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15:57:53 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 73394
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15:57:53 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDFWG()11:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
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15:57:54 <trackbot> Meeting: RDF Working Group Teleconference
15:57:54 <trackbot> Date: 07 November 2012
15:57:58 <AndyS> zakim, this is 73394
Andy Seaborne: zakim, this is 73394 ←
15:57:59 <Zakim> ok, AndyS; that matches SW_RDFWG()11:00AM
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15:58:07 <AndyS> zakim, who is on the phone?
Andy Seaborne: zakim, who is on the phone? ←
15:58:07 <Zakim> On the phone I see [IPcaller], [IPcaller.a]
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15:58:15 <AndyS> zakim, IPCaller is me
Andy Seaborne: zakim, IPCaller is me ←
15:58:15 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +AndyS; got it ←
15:58:20 <AndyS> zakim, who is on the phone?
Andy Seaborne: zakim, who is on the phone? ←
15:58:20 <Zakim> On the phone I see AndyS, [IPcaller.a]
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15:58:27 <Zakim> + +31.20.598.aaaa
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15:58:29 <Zakim> +Tom_Baker (was [IPcaller.a])
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15:58:32 <Zakim> - +31.20.598.aaaa
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15:58:47 <Zakim> + +1.408.992.aabb
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15:59:16 <Zakim> + +31.20.598.aacc
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15:59:18 <Zakim> +[GVoice]
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15:59:30 <gavinc> Zakim, GVoice is me
Gavin Carothers: Zakim, GVoice is me ←
15:59:30 <Zakim> +gavinc; got it
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15:59:42 <Guus> zakim, +31.20.598 is me
Guus Schreiber: zakim, +31.20.598 is me ←
15:59:43 <Zakim> +Guus; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Guus; got it ←
15:59:55 <Guus> chair: Guus
16:00:06 <tbaker> zakim, I am Tom_Baker
Thomas Baker: zakim, I am Tom_Baker ←
16:00:06 <Zakim> ok, tbaker, I now associate you with Tom_Baker
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16:00:10 <Guus> zakim, who is here?
Guus Schreiber: zakim, who is here? ←
16:00:10 <Zakim> On the phone I see AndyS, Tom_Baker, +1.408.992.aabb, Guus, gavinc
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see AndyS, Tom_Baker, +1.408.992.aabb, Guus, gavinc ←
16:00:11 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, AndyS, tbaker, gavinc, Guus, Arnaud, davidwood, ivan, gkellogg, MacTed, danbri, cygri, mischat, trackbot, manu, manu1, ericP
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see RRSAgent, AndyS, tbaker, gavinc, Guus, Arnaud, davidwood, ivan, gkellogg, MacTed, danbri, cygri, mischat, trackbot, manu, manu1, ericP ←
16:00:20 <Zakim> +Arnaud
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16:00:46 <Zakim> +??P12
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P12 ←
16:00:52 <gkellogg> zakim, ??P12 is me
Gregg Kellogg: zakim, ??P12 is me ←
16:00:52 <Zakim> +gkellogg; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +gkellogg; got it ←
16:01:08 <tbaker> off
Thomas Baker: off ←
16:01:17 <Zakim> + +1.617.324.aadd
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16:01:21 <Zakim> +??P14
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16:01:27 <Arnaud> scribe: Arnaud
(Scribe set to Arnaud Le Hors)
16:01:28 <ivan> zakim, aadd is me
Ivan Herman: zakim, aadd is me ←
16:01:28 <Zakim> +ivan; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +ivan; got it ←
16:01:33 <Zakim> +David_Wood
Zakim IRC Bot: +David_Wood ←
16:01:43 <Zakim> + +081165aaee
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16:02:04 <yvesr> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Yves Raimond: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
16:02:05 <Zakim> On the phone I see AndyS, Tom_Baker, +1.408.992.aabb, Guus, gavinc, Arnaud, gkellogg, ivan, ??P14, David_Wood, +081165aaee
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see AndyS, Tom_Baker, +1.408.992.aabb, Guus, gavinc, Arnaud, gkellogg, ivan, ??P14, David_Wood, +081165aaee ←
16:02:12 <yvesr> Zakim, ??P14 is me
Yves Raimond: Zakim, ??P14 is me ←
16:02:12 <Zakim> +yvesr; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +yvesr; got it ←
16:02:13 <AZ> Zakim, aaee is me
Antoine Zimmermann: Zakim, aaee is me ←
16:02:14 <Zakim> +AZ; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +AZ; got it ←
16:02:25 <Guus> zakim, who is here?
