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17:02:09 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/10/31-owl-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/10/31-owl-irc ←
17:02:19 <alanr_> All: 41# puts you on the queue
Scribe problem: the name 'All' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown All: 41# puts you on the queue [ Scribe Assist by Alan Ruttenberg ] ←
17:02:21 <sandro> Meeting: OWL
17:02:25 <alanr_> 40# takes you off
Alan Ruttenberg: 40# takes you off ←
17:02:34 <Zakim> -??P7
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P7 ←
17:02:43 <alanr_> 61# mutes
Alan Ruttenberg: 61# mutes ←
17:02:46 <alanr_> 60# unmutes
Alan Ruttenberg: 60# unmutes ←
17:02:53 <alanr_> http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Teleconference.2007.10.31/Agenda
Alan Ruttenberg: http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Teleconference.2007.10.31/Agenda ←
17:02:54 <bijan> Uhm, a lot of the Eu people mimght be confused on this point
Bijan Parsia: Uhm, a lot of the Eu people mimght be confused on this point ←
17:02:55 <bijan> uli was too
Bijan Parsia: uli was too ←
17:03:40 <alanr_> zakim, who is here?
Alan Ruttenberg: zakim, who is here? ←
17:03:40 <Zakim> On the phone I see DeborahMcGuiness, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik (muted), ??P30 (muted), MartinD, Sandro, Fabien (muted), [IBM], Zhe_Wu
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see DeborahMcGuiness, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik (muted), ??P30 (muted), MartinD, Sandro, Fabien (muted), [IBM], Zhe_Wu ←
17:03:44 <Zakim> On IRC I see zhe, RRSAgent, bijan, bmotik, MartinD, Ratnesh, ew, Rinke, vipul, alanr_, dlm, Zakim, sandro, pfps, ivan, trackbot-ng
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see zhe, RRSAgent, bijan, bmotik, MartinD, Ratnesh, ew, Rinke, vipul, alanr_, dlm, Zakim, sandro, pfps, ivan, trackbot-ng ←
17:03:47 <sandro> Adding topics after the fact is easy enough.
Sandro Hawke: Adding topics after the fact is easy enough. ←
17:03:51 <Zakim> +??P7
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P7 ←
17:04:03 <Zakim> +??P32
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P32 ←
17:04:18 <alanr_> q
Alan Ruttenberg: q ←
17:04:20 <alanr_> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:04:35 <Zakim> +??P33
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P33 ←
17:04:36 <alanr_> zakim, ??p30 is Jeremy
Alan Ruttenberg: zakim, ??p30 is Jeremy ←
17:04:45 <Zakim> +Jeremy; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Jeremy; got it ←
17:04:45 <pfps> zakim, ??p33 is me
Peter Patel-Schneider: zakim, ??p33 is me ←
17:04:48 <ivan> zakim, ??P32 is bijan
Ivan Herman: zakim, ??P32 is bijan ←
17:04:51 <Zakim> +pfps; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +pfps; got it ←
17:04:56 <bijan> zakim, mute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, mute me ←
17:04:59 <Zakim> +bijan; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +bijan; got it ←
17:04:59 <bijan> am I muted?
Bijan Parsia: am I muted? ←
17:05:03 <Zakim> bijan should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should now be muted ←
17:05:11 <alanr_> zakim, who is here?
Alan Ruttenberg: zakim, who is here? ←
17:05:13 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
17:05:23 <Zakim> On the phone I see DeborahMcGuiness, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik (muted), Jeremy, MartinD, Sandro, Fabien (muted), [IBM], Zhe_Wu, ??P7, bijan (muted),
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see DeborahMcGuiness, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik (muted), Jeremy, MartinD, Sandro, Fabien (muted), [IBM], Zhe_Wu, ??P7, bijan (muted), ←
17:05:25 <alanr_> PROPOSED: Accept Previous Minutes
PROPOSED: Accept Previous Minutes ←
17:05:31 <Zakim> ... pfps
Zakim IRC Bot: ... pfps ←
17:05:32 <Zakim> On the phone I see DeborahMcGuiness, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik (muted), Jeremy, MartinD, Sandro, Fabien (muted), [IBM], Zhe_Wu, ??P7, bijan (muted),
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see DeborahMcGuiness, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik (muted), Jeremy, MartinD, Sandro, Fabien (muted), [IBM], Zhe_Wu, ??P7, bijan (muted), ←
17:05:37 <Zakim> ... pfps
Zakim IRC Bot: ... pfps ←
17:05:39 <alanr_> http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Teleconference.2007.10.24/Minutes
Alan Ruttenberg: http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Teleconference.2007.10.24/Minutes ←
17:05:41 <Zakim> On IRC I see Achille, zhe, RRSAgent, bijan, bmotik, MartinD, Ratnesh, ew, Rinke, vipul, alanr_, dlm, Zakim, sandro, pfps, ivan, trackbot-ng
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Achille, zhe, RRSAgent, bijan, bmotik, MartinD, Ratnesh, ew, Rinke, vipul, alanr_, dlm, Zakim, sandro, pfps, ivan, trackbot-ng ←
17:06:56 <sandro> Zakim, [IBM] is temporarily Achille
Sandro Hawke: Zakim, [IBM] is temporarily Achille ←
17:06:56 <Zakim> +Achille; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Achille; got it ←
17:07:24 <alanr_> RESOLVED: Accept Previous Minutes
RESOLVED: Accept Previous Minutes ←
17:07:42 <Zakim> +??P0
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P0 ←
17:07:54 <sandro> Who just joined?
Sandro Hawke: Who just joined? ←
17:08:04 <sandro> And who is here from DERI Galway -- Ratnesh?
