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Minutes of 31 October 2007

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Achille Fokoue, Alan Ruttenberg, Bijan Parsia, Boris Motik, Deborah McGuinness, Elisa Kendall, Evan Wallace, Fabian Neuhaus, Fabien Gandon, Ian Horrocks, Ivan Herman, Martin Dzbor, Michael Smith, Peter Patel-Schneider, Ratnesh Sahay, Rinke Hoekstra, Sandro Hawke, Uli Sattler, Unknown Jeremy, Vipul Kashyap, Vit Novacek, Zhe Wu
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. Accept Previous Minutes link
  2. Bijan check over Peter's review, and if he doesn't have any problem with it, he conveys it to RIF as a review from OWL WG link
  3. Bijan and Peter come to consensus on the 0066 review; if they suceed, they convey it to RIF as a review from the OWL WG link
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17:02:09 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/10/31-owl-irc

RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/10/31-owl-irc

17:02:19 <alanr_> All: 41# puts you on the queue

Scribe problem: the name 'All' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown All: 41# puts you on the queue [ Scribe Assist by Alan Ruttenberg ]

17:02:21 <sandro> Meeting: OWL
17:02:25 <alanr_> 40# takes you off

Alan Ruttenberg: 40# takes you off

17:02:34 <Zakim> -??P7

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P7

17:02:43 <alanr_> 61# mutes

Alan Ruttenberg: 61# mutes

17:02:46 <alanr_> 60# unmutes

Alan Ruttenberg: 60# unmutes

17:02:53 <alanr_> http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Teleconference.2007.10.31/Agenda

Alan Ruttenberg: http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Teleconference.2007.10.31/Agenda

17:02:54 <bijan> Uhm, a lot of the Eu people mimght be confused on this point

Bijan Parsia: Uhm, a lot of the Eu people mimght be confused on this point

17:02:55 <bijan> uli was too

Bijan Parsia: uli was too

17:03:40 <alanr_> zakim, who is here?

Alan Ruttenberg: zakim, who is here?

17:03:40 <Zakim> On the phone I see DeborahMcGuiness, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik (muted), ??P30 (muted), MartinD, Sandro, Fabien (muted), [IBM], Zhe_Wu

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see DeborahMcGuiness, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik (muted), ??P30 (muted), MartinD, Sandro, Fabien (muted), [IBM], Zhe_Wu

17:03:44 <Zakim> On IRC I see zhe, RRSAgent, bijan, bmotik, MartinD, Ratnesh, ew, Rinke, vipul, alanr_, dlm, Zakim, sandro, pfps, ivan, trackbot-ng

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see zhe, RRSAgent, bijan, bmotik, MartinD, Ratnesh, ew, Rinke, vipul, alanr_, dlm, Zakim, sandro, pfps, ivan, trackbot-ng

17:03:47 <sandro> Adding topics after the fact is easy enough.

Sandro Hawke: Adding topics after the fact is easy enough.

17:03:51 <Zakim> +??P7

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P7

17:04:03 <Zakim> +??P32

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P32

17:04:18 <alanr_> q

Alan Ruttenberg: q

17:04:20 <alanr_> q?

Alan Ruttenberg: q?

17:04:35 <Zakim> +??P33

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P33

17:04:36 <alanr_> zakim, ??p30 is Jeremy

Alan Ruttenberg: zakim, ??p30 is Jeremy

17:04:45 <Zakim> +Jeremy; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Jeremy; got it

17:04:45 <pfps> zakim, ??p33 is me

Peter Patel-Schneider: zakim, ??p33 is me

17:04:48 <ivan> zakim, ??P32 is bijan

Ivan Herman: zakim, ??P32 is bijan

17:04:51 <Zakim> +pfps; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +pfps; got it

17:04:56 <bijan> zakim, mute me

Bijan Parsia: zakim, mute me

17:04:59 <Zakim> +bijan; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +bijan; got it

17:04:59 <bijan> am I muted?

Bijan Parsia: am I muted?

17:05:03 <Zakim> bijan should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should now be muted

17:05:11 <alanr_> zakim, who is here?

Alan Ruttenberg: zakim, who is here?

17:05:13 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?

Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call?

17:05:23 <Zakim> On the phone I see DeborahMcGuiness, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik (muted), Jeremy, MartinD, Sandro, Fabien (muted), [IBM], Zhe_Wu, ??P7, bijan (muted),

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see DeborahMcGuiness, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik (muted), Jeremy, MartinD, Sandro, Fabien (muted), [IBM], Zhe_Wu, ??P7, bijan (muted),

17:05:25 <alanr_> PROPOSED: Accept Previous Minutes

PROPOSED: Accept Previous Minutes

17:05:31 <Zakim> ... pfps

Zakim IRC Bot: ... pfps

17:05:32 <Zakim> On the phone I see DeborahMcGuiness, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik (muted), Jeremy, MartinD, Sandro, Fabien (muted), [IBM], Zhe_Wu, ??P7, bijan (muted),

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see DeborahMcGuiness, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik (muted), Jeremy, MartinD, Sandro, Fabien (muted), [IBM], Zhe_Wu, ??P7, bijan (muted),

17:05:37 <Zakim> ... pfps

Zakim IRC Bot: ... pfps

17:05:39 <alanr_> http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Teleconference.2007.10.24/Minutes

Alan Ruttenberg: http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Teleconference.2007.10.24/Minutes

17:05:41 <Zakim> On IRC I see Achille, zhe, RRSAgent, bijan, bmotik, MartinD, Ratnesh, ew, Rinke, vipul, alanr_, dlm, Zakim, sandro, pfps, ivan, trackbot-ng

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Achille, zhe, RRSAgent, bijan, bmotik, MartinD, Ratnesh, ew, Rinke, vipul, alanr_, dlm, Zakim, sandro, pfps, ivan, trackbot-ng

17:06:56 <sandro> Zakim, [IBM] is temporarily Achille

Sandro Hawke: Zakim, [IBM] is temporarily Achille

17:06:56 <Zakim> +Achille; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Achille; got it

17:07:24 <alanr_> RESOLVED: Accept Previous Minutes

RESOLVED: Accept Previous Minutes

17:07:42 <Zakim> +??P0

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P0

17:07:54 <sandro> Who just joined?

Sandro Hawke: Who just joined?

17:08:04 <sandro> And who is here from DERI Galway -- Ratnesh?

Sandro Hawke: And who is here from DERI Galway -- Ratnesh?

17:08:11 <vipul> Issues List: Migrated all issues from OWLED to Tracker

Vipul Kashyap: Issues List: Migrated all issues from OWLED to Tracker

17:08:11 <Zakim> +MikeSmith

Zakim IRC Bot: +MikeSmith

17:08:19 <ew> q+

Evan Wallace: q+

17:08:23 <uli> zakim, ??P0 is me

Uli Sattler: zakim, ??P0 is me

17:08:23 <Zakim> +uli; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +uli; got it

17:08:24 <alanr_> http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/HowIssuesAreProcessed

Alan Ruttenberg: http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/HowIssuesAreProcessed

17:08:24 <Ratnesh> yes ratnesh

Ratnesh Sahay: yes ratnesh

17:08:33 <alanr_> http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/HowIssuesAreProcessed

Alan Ruttenberg: http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/HowIssuesAreProcessed

17:08:40 <alanr_> http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Issues

Alan Ruttenberg: http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Issues

17:08:40 <Ratnesh> Ratnesh from DERI Galway

Ratnesh Sahay: Ratnesh from DERI Galway

17:08:50 <sandro> Zakim, who is on the call?