Guus Schreiber: zakim, who is here? ←
16:02:26 <Zakim> On the phone I see AndyS, Tom_Baker, +1.408.992.aabb, Guus, gavinc, Arnaud, gkellogg, ivan, yvesr, David_Wood, AZ
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see AndyS, Tom_Baker, +1.408.992.aabb, Guus, gavinc, Arnaud, gkellogg, ivan, yvesr, David_Wood, AZ ←
16:02:28 <Zakim> On IRC I see Souri, yvesr, AZ, Zakim, RRSAgent, AndyS, tbaker, gavinc, Guus, Arnaud, davidwood, ivan, gkellogg, MacTed, danbri, cygri, mischat, trackbot, manu, manu1, ericP
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Souri, yvesr, AZ, Zakim, RRSAgent, AndyS, tbaker, gavinc, Guus, Arnaud, davidwood, ivan, gkellogg, MacTed, danbri, cygri, mischat, trackbot, manu, manu1, ericP ←
16:02:38 <Zakim> + +1.603.897.aaff
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.603.897.aaff ←
16:02:45 <Souri> zakim, aaff is me
Souripriya Das: zakim, aaff is me ←
16:02:45 <Zakim> +Souri; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Souri; got it ←
16:02:54 <Guus> zakim, +1.408.992 is Peter
Guus Schreiber: zakim, +1.408.992 is Peter ←
16:02:54 <Zakim> +Peter; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Peter; got it ←
16:03:45 <Zakim> +Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro ←
16:03:45 <Arnaud> topic Admin
topic Admin ←
16:03:51 <Arnaud> topic: Admin
16:04:03 <Arnaud> PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 24 Oct telecon
PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the 24 Oct telecon ←
16:04:17 <Zakim> +??P22
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P22 ←
16:04:19 <Arnaud> RESOLVED: minutes of the 24 Oct telecon accepted
RESOLVED: minutes of the 24 Oct telecon accepted ←
16:04:29 <pfps> zakim, who is on the phone?
Peter Patel-Schneider: zakim, who is on the phone? ←
16:04:29 <Zakim> On the phone I see AndyS, Tom_Baker, Peter, Guus, gavinc, Arnaud, gkellogg, ivan, yvesr, David_Wood, AZ, Souri, Sandro, ??P22
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see AndyS, Tom_Baker, Peter, Guus, gavinc, Arnaud, gkellogg, ivan, yvesr, David_Wood, AZ, Souri, Sandro, ??P22 ←
16:04:37 <pfps> zakim, Peter is me
Peter Patel-Schneider: zakim, Peter is me ←
16:04:37 <Zakim> +pfps; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +pfps; got it ←
16:04:44 <Arnaud> PROPOSED to accept the minutes of F2F3
PROPOSED to accept the minutes of F2F3 ←
16:05:38 <Arnaud> RESOLVED: minutes of F2F3 accepted
RESOLVED: minutes of F2F3 accepted ←
16:06:26 <Arnaud> subtopic: Review of action items
16:07:12 <Zakim> +MHausenblas
Zakim IRC Bot: +MHausenblas ←
16:07:16 <cygri> zakim, mhausenblas is temporarily me
Richard Cyganiak: zakim, mhausenblas is temporarily me ←
16:07:16 <Zakim> +cygri; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +cygri; got it ←
16:07:26 <Arnaud> guus: we need to go over the list of open issues and clean it up
Guus Schreiber: we need to go over the list of open issues and clean it up ←
16:07:37 <Arnaud> topic: Reflection on F2F3
16:08:18 <AndyS> Seems like a good idea.