Sandro Hawke: And who is here from DERI Galway -- Ratnesh? ←
17:08:11 <vipul> Issues List: Migrated all issues from OWLED to Tracker
Vipul Kashyap: Issues List: Migrated all issues from OWLED to Tracker ←
17:08:11 <Zakim> +MikeSmith
Zakim IRC Bot: +MikeSmith ←
17:08:19 <ew> q+
Evan Wallace: q+ ←
17:08:23 <uli> zakim, ??P0 is me
Uli Sattler: zakim, ??P0 is me ←
17:08:23 <Zakim> +uli; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +uli; got it ←
17:08:24 <alanr_> http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/HowIssuesAreProcessed
Alan Ruttenberg: http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/HowIssuesAreProcessed ←
17:08:24 <Ratnesh> yes ratnesh
Ratnesh Sahay: yes ratnesh ←
17:08:33 <alanr_> http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/HowIssuesAreProcessed
Alan Ruttenberg: http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/HowIssuesAreProcessed ←
17:08:40 <alanr_> http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Issues
Alan Ruttenberg: http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Issues ←
17:08:40 <Ratnesh> Ratnesh from DERI Galway
Ratnesh Sahay: Ratnesh from DERI Galway ←
17:08:50 <sandro> Zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: Zakim, who is on the call? ←
17:08:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see DeborahMcGuiness, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik (muted), Jeremy, MartinD, Sandro, Fabien (muted), Achille, Zhe_Wu, ??P7, bijan (muted),
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see DeborahMcGuiness, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik (muted), Jeremy, MartinD, Sandro, Fabien (muted), Achille, Zhe_Wu, ??P7, bijan (muted), ←
17:08:53 <Zakim> ... pfps, uli (muted), MikeSmith
Zakim IRC Bot: ... pfps, uli (muted), MikeSmith ←
17:09:16 <sandro> Zakim, ??P7 is Ratnesh
Sandro Hawke: Zakim, ??P7 is Ratnesh ←
17:09:16 <Zakim> +Ratnesh; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ratnesh; got it ←
17:09:31 <sandro> Zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: Zakim, who is on the call? ←
17:09:31 <Zakim> On the phone I see DeborahMcGuiness, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik (muted), Jeremy, MartinD, Sandro, Fabien (muted), Achille, Zhe_Wu, Ratnesh, bijan
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see DeborahMcGuiness, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik (muted), Jeremy, MartinD, Sandro, Fabien (muted), Achille, Zhe_Wu, Ratnesh, bijan ←
17:09:34 <Zakim> ... (muted), pfps, uli (muted), MikeSmith
Zakim IRC Bot: ... (muted), pfps, uli (muted), MikeSmith ←
17:09:55 <dlm> is there a link to where we are being pointed to look?
Deborah McGuinness: is there a link to where we are being pointed to look? ←
17:10:07 <alanr_> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:10:21 <sandro> Attendees: DeborahMcGuiness, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik, Jeremy, MartinD, Sandro, Fabien, Achille, Zhe_Wu, Ratnesh, bijan, pfps, uli, MikeSmith
Scribe problem: the name 'Attendees' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown Attendees: DeborahMcGuiness, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik, Jeremy, MartinD, Sandro, Fabien, Achille, Zhe_Wu, Ratnesh, bijan, pfps, uli, MikeSmith [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
17:10:23 <alanr_> ack ew
Alan Ruttenberg: ack ew ←
17:10:27 <vipul> Issues List: Evan couldn't find an Issue on the Issue List
Vipul Kashyap: Issues List: Evan couldn't find an Issue on the Issue List ←
17:10:48 <vipul> Issues List: Evan asking about the completeness of the Issues List
Vipul Kashyap: Issues List: Evan asking about the completeness of the Issues List ←
17:10:48 <alanr_> http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/tracker/issues/open
Alan Ruttenberg: http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/tracker/issues/open ←
17:11:23 <vipul> Issues List:: Complete wrt google-code and OWL
Vipul Kashyap: Issues List:: Complete wrt google-code and OWL ←
17:11:31 <sandro> q- ??P30
Sandro Hawke: q- ??P30 ←
17:11:52 <vipul> Issues List: Alan suggests adding issues that were not transferred should be added
Vipul Kashyap: Issues List: Alan suggests adding issues that were not transferred should be added ←
17:11:53 <Fabian> Why I am not on the attendees list?
Fabian Neuhaus: Why I am not on the attendees list? ←
17:11:56 <sandro> ack Jeremy
Sandro Hawke: ack Jeremy ←
17:12:15 <sandro> Sorry, do we have Fabien here today, or only Fabian?
Sandro Hawke: Sorry, do we have Fabien here today, or only Fabian? ←
17:12:17 <vipul> Issues List: Jeremy wants to migrate issues from the OWL comments list
Vipul Kashyap: Issues List: Jeremy wants to migrate issues from the OWL comments list ←
17:12:18 <alanr_> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:12:34 <sandro> Attendees: DeborahMcGuiness, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik, Jeremy, MartinD, Sandro, Fabian, Achille, Zhe_Wu, Ratnesh, bijan, pfps, uli, MikeSmith
Scribe problem: the name 'Attendees' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown Attendees: DeborahMcGuiness, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik, Jeremy, MartinD, Sandro, Fabian, Achille, Zhe_Wu, Ratnesh, bijan, pfps, uli, MikeSmith [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
17:12:35 <pfps> zakim, mute me
Peter Patel-Schneider: zakim, mute me ←
17:12:35 <Zakim> pfps should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: pfps should now be muted ←
17:12:49 <sandro> corrected, Fabian.
Sandro Hawke: corrected, Fabian. ←
17:12:51 <Fabian> Thanks!
