficult ←
15:49:50 <Ralph> ... came up first when we considered bibtex
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Unknown Ralph: ... came up first when we considered bibtex ←
15:50:11 <Ralph> ... wanting to give an rdf:type to the author of a paper
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Unknown Ralph: ... wanting to give an rdf:type to the author of a paper ←
15:50:32 <Ralph> Manu: we may have conflicting goals; consistency vs. use cases
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Unknown Manu: we may have conflicting goals; consistency vs. use cases [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:50:38 <Ralph> Ben: I think we've always had those conflicts
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Unknown Ben: I think we've always had those conflicts [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:50:55 <msporny> <div about="#me" rel="foaf:knows" resource="#ben">
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Unknown msporny: <div about="#me" rel="foaf:knows" resource="#ben"> ←
15:51:02 <Ralph> ... I agree that Mark's interpretation is definitely consistent
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Unknown Ralph: ... I agree that Mark's interpretation is definitely consistent ←
15:51:49 <Ralph> -- test 52
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Unknown Ralph: -- test 52 ←
15:51:56 <markbirbeck> I see Ben's issue. I've realised that we are missing one element of the 'old' chaining that we don't have now.
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Unknown markbirbeck: I see Ben's issue. I've realised that we are missing one element of the 'old' chaining that we don't have now. ←
15:52:01 <markbirbeck> In this:
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Unknown markbirbeck: In this: ←
15:52:03 <Ralph> Ben: if I heard Mark correctly, we might agree on 52
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Unknown Ben: if I heard Mark correctly, we might agree on 52 [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:52:04 <markbirbeck> <div about="#me" rel="foaf:knows" instanceof="foaf:Person">
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Unknown markbirbeck: <div about="#me" rel="foaf:knows" instanceof="foaf:Person"> ←
15:52:04 <markbirbeck> <div rel="foaf:knows" instanceof="foaf:Person">
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15:52:04 <markbirbeck> <div rel="foaf:knows" instanceof="foaf:Person">
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Unknown markbirbeck: <div rel="foaf:knows" instanceof="foaf:Person"> ←
15:52:04 <markbirbeck> ...for ever...
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Unknown markbirbeck: ...for ever... ←
15:52:04 <markbirbeck> </div>
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Unknown markbirbeck: </div> ←
15:52:05 <markbirbeck> </div>
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Unknown markbirbeck: </div> ←
15:52:07 <markbirbeck> </div>
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Unknown markbirbeck: </div> ←
15:52:15 <markbirbeck> We used to make the object/subject line up.
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Unknown markbirbeck: We used to make the object/subject line up. ←
15:52:25 <Ralph> Ben: Mark's example in irc is a good example
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Unknown Ben: Mark's example in irc is a good example [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:52:36 <markbirbeck> If we were to explicitly 'align' them, would that resolve it for you, Ben?
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Unknown markbirbeck: If we were to explicitly 'align' them, would that resolve it for you, Ben? ←
15:53:13 <Ralph> Mark: in the case of 52, I see @resource working just like @about
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Unknown Mark: in the case of 52, I see @resource working just like @about [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:53:21 <Ralph> Michael: needs #me again
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Unknown Michael: needs #me again [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:53:45 <Ralph> Mark, Ben: agree on 52
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Unknown Ralph: Mark, Ben: agree on 52 ←
15:53:58 <Ralph> Mark: the example I just posted in irc ...
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Unknown Mark: the example I just posted in irc ... [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:54:21 <Ralph> ... when we first had chaining (before we'd removed and readded it), it was more explicit that the object of one became the subject of the other
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Unknown Ralph: ... when we first had chaining (before we'd removed and readded it), it was more explicit that the object of one became the subject of the other ←
15:54:36 <Ralph> ... with one more rule, I think this addresses Ben's use case
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Unknown Ralph: ... with one more rule, I think this addresses Ben's use case ←
15:55:01 <Ralph> RESOLVED: test 52 approved, pending addition of #me
RESOLVED: test 52 approved, pending addition of #me ←
15:55:05 <Ralph> -- test 53
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Unknown Ralph: -- test 53 ←
15:55:32 <Ralph> Ben: one triple is missing from the SPARQL
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Unknown Ben: one triple is missing from the SPARQL [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:55:37 <Ralph> ... add #me again
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Unknown Ralph: ... add #me again ←
15:56:27 <Ralph> Michael: in the future, I will clean proposed test cases for semantic bugs first before adding them to the test suite
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Unknown Michael: in the future, I will clean proposed test cases for semantic bugs first before adding them to the test suite [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:56:35 <Ralph> ... for discussion
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Unknown Ralph: ... for discussion ←
15:57:07 <Ralph> Manu: consider completely different properties; e.g. type foaf:Document
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Unknown Manu: consider completely different properties; e.g. type foaf:Document [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
15:57:47 <msporny> ASK WHERE {
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15:57:47 <msporny> <http://www.example.org>
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15:57:47 <msporny> <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type>
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15:57:47 <msporny> <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/Person> .