Andy Seaborne: Seems like a good idea. ←
16:08:21 <yvesr> it does
Yves Raimond: it does ←
16:08:33 <Arnaud> guus: agenda was more focused on documents, should we do the same for teleconfs?
Guus Schreiber: agenda was more focused on documents, should we do the same for teleconfs? ←
16:08:39 <davidwood> +1
David Wood: +1 ←
16:09:01 <Arnaud> guus: hearing no objections, we will go with that
Guus Schreiber: hearing no objections, we will go with that ←
16:09:16 <Arnaud> topic: Turtle LC
16:09:58 <Zakim> + +1.707.318.aagg
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.707.318.aagg ←
16:10:05 <Arnaud> gavinc: received one piece of feedback regarding a syntax error, waiting for feedback from I18N
Gavin Carothers: received one piece of feedback regarding a syntax error, waiting for feedback from I18N ←
16:10:08 <cgreer> zakim, aagg is me
Charles Greer: zakim, aagg is me ←
16:10:09 <Zakim> +cgreer; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +cgreer; got it ←
16:11:39 <Arnaud> guus: need to ensure we get greenlight from Tim
Guus Schreiber: need to ensure we get greenlight from Tim ←
16:11:53 <Arnaud> ... need to write transition request and features at risk
... need to write transition request and features at risk ←
16:11:58 <zwu2> can't dial in for whatever reason...
Zhe Wu: can't dial in for whatever reason... ←
16:12:31 <davidwood> No comments regarding features at risk is tacit approval...
David Wood: No comments regarding features at risk is tacit approval... ←
16:12:42 <Arnaud> guus: need to finalize all comments for next week, and we'll be fine
Guus Schreiber: need to finalize all comments for next week, and we'll be fine ←
16:12:46 <gavinc> davidwood, oh then I should comment ;)
Gavin Carothers: davidwood, oh then I should comment ;) ←
16:12:49 <Zakim> +EricP
Zakim IRC Bot: +EricP ←
16:13:31 <Zakim> + +1.603.438.aahh
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.603.438.aahh ←
16:13:54 <zwu2> zakim, +1.603.438.aahh is me
Zhe Wu: zakim, +1.603.438.aahh is me ←
16:13:54 <Zakim> +zwu2; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +zwu2; got it ←
16:15:22 <Arnaud> guus: what about the test suite?
Guus Schreiber: what about the test suite? ←
16:15:28 <ericP> ericP: [proposed points in the Turtle SOTD]:
Eric Prud'hommeaux: [proposed points in the Turtle SOTD]: [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
16:15:39 <ericP> ... .. Stable spec (nothing at risk)
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... .. Stable spec (nothing at risk) ←
16:15:48 <ericP> ... .. deployed for a decade
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... .. deployed for a decade ←
16:15:56 <Zakim> +??P28
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P28 ←
16:16:00 <ericP> ... .. comprehensive test suite
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... .. comprehensive test suite ←
16:16:10 <gavinc> wasn't there an action on ericP to check for coverage?
Gavin Carothers: wasn't there an action on ericP to check for coverage? ←
16:16:16 <ericP> ... .. expect many implementations by the end of CR.