Fabian Neuhaus: Thanks! ←
17:13:20 <vipul> Less Technical Documents (LTDs): Would like to find User Facing Documents Task Force
Scribe problem: the name 'Jeremy' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown Jeremy: Less Technical Documents (LTDs): Would like to find User Facing Documents Task Force [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:13:21 <bijan> q+
Bijan Parsia: q+ ←
17:13:35 <sandro> Topic: User-Facing Documents
17:13:42 <vipul> LTDs: Documents such as OWL 1.0 Overview, Reference, User Guide
Scribe problem: the name 'LTDs' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown LTDs: Documents such as OWL 1.0 Overview, Reference, User Guide [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:14:24 <sandro> s/Less/Jeremy: Less/
17:14:25 <vipul> UFDs: Reuse OWL 1.0 Overview to create OWL 1.1 Overview in time for the Manchester F2F
Scribe problem: the name 'UFDs' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown UFDs: Reuse OWL 1.0 Overview to create OWL 1.1 Overview in time for the Manchester F2F [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:14:51 <sandro> vipul, don't use "Foo: ....." unless "Foo" is a person's name.
Sandro Hawke: vipul, don't use "Foo: ....." unless "Foo" is a person's name. ←
17:15:04 <vipul> UFDs: Work on the relating to features to requirements - Traceability Matrix
Scribe problem: the name 'UFDs' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown UFDs: Work on the relating to features to requirements - Traceability Matrix [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:15:17 <vipul> UFDs: Form a task force and report back to the main group
Scribe problem: the name 'UFDs' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown UFDs: Form a task force and report back to the main group [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:15:27 <sandro> Jeremy: The proposal is to form a Task Force
Scribe problem: the name 'Jeremy' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown Jeremy: The proposal is to form a Task Force [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
17:15:56 <alanr_> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:15:57 <bijan> zakim, unmute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, unmute me ←
17:15:58 <Zakim> bijan should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should no longer be muted ←
17:16:03 <sandro> ack bijan
Sandro Hawke: ack bijan ←
17:16:04 <alanr_> ack Bijan
Alan Ruttenberg: ack Bijan ←
17:16:31 <vipul> Bijan: Objection: WG will consider these as publication tracks
Bijan Parsia: Objection: WG will consider these as publication tracks [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:17:12 <vipul> Alan: Bijan's points - WG documents should not be the only outlet for the UFDs
Alan Ruttenberg: Bijan's points - WG documents should not be the only outlet for the UFDs [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:17:34 <vipul> Alan: What put to on XML page for OWL for instance
Alan Ruttenberg: What put to on XML page for OWL for instance [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:17:50 <Jeremy> q+ to mention charter
Scribe problem: the name 'Jeremy' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'Jeremy' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown Jeremy: q+ to mention charter ←
17:18:02 <vipul> Alan: Appropriate use of WG time .. making sure that this would not interfere with WG Tasks
Alan Ruttenberg: Appropriate use of WG time .. making sure that this would not interfere with WG Tasks [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:18:02 <Zakim> + +1.408.774.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.408.774.aabb ←
17:18:07 <vipul> Alan: Parallel track
Alan Ruttenberg: Parallel track [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:18:17 <vipul> Alan: Off WG meetings
Alan Ruttenberg: Off WG meetings [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:18:45 <vipul> Alan: Further approval of documents
Alan Ruttenberg: Further approval of documents [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:19:19 <sandro> (Who is +1.408.774.aabb ? )
Sandro Hawke: (Who is +1.408.774.aabb ? ) ←
17:19:24 <ew> q+
Evan Wallace: q+ ←
17:19:29 <alanr_> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:20:02 <bijan> q+
Bijan Parsia: q+ ←
17:20:12 <sandro> ack Jeremy
Sandro Hawke: ack Jeremy ←
17:20:12 <Zakim> Jeremy, you wanted to mention charter
Zakim IRC Bot: Jeremy, you wanted to mention charter ←
17:20:21 <vipul> Jeremy: Don't want to be not responsive to you
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Unknown Jeremy: Don't want to be not responsive to you [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:20:22 <alanr_> deb next
Alan Ruttenberg: deb next ←
17:20:29 <alanr_> then ew, bijan
Alan Ruttenberg: then ew, bijan ←
17:20:37 <vipul> Jeremy: Hence called "Less Technical Documents"
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Unknown Jeremy: Hence called "Less Technical Documents" [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:20:59 <ew> q-
Evan Wallace: q- ←
17:21:06 <alanr_> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:21:08 <bijan> zakim, unmute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, unmute me ←
17:21:08 <Zakim> bijan was not muted, bijan
Zakim IRC Bot: bijan was not muted, bijan ←
17:21:15 <vipul> Jeremy: Charter Section 2 specifically taks about documents which all 5 of us want to produce
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Unknown Jeremy: Charter Section 2 specifically taks about documents which all 5 of us want to produce [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:21:17 <sandro> q?
Sandro Hawke: q? ←
17:21:25 <sandro> q+ Deb
Sandro Hawke: q+ Deb ←
17:21:27 <alanr_> q+ deb
Alan Ruttenberg: q+ deb ←
17:21:28 <sandro> ack bijan
Sandro Hawke: ack bijan ←
17:21:36 <vipul> Bijan: Variety of users
Bijan Parsia: Variety of users [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:21:50 <vipul> Bijan: Not objecting to producing variety of documents
Bijan Parsia: Not objecting to producing variety of documents [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:21:51 <sandro> bijan: "Outreach documents"
Bijan Parsia: "Outreach documents" [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
17:22:13 <vipul> Bijan: That is the only or the best way to meeting the requirements of the WG charter
Bijan Parsia: That is the only or the best way to meeting the requirements of the WG charter [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:22:26 <vipul> Bijan: Would like a discussion on this
Bijan Parsia: Would like a discussion on this [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:22:30 <alanr_> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:22:46 <vipul> Bijan: Need to sanction whether these are WG documents
Bijan Parsia: Need to sanction whether these are WG documents [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:22:50 <alanr_> q+
Alan Ruttenberg: q+ ←
17:23:03 <sandro> Bijan: People working on these documents should understand that they might not become WG documents. They might not be how we meet the charter requirement.