Sandro Hawke: Zakim, who is on the call?

17:08:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see DeborahMcGuiness, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik (muted), Jeremy, MartinD, Sandro, Fabien (muted), Achille, Zhe_Wu, ??P7, bijan (muted),

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see DeborahMcGuiness, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik (muted), Jeremy, MartinD, Sandro, Fabien (muted), Achille, Zhe_Wu, ??P7, bijan (muted),

17:08:53 <Zakim> ... pfps, uli (muted), MikeSmith

Zakim IRC Bot: ... pfps, uli (muted), MikeSmith

17:09:16 <sandro> Zakim, ??P7 is Ratnesh

Sandro Hawke: Zakim, ??P7 is Ratnesh

17:09:16 <Zakim> +Ratnesh; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Ratnesh; got it

17:09:31 <sandro> Zakim, who is on the call?

Sandro Hawke: Zakim, who is on the call?

17:09:31 <Zakim> On the phone I see DeborahMcGuiness, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik (muted), Jeremy, MartinD, Sandro, Fabien (muted), Achille, Zhe_Wu, Ratnesh, bijan

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see DeborahMcGuiness, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik (muted), Jeremy, MartinD, Sandro, Fabien (muted), Achille, Zhe_Wu, Ratnesh, bijan

17:09:34 <Zakim> ... (muted), pfps, uli (muted), MikeSmith

Zakim IRC Bot: ... (muted), pfps, uli (muted), MikeSmith

17:09:55 <dlm> is there a link to where we are being pointed to look?

Deborah McGuinness: is there a link to where we are being pointed to look?

17:10:07 <alanr_> q?

Alan Ruttenberg: q?

17:10:21 <sandro> Attendees: DeborahMcGuiness, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik, Jeremy, MartinD, Sandro, Fabien, Achille, Zhe_Wu, Ratnesh, bijan, pfps, uli, MikeSmith

Scribe problem: the name 'Attendees' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Attendees: DeborahMcGuiness, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik, Jeremy, MartinD, Sandro, Fabien, Achille, Zhe_Wu, Ratnesh, bijan, pfps, uli, MikeSmith [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

17:10:23 <alanr_> ack ew

Alan Ruttenberg: ack ew

17:10:27 <vipul> Issues List: Evan couldn't find an Issue on the Issue List

Vipul Kashyap: Issues List: Evan couldn't find an Issue on the Issue List

17:10:48 <vipul> Issues List: Evan asking about the completeness of the Issues List

Vipul Kashyap: Issues List: Evan asking about the completeness of the Issues List

17:10:48 <alanr_> http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/tracker/issues/open

Alan Ruttenberg: http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/tracker/issues/open

17:11:23 <vipul> Issues List:: Complete wrt google-code and OWL

Vipul Kashyap: Issues List:: Complete wrt google-code and OWL

17:11:31 <sandro> q- ??P30

Sandro Hawke: q- ??P30

17:11:52 <vipul> Issues List: Alan suggests adding issues that were not transferred should be added

Vipul Kashyap: Issues List: Alan suggests adding issues that were not transferred should be added

17:11:53 <Fabian> Why I am not on the attendees list?

Fabian Neuhaus: Why I am not on the attendees list?

17:11:56 <sandro> ack Jeremy

Sandro Hawke: ack Jeremy

17:12:15 <sandro> Sorry, do we have Fabien here today, or only Fabian?

Sandro Hawke: Sorry, do we have Fabien here today, or only Fabian?

17:12:17 <vipul> Issues List: Jeremy wants to migrate issues from the OWL comments list

Vipul Kashyap: Issues List: Jeremy wants to migrate issues from the OWL comments list

17:12:18 <alanr_> q?

Alan Ruttenberg: q?

17:12:34 <sandro> Attendees: DeborahMcGuiness, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik, Jeremy, MartinD, Sandro, Fabian, Achille, Zhe_Wu, Ratnesh, bijan, pfps, uli, MikeSmith

Scribe problem: the name 'Attendees' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Attendees: DeborahMcGuiness, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik, Jeremy, MartinD, Sandro, Fabian, Achille, Zhe_Wu, Ratnesh, bijan, pfps, uli, MikeSmith [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

17:12:35 <pfps> zakim, mute me

Peter Patel-Schneider: zakim, mute me

17:12:35 <Zakim> pfps should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: pfps should now be muted

17:12:49 <sandro> corrected, Fabian.

Sandro Hawke: corrected, Fabian.

17:12:51 <Fabian> Thanks!

Fabian Neuhaus: Thanks!

17:13:20 <vipul> Less Technical Documents (LTDs): Would like to find User Facing Documents Task Force

Scribe problem: the name 'Jeremy' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Jeremy: Less Technical Documents (LTDs): Would like to find User Facing Documents Task Force [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:13:21 <bijan> q+

Bijan Parsia: q+

17:13:35 <sandro> Topic: User-Facing Documents

1. User-Facing Documents

17:13:42 <vipul> LTDs: Documents such as OWL 1.0 Overview, Reference, User Guide

Scribe problem: the name 'LTDs' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown LTDs: Documents such as OWL 1.0 Overview, Reference, User Guide [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:14:24 <sandro> s/Less/Jeremy: Less/
17:14:25 <vipul> UFDs: Reuse OWL 1.0 Overview to create OWL 1.1 Overview in time for the Manchester F2F

Scribe problem: the name 'UFDs' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown UFDs: Reuse OWL 1.0 Overview to create OWL 1.1 Overview in time for the Manchester F2F [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:14:51 <sandro> vipul, don't use   "Foo: ....." unless "Foo" is a person's name.

Sandro Hawke: vipul, don't use "Foo: ....." unless "Foo" is a person's name.

17:15:04 <vipul> UFDs: Work on the relating to features to requirements - Traceability Matrix

Scribe problem: the name 'UFDs' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown UFDs: Work on the relating to features to requirements - Traceability Matrix [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:15:17 <vipul> UFDs: Form a task force and report back to the main group

Scribe problem: the name 'UFDs' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown UFDs: Form a task force and report back to the main group [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:15:27 <sandro> Jeremy: The proposal is to form a Task Force

Scribe problem: the name 'Jeremy' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Jeremy: The proposal is to form a Task Force [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

17:15:56 <alanr_> q?

Alan Ruttenberg: q?

17:15:57 <bijan> zakim, unmute me

Bijan Parsia: zakim, unmute me

17:15:58 <Zakim> bijan should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should no longer be muted

17:16:03 <sandro> ack bijan

Sandro Hawke: ack bijan

17:16:04 <alanr_> ack Bijan

Alan Ruttenberg: ack Bijan

17:16:31 <vipul> Bijan: Objection: WG will consider these as publication tracks

Bijan Parsia: Objection: WG will consider these as publication tracks [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:17:12 <vipul> Alan: Bijan's points - WG documents should not be the only outlet for the UFDs

Alan Ruttenberg: Bijan's points - WG documents should not be the only outlet for the UFDs [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:17:34 <vipul> Alan: What put to on XML page for OWL for instance

Alan Ruttenberg: What put to on XML page for OWL for instance [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:17:50 <Jeremy> q+ to mention charter

Scribe problem: the name 'Jeremy' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'Jeremy' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Jeremy: q+ to mention charter

17:18:02 <vipul> Alan: Appropriate use of WG time .. making sure that this would not interfere with WG Tasks

Alan Ruttenberg: Appropriate use of WG time .. making sure that this would not interfere with WG Tasks [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:18:02 <Zakim> + +1.408.774.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.408.774.aabb

17:18:07 <vipul> Alan: Parallel track

Alan Ruttenberg: Parallel track [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:18:17 <vipul> Alan: Off WG meetings

Alan Ruttenberg: Off WG meetings [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:18:45 <vipul> Alan: Further approval of documents

Alan Ruttenberg: Further approval of documents [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:19:19 <sandro> (Who is +1.408.774.aabb ? )

Sandro Hawke: (Who is +1.408.774.aabb ? )

17:19:24 <ew> q+

Evan Wallace: q+

17:19:29 <alanr_> q?