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... .. expect many implementations by the end of CR. ←
16:16:31 <ericP> gavinc, yep. haven't gotten to it
Eric Prud'hommeaux: gavinc, yep. haven't gotten to it ←
16:16:45 <AndyS> q+
Andy Seaborne: q+ ←
16:16:46 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
16:16:58 <Guus> ack ivan
Guus Schreiber: ack ivan ←
16:17:17 <Arnaud> ivan: if test cases aren't on w3c this isn't ideal but it's ok
Ivan Herman: if test cases aren't on w3c this isn't ideal but it's ok ←
16:17:20 <AndyS> ack me
Andy Seaborne: ack me ←
16:17:32 <Guus> ack AndyS
Guus Schreiber: ack AndyS ←
16:18:20 <gavinc> I think we want them merged
Gavin Carothers: I think we want them merged ←
16:18:44 <davidwood> +1 to merging
David Wood: +1 to merging ←
16:19:00 <gkellogg> q+
Gregg Kellogg: q+ ←
16:19:08 <Arnaud> discussion on whether different test cases should be merged into a consolidated suite
discussion on whether different test cases should be merged into a consolidated suite ←
16:19:13 <yvesr> +1 to merging as well
Yves Raimond: +1 to merging as well ←
16:19:41 <AndyS> ACTION Andy Put Turtle tests into W3C space.
Andy Seaborne: ACTION Andy Put Turtle tests into W3C space. ←
16:19:41 <trackbot> Created ACTION-206 - Put Turtle tests into W3C space. [on Andy Seaborne - due 2012-11-14].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-206 - Put Turtle tests into W3C space. [on Andy Seaborne - due 2012-11-14]. ←
16:21:12 <gkellogg> q-
Gregg Kellogg: q- ←
16:21:41 <Arnaud> gavinc: who has the action to write the document introducing the tests?
Gavin Carothers: who has the action to write the document introducing the tests? ←
16:22:04 <Zakim> + +1.443.212.aaii
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.443.212.aaii ←
16:22:08 <Arnaud> ... at the f2f we agreed to do it but not sure anyone got the action
... at the f2f we agreed to do it but not sure anyone got the action ←
16:22:32 <Arnaud> guus: needs it to be done for transition
Guus Schreiber: needs it to be done for transition ←
16:23:43 <AndyS> ACTION Andy Do some documentation/README for the tests.
Andy Seaborne: ACTION Andy Do some documentation/README for the tests. ←
16:23:44 <trackbot> Created ACTION-207 - Do some documentation/README for the tests. [on Andy Seaborne - due 2012-11-14].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-207 - Do some documentation/README for the tests. [on Andy Seaborne - due 2012-11-14]. ←
16:24:39 <cygri> q+
Richard Cyganiak: q+ ←
16:24:58 <Arnaud> gavinc: should we have links to proper sections in the spec?
Gavin Carothers: should we have links to proper sections in the spec? ←
16:25:11 <Arnaud> ... useful for implementers
... useful for implementers ←
16:25:27 <Guus> ack cygri
Guus Schreiber: ack cygri ←
16:25:49 <Arnaud> cygri: have seen links to the test suite in the head of the document
Richard Cyganiak: have seen links to the test suite in the head of the document ←
16:26:05 <Arnaud> ... makes it easy to find
... makes it easy to find ←
16:26:12 <ericP> +1 to test suite link in front matter (at least for CR)
Eric Prud'hommeaux: +1 to test suite link in front matter (at least for CR) ←
16:26:13 <Arnaud> ... doesn't make it normative requirement
... doesn't make it normative requirement ←
16:26:23 <Arnaud> guus: ok, we can discuss this later
Guus Schreiber: ok, we can discuss this later ←
16:26:46 <Arnaud> topic: Json-ld
16:27:09 <Arnaud> gkellogg: updated issues for what came up at f2f
Gregg Kellogg: updated issues for what came up at f2f ←
16:27:22 <Arnaud> ... group elected to go into a feature freeze
... group elected to go into a feature freeze ←
16:27:41 <ivan> +1 to a feature freeze
Ivan Herman: +1 to a feature freeze ←
16:27:54 <Arnaud> ... re: syntax, more work on language maps
... re: syntax, more work on language maps ←
16:28:26 <Arnaud> ... providing for graph syntax or dataset syntax
... providing for graph syntax or dataset syntax ←
16:28:58 <Arnaud> ... preference is not to create different mediatypes
... preference is not to create different mediatypes ←
16:29:03 <cygri> using TriG in SPARQL's FROM or FROM NAMED … ouch, my brain!