Bijan Parsia: People working on these documents should understand that they might not become WG documents. They might not be how we meet the charter requirement. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
17:23:11 <sandro> ack deb
Sandro Hawke: ack deb ←
17:23:13 <vipul> Deborah: Something like OWL 1.1 Overivew document out
Deborah McGuinness: Something like OWL 1.1 Overivew document out [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:23:28 <Jeremy> No: Deb said OWL 1.0 Overview doc
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Vit Novacek: Deb said OWL 1.0 Overview doc [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Jeremy ] ←
17:23:38 <vipul> Deborah: If disagreement about that ... we need a discussion before we put energy in it
Deborah McGuinness: If disagreement about that ... we need a discussion before we put energy in it [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:23:39 <sandro> Deb: If there is disagreement about whether we'll publish something like this, I'd want to hear that disagreement NOW.
Deborah McGuinness: If there is disagreement about whether we'll publish something like this, I'd want to hear that disagreement NOW. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
17:23:41 <bijan> zakim, mute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, mute me ←
17:23:41 <Zakim> bijan should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should now be muted ←
17:24:06 <vipul> Deborah.: OWL 1.1 Overview similar to OWL 1.0 Overview document?
Vipul Kashyap: Deborah.: OWL 1.1 Overview similar to OWL 1.0 Overview document? ←
17:24:43 <vipul> Alan: OWL Overview is simple presentation of features
Alan Ruttenberg: OWL Overview is simple presentation of features [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:24:58 <vipul> Alan: Goal is to produce something of that nature
Alan Ruttenberg: Goal is to produce something of that nature [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:25:16 <bijan> I'll note that I have an interest in working on an Overview document
Bijan Parsia: I'll note that I have an interest in working on an Overview document ←
17:25:28 <vipul> Alan: Goal of the traceability document is to have features related to a set of use cases in different domains
Alan Ruttenberg: Goal of the traceability document is to have features related to a set of use cases in different domains [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:25:41 <vipul> Alan: Demonstrate the value of OWL 1.1 over OWL 1.0
Alan Ruttenberg: Demonstrate the value of OWL 1.1 over OWL 1.0 [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:25:46 <pfps> I am also interested working in an Overview document.
Peter Patel-Schneider: I am also interested working in an Overview document. ←
17:26:00 <vipul> Alan: Issues with some features
Alan Ruttenberg: Issues with some features [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:26:05 <bijan> zakim, unmute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, unmute me ←
17:26:05 <Zakim> bijan should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should no longer be muted ←
17:26:40 <vipul> Bijan: Overview document will be helpful
Bijan Parsia: Overview document will be helpful [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:26:53 <vipul> Bijan: Traceability committed to producing
Bijan Parsia: Traceability committed to producing [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:27:16 <vipul> Bijan: Not convinced that it is useful use of your time
Bijan Parsia: Not convinced that it is useful use of your time [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:27:23 <Jeremy> q+ to address longevity
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Scribe problem: the name 'Jeremy' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown Jeremy: q+ to address longevity ←
17:27:26 <vipul> Bijan: Longevity problems
Bijan Parsia: Longevity problems [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:27:48 <vipul> Alan: Have examples where documents didn't age gracefully?
Alan Ruttenberg: Have examples where documents didn't age gracefully? [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:27:59 <vipul> Bijan: Implementation Reports
Bijan Parsia: Implementation Reports [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:28:02 <alanr_> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:28:07 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
17:28:07 <Zakim> On the phone I see DeborahMcGuiness, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik (muted), Jeremy, MartinD, Sandro, Fabien (muted), Achille, Zhe_Wu, Ratnesh, bijan, pfps
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see DeborahMcGuiness, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik (muted), Jeremy, MartinD, Sandro, Fabien (muted), Achille, Zhe_Wu, Ratnesh, bijan, pfps ←
17:28:08 <alanr_> ack alanr_
Alan Ruttenberg: ack alanr_ ←
17:28:10 <Zakim> ... (muted), uli (muted), MikeSmith, +1.408.774.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: ... (muted), uli (muted), MikeSmith, +1.408.774.aabb ←
17:28:34 <sandro> Zakim, DeborahMcGuiness is DeborahMcGuinness
Sandro Hawke: Zakim, DeborahMcGuiness is DeborahMcGuinness ←
17:28:34 <Zakim> +DeborahMcGuinness; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +DeborahMcGuinness; got it ←
17:28:47 <Fabian> zakim, mute me
Fabian Neuhaus: zakim, mute me ←
17:28:47 <Zakim> sorry, Fabian, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Fabian, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you ←
17:29:05 <vipul> Bijan: Document like requirements document kept live would not be good
Bijan Parsia: Document like requirements document kept live would not be good [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:29:09 <bijan> zakim, mute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, mute me ←
17:29:09 <Zakim> bijan should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should now be muted ←
17:29:20 <Fabian> I am afraid zakim mistakes me for Fabien. How do I change that?