Alan Ruttenberg: q?

17:20:02 <bijan> q+

Bijan Parsia: q+

17:20:12 <sandro> ack Jeremy

Sandro Hawke: ack Jeremy

17:20:12 <Zakim> Jeremy, you wanted to mention charter

Zakim IRC Bot: Jeremy, you wanted to mention charter

17:20:21 <vipul> Jeremy: Don't want to be not responsive to you

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Unknown Jeremy: Don't want to be not responsive to you [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:20:22 <alanr_> deb next

Alan Ruttenberg: deb next

17:20:29 <alanr_> then ew, bijan

Alan Ruttenberg: then ew, bijan

17:20:37 <vipul> Jeremy: Hence called "Less Technical Documents"

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Unknown Jeremy: Hence called "Less Technical Documents" [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:20:59 <ew> q-

Evan Wallace: q-

17:21:06 <alanr_> q?

Alan Ruttenberg: q?

17:21:08 <bijan> zakim, unmute me

Bijan Parsia: zakim, unmute me

17:21:08 <Zakim> bijan was not muted, bijan

Zakim IRC Bot: bijan was not muted, bijan

17:21:15 <vipul> Jeremy: Charter Section 2 specifically taks about documents which all 5 of us want to produce

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Unknown Jeremy: Charter Section 2 specifically taks about documents which all 5 of us want to produce [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:21:17 <sandro> q?

Sandro Hawke: q?

17:21:25 <sandro> q+ Deb

Sandro Hawke: q+ Deb

17:21:27 <alanr_> q+ deb

Alan Ruttenberg: q+ deb

17:21:28 <sandro> ack bijan

Sandro Hawke: ack bijan

17:21:36 <vipul> Bijan: Variety of users

Bijan Parsia: Variety of users [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:21:50 <vipul> Bijan: Not objecting to producing variety of documents

Bijan Parsia: Not objecting to producing variety of documents [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:21:51 <sandro> bijan: "Outreach documents"

Bijan Parsia: "Outreach documents" [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

17:22:13 <vipul> Bijan: That is the only or the best way to meeting the requirements of the WG charter

Bijan Parsia: That is the only or the best way to meeting the requirements of the WG charter [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:22:26 <vipul> Bijan: Would like a discussion on this

Bijan Parsia: Would like a discussion on this [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:22:30 <alanr_> q?

Alan Ruttenberg: q?

17:22:46 <vipul> Bijan: Need to sanction whether these are WG documents

Bijan Parsia: Need to sanction whether these are WG documents [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:22:50 <alanr_> q+

Alan Ruttenberg: q+

17:23:03 <sandro> Bijan: People working on these documents should understand that they might not become WG documents.   They might not be how we meet the charter requirement.

Bijan Parsia: People working on these documents should understand that they might not become WG documents. They might not be how we meet the charter requirement. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

17:23:11 <sandro> ack deb

Sandro Hawke: ack deb

17:23:13 <vipul> Deborah: Something like OWL 1.1 Overivew document out

Deborah McGuinness: Something like OWL 1.1 Overivew document out [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:23:28 <Jeremy> No: Deb said OWL 1.0 Overview doc

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Vit Novacek: Deb said OWL 1.0 Overview doc [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Jeremy ]

17:23:38 <vipul> Deborah: If disagreement about that ... we need a discussion before we put energy in it

Deborah McGuinness: If disagreement about that ... we need a discussion before we put energy in it [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:23:39 <sandro> Deb: If there is disagreement about whether we'll publish something like this, I'd want to hear that disagreement NOW.

Deborah McGuinness: If there is disagreement about whether we'll publish something like this, I'd want to hear that disagreement NOW. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

17:23:41 <bijan> zakim, mute me

Bijan Parsia: zakim, mute me

17:23:41 <Zakim> bijan should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should now be muted

17:24:06 <vipul> Deborah.: OWL 1.1 Overview similar to OWL 1.0 Overview document?

Vipul Kashyap: Deborah.: OWL 1.1 Overview similar to OWL 1.0 Overview document?

17:24:43 <vipul> Alan: OWL Overview is simple presentation of features

Alan Ruttenberg: OWL Overview is simple presentation of features [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:24:58 <vipul> Alan: Goal is to produce something of that nature

Alan Ruttenberg: Goal is to produce something of that nature [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:25:16 <bijan> I'll note that I have an interest in working on an Overview document

Bijan Parsia: I'll note that I have an interest in working on an Overview document

17:25:28 <vipul> Alan: Goal of the traceability document is to have features related to a set of use cases in different domains

Alan Ruttenberg: Goal of the traceability document is to have features related to a set of use cases in different domains [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:25:41 <vipul> Alan: Demonstrate the value of OWL 1.1 over OWL 1.0

Alan Ruttenberg: Demonstrate the value of OWL 1.1 over OWL 1.0 [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:25:46 <pfps> I am also interested working in an Overview document.

Peter Patel-Schneider: I am also interested working in an Overview document.

17:26:00 <vipul> Alan: Issues with some features

Alan Ruttenberg: Issues with some features [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:26:05 <bijan> zakim, unmute me

Bijan Parsia: zakim, unmute me

17:26:05 <Zakim> bijan should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should no longer be muted

17:26:40 <vipul> Bijan: Overview document will be helpful

Bijan Parsia: Overview document will be helpful [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:26:53 <vipul> Bijan: Traceability committed to producing

Bijan Parsia: Traceability committed to producing [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:27:16 <vipul> Bijan: Not convinced that it is useful use of your time

Bijan Parsia: Not convinced that it is useful use of your time [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:27:23 <Jeremy> q+ to address longevity

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Scribe problem: the name 'Jeremy' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Jeremy: q+ to address longevity

17:27:26 <vipul> Bijan: Longevity problems

Bijan Parsia: Longevity problems [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:27:48 <vipul> Alan: Have examples where documents didn't age gracefully?

Alan Ruttenberg: Have examples where documents didn't age gracefully? [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:27:59 <vipul> Bijan: Implementation Reports

Bijan Parsia: Implementation Reports [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:28:02 <alanr_> q?

Alan Ruttenberg: q?

17:28:07 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?

Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call?

17:28:07 <Zakim> On the phone I see DeborahMcGuiness, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik (muted), Jeremy, MartinD, Sandro, Fabien (muted), Achille, Zhe_Wu, Ratnesh, bijan, pfps

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see DeborahMcGuiness, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik (muted), Jeremy, MartinD, Sandro, Fabien (muted), Achille, Zhe_Wu, Ratnesh, bijan, pfps

17:28:08 <alanr_> ack alanr_

Alan Ruttenberg: ack alanr_

17:28:10 <Zakim> ... (muted), uli (muted), MikeSmith, +1.408.774.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: ... (muted), uli (muted), MikeSmith, +1.408.774.aabb

17:28:34 <sandro> Zakim, DeborahMcGuiness is DeborahMcGuinness

Sandro Hawke: Zakim, DeborahMcGuiness is DeborahMcGuinness

17:28:34 <Zakim> +DeborahMcGuinness; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +DeborahMcGuinness; got it

17:28:47 <Fabian> zakim, mute me

Fabian Neuhaus: zakim, mute me

17:28:47 <Zakim> sorry, Fabian, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Fabian, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you

17:29:05 <vipul> Bijan: Document like requirements document kept live would not be good

Bijan Parsia: Document like requirements document kept live would not be good [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:29:09 <bijan> zakim, mute me

Bijan Parsia: zakim, mute me

17:29:09 <Zakim> bijan should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should now be muted

17:29:20 <Fabian> I am afraid zakim mistakes me for Fabien. How do I change that?