Richard Cyganiak: using TriG in SPARQL's FROM or FROM NAMED … ouch, my brain! ←
16:29:27 <Arnaud> ... in the api, lots of feedback, proposal to rename the document as json-ld processing
... in the api, lots of feedback, proposal to rename the document as json-ld processing ←
16:29:39 <Arnaud> ... idl bit could be moved to an appendix
... idl bit could be moved to an appendix ←
16:29:47 <Arnaud> ... so focus would be on the processing rules
... so focus would be on the processing rules ←
16:29:51 <Guus> q?
Guus Schreiber: q? ←
16:29:52 <cygri> q+
Richard Cyganiak: q+ ←
16:30:07 <Guus> ack cygri
Guus Schreiber: ack cygri ←
16:30:18 <Zakim> -David_Wood
Zakim IRC Bot: -David_Wood ←
16:30:56 <Arnaud> cygri: want to stress the importance of the issue about the default graph
Richard Cyganiak: want to stress the importance of the issue about the default graph ←
16:31:14 <Arnaud> ... hasn't been properly discussed so far
... hasn't been properly discussed so far ←
16:31:37 <Arnaud> ... wants to get a new draft of concepts out and it would be good to know what it needs to say
... wants to get a new draft of concepts out and it would be good to know what it needs to say ←
16:31:53 <Arnaud> gkellogg: agree
Gregg Kellogg: agree ←
16:31:59 <sandro> +1 cygri: there's serious potential for confusion on this, if we con-neg between turtle and json-ld, and json-ld is also a dataset syntax.
Sandro Hawke: +1 cygri: there's serious potential for confusion on this, if we con-neg between turtle and json-ld, and json-ld is also a dataset syntax. ←
16:32:38 <Arnaud> ... another issue re: concepts, rdf transformation was based on the assumption that concept of quad would be defined, not sure that's the case
... another issue re: concepts, rdf transformation was based on the assumption that concept of quad would be defined, not sure that's the case ←
16:32:54 <gavinc> N-Quads has something of the same issue
Gavin Carothers: N-Quads has something of the same issue ←
16:33:14 <gavinc> Empty graphs suck :(
Gavin Carothers: Empty graphs suck :( ←
16:33:36 <Arnaud> sandro: yes, this would be useful to define
Sandro Hawke: yes, this would be useful to define ←
16:34:03 <Arnaud> topic: Review of issue list
16:34:20 <sandro> every dataset without empty named graphs corresponds 1-1 to a set of quads-and-triples, etc.
Sandro Hawke: every dataset without empty named graphs corresponds 1-1 to a set of quads-and-triples, etc. ←
16:35:55 <Arnaud> cygri: issue-93, think problem is addressed
Richard Cyganiak: ISSUE-93, think problem is addressed ←
16:35:59 <cygri> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/issues/97
Richard Cyganiak: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/issues/97 ←
16:36:06 <Arnaud> az: yes, that's fine
Antoine Zimmermann: yes, that's fine ←
16:37:54 <Arnaud> az: agree we can close issue-97
Antoine Zimmermann: agree we can close ISSUE-97 ←
16:38:20 <Arnaud> RESOLVED: close ISSUE-93
16:38:30 <Arnaud> RESOLVED: close ISSUE-97
16:38:49 <cygri> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/issues/103
Richard Cyganiak: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/issues/103 ←
16:38:52 <AZ> AZ: we agreed with Pat that we do not have to do anything and close ISSUE-97
Antoine Zimmermann: we agreed with Pat that we do not have to do anything and close ISSUE-97 [ Scribe Assist by Antoine Zimmermann ] ←
16:39:28 <Arnaud> cygri: re: issue-103, pushed back
Richard Cyganiak: re: ISSUE-103, pushed back ←
16:39:39 <cygri> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-wg/2012Nov/0046.html
Richard Cyganiak: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-wg/2012Nov/0046.html ←
16:39:48 <Arnaud> ... this is not relevant to concepts
... this is not relevant to concepts ←
16:39:54 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
16:39:56 <Arnaud> ... markus accepted
... markus accepted ←
16:40:11 <Guus> ack ivan
Guus Schreiber: ack ivan ←
16:40:16 <Arnaud> RESOLVED: close ISSUE-103
16:40:42 <Arnaud> ivan: since this is about good practice, this should be included in the primer
Ivan Herman: since this is about good practice, this should be included in the primer ←
16:41:12 <cygri> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/issues/91
Richard Cyganiak: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/issues/91 ←
16:41:20 <Arnaud> cygri: two more issues could be closed
Richard Cyganiak: two more issues could be closed ←
16:41:45 <Arnaud> ... 91 is mostly editorial issues
... 91 is mostly editorial issues ←
16:42:13 <Arnaud> ... believe this can be closed
... believe this can be closed ←
16:42:25 <Arnaud> ... up to Pat and Gavin to complain if necessary
... up to Pat and Gavin to complain if necessary ←
16:42:34 <gavinc> I'm think those issues are resolved
Gavin Carothers: I'm think those issues are resolved ←
16:42:41 <Arnaud> guus: gavin? what do you think?