Fabian Neuhaus: I am afraid zakim mistakes me for Fabien. How do I change that? ←
17:29:22 <vipul> Jeremy: Traceability is a short term document
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Unknown Jeremy: Traceability is a short term document [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:29:31 <vipul> q+
Vipul Kashyap: q+ ←
17:29:33 <ew> +1 to Jeremy's comment
Evan Wallace: +1 to Jeremy's comment ←
17:29:54 <alanr_> ack jeremy
Alan Ruttenberg: ack jeremy ←
17:29:54 <Zakim> Jeremy, you wanted to address longevity
Zakim IRC Bot: Jeremy, you wanted to address longevity ←
17:30:01 <alanr_> ack vipul
Alan Ruttenberg: ack vipul ←
17:30:19 <bijan> q+
Bijan Parsia: q+ ←
17:30:26 <alanr_> q+ alanr
Alan Ruttenberg: q+ alanr ←
17:30:41 <bijan> zakim, unmute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, unmute me ←
17:30:41 <Zakim> bijan should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should no longer be muted ←
17:30:46 <Jeremy> Vipul: we can decide whetehr traceability has long-term value, in the future - we don't need to decide now
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Vipul Kashyap: we can decide whetehr traceability has long-term value, in the future - we don't need to decide now [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Jeremy ] ←
17:31:08 <vipul> Bijan: Communicating to people now
Bijan Parsia: Communicating to people now [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:31:22 <vipul> Bijan: WD may not be the best way to do that
Bijan Parsia: WD may not be the best way to do that [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:31:34 <vipul> Bijan: Feature matrices are very useful for adoption, etc.
Bijan Parsia: Feature matrices are very useful for adoption, etc. [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:31:39 <alanr_> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:31:43 <alanr_> ack bijan
Alan Ruttenberg: ack bijan ←
17:31:46 <vipul> Bijan: That gets stale over time
Bijan Parsia: That gets stale over time [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:32:12 <bijan> zakim, mute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, mute me ←
17:32:12 <Zakim> bijan should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should now be muted ←
17:32:12 <vipul> Bijan: Have some commitment that they could be updated
Bijan Parsia: Have some commitment that they could be updated [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:32:13 <alanr_> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:32:27 <vipul> q+
Vipul Kashyap: q+ ←
17:32:27 <dlm> whop yes i did
Deborah McGuinness: whop yes i did ←
17:33:07 <dlm> +q
Deborah McGuinness: +q ←
17:33:11 <alanr_> ack alanr
Alan Ruttenberg: ack alanr ←
17:33:14 <Jeremy> q+ to ask for action to convene next 'user facing' tf meeting
Scribe problem: the name 'Jeremy' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'Jeremy' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown Jeremy: q+ to ask for action to convene next 'user facing' tf meeting ←
17:33:14 <alanr_> ack vipul
Alan Ruttenberg: ack vipul ←
17:33:59 <vipul> Deborah: Is OWL 1.0 Overview is a big risk for becoming outdated
Deborah McGuinness: Is OWL 1.0 Overview is a big risk for becoming outdated [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:34:02 <pfps> I'm not keen on an OWL 1.0 style document - it is rather long
Peter Patel-Schneider: I'm not keen on an OWL 1.0 style document - it is rather long ←
17:34:06 <alanr_> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:34:10 <alanr_> ack dlm
Alan Ruttenberg: ack dlm ←
17:34:19 <bijan> I would have attended the TF but it came up too quickly forme
Bijan Parsia: I would have attended the TF but it came up too quickly forme ←
17:34:25 <alanr_> ack Jeremy
Alan Ruttenberg: ack Jeremy ←
17:34:25 <Zakim> Jeremy, you wanted to ask for action to convene next 'user facing' tf meeting
Zakim IRC Bot: Jeremy, you wanted to ask for action to convene next 'user facing' tf meeting ←
17:34:28 <vipul> ACTION: Jeremy to convene the next UFD task force
ACTION: Jeremy to convene the next UFD task force ←
17:34:28 <trackbot-ng> Sorry, couldn't find user - Jeremy
Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, couldn't find user - Jeremy ←
17:35:09 <alanr_> http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Backward_compatibility_audit
Alan Ruttenberg: http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Backward_compatibility_audit ←
17:35:19 <sandro> Alas, Jeremy, you're not officially in the WG yet, so the tracker can't track actions on you.....
Sandro Hawke: Alas, Jeremy, you're not officially in the WG yet, so the tracker can't track actions on you..... ←
17:35:33 <bijan> You can put it in my name
Bijan Parsia: You can put it in my name ←
17:35:35 <vipul> alan: Agreement requirement on the definition of backward compatibility
Alan Ruttenberg: Agreement requirement on the definition of backward compatibility [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:35:37 <alanr_> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:35:42 <vipul> Alan: Task Force for Test Cases
Alan Ruttenberg: Task Force for Test Cases [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:35:44 <bijan> And I'll delegate to my good friend jeremy :)
Bijan Parsia: And I'll delegate to my good friend jeremy :) ←
17:35:47 <Zakim> +??P27
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P27 ←
17:35:53 <Zakim> -Jeremy
Scribe problem: the name 'Jeremy' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Zakim IRC Bot: -Jeremy ←
17:36:07 <sandro> Zakim, ??P27 is Jeremy
Sandro Hawke: Zakim, ??P27 is Jeremy ←
17:36:07 <Zakim> +Jeremy; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Jeremy; got it ←
17:36:16 <bijan> I can't hear jeremy very well
Bijan Parsia: I can't hear jeremy very well ←
17:36:23 <vipul> Jeremy: Its still a bit early to have the test cases
Scribe problem: the name 'Jeremy' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown Jeremy: Its still a bit early to have the test cases [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:36:44 <Zakim> -Jeremy
Scribe problem: the name 'Jeremy' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Zakim IRC Bot: -Jeremy ←
17:37:05 <alanr_> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:37:06 <Zakim> +??P27
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P27 ←
17:37:12 <bijan> I missed soemthing
Bijan Parsia: I missed soemthing ←
17:37:19 <Jeremy> Zakim, ??P27 is me
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Scribe problem: the name 'Jeremy' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown Jeremy: Zakim, ??P27 is me ←
17:37:19 <Zakim> +Jeremy; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Jeremy; got it ←
17:37:20 <vipul> Alan: OWL 1.0 test cases should run and produce same results as a criteria for backward compatibility
Alan Ruttenberg: OWL 1.0 test cases should run and produce same results as a criteria for backward compatibility [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:37:22 <bijan> alanr could you restate it?