Fabian Neuhaus: I am afraid zakim mistakes me for Fabien. How do I change that?

17:29:22 <vipul> Jeremy: Traceability is a short term document

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Unknown Jeremy: Traceability is a short term document [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:29:31 <vipul> q+

Vipul Kashyap: q+

17:29:33 <ew> +1 to Jeremy's comment

Evan Wallace: +1 to Jeremy's comment

17:29:54 <alanr_> ack jeremy

Alan Ruttenberg: ack jeremy

17:29:54 <Zakim> Jeremy, you wanted to address longevity

Zakim IRC Bot: Jeremy, you wanted to address longevity

17:30:01 <alanr_> ack vipul

Alan Ruttenberg: ack vipul

17:30:19 <bijan> q+

Bijan Parsia: q+

17:30:26 <alanr_> q+ alanr

Alan Ruttenberg: q+ alanr

17:30:41 <bijan> zakim, unmute me

Bijan Parsia: zakim, unmute me

17:30:41 <Zakim> bijan should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should no longer be muted

17:30:46 <Jeremy> Vipul: we can decide whetehr traceability has long-term value, in the future - we don't need to decide now

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Vipul Kashyap: we can decide whetehr traceability has long-term value, in the future - we don't need to decide now [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Jeremy ]

17:31:08 <vipul> Bijan: Communicating to people now

Bijan Parsia: Communicating to people now [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:31:22 <vipul> Bijan: WD may not be the best way to do that

Bijan Parsia: WD may not be the best way to do that [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:31:34 <vipul> Bijan: Feature matrices are very useful for adoption, etc.

Bijan Parsia: Feature matrices are very useful for adoption, etc. [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:31:39 <alanr_> q?

Alan Ruttenberg: q?

17:31:43 <alanr_> ack bijan

Alan Ruttenberg: ack bijan

17:31:46 <vipul> Bijan: That gets stale over time

Bijan Parsia: That gets stale over time [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:32:12 <bijan> zakim, mute me

Bijan Parsia: zakim, mute me

17:32:12 <Zakim> bijan should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should now be muted

17:32:12 <vipul> Bijan: Have some commitment that they could be updated

Bijan Parsia: Have some commitment that they could be updated [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:32:13 <alanr_> q?

Alan Ruttenberg: q?

17:32:27 <vipul> q+

Vipul Kashyap: q+

17:32:27 <dlm> whop yes i did

Deborah McGuinness: whop yes i did

17:33:07 <dlm> +q

Deborah McGuinness: +q

17:33:11 <alanr_> ack alanr

Alan Ruttenberg: ack alanr

17:33:14 <Jeremy> q+ to ask for action to convene next 'user facing' tf meeting

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Scribe problem: the name 'Jeremy' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Jeremy: q+ to ask for action to convene next 'user facing' tf meeting

17:33:14 <alanr_> ack vipul

Alan Ruttenberg: ack vipul

17:33:59 <vipul> Deborah: Is OWL 1.0 Overview is a big risk for becoming outdated

Deborah McGuinness: Is OWL 1.0 Overview is a big risk for becoming outdated [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:34:02 <pfps> I'm not keen on an OWL 1.0 style document - it is rather long

Peter Patel-Schneider: I'm not keen on an OWL 1.0 style document - it is rather long

17:34:06 <alanr_> q?

Alan Ruttenberg: q?

17:34:10 <alanr_> ack dlm

Alan Ruttenberg: ack dlm

17:34:19 <bijan> I would have attended the TF but it came up too quickly forme

Bijan Parsia: I would have attended the TF but it came up too quickly forme

17:34:25 <alanr_> ack Jeremy

Alan Ruttenberg: ack Jeremy

17:34:25 <Zakim> Jeremy, you wanted to ask for action to convene next 'user facing' tf meeting

Zakim IRC Bot: Jeremy, you wanted to ask for action to convene next 'user facing' tf meeting

17:34:28 <vipul> ACTION: Jeremy to convene the next UFD task force

ACTION: Jeremy to convene the next UFD task force

17:34:28 <trackbot-ng> Sorry, couldn't find user - Jeremy

Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, couldn't find user - Jeremy

17:35:09 <alanr_> http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Backward_compatibility_audit

Alan Ruttenberg: http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Backward_compatibility_audit

17:35:19 <sandro> Alas, Jeremy, you're not officially in the WG yet, so the tracker can't track actions on you.....

Sandro Hawke: Alas, Jeremy, you're not officially in the WG yet, so the tracker can't track actions on you.....

17:35:33 <bijan> You can put it in my name

Bijan Parsia: You can put it in my name

17:35:35 <vipul> alan: Agreement requirement on the definition of backward compatibility

Alan Ruttenberg: Agreement requirement on the definition of backward compatibility [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:35:37 <alanr_> q?

Alan Ruttenberg: q?

17:35:42 <vipul> Alan: Task Force for Test Cases

Alan Ruttenberg: Task Force for Test Cases [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:35:44 <bijan> And I'll delegate to my good friend jeremy :)

Bijan Parsia: And I'll delegate to my good friend jeremy :)

17:35:47 <Zakim> +??P27

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P27

17:35:53 <Zakim> -Jeremy

Scribe problem: the name 'Jeremy' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Zakim IRC Bot: -Jeremy

17:36:07 <sandro> Zakim, ??P27 is Jeremy

Sandro Hawke: Zakim, ??P27 is Jeremy

17:36:07 <Zakim> +Jeremy; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Jeremy; got it

17:36:16 <bijan> I can't hear jeremy very well

Bijan Parsia: I can't hear jeremy very well

17:36:23 <vipul> Jeremy: Its still a bit early to have the test cases

Scribe problem: the name 'Jeremy' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Jeremy: Its still a bit early to have the test cases [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:36:44 <Zakim> -Jeremy

Scribe problem: the name 'Jeremy' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Zakim IRC Bot: -Jeremy

17:37:05 <alanr_> q?

Alan Ruttenberg: q?

17:37:06 <Zakim> +??P27

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P27

17:37:12 <bijan> I missed soemthing

Bijan Parsia: I missed soemthing

17:37:19 <Jeremy> Zakim, ??P27 is me

Scribe problem: the name 'Jeremy' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'Jeremy' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Jeremy: Zakim, ??P27 is me

17:37:19 <Zakim> +Jeremy; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Jeremy; got it

17:37:20 <vipul> Alan: OWL 1.0 test cases should run and produce same results as a criteria for backward compatibility

Alan Ruttenberg: OWL 1.0 test cases should run and produce same results as a criteria for backward compatibility [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:37:22 <bijan> alanr could you restate it?

Bijan Parsia: alanr could you restate it?

