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Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, bijan, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you ←

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see alanr, baojie, Elisa, bijan, RRSAgent, Zakim, pfps, trackbot-ng ←

Bijan Parsia: zakim, you need to lighten up; stupidly required superfluous punctuation is not user friendly ←

Bijan Parsia: We've committed to its existence? I mean, we having brought it ot the wg yet... ←

Alan Ruttenberg: requirement for separate overview? if so what? could it be included in existing docs? [ Scribe Assist by Ian Horrocks ] ←

Deborah McGuinness: most used parts are: sec 2 QR; short examples and links; guide for readers. [ Scribe Assist by Ian Horrocks ] ←

Alan Ruttenberg: examples? another set might be redundant. QR examples could link straight into syntax and primer. Not sure if more (redundant) examples needed. [ Scribe Assist by Ian Horrocks ] ←

Alan Ruttenberg: See how much of short examples can be fitted into QR and link to primer for the rest then see where we are up to? [ Scribe Assist by Ian Horrocks ] ←

Alan Ruttenberg: believes most of overview functionality can be covered in QR; will be short; have commitment to effort; can see where we stand when it is done. [ Scribe Assist by Ian Horrocks ] ←

Scribe problem: the name 'Peter' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Peter Patel-Schneider Peter Haase . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.

Bijan Parsia: Then what do we need to announce? Do we just proceed by working. ←

Scribe problem: the name 'Peter' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Peter Patel-Schneider Peter Haase . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.

Unknown Peter: in that case I am OK with it [ Scribe Assist by Ian Horrocks ] ←

Scribe problem: the name 'Peter' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Peter Patel-Schneider Peter Haase . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.

Unknown Peter: i.e., with having someone producing a doc and seeing where it would fit. [ Scribe Assist by Ian Horrocks ] ←

Alan Ruttenberg: q+ to ask whether we should solicit ideas for examples from list ←

Jie Bao: in that case some sections may be too dense. e.g. ... [ Scribe Assist by Ian Horrocks ] ←

Alan Ruttenberg: +1 to making it clearer. A line at the beginning of 2 saying these are aimed at particular experts ←

Bijan Parsia: aimed at experts in relevant areas (e.g. RDF); should be made clearer [ Scribe Assist by Ian Horrocks ] ←

Jie Bao: Section 3 too dense for users unfamiliar with OWL; e.g., what is an individual, property etc. This was covered in guide. [ Scribe Assist by Ian Horrocks ] ←

Zakim IRC Bot: alanr, you wanted to ask about linking wiki to feedback and to ask whether we should solicit ideas for examples from list ←

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-111 - Add feedback to wiki page [on Alan Ruttenberg - due 2008-03-24]. ←

Peter Patel-Schneider: Cheese is a food made from the milk of cows, goats, sheep and other mammals, by coagulating the milk. - Wikipedia ←

Ian Horrocks: I like science stuff; *any* kind of food is surely culturally dependent. [ Scribe Assist by Ian Horrocks ] ←

Peter Patel-Schneider: If Evan is making speculative changes, then other changes will have to be deferred. ←

Evan Wallace: this is only for review + thoughts of what needs to be done. [ Scribe Assist by Ian Horrocks ] ←

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-112 - Review syntax document as reference - what is needed? [on Evan Wallace - due 2008-03-24]. ←

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Peter_Patel-Schneider, Alan, baojie, bijan, Elisa_Kendall, IanH, +1.518.608.aaaa, Evan_Wallace ←

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public', alanr. Try /msg RRSAgent help ←

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes world-readable', alanr. Try /msg RRSAgent help ←

Unknown s-mon_: sandro, i am testing the cgi-irc client, and it seems to work ok. ←

Unknown s-mon_: i am not certain where it might have borken for Evan, but it seems worky. ←

Unknown s-mon_: ewallace, was there any specific failure messages that might be of use? ←

Unknown s-mon_: for me, it stalled because my /nick was already in use, so i re-attempted using a different nick and all went OK. ←

Unknown s-mon_: we will need to consider this a client-side mattter if the cgi-irc client is worky. ←

Sandro Hawke: Simon, I'm not sure Evan is properly on IRC now. Do you want to say this to him in e-mail, or keep me in the loop? ←

Unknown s-mon_: i will respond in e-mail. i am going to try a couple more things, but if i cannot reproduce the failure, then we will have to say it's a phantom issue. ←

Sandro Hawke: Is it possible you were using a nickname that was already in use, Evan? ←

Unknown cgi-irc: i am using firefox 2.0.0.12. i may be behind just a sukoshi. ←

Unknown e_wallace_prime: I am writing this now from the w3c irc client via firefox 2.0.0.12 ←

Unknown e_wallace_prime: Now it does. It consistently failed earlier on Linux and XP (both using Firefox) ←

Unknown simon: well, it's history now. if you continue to experience issues with it, let us know. ←

OWL Working Group

Minutes of 17 March 2008