Bijan Parsia: alanr could you restate it? ←
17:37:29 <Elisa> +1
Elisa Kendall: +1 ←
17:37:30 <Achille> +1
Achille Fokoue: +1 ←
17:37:32 <vipul> Sandro: Good starting point
Sandro Hawke: Good starting point [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:37:34 <pfps> actually some of the test cases *could* change as a result of the extended expressive power of OWL 1.1
Peter Patel-Schneider: actually some of the test cases *could* change as a result of the extended expressive power of OWL 1.1 ←
17:37:42 <sandro> Jeremy: Still too early to make new test cases, but not too early to think about how we want to handle them.
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Unknown Jeremy: Still too early to make new test cases, but not too early to think about how we want to handle them. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
17:37:44 <bijan> zakim, unmute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, unmute me ←
17:37:44 <Zakim> bijan should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should no longer be muted ←
17:37:45 <bijan> q+
Bijan Parsia: q+ ←
17:37:55 <Rinke> Cannot oversee the consequences of such a resolution
Rinke Hoekstra: Cannot oversee the consequences of such a resolution ←
17:38:02 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is talking? ←
17:38:12 <vipul> Bijan: Could be bugs in test suite
Bijan Parsia: Could be bugs in test suite [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:38:12 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Sandro (45%), Alan (5%), Vipul_Kashyap (5%), bijan (80%)
Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Sandro (45%), Alan (5%), Vipul_Kashyap (5%), bijan (80%) ←
17:38:17 <Jeremy> +1 to bijan
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Unknown Jeremy: +1 to bijan ←
17:38:19 <vipul> Bijan: Could be a good starting point
Bijan Parsia: Could be a good starting point [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:38:35 <sandro> Bijan: It's a good starting point, but I wouldn't want to RESOLVE it, since we may want to break it in small ways.
Bijan Parsia: It's a good starting point, but I wouldn't want to RESOLVE it, since we may want to break it in small ways. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
17:38:54 <vipul> Sandro: Poilicies around test cases
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Unknown Jeremny: Poilicies around test cases [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:39:12 <bijan> zakim, mute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, mute me ←
17:39:12 <Zakim> bijan should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should now be muted ←
17:39:15 <ivan> s/Sandro/Jeremny/
17:39:18 <alanr_> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:39:23 <vipul> Sandro: Requirement that WG only approve tests that it regarded as correct
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Unknown Jeremy: Requirement that WG only approve tests that it regarded as correct [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:39:27 <bijan> ack bijan
Bijan Parsia: ack bijan ←
17:39:28 <alanr_> ack bijan
Alan Ruttenberg: ack bijan ←
17:39:35 <ivan> s/Sandro/Jeremy/
17:39:38 <bijan> zakim, mute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, mute me ←
17:39:38 <Zakim> bijan should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should now be muted ←
17:39:50 <vipul> Alan: Test case per wiki page
Alan Ruttenberg: Test case per wiki page [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:40:15 <bijan> q+
Bijan Parsia: q+ ←
17:40:17 <sandro> scribe note -- Jeremy said there is NOT a requirement that the WG only apporove "correct" test cases.
Sandro Hawke: scribe note -- Jeremy said there is NOT a requirement that the WG only apporove "correct" test cases. ←
17:40:18 <vipul> Alan: Bias to write as many test cases as possible in the functional syntax
Alan Ruttenberg: Bias to write as many test cases as possible in the functional syntax [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:40:31 <alanr_> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:40:37 <vipul> Alan: Cannot do a test case to check RDF mapping example
Alan Ruttenberg: Cannot do a test case to check RDF mapping example [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:40:50 <vipul> Bijan: In OWL 1.0, tests in some database
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Unknown Jeremy: In OWL 1.0, tests in some database [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:41:13 <bijan> s/Bijan/Jeremy/
17:41:18 <bijan> +1 to all syntaxes
Bijan Parsia: +1 to all syntaxes ←
17:41:25 <vipul> Bijan: Can generate all possible syntaxes for the test
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Unknown Jeremy: Can generate all possible syntaxes for the test [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:41:26 <bijan> This is very easy with the OWL API
Bijan Parsia: This is very easy with the OWL API ←
17:41:33 <bijan> s/Bijan/Jeremy/
17:41:40 <bijan> vipul, tha'ts jeremy, not me
Bijan Parsia: vipul, tha'ts jeremy, not me ←
17:41:42 <sandro> EVERYTHING is totally programmable. :-)
Sandro Hawke: EVERYTHING is totally programmable. :-) ←
17:41:48 <bijan> zakim, ack me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, ack me ←
17:41:48 <Zakim> unmuting bijan
Zakim IRC Bot: unmuting bijan ←
17:41:49 <vipul> Alan: Wiki is programmable
Alan Ruttenberg: Wiki is programmable [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:41:50 <Zakim> I see no one on the speaker queue
Zakim IRC Bot: I see no one on the speaker queue ←
17:41:52 <alanr_> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:41:52 <Rinke> +1 to all syntaxes as well, seems weird to focus on the FS if we are still tinkering with it
Rinke Hoekstra: +1 to all syntaxes as well, seems weird to focus on the FS if we are still tinkering with it ←
17:41:58 <bmotik> I aplologize, but I need to take a 3 minute break to attend to something.