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15:57:47 <msporny> <http://www.example.org>
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15:57:48 <msporny> <http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/name>
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15:57:50 <msporny> "John Doe".
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Unknown msporny: "John Doe". ←
15:57:52 <msporny> }
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Unknown msporny: } ←
15:58:42 <Ralph> Ben, Mark: agree with Manu's triples in irc
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Unknown Ralph: Ben, Mark: agree with Manu's triples in irc ←
15:58:51 <Ralph> RESOLVED, test 53 accepted pending addition of #me
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Unknown Ralph: RESOLVED, test 53 accepted pending addition of #me ←
15:59:11 <Ralph> -- test 54
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Unknown Ralph: -- test 54 ←
15:59:35 <Ralph> (multiple properites)
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15:59:44 <Ralph> Ben, Mark: look good to us
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Unknown Ralph: Ben, Mark: look good to us ←
15:59:51 <Ralph> RESOLVED, test 54 accepted
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Unknown Ralph: RESOLVED, test 54 accepted ←
15:59:55 <Ralph> -- test 55
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Unknown Ralph: -- test 55 ←
16:00:03 <Ralph> Ben: 55 uses @rel instead of @property
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Unknown Ben: 55 uses @rel instead of @property [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
16:00:31 <Ralph> Ben, Mark: 55 looks good to us
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Unknown Ralph: Ben, Mark: 55 looks good to us ←
16:00:35 <Ralph> RESOLVED, test 55 accepted
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Unknown Ralph: RESOLVED, test 55 accepted ←
16:00:47 <Ralph> -- test 56
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Unknown Ralph: -- test 56 ←
16:00:52 <Ralph> Michael: 56 is a smorgasbord
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Unknown Michael: 56 is a smorgasbord [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
16:01:27 <Ralph> Ben: if it's a reasonable and correct example, I see no reason to refuse it as a test
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Unknown Ben: if it's a reasonable and correct example, I see no reason to refuse it as a test [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
16:01:40 <Ralph> Michael: I want to understand if it introduces anything new
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Unknown Michael: I want to understand if it introduces anything new [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
16:01:45 <Ralph> ... it's a matter of time
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Unknown Ralph: ... it's a matter of time ←
16:01:52 <Ralph> ... I don't see anything new in test 56
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Unknown Ralph: ... I don't see anything new in test 56 ←
16:02:11 <Ralph> Manu: might catch if a developer has inserted a whole bunch of hacks
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Unknown Manu: might catch if a developer has inserted a whole bunch of hacks [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
16:02:44 <Ralph> Mark: consider numbering such tests starting with a higher number
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Unknown Mark: consider numbering such tests starting with a higher number [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
16:02:49 <Ralph> Ralph: how about 200 ? :)
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Unknown Ralph: how about 200 ? :) [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
16:02:53 <Ralph> Manu: like torture tests?
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Unknown Manu: like torture tests? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
16:03:15 <Ralph> Michael: I'll pick 1000
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Unknown Michael: I'll pick 1000 [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
16:03:47 <msporny> ASK WHERE {
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Unknown msporny: ASK WHERE { ←
16:03:47 <msporny> <http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0056.xhtml#event1>
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Unknown msporny: <http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0056.xhtml#event1> ←
16:03:47 <msporny> <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type>
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Unknown msporny: <http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#type> ←
16:03:47 <msporny> <http://www.w3.org/2002/12/cal/icaltzd#Vevent> .
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Unknown msporny: <http://www.w3.org/2002/12/cal/icaltzd#Vevent> . ←
16:03:47 <msporny> <http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0056.xhtml#event1>
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Unknown msporny: <http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0056.xhtml#event1> ←
16:03:48 <msporny> <http://www.w3.org/2002/12/cal/icaltzd#summary> "Weekend off in Iona" .