17:37:29 <Elisa> +1

Elisa Kendall: +1

17:37:30 <Achille> +1

Achille Fokoue: +1

17:37:32 <vipul> Sandro: Good starting point

Sandro Hawke: Good starting point [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:37:34 <pfps> actually some of the test cases *could* change as a result of the extended expressive power of OWL 1.1

Peter Patel-Schneider: actually some of the test cases *could* change as a result of the extended expressive power of OWL 1.1

17:37:42 <sandro> Jeremy: Still too early to make new test cases, but not too early to think about how we want to handle them.

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Unknown Jeremy: Still too early to make new test cases, but not too early to think about how we want to handle them. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

17:37:44 <bijan> zakim, unmute me

Bijan Parsia: zakim, unmute me

17:37:44 <Zakim> bijan should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should no longer be muted

17:37:45 <bijan> q+

Bijan Parsia: q+

17:37:55 <Rinke> Cannot oversee the consequences of such a resolution

Rinke Hoekstra: Cannot oversee the consequences of such a resolution

17:38:02 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?

Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is talking?

17:38:12 <vipul> Bijan: Could be bugs in test suite

Bijan Parsia: Could be bugs in test suite [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:38:12 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Sandro (45%), Alan (5%), Vipul_Kashyap (5%), bijan (80%)

Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Sandro (45%), Alan (5%), Vipul_Kashyap (5%), bijan (80%)

17:38:17 <Jeremy> +1 to bijan

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Unknown Jeremy: +1 to bijan

17:38:19 <vipul> Bijan: Could be a good starting point

Bijan Parsia: Could be a good starting point [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:38:35 <sandro> Bijan: It's a good starting point, but I wouldn't want to RESOLVE it, since we may want to break it in small ways.

Bijan Parsia: It's a good starting point, but I wouldn't want to RESOLVE it, since we may want to break it in small ways. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

17:38:54 <vipul> Sandro: Poilicies around test cases

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Unknown Jeremny: Poilicies around test cases [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:39:12 <bijan> zakim, mute me

Bijan Parsia: zakim, mute me

17:39:12 <Zakim> bijan should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should now be muted

17:39:15 <ivan> s/Sandro/Jeremny/
17:39:18 <alanr_> q?

Alan Ruttenberg: q?

17:39:23 <vipul> Sandro: Requirement that WG only approve tests that it regarded as correct

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Unknown Jeremy: Requirement that WG only approve tests that it regarded as correct [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:39:27 <bijan> ack bijan

Bijan Parsia: ack bijan

17:39:28 <alanr_> ack bijan

Alan Ruttenberg: ack bijan

17:39:35 <ivan> s/Sandro/Jeremy/
17:39:38 <bijan> zakim, mute me

Bijan Parsia: zakim, mute me

17:39:38 <Zakim> bijan should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should now be muted

17:39:50 <vipul> Alan: Test case per wiki page

Alan Ruttenberg: Test case per wiki page [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:40:15 <bijan> q+

Bijan Parsia: q+

17:40:17 <sandro> scribe note -- Jeremy said there is NOT a requirement that the WG only apporove "correct" test cases.

Sandro Hawke: scribe note -- Jeremy said there is NOT a requirement that the WG only apporove "correct" test cases.

17:40:18 <vipul> Alan: Bias to write as many test cases as possible in the functional syntax

Alan Ruttenberg: Bias to write as many test cases as possible in the functional syntax [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:40:31 <alanr_> q?

Alan Ruttenberg: q?

17:40:37 <vipul> Alan: Cannot do a test case to check RDF mapping example

Alan Ruttenberg: Cannot do a test case to check RDF mapping example [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:40:50 <vipul> Bijan: In OWL 1.0, tests in some database

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Unknown Jeremy: In OWL 1.0, tests in some database [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:41:13 <bijan> s/Bijan/Jeremy/
17:41:18 <bijan> +1 to all syntaxes

Bijan Parsia: +1 to all syntaxes

17:41:25 <vipul> Bijan: Can generate all possible syntaxes for the test

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Unknown Jeremy: Can generate all possible syntaxes for the test [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:41:26 <bijan> This is very easy with the OWL API

Bijan Parsia: This is very easy with the OWL API

17:41:33 <bijan> s/Bijan/Jeremy/
17:41:40 <bijan> vipul, tha'ts jeremy, not me

Bijan Parsia: vipul, tha'ts jeremy, not me

17:41:42 <sandro> EVERYTHING is totally programmable.  :-)

Sandro Hawke: EVERYTHING is totally programmable. :-)

17:41:48 <bijan> zakim, ack me

Bijan Parsia: zakim, ack me

17:41:48 <Zakim> unmuting bijan

Zakim IRC Bot: unmuting bijan

17:41:49 <vipul> Alan: Wiki is programmable

Alan Ruttenberg: Wiki is programmable [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:41:50 <Zakim> I see no one on the speaker queue

Zakim IRC Bot: I see no one on the speaker queue

17:41:52 <alanr_> q?

Alan Ruttenberg: q?

17:41:52 <Rinke> +1 to all syntaxes as well, seems weird to focus on the FS if we are still tinkering with it

Rinke Hoekstra: +1 to all syntaxes as well, seems weird to focus on the FS if we are still tinkering with it

17:41:58 <bmotik> I aplologize, but I need to take a 3 minute break to attend to something.

Boris Motik: I aplologize, but I need to take a 3 minute break to attend to something.

17:42:24 <Jeremy> q+ to mention problem with alternative syntaxes

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Unknown Jeremy: q+ to mention problem with alternative syntaxes

17:42:28 <MikeSmith> +1 to multiple syntaxes

Michael Smith: +1 to multiple syntaxes

17:42:45 <bijan> zakim, mute me

Bijan Parsia: zakim, mute me

17:42:45 <Zakim> bijan should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should now be muted

17:42:49 <alanr_> q?

Alan Ruttenberg: q?

17:42:54 <alanr_> ack jeremy

Alan Ruttenberg: ack jeremy

17:42:54 <Zakim> Jeremy, you wanted to mention problem with alternative syntaxes

Zakim IRC Bot: Jeremy, you wanted to mention problem with alternative syntaxes

17:42:58 <vipul> Jeremy: Flexibility => Tool has a bug => Bug in your test suite

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Unknown Jeremy: Flexibility => Tool has a bug => Bug in your test suite [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:43:24 <sandro> Alan: Trust But Verify

Alan Ruttenberg: Trust But Verify [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

17:43:24 <vipul> Alan: Explicit tests that tool translation matches the correct answer

Alan Ruttenberg: Explicit tests that tool translation matches the correct answer [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:43:40 <bijan> You have a core set of tests about the translation (Alan suggested this

Bijan Parsia: You have a core set of tests about the translation (Alan suggested this

17:43:54 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?

Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is talking?

17:43:56 <alanr_> http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Teleconference.2007.10.31/TestCasesRequirements

Alan Ruttenberg: http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Teleconference.2007.10.31/TestCasesRequirements

17:43:59 <alanr_> q?

Alan Ruttenberg: q?

17:44:01 <bmotik> I'm back and I have bernardo on the speakerphone

Boris Motik: I'm back and I have bernardo on the speakerphone

17:44:05 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Sandro (11%), Alan (11%), Jeremy (32%)

Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Sandro (11%), Alan (11%), Jeremy (32%)

17:44:18 <alanr_> q?

Alan Ruttenberg: q?

17:44:37 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?

Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is talking?