Guus Schreiber: gavin? what do you think? ←
16:42:59 <Arnaud> gavinc: with opening of the new issue that's fine
Gavin Carothers: with opening of the new issue that's fine ←
16:43:09 <Arnaud> RESOLVED: close ISSUE-91
16:43:50 <Arnaud> cygri: confused issue-93 with issue-94 earlier
Richard Cyganiak: confused ISSUE-93 with ISSUE-94 earlier ←
16:44:25 <AZ> anywway, it's ok to close both issues, so no problem
Antoine Zimmermann: anywway, it's ok to close both issues, so no problem ←
16:44:33 <Zakim> -danbri
Zakim IRC Bot: -danbri ←
16:44:54 <Arnaud> cygri: but believe we can also close 94
Richard Cyganiak: but believe we can also close 94 ←
16:45:07 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
16:45:23 <Arnaud> RESOLVED: close ISSUE-94
16:45:35 <cygri> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/issues/96
Richard Cyganiak: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/issues/96 ←
16:46:01 <Arnaud> cygri: made editorial changes to address issue-96
Richard Cyganiak: made editorial changes to address ISSUE-96 ←
16:46:13 <Arnaud> ... about custom datatypes and adding references
... about custom datatypes and adding references ←
16:46:49 <Arnaud> ... think we can close this too
... think we can close this too ←
16:47:35 <Arnaud> RESOLVED: close ISSUE-96
16:47:56 <Arnaud> guus: we're left with 19 issues
Guus Schreiber: we're left with 19 issues ←
16:48:11 <Arnaud> cygri: 3 are on concepts
Richard Cyganiak: 3 are on concepts ←
16:48:33 <Arnaud> ... none of them are completely essential for producing a new WD
... none of them are completely essential for producing a new WD ←
16:49:03 <cygri> list here: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-wg/2012Oct/0234.html
Richard Cyganiak: list here: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-wg/2012Oct/0234.html ←
16:49:03 <Arnaud> guus: somebody needs to split the comments per section of the document
Guus Schreiber: somebody needs to split the comments per section of the document ←
16:49:16 <Arnaud> ... any volunteer?
... any volunteer? ←
16:49:31 <gavinc> +q new issue on HTMLLiteral
Gavin Carothers: +q new issue on HTMLLiteral ←
16:49:33 <Arnaud> ... will try to do it next week
... will try to do it next week ←
16:49:41 <gavinc> +q to ask about a new issue on HTMLLiteral
Gavin Carothers: +q to ask about a new issue on HTMLLiteral ←
16:49:55 <Arnaud> guus: what's the timeline for WD?
Guus Schreiber: what's the timeline for WD? ←
16:50:09 <Arnaud> cygri: can provide a draft for review for next week
Richard Cyganiak: can provide a draft for review in two weeks ←
16:50:33 <cygri> s/for next week/in two weeks/
16:50:51 <Arnaud> :)
:) ←
16:51:09 <gavinc> q?