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Unknown msporny: <http://www.w3.org/2002/12/cal/icaltzd#summary> "Weekend off in Iona" . ←
16:03:50 <msporny> <http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0056.xhtml#event1>
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Unknown msporny: <http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0056.xhtml#event1> ←
16:03:52 <msporny> <http://www.w3.org/2002/12/cal/icaltzd#dtstart>
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Unknown msporny: <http://www.w3.org/2002/12/cal/icaltzd#dtstart> ←
16:03:55 <msporny> "2006-10-21"^^<http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#date> .
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Unknown msporny: "2006-10-21"^^<http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#date> . ←
16:03:56 <msporny> <http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0056.xhtml#event1>
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Unknown msporny: <http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0056.xhtml#event1> ←
16:03:58 <msporny> <http://www.w3.org/2002/12/cal/icaltzd#dtend>
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Unknown msporny: <http://www.w3.org/2002/12/cal/icaltzd#dtend> ←
16:04:00 <msporny> "2006-10-23"^^<http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#date> .
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Unknown msporny: "2006-10-23"^^<http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema#date> . ←
16:04:02 <msporny> <http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0056.xhtml#event1>
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Unknown msporny: <http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0056.xhtml#event1> ←
16:04:04 <msporny> <http://www.w3.org/2002/12/cal/icaltzd#url> <http://freetime.example.org/> .
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Unknown msporny: <http://www.w3.org/2002/12/cal/icaltzd#url> <http://freetime.example.org/> . ←
16:04:06 <msporny> <http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0056.xhtml#event1>
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Unknown msporny: <http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0056.xhtml#event1> ←
16:04:08 <msporny> <http://www.w3.org/2002/12/cal/icaltzd#location> "Iona, UK" .
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Unknown msporny: <http://www.w3.org/2002/12/cal/icaltzd#location> "Iona, UK" . ←
16:04:10 <msporny> }
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Unknown msporny: } ←
16:04:12 <msporny> "rdf:type" needed to be expanded, also missing a "." at the end of
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Unknown msporny: "rdf:type" needed to be expanded, also missing a "." at the end of ←
16:04:14 <msporny> the next-to-last statement.
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Unknown msporny: the next-to-last statement. ←
16:04:17 <Ralph> Manu: there are two errors in the SPARQL; missing rdf:type
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Unknown Manu: there are two errors in the SPARQL; missing rdf:type [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
16:04:42 <Ralph> Mark, Ben: 56 looks good to us
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Unknown Ralph: Mark, Ben: 56 looks good to us ←
16:04:52 <Ralph> RESOLVED: test 56 accepted, renamed to 1001
RESOLVED: test 56 accepted, renamed to 1001 ←
16:05:02 <mhausenblas> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Oct/0173.html Ivan's concerns on approved TC
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Unknown mhausenblas: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Oct/0173.html Ivan's concerns on approved TC ←
16:05:33 <Ralph> Michael: Ivan asked us to reconsider tests 11 and 29
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Unknown Michael: Ivan asked us to reconsider tests 11 and 29 [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
16:05:49 <Ralph> ... both concern the handling of whitespace
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Unknown Ralph: ... both concern the handling of whitespace ←
16:06:02 <Ralph> Ben: Ivan has a good point particularly w.r.t. handling of PRE
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Unknown Ben: Ivan has a good point particularly w.r.t. handling of PRE [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
16:06:21 <Ralph> ACTION: Ben enter Ivan's concerns in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Oct/0173.html as issues in tracker
ACTION: Ben enter Ivan's concerns in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Oct/0173.html as issues in tracker ←
16:06:59 <Ralph> Shane: the syntax draft asks "what is the default value for @instanceof"
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Unknown Shane: the syntax draft asks "what is the default value for @instanceof" [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
16:07:04 <Ralph> ... this is a schema implementation issue
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Unknown Ralph: ... this is a schema implementation issue ←
16:07:09 <Ralph> ... do we know an answer?
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Unknown Ralph: ... do we know an answer? ←
16:07:14 <Ralph> Ben: can the default be null?