17:44:48 <sandro> ack sandro

Sandro Hawke: ack sandro

17:44:50 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Alan (62%), Jeremy (25%), MartinD (5%), Ivan (9%)

Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Alan (62%), Jeremy (25%), MartinD (5%), Ivan (9%)

17:44:56 <bijan> Btw, for the interested, i started work on an OWL 1.1 tutoiral a long time ago, and I found a swoop like tabbed interface that I adapted: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~bparsia/2007/owltutorial/

Bijan Parsia: Btw, for the interested, i started work on an OWL 1.1 tutoiral a long time ago, and I found a swoop like tabbed interface that I adapted: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~bparsia/2007/owltutorial/

17:44:56 <Jeremy> (what about the RIF report???)

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Unknown Jeremy: (what about the RIF report???)

17:45:05 <bijan> Might be fun for test cases

Bijan Parsia: Might be fun for test cases

17:45:24 <bijan> Or for examples

Bijan Parsia: Or for examples

17:45:34 <vipul> Alan: Dependency on another group on our charter - what are expectations and why does W3C do that?

Alan Ruttenberg: Dependency on another group on our charter - what are expectations and why does W3C do that? [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:45:45 <vipul> Sandro: some interaction between the specs

Sandro Hawke: some interaction between the specs [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:45:59 <vipul> Sandro: Implementor needs to understand both spects

Sandro Hawke: Implementor needs to understand both spects [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:46:12 <Rinke> I like the tabbed interface!

Rinke Hoekstra: I like the tabbed interface!

17:46:13 <vipul> Sandro: Bad thing for two specs to contradict each other

Sandro Hawke: Bad thing for two specs to contradict each other [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:46:24 <vipul> Alan: Have people to be liasions

Alan Ruttenberg: Have people to be liasions [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:46:36 <vipul> Alan: communicate any changes

Alan Ruttenberg: communicate any changes [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:46:48 <bijan> We have different groups,s ome are producing specs (like RIF) and others which don't (e.g., HCLS, at least not specs that affect us)

Bijan Parsia: We have different groups,s ome are producing specs (like RIF) and others which don't (e.g., HCLS, at least not specs that affect us)

17:46:59 <alanr_> q?

Alan Ruttenberg: q?

17:47:01 <bijan> I'm on RIF and HCLS

Bijan Parsia: I'm on RIF and HCLS

17:47:07 <vipul> Alan: Any volunteers for liastions

Alan Ruttenberg: Any volunteers for liastions [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:47:11 <ivan> I am on SWEO

Ivan Herman: I am on SWEO

17:47:14 <bijan> I could do RIF

Bijan Parsia: I could do RIF

17:47:17 <ivan> sure

Ivan Herman: sure

17:47:23 <Elisa> I'm active in SWD

Elisa Kendall: I'm active in SWD

17:47:27 <ivan> I am also on SWCG:-)

Ivan Herman: I am also on SWCG:-)

17:47:39 <bijan> What's SWD?

Bijan Parsia: What's SWD?

17:47:47 <bijan> Ah! Good

Bijan Parsia: Ah! Good

17:48:00 <vipul> I could do HCLS

Vipul Kashyap: I could do HCLS

17:48:03 <bijan> Also, several of us are OWLED steering committee members

Bijan Parsia: Also, several of us are OWLED steering committee members

17:48:18 <ivan> note: both HCLS and SWEO will be rechartered early 2008

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Unknown note: both HCLS and SWEO will be rechartered early 2008 [ Scribe Assist by Ivan Herman ]

17:48:28 <Jeremy> q+ to mention Stuart/TAG

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Unknown Jeremy: q+ to mention Stuart/TAG

17:49:15 <bijan> Are they really relevant?

Bijan Parsia: Are they really relevant?

17:49:19 <ivan> URW is an incubator group

Ivan Herman: URW is an incubator group

17:49:24 <bijan> zakim, unmute me

Bijan Parsia: zakim, unmute me

17:49:25 <Zakim> bijan should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should no longer be muted

17:49:32 <Rinke> I think Anne Cregan is in the uncertainty thing

Rinke Hoekstra: I think Anne Cregan is in the uncertainty thing

17:49:43 <ivan> Rinke: yes, she is

Rinke Hoekstra: yes, she is [ Scribe Assist by Ivan Herman ]

17:49:56 <vipul> Alan: Liasons with other groups - Bijan with RIF, Ivan with SWEO, Elisa with SWD, Vipul with HCLS

Alan Ruttenberg: Liasons with other groups - Bijan with RIF, Ivan with SWEO, Elisa with SWD, Vipul with HCLS [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:50:07 <uli_> ...and I think Jeff is as well in the uncertainty one

Uli Sattler: ...and I think Jeff is as well in the uncertainty one

17:50:09 <ew> Jeff Pan and others are members of Uncertainty XG

Evan Wallace: Jeff Pan and others are members of Uncertainty XG

17:50:15 <alanr_> q?

Alan Ruttenberg: q?

17:50:24 <Jeremy> q-

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Unknown Jeremy: q-

17:50:26 <vipul> Alan: Liasons with XML Schema and Uncertainty XG to be decided

Alan Ruttenberg: Liasons with XML Schema and Uncertainty XG to be decided [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:50:28 <vipul> q+

Vipul Kashyap: q+

17:50:47 <ew> +1 on user defined datatypes by any name

Evan Wallace: +1 on user defined datatypes by any name

17:50:55 <uli_> +1 to Bijan

Uli Sattler: +1 to Bijan

17:51:18 <bijan> zakim, mute me

Bijan Parsia: zakim, mute me

17:51:18 <Zakim> bijan should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should now be muted

17:51:21 <alanr_> q?

Alan Ruttenberg: q?

17:51:21 <vipul> Bijan: XML Schema group did not give OWL WG defined datatypes by name

Bijan Parsia: XML Schema group did not give OWL WG defined datatypes by name [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:51:38 <sandro> XML Schema Participants: * BEA Systems, Inc. (1 representative) * Boeing Company (1 representative) * Bologna, University of (3 representatives) * Defense Information Systems Agency (DISA) (5 representatives) * Ecole Mohammadia d'Ingenieurs Rabat (EMI) (1 representative) * Edinburgh (HCRC Language Technology Group) (1 representative) * IBM Corporation (2 representatives) * Mark Logic Corporation (1 representative) * National Association of Convenience Stores (NA

Sandro Hawke: XML Schema Participants: * BEA Systems, Inc. (1 representative) * Boeing Company (1 representative) * Bologna, University of (3 representatives) * Defense Information Systems Agency (DISA) (5 representatives) * Ecole Mohammadia d'Ingenieurs Rabat (EMI) (1 representative) * Edinburgh (HCRC Language Technology Group) (1 representative) * IBM Corporation (2 representatives) * Mark Logic Corporation (1 representative) * National Association of Convenience Stores (NA

17:51:38 <sandro> CS) (1 representative) * National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) (1 representative) * Oracle Corporation (2 representatives) * Sun Microsystems, Inc. (1 representative)

Sandro Hawke: CS) (1 representative) * National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) (1 representative) * Oracle Corporation (2 representatives) * Sun Microsystems, Inc. (1 representative)

17:51:58 <vipul> Alan: Connections to the OMG

Alan Ruttenberg: Connections to the OMG [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:52:09 <ivan> note: mapping by Vipul refers to a possible XG on mapping between relational data in an RDB and RDF

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Unknown note: mapping by Vipul refers to a possible XG on mapping between relational data in an RDB and RDF [ Scribe Assist by Ivan Herman ]

17:52:21 <vipul> Elisa: Evan and Elisa could do the coordination... Both of them co-chair the Ontology WG there

Elisa Kendall: Evan and Elisa could do the coordination... Both of them co-chair the Ontology WG there [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:52:28 <sandro> Elisa: Evan and I co-chair the ontology PSIG at OMG.