Boris Motik: I aplologize, but I need to take a 3 minute break to attend to something. ←
17:42:24 <Jeremy> q+ to mention problem with alternative syntaxes
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Unknown Jeremy: q+ to mention problem with alternative syntaxes ←
17:42:28 <MikeSmith> +1 to multiple syntaxes
Michael Smith: +1 to multiple syntaxes ←
17:42:45 <bijan> zakim, mute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, mute me ←
17:42:45 <Zakim> bijan should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should now be muted ←
17:42:49 <alanr_> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:42:54 <alanr_> ack jeremy
Alan Ruttenberg: ack jeremy ←
17:42:54 <Zakim> Jeremy, you wanted to mention problem with alternative syntaxes
Zakim IRC Bot: Jeremy, you wanted to mention problem with alternative syntaxes ←
17:42:58 <vipul> Jeremy: Flexibility => Tool has a bug => Bug in your test suite
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Unknown Jeremy: Flexibility => Tool has a bug => Bug in your test suite [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:43:24 <sandro> Alan: Trust But Verify
Alan Ruttenberg: Trust But Verify [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
17:43:24 <vipul> Alan: Explicit tests that tool translation matches the correct answer
Alan Ruttenberg: Explicit tests that tool translation matches the correct answer [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:43:40 <bijan> You have a core set of tests about the translation (Alan suggested this
Bijan Parsia: You have a core set of tests about the translation (Alan suggested this ←
17:43:54 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is talking? ←
17:43:56 <alanr_> http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Teleconference.2007.10.31/TestCasesRequirements
Alan Ruttenberg: http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Teleconference.2007.10.31/TestCasesRequirements ←
17:43:59 <alanr_> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:44:01 <bmotik> I'm back and I have bernardo on the speakerphone
Boris Motik: I'm back and I have bernardo on the speakerphone ←
17:44:05 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Sandro (11%), Alan (11%), Jeremy (32%)
Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Sandro (11%), Alan (11%), Jeremy (32%) ←
17:44:18 <alanr_> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:44:37 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is talking? ←
17:44:48 <sandro> ack sandro
Sandro Hawke: ack sandro ←
17:44:50 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Alan (62%), Jeremy (25%), MartinD (5%), Ivan (9%)
Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Alan (62%), Jeremy (25%), MartinD (5%), Ivan (9%) ←
17:44:56 <bijan> Btw, for the interested, i started work on an OWL 1.1 tutoiral a long time ago, and I found a swoop like tabbed interface that I adapted: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~bparsia/2007/owltutorial/
Bijan Parsia: Btw, for the interested, i started work on an OWL 1.1 tutoiral a long time ago, and I found a swoop like tabbed interface that I adapted: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~bparsia/2007/owltutorial/ ←
17:44:56 <Jeremy> (what about the RIF report???)
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Unknown Jeremy: (what about the RIF report???) ←
17:45:05 <bijan> Might be fun for test cases
Bijan Parsia: Might be fun for test cases ←
17:45:24 <bijan> Or for examples
Bijan Parsia: Or for examples ←
17:45:34 <vipul> Alan: Dependency on another group on our charter - what are expectations and why does W3C do that?
Alan Ruttenberg: Dependency on another group on our charter - what are expectations and why does W3C do that? [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:45:45 <vipul> Sandro: some interaction between the specs
Sandro Hawke: some interaction between the specs [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:45:59 <vipul> Sandro: Implementor needs to understand both spects
Sandro Hawke: Implementor needs to understand both spects [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:46:12 <Rinke> I like the tabbed interface!
Rinke Hoekstra: I like the tabbed interface! ←
17:46:13 <vipul> Sandro: Bad thing for two specs to contradict each other
Sandro Hawke: Bad thing for two specs to contradict each other [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:46:24 <vipul> Alan: Have people to be liasions
Alan Ruttenberg: Have people to be liasions [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:46:36 <vipul> Alan: communicate any changes
Alan Ruttenberg: communicate any changes [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:46:48 <bijan> We have different groups,s ome are producing specs (like RIF) and others which don't (e.g., HCLS, at least not specs that affect us)
Bijan Parsia: We have different groups,s ome are producing specs (like RIF) and others which don't (e.g., HCLS, at least not specs that affect us) ←
17:46:59 <alanr_> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:47:01 <bijan> I'm on RIF and HCLS
Bijan Parsia: I'm on RIF and HCLS ←
17:47:07 <vipul> Alan: Any volunteers for liastions
Alan Ruttenberg: Any volunteers for liastions [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:47:11 <ivan> I am on SWEO
Ivan Herman: I am on SWEO ←
17:47:14 <bijan> I could do RIF
Bijan Parsia: I could do RIF ←
17:47:17 <ivan> sure
Ivan Herman: sure ←
17:47:23 <Elisa> I'm active in SWD
Elisa Kendall: I'm active in SWD ←
17:47:27 <ivan> I am also on SWCG:-)
Ivan Herman: I am also on SWCG:-) ←
17:47:39 <bijan> What's SWD?