Gavin Carothers: q? ←
16:51:26 <cygri> ACTION: cygri to provide draft of Concepts for WG review until 2012-11-21
ACTION: cygri to provide draft of Concepts for WG review until 2012-11-21 ←
16:51:26 <trackbot> Created ACTION-208 - Provide draft of Concepts for WG review until 2012-11-21 [on Richard Cyganiak - due 2012-11-14].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-208 - Provide draft of Concepts for WG review until 2012-11-21 [on Richard Cyganiak - due 2012-11-14]. ←
16:51:33 <cygri> ACTION-208?
Richard Cyganiak: ACTION-208? ←
16:51:33 <trackbot> ACTION-208 -- Richard Cyganiak to provide draft of Concepts for WG review until 2012-11-21 -- due 2012-11-14 -- OPEN
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-208 -- Richard Cyganiak to provide draft of Concepts for WG review until 2012-11-21 -- due 2012-11-14 -- OPEN ←
16:51:33 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/actions/208
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/actions/208 ←
16:51:43 <Arnaud> gavinc: one more question about rdf concepts
Gavin Carothers: one more question about rdf concepts ←
16:51:54 <Arnaud> ... tried to implement the new html literal type
... tried to implement the new html literal type ←
16:52:03 <gavinc> https://gist.github.com/4032791
Gavin Carothers: https://gist.github.com/4032791 ←
16:52:04 <Arnaud> ... don't think it works
... don't think it works ←
16:52:15 <Zakim> -EricP
Zakim IRC Bot: -EricP ←
16:52:26 <Arnaud> ... doesn't exist a standard way of parsing a fragment of html
... doesn't exist a standard way for parsing a fragment for html ←
16:52:32 <Arnaud> s/of/for/
16:53:04 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
16:53:15 <Arnaud> ... don't think we can have htmlliteral rely on parsing an html fragment
... don't think we can have htmlliteral rely on parsing an html fragment ←
16:54:19 <Arnaud> ... in practice you rely need to use an xmlliteral
... in practice you really need to use an xmlliteral ←
16:54:28 <Arnaud> s/rely/really/
16:54:48 <Arnaud> ivan: used htmllib, didn't have any problems
Ivan Herman: used htmllib, didn't have any problems ←
16:54:55 <gavinc> <http://example.org/books/1> dc:description """This is a <em>really</em> cool book"""^^rdf:HTMLLiteral .
Gavin Carothers: <http://example.org/books/1> dc:description """This is a <em>really</em> cool book"""^^rdf:HTMLLiteral . ←
16:55:00 <gavinc> becomes <html><head></head><body>This is a <em>really</em> cool book</body></html>
Gavin Carothers: becomes <html><head></head><body>This is a <em>really</em> cool book</body></html> ←
16:55:03 <Arnaud> ... so not sure there is a problem
... so not sure there is a problem ←
16:55:39 <Arnaud> ... but had to implement ??? separately
... but had to implement ??? separately ←
16:56:20 <Zakim> +EricP
Zakim IRC Bot: +EricP ←
16:56:21 <Arnaud> ... htmllib has the concept of html fragment
... htmllib has the concept of html fragment ←
16:56:30 <Arnaud> ... gets a dom node I can work with
... gets a dom node I can work with ←
16:56:46 <Arnaud> gavinc: will do more research and post to the mailing list
Gavin Carothers: will do more research and post to the mailing list ←
16:56:58 <Arnaud> guus: any other business?
Guus Schreiber: any other business? ←
16:57:13 <Zakim> -ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: -ivan ←
16:57:14 <AZ> bye
Antoine Zimmermann: bye ←
16:57:15 <Arnaud> meeting adjourned
meeting adjourned ←
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16:57:39 <gavinc> ivan, yeah this gets to the edges of what currently exists
Gavin Carothers: ivan, yeah this gets to the edges of what currently exists ←
16:57:50 <Zakim> -zwu2
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