Elisa Kendall: Evan and I co-chair the ontology PSIG at OMG. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

17:52:58 <alanr_> q?

Alan Ruttenberg: q?

17:53:07 <alanr_> ack vipul

Alan Ruttenberg: ack vipul

17:53:21 <vipul> Alan: Future meeting - Elisa and Evan could speak on similarities nd dependencies

Alan Ruttenberg: Future meeting - Elisa and Evan could speak on similarities nd dependencies [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:53:26 <alanr_> http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/bld/draft-2007-10-19.html

Alan Ruttenberg: http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/bld/draft-2007-10-19.html

17:53:31 <sandro> Topic: RIF Review

2. RIF Review

17:53:39 <alanr_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-owl-wg/2007Oct/0066.html

Alan Ruttenberg: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-owl-wg/2007Oct/0066.html

17:53:48 <ivan> :-)

Ivan Herman: :-)

17:54:03 <alanr_> q?

Alan Ruttenberg: q?

17:54:28 <pfps> +1

Peter Patel-Schneider: +1

17:54:31 <ivan> +1

Ivan Herman: +1

17:54:36 <pfps> zakim, unmute me

Peter Patel-Schneider: zakim, unmute me

17:54:36 <Zakim> pfps should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: pfps should no longer be muted

17:54:50 <sandro> Sandro: say +1 if you have read Peter's response....

Sandro Hawke: say +1 if you have read Peter's response.... [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

17:54:52 <Jeremy> (some hp eyeballs looked at some version, but I haven't)

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Unknown Jeremy: (some hp eyeballs looked at some version, but I haven't)

17:54:56 <Zakim> -bijan

Zakim IRC Bot: -bijan

17:55:08 <pfps> q+

Peter Patel-Schneider: q+

17:55:27 <uli_> +1

Uli Sattler: +1

17:55:30 <vipul> q+

Vipul Kashyap: q+

17:55:36 <Zakim> +??P1

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P1

17:55:41 <alanr_> q?

Alan Ruttenberg: q?

17:55:47 <Jeremy> q+ to suggest a procedural approach ....

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Unknown Jeremy: q+ to suggest a procedural approach ....

17:55:56 <vipul> Sandro: Need some people to review...

Sandro Hawke: Need some people to review... [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:56:48 <vipul> Sandro: If it comes down to more substantive issues then it may make more sense to review them

Sandro Hawke: If it comes down to more substantive issues then it may make more sense to review them [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:56:53 <alanr_> q?

Alan Ruttenberg: q?

17:56:55 <bijan> Sorry I've been out of contact

Bijan Parsia: Sorry I've been out of contact

17:56:56 <alanr_> qck pfps

Alan Ruttenberg: qck pfps

17:56:59 <bijan> And want to chime in

Bijan Parsia: And want to chime in

17:57:02 <alanr_> ack pfps

Alan Ruttenberg: ack pfps

17:57:09 <bijan> zakim, unmute me

Bijan Parsia: zakim, unmute me

17:57:09 <Zakim> sorry, bijan, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, bijan, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you

17:57:23 <alanr_> q?

Alan Ruttenberg: q?

17:57:27 <alanr_> qck vipul

Alan Ruttenberg: qck vipul

17:57:31 <alanr_> ack vipul

Alan Ruttenberg: ack vipul

17:57:41 <uli_> which symbols do you mean, Vipul?

Uli Sattler: which symbols do you mean, Vipul?

17:57:55 <alanr_> ^^

Alan Ruttenberg: ^^

17:57:57 <alanr_> ##

Alan Ruttenberg: ##

17:58:09 <alanr_> q?

Alan Ruttenberg: q?

17:58:28 <alanr_> q?

Alan Ruttenberg: q?

17:58:30 <bijan> q+

Bijan Parsia: q+

17:58:42 <uli_> +1

Uli Sattler: +1

17:58:48 <vipul> Sandro: Disagrees with the Peter Re: consideration from RIF

Sandro Hawke: Disagrees with the Peter Re: consideration from RIF [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:59:06 <sandro> s/Disagreed/doesn't really disagree/

Sandro Hawke: s/Disagreed/doesn't really disagree/ (warning: replacement failed)

17:59:06 <uli_> I was only slow in verifying that we were talking about the same email...

Uli Sattler: I was only slow in verifying that we were talking about the same email...

17:59:21 <alanr_> k

Alan Ruttenberg: k

17:59:53 <alanr_> q?

Alan Ruttenberg: q?

17:59:56 <sandro> ack Jeremy

Sandro Hawke: ack Jeremy

17:59:56 <Zakim> Jeremy, you wanted to suggest a procedural approach ....

Zakim IRC Bot: Jeremy, you wanted to suggest a procedural approach ....

17:59:57 <vipul> Jeremy: If specific endorsement of Peter's technical comments is required, then communication should be sent to OWLWG

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Unknown Jeremy: If specific endorsement of Peter's technical comments is required, then communication should be sent to OWLWG [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

17:59:58 <alanr_> q+ alanr

Alan Ruttenberg: q+ alanr

18:00:34 <pfps> zakim, mute me

Peter Patel-Schneider: zakim, mute me

18:00:34 <Zakim> pfps should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: pfps should now be muted

18:00:35 <sandro> +1 Jeremy --- endorsing Peter in broad terms and put the onus on RIF to come back on specific points as necessary.

Sandro Hawke: +1 Jeremy --- endorsing Peter in broad terms and put the onus on RIF to come back on specific points as necessary.

18:00:56 <vipul> Alan: Gotta go...

Alan Ruttenberg: Gotta go... [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ]

18:01:05 <alanr_> by vipul

Alan Ruttenberg: by vipul

18:01:06 <vipul> Can someone take over scribing?

Vipul Kashyap: Can someone take over scribing?

18:01:10 <alanr_> I will

Alan Ruttenberg: I will

18:01:13 <vipul> Thanks

Vipul Kashyap: Thanks

18:01:16 <Zakim> -Vipul_Kashyap

Zakim IRC Bot: -Vipul_Kashyap

18:01:36 <alanr_> Bijan: Bijan, as rep will review, then have phone call soon. RIF/OWL compat doc has been removed

Bijan Parsia: Bijan, as rep will review, then have phone call soon. RIF/OWL compat doc has been removed [ Scribe Assist by Alan Ruttenberg ]

18:01:44 <alanr_> sandro: moved to other document

Sandro Hawke: moved to other document [ Scribe Assist by Alan Ruttenberg ]

18:01:47 <alanr_> q?

Alan Ruttenberg: q?

18:01:50 <alanr_> ack bijan

Alan Ruttenberg: ack bijan

18:01:56 <ivan> q+

Ivan Herman: q+

18:02:07 <sandro> ack alanr_

Sandro Hawke: ack alanr_

18:02:21 <bijan> +1

Bijan Parsia: +1

18:02:30 <Jeremy> q+ to mention XML Schema comment

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Unknown Jeremy: q+ to mention XML Schema comment

18:03:10 <sandro> Alan: Based on Ivan and Uli having vetted Peter's review, I think we can make this officially from OWL WG.

Alan Ruttenberg: Based on Ivan and Uli having vetted Peter's review, I think we can make this officially from OWL WG. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

18:03:12 <alanr_> ack alanr

Alan Ruttenberg: ack alanr

18:03:20 <Jeremy> ack ivan

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Unknown Jeremy: ack ivan

18:03:23 <uli_> indeed, peter's document is a nice, understandable overview of RIF with a few polite questions

Uli Sattler: indeed, peter's document is a nice, understandable overview of RIF with a few polite questions

18:03:38 <alanr_> q?

