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OWL Working Group

Minutes of 30 June 2008

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Christine Golbreich, Elisa Kendall, Evan Wallace, Ian Horrocks, Vipul Kashyap
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13:58:19 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/06/30-owl-irc

RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/06/30-owl-irc

13:58:57 <IanH> invite RSS agent

Ian Horrocks: invite RSS agent

13:59:05 <IanH> zakim, this is OWL

Ian Horrocks: zakim, this is OWL

13:59:05 <Zakim> IanH, I see SW_OWL()10:00AM in the schedule but not yet started.  Perhaps you mean "this will be OWL".

Zakim IRC Bot: IanH, I see SW_OWL()10:00AM in the schedule but not yet started. Perhaps you mean "this will be OWL".

13:59:14 <IanH> Zakim, this will be OWL

Ian Horrocks: Zakim, this will be OWL

13:59:14 <Zakim> ok, IanH; I see SW_OWL()10:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, IanH; I see SW_OWL()10:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute

13:59:23 <IanH> zakim, invite RSS agent

Ian Horrocks: zakim, invite RSS agent

13:59:23 <Zakim> I don't understand 'invite RSS agent', IanH

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'invite RSS agent', IanH

13:59:47 <IanH> OK -- thanks

Ian Horrocks: OK -- thanks

13:59:54 <ewallace> ewallace has changed the topic to: http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/UFDTF/Agenda.2008.06.30

Evan Wallace: ewallace has changed the topic to: http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/UFDTF/Agenda.2008.06.30

14:00:01 <Zakim> SW_OWL()10:00AM has now started

Zakim IRC Bot: SW_OWL()10:00AM has now started

14:00:08 <Zakim> +??P3

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P3

14:00:17 <IanH> zakim, ??Ps is me

Ian Horrocks: zakim, ??Ps is me

14:00:17 <Zakim> sorry, IanH, I do not recognize a party named '??Ps'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, IanH, I do not recognize a party named '??Ps'

14:00:27 <IanH> Zakim, ??P3 is me

Ian Horrocks: Zakim, ??P3 is me

14:00:27 <Zakim> +IanH; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +IanH; got it

14:00:50 <Zakim> +Evan_Wallace

Zakim IRC Bot: +Evan_Wallace

14:00:53 <Zakim> -IanH

Zakim IRC Bot: -IanH

14:00:55 <Zakim> +IanH

Zakim IRC Bot: +IanH

14:03:05 <IanH> zakim, who is here?

Ian Horrocks: zakim, who is here?

14:03:05 <Zakim> On the phone I see IanH, Evan_Wallace

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see IanH, Evan_Wallace

14:03:07 <Zakim> On IRC I see vipul, IanH, RRSAgent, Zakim, ewallace, sandro, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see vipul, IanH, RRSAgent, Zakim, ewallace, sandro, trackbot

14:03:19 <Zakim> +Vipul_Kashyap

Zakim IRC Bot: +Vipul_Kashyap

14:04:57 <vipul> scribe vipul

Vipul Kashyap: scribe vipul

14:05:04 <ewallace> scribnick: vipul

Scribe problem: the name 'scribnick' does not match any of the 51 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Christine Golbreich Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Diego Calvanese Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Héctor Pérez Urbina Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman Jeff Pan Jie Bao Joanne Luciano Jonathan Rees Kendall Clark Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Michael Schneider Michel Dumontier Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Haase Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown scribnick: vipul [ Scribe Assist by Evan Wallace ]

14:07:16 <vipul> http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/TraceabilityMatrix

Vipul Kashyap: http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/TraceabilityMatrix

14:08:10 <ewallace> topic: act 153

1. act 153

14:08:25 <Zakim> +Elisa_Kendall

Zakim IRC Bot: +Elisa_Kendall

14:08:35 <vipul> act 153 initial deliverable submitted by Vipul at http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/TraceabilityMatrix

Vipul Kashyap: act 153 initial deliverable submitted by Vipul at http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/TraceabilityMatrix

14:11:04 <ewallace> vipul to post email to wg list about the availability of Traceability Matrix

Evan Wallace: vipul to post email to wg list about the availability of Traceability Matrix

14:11:39 <ewallace> topic: UCR document

2. UCR document

14:11:53 <Zakim> +??P0

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P0

14:12:39 <IanH> zakim, ??P0 is Christine

Ian Horrocks: zakim, ??P0 is Christine

14:12:39 <Zakim> +Christine; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Christine; got it

14:14:43 <ewallace> Start at Req's doc at http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Requirements

Evan Wallace: Start at Req's doc at http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Requirements

14:14:45 <IanH> UCR draft at http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Requirements

Ian Horrocks: UCR draft at http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Requirements

14:15:18 <IanH> Goal of UCR is to explain rationalle behind OWL 2

Ian Horrocks: Goal of UCR is to explain rationalle behind OWL 2

14:15:35 <IanH> Expect this to be a relatively short document

Ian Horrocks: Expect this to be a relatively short document

14:15:49 <IanH> Evan: where to from here?