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Unknown Ben: can the default be null? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
16:07:24 <Ralph> Mark: but that would make every DIV be a bnode
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Unknown Mark: but that would make every DIV be a bnode [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
16:07:33 <Ralph> Ben: that's why I proposed null
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Unknown Ben: that's why I proposed null [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
16:08:05 <Ralph> ... since @instanceof changes the way subject interpretation occurs, it should not have a default value
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Unknown Ralph: ... since @instanceof changes the way subject interpretation occurs, it should not have a default value ←
16:08:15 <Ralph> ... @instanceof="" should not be the same as omitting @instanceof
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Unknown Ralph: ... @instanceof="" should not be the same as omitting @instanceof ←
16:08:48 <Ralph> Shane: so the answer is there is no default value from a DTD implementation perspective, but there is a default interpretation from an RDFa implementation perspective
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Unknown Shane: so the answer is there is no default value from a DTD implementation perspective, but there is a default interpretation from an RDFa implementation perspective [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ] ←
16:09:17 <Ralph> scribenick: mhausenblas
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(Scribe set to Unknown mhausenblas)
16:09:19 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
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RRSAgent, draft minutes ←
16:09:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/10/18-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas
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16:09:25 <mhausenblas> Topic: State of Documents
16:09:45 <mhausenblas> Shane: Work on Syntax and will forward it to Ralph
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Unknown Shane: Work on Syntax and will forward it to Ralph ←
16:10:13 <mhausenblas> Ben: Regarding Primer I worked in a lot of comments, incl. BobDC
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Unknown Ben: Regarding Primer I worked in a lot of comments, incl. BobDC ←
16:10:31 <mhausenblas> ... won't be around on upcoming SWD telecon
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... won't be around on upcoming SWD telecon ←
16:11:44 <mhausenblas> Ben: Need to request it via mail
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Unknown Ben: Need to request it via mail ←
16:12:13 <mhausenblas> Ralph: Also remind the chairs for critical issues
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Unknown Ralph: Also remind the chairs for critical issues ←
16:12:15 <mhausenblas> Topic: Schedule for next Telecons
16:12:26 <mhausenblas> Next Friday, 26 Oct 14:00UTC
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Next Friday, 26 Oct 14:00UTC ←
16:12:36 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
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RRSAgent, draft minutes ←
16:12:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/10/18-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas
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16:12:43 <Zakim> -Manu
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16:12:45 <Zakim> -ShaneM
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16:12:45 <Zakim> -Michael_Hausenblas
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16:12:49 <Zakim> -Ralph
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16:12:54 <Ralph> zakim, list participants
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Unknown Ralph: zakim, list participants ←
16:12:54 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Michael_Hausenblas, Ralph, Manu, markbirbeck, ShaneM, +1.617.395.aaaa, Ben, Simone
Zakim IRC Bot: As of this point the attendees have been Michael_Hausenblas, Ralph, Manu, markbirbeck, ShaneM, +1.617.395.aaaa, Ben, Simone ←
16:13:08 <Zakim> -Simone
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16:14:18 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
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RRSAgent, draft minutes ←
16:14:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/10/18-rdfa-minutes.html mhausenblas
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16:17:42 <Ralph> [I have just changed next week's telecon reservation to Friday, 1 hour earlier -- http://www.w3.org/Guide/1998/08/teleconference-calendar#D20071026 ]
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Unknown Ralph: [I have just changed next week's telecon reservation to Friday, 1 hour earlier -- http://www.w3.org/Guide/1998/08/teleconference-calendar#D20071026 ] ←
16:17:51 <Ralph> zakim, bye
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Unknown Ralph: zakim, bye ←
16:17:51 <Zakim> leaving. As of this point the attendees were Michael_Hausenblas, Ralph, Manu, markbirbeck, ShaneM, +1.617.395.aaaa, Ben, Simone
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16:18:04 <Ralph> rrsagent, bye
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Unknown Ralph: rrsagent, bye ←
16:18:04 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/18-rdfa-actions.rdf :
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/18-rdfa-actions.rdf : ←
16:18:04 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Michael and Manu investigate with Ivan the implementation of the test case validator proposal on w3.org [1]
ACTION: Michael and Manu investigate with Ivan the implementation of the test case validator proposal on w3.org [1] ←
16:18:04 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/18-rdfa-irc#T15-23-35
RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/18-rdfa-irc#T15-23-35 ←
16:18:04 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ben enter Ivan's concerns in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Oct/0173.html as issues in tracker [2]
ACTION: Ben enter Ivan's concerns in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Oct/0173.html as issues in tracker [2] ←
16:18:04 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/18-rdfa-irc#T16-06-21
RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/18-rdfa-irc#T16-06-21 ←
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