Alan Ruttenberg: q?

18:03:51 <uli_> oups - I meant "overview of BLD"

Uli Sattler: oups - I meant "overview of BLD"

18:04:29 <pfps> zakim, mute me

Peter Patel-Schneider: zakim, mute me

18:04:29 <Zakim> pfps was already muted, pfps

Zakim IRC Bot: pfps was already muted, pfps

18:04:33 <alanr_> q?

Alan Ruttenberg: q?

18:04:38 <bijan> Noting that my modifications may be None

Bijan Parsia: Noting that my modifications may be None

18:04:41 <alanr_> ack jeremy

Alan Ruttenberg: ack jeremy

18:04:41 <Zakim> Jeremy, you wanted to mention XML Schema comment

Zakim IRC Bot: Jeremy, you wanted to mention XML Schema comment

18:04:51 <sandro> PROPOSED: Bijan check over Peter's review, and if he doesn't have any problem with it, he conveys it to RIF as a review from OWL WG

PROPOSED: Bijan check over Peter's review, and if he doesn't have any problem with it, he conveys it to RIF as a review from OWL WG

18:05:06 <Jeremy> (with minor mods_

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Unknown Jeremy: (with minor mods_

18:05:30 <pfps> i like jeremy's addendum

Peter Patel-Schneider: i like jeremy's addendum

18:05:44 <alanr_> q?

Alan Ruttenberg: q?

18:05:46 <sandro> PROPOSED: Bijan and Peter come to consensus on the 0066 review; if they suceed, they convey it to RIF as a review from the OWL WG

PROPOSED: Bijan and Peter come to consensus on the 0066 review; if they suceed, they convey it to RIF as a review from the OWL WG

18:05:49 <Jeremy> process tricks ....

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Unknown Jeremy: process tricks ....

18:05:59 <ew> +1

Evan Wallace: +1

18:06:03 <Jeremy> +1

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Unknown Jeremy: +1

18:06:06 <bijan> +1

Bijan Parsia: +1

18:06:07 <alanr_> +1

Alan Ruttenberg: +1

18:06:07 <Rinke> +1

Rinke Hoekstra: +1

18:06:08 <ivan> +1

Ivan Herman: +1

18:06:08 <MartinD> +1

Martin Dzbor: +1

18:06:10 <MikeSmith> +1

Michael Smith: +1

18:06:11 <pfps> +1, of course

Peter Patel-Schneider: +1, of course

18:06:13 <zhe> +1

Zhe Wu: +1

18:06:15 <Fabian> +1

Fabian Neuhaus: +1

18:06:17 <Achille> +1

Achille Fokoue: +1

18:06:24 <bmotik> +1

Boris Motik: +1

18:06:24 <uli_> +1

Uli Sattler: +1

18:06:29 <sandro> RESOLVED: Bijan check over Peter's review, and if he doesn't have any problem with it, he conveys it to RIF as a review from OWL WG

RESOLVED: Bijan check over Peter's review, and if he doesn't have any problem with it, he conveys it to RIF as a review from OWL WG

18:06:52 <Zakim> -Fabien

Zakim IRC Bot: -Fabien

18:06:52 <alanr_> :)

Alan Ruttenberg: :)

18:06:53 <Zakim> -Evan_Wallace

Zakim IRC Bot: -Evan_Wallace

18:07:02 <Zakim> -Jeremy

Scribe problem: the name 'Jeremy' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Zakim IRC Bot: -Jeremy

18:07:06 <Zakim> -MartinD

Zakim IRC Bot: -MartinD

18:07:08 <sandro> RESOLVED: Bijan and Peter come to consensus on the 0066 review; if they suceed, they convey it to RIF as a review from the OWL WG

RESOLVED: Bijan and Peter come to consensus on the 0066 review; if they suceed, they convey it to RIF as a review from the OWL WG

18:07:08 <uli_> bye

Uli Sattler: bye

18:07:09 <Zakim> -Achille

Zakim IRC Bot: -Achille

18:07:11 <Zakim> -MikeSmith

Zakim IRC Bot: -MikeSmith

18:07:11 <Rinke> bye

Rinke Hoekstra: bye

18:07:16 <sandro> (first version of resolution was in error!)

Sandro Hawke: (first version of resolution was in error!)

18:07:31 <Zakim> -??P1

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P1

18:07:49 <sandro> RRSAgent, make minutes

Sandro Hawke: RRSAgent, make minutes

18:07:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/10/31-owl-minutes.html sandro

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/10/31-owl-minutes.html sandro

18:07:58 <Zakim> -Rinke

Zakim IRC Bot: -Rinke

18:08:07 <Zakim> -uli

Zakim IRC Bot: -uli

18:08:14 <Zakim> -pfps

Zakim IRC Bot: -pfps

18:09:03 <Zakim> -DeborahMcGuinness

Zakim IRC Bot: -DeborahMcGuinness

18:11:22 <Zakim> - +1.408.774.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.408.774.aabb

18:11:31 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?

Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call?

18:11:31 <Zakim> On the phone I see Alan, Ivan, bmotik (muted), Sandro, Zhe_Wu, Ratnesh

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Alan, Ivan, bmotik (muted), Sandro, Zhe_Wu, Ratnesh

18:12:28 <bmotik> bye

Boris Motik: bye

18:12:34 <Zakim> -bmotik

Zakim IRC Bot: -bmotik

18:15:42 <Ratnesh> bye

Ratnesh Sahay: bye

18:15:57 <Zakim> -Ratnesh

Zakim IRC Bot: -Ratnesh

18:17:55 <Zakim> -Alan

Zakim IRC Bot: -Alan

18:17:59 <Zakim> -Ivan

Zakim IRC Bot: -Ivan

18:18:00 <Zakim> -Zhe_Wu

Zakim IRC Bot: -Zhe_Wu

18:19:01 <Zakim> -Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro

18:19:02 <Zakim> SW_OWL()12:00PM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: SW_OWL()12:00PM has ended

18:19:03 <Zakim> Attendees were JeremyCarroll, +1.617.253.aaaa, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik, MartinD, Sandro, Fabien, Zhe_Wu, Jeremy, pfps, bijan, Achille, MikeSmith,

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were JeremyCarroll, +1.617.253.aaaa, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik, MartinD, Sandro, Fabien, Zhe_Wu, Jeremy, pfps, bijan, Achille, MikeSmith,

18:19:05 <Zakim> ... uli, Ratnesh, +1.408.774.aabb, DeborahMcGuinness

Zakim IRC Bot: ... uli, Ratnesh, +1.408.774.aabb, DeborahMcGuinness

18:24:50 <IanH> q?

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Ian Horrocks: q?

18:26:10 <sandro> everyone's gone home, Ian.  :-)

Sandro Hawke: everyone's gone home, Ian. :-)

18:59:56 <IanH> I guessed that, but thought I would check :-(

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Ian Horrocks: I guessed that, but thought I would check :-(

19:00:24 <IanH> I made the huge mistake of trying to drive to my hotel in athens and had a bit of an epic!

Ian Horrocks: I made the huge mistake of trying to drive to my hotel in athens and had a bit of an epic!

19:00:58 <IanH> I am now off to drink a beer and soothe my shattered nerves :-)

Ian Horrocks: I am now off to drink a beer and soothe my shattered nerves :-)



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