Evan Wallace: where to from here? [ Scribe Assist by Ian Horrocks ]

14:15:54 <vipul> Vipul suggested if we can identify the main sections

Vipul Kashyap: Vipul suggested if we can identify the main sections

14:16:51 <IanH> IanH: what is blocking progress? bandwidth?

Ian Horrocks: what is blocking progress? bandwidth? [ Scribe Assist by Ian Horrocks ]

14:17:35 <IanH> Vipul: organised around use cases or language features?

Vipul Kashyap: organised around use cases or language features? [ Scribe Assist by Ian Horrocks ]

14:18:11 <IanH> Evan: not sure it makes sense to structure around use cases

Evan Wallace: not sure it makes sense to structure around use cases [ Scribe Assist by Ian Horrocks ]

14:19:03 <vipul> Christine: If we want to make a traditional document? Do something very simple and classical?

Christine Golbreich: If we want to make a traditional document? Do something very simple and classical? [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

14:19:26 <vipul> Christine: Section 1: Use Case, Section 2: Requirements, Section 3: Rationale

Christine Golbreich: Section 1: Use Case, Section 2: Requirements, Section 3: Rationale [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

14:19:45 <vipul> Christine: Should we aim at something more pedagogical

Christine Golbreich: Should we aim at something more pedagogical [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

14:20:38 <vipul> Evan: We are not constrained with way it is worded in the charter... Ian agrees too!

Evan Wallace: We are not constrained with way it is worded in the charter... Ian agrees too! [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

14:21:18 <vipul> Ian: Needs to be kept reasonably simple...- Agreed by Evan and Vipul

Ian Horrocks: Needs to be kept reasonably simple...- Agreed by Evan and Vipul [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

14:21:34 <vipul> Evan: Simpler => People are more likely to read it?

Evan Wallace: Simpler => People are more likely to read it? [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

14:22:12 <vipul> Vipul agrees with Christine's suggestion

Vipul Kashyap: Vipul agrees with Christine's suggestion

14:22:52 <vipul> Primary Audience: User Groups

Vipul Kashyap: Primary Audience: User Groups

14:26:42 <vipul> Christine: Start wirh filling out new features in Section III

Christine Golbreich: Start wirh filling out new features in Section III [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

14:33:57 <vipul> Christine: Willing to take first stab at Section: Rationale and Features... Will need help as she is 6 months out of date

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Unknown Chrintine: Willing to take first stab at Section: Rationale and Features... Will need help as she in 6 months out of date [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

14:39:37 <ewallace> s/is/in/
14:41:50 <vipul> No I did not ... someone else did

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Vipul Kashyap: No I did not ... someone else did

14:42:16 <vipul> We will all work in parallel on each of our sections...

Vipul Kashyap: We will all work in parallel on each of our sections...

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Vipul Kashyap: rrsagent make minutes

14:50:26 <ewallace> rssagent, draft minutes

Evan Wallace: rssagent, draft minutes

14:50:28 <vipul> rrsagent, draft minutes

Vipul Kashyap: rrsagent, draft minutes

14:50:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/06/30-owl-minutes.html vipul

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14:50:56 <ewallace> rssagent, make log world-readable

Evan Wallace: rssagent, make log world-readable

14:51:05 <ewallace> rssagent, make records public

Evan Wallace: rssagent, make records public

14:51:26 <Zakim> -Evan_Wallace

Zakim IRC Bot: -Evan_Wallace

14:51:30 <Zakim> -IanH

Zakim IRC Bot: -IanH

14:51:31 <Zakim> -Vipul_Kashyap

Zakim IRC Bot: -Vipul_Kashyap

14:51:31 <Zakim> -Elisa_Kendall

Zakim IRC Bot: -Elisa_Kendall

14:51:32 <Zakim> -Christine

Zakim IRC Bot: -Christine

14:51:34 <Zakim> SW_OWL()10:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: SW_OWL()10:00AM has ended

14:51:35 <Zakim> Attendees were IanH, Evan_Wallace, Vipul_Kashyap, Elisa_Kendall, Christine

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were IanH, Evan_Wallace, Vipul_Kashyap, Elisa_Kendall, Christine

14:54:10 <IanH> rrsagent, make log public

Ian Horrocks: rrsagent, make log public



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