Bijan Parsia: What's SWD? ←
17:47:47 <bijan> Ah! Good
Bijan Parsia: Ah! Good ←
17:48:00 <vipul> I could do HCLS
Vipul Kashyap: I could do HCLS ←
17:48:03 <bijan> Also, several of us are OWLED steering committee members
Bijan Parsia: Also, several of us are OWLED steering committee members ←
17:48:18 <ivan> note: both HCLS and SWEO will be rechartered early 2008
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Unknown note: both HCLS and SWEO will be rechartered early 2008 [ Scribe Assist by Ivan Herman ] ←
17:48:28 <Jeremy> q+ to mention Stuart/TAG
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Unknown Jeremy: q+ to mention Stuart/TAG ←
17:49:15 <bijan> Are they really relevant?
Bijan Parsia: Are they really relevant? ←
17:49:19 <ivan> URW is an incubator group
Ivan Herman: URW is an incubator group ←
17:49:24 <bijan> zakim, unmute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, unmute me ←
17:49:25 <Zakim> bijan should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should no longer be muted ←
17:49:32 <Rinke> I think Anne Cregan is in the uncertainty thing
Rinke Hoekstra: I think Anne Cregan is in the uncertainty thing ←
17:49:43 <ivan> Rinke: yes, she is
Rinke Hoekstra: yes, she is [ Scribe Assist by Ivan Herman ] ←
17:49:56 <vipul> Alan: Liasons with other groups - Bijan with RIF, Ivan with SWEO, Elisa with SWD, Vipul with HCLS
Alan Ruttenberg: Liasons with other groups - Bijan with RIF, Ivan with SWEO, Elisa with SWD, Vipul with HCLS [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:50:07 <uli_> ...and I think Jeff is as well in the uncertainty one
Uli Sattler: ...and I think Jeff is as well in the uncertainty one ←
17:50:09 <ew> Jeff Pan and others are members of Uncertainty XG
Evan Wallace: Jeff Pan and others are members of Uncertainty XG ←
17:50:15 <alanr_> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:50:24 <Jeremy> q-
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Unknown Jeremy: q- ←
17:50:26 <vipul> Alan: Liasons with XML Schema and Uncertainty XG to be decided
Alan Ruttenberg: Liasons with XML Schema and Uncertainty XG to be decided [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:50:28 <vipul> q+
Vipul Kashyap: q+ ←
17:50:47 <ew> +1 on user defined datatypes by any name
Evan Wallace: +1 on user defined datatypes by any name ←
17:50:55 <uli_> +1 to Bijan
Uli Sattler: +1 to Bijan ←
17:51:18 <bijan> zakim, mute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, mute me ←
17:51:18 <Zakim> bijan should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bijan should now be muted ←
17:51:21 <alanr_> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:51:21 <vipul> Bijan: XML Schema group did not give OWL WG defined datatypes by name
Bijan Parsia: XML Schema group did not give OWL WG defined datatypes by name [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:51:38 <sandro> XML Schema Participants: * BEA Systems, Inc. (1 representative) * Boeing Company (1 representative) * Bologna, University of (3 representatives) * Defense Information Systems Agency (DISA) (5 representatives) * Ecole Mohammadia d'Ingenieurs Rabat (EMI) (1 representative) * Edinburgh (HCRC Language Technology Group) (1 representative) * IBM Corporation (2 representatives) * Mark Logic Corporation (1 representative) * National Association of Convenience Stores (NA
Sandro Hawke: XML Schema Participants: * BEA Systems, Inc. (1 representative) * Boeing Company (1 representative) * Bologna, University of (3 representatives) * Defense Information Systems Agency (DISA) (5 representatives) * Ecole Mohammadia d'Ingenieurs Rabat (EMI) (1 representative) * Edinburgh (HCRC Language Technology Group) (1 representative) * IBM Corporation (2 representatives) * Mark Logic Corporation (1 representative) * National Association of Convenience Stores (NA ←
17:51:38 <sandro> CS) (1 representative) * National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) (1 representative) * Oracle Corporation (2 representatives) * Sun Microsystems, Inc. (1 representative)
Sandro Hawke: CS) (1 representative) * National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) (1 representative) * Oracle Corporation (2 representatives) * Sun Microsystems, Inc. (1 representative) ←
17:51:58 <vipul> Alan: Connections to the OMG
Alan Ruttenberg: Connections to the OMG [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:52:09 <ivan> note: mapping by Vipul refers to a possible XG on mapping between relational data in an RDB and RDF
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Unknown note: mapping by Vipul refers to a possible XG on mapping between relational data in an RDB and RDF [ Scribe Assist by Ivan Herman ] ←
17:52:21 <vipul> Elisa: Evan and Elisa could do the coordination... Both of them co-chair the Ontology WG there
Elisa Kendall: Evan and Elisa could do the coordination... Both of them co-chair the Ontology WG there [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:52:28 <sandro> Elisa: Evan and I co-chair the ontology PSIG at OMG.
Elisa Kendall: Evan and I co-chair the ontology PSIG at OMG. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
17:52:58 <alanr_> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:53:07 <alanr_> ack vipul
Alan Ruttenberg: ack vipul ←
17:53:21 <vipul> Alan: Future meeting - Elisa and Evan could speak on similarities nd dependencies
Alan Ruttenberg: Future meeting - Elisa and Evan could speak on similarities nd dependencies [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:53:26 <alanr_> http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/bld/draft-2007-10-19.html
Alan Ruttenberg: http://www.w3.org/2005/rules/wg/bld/draft-2007-10-19.html ←
17:53:31 <sandro> Topic: RIF Review
17:53:39 <alanr_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-owl-wg/2007Oct/0066.html
Alan Ruttenberg: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-owl-wg/2007Oct/0066.html ←
17:53:48 <ivan> :-)
Ivan Herman: :-) ←
17:54:03 <alanr_> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:54:28 <pfps> +1
17:54:31 <ivan> +1
Ivan Herman: +1 ←
17:54:36 <pfps> zakim, unmute me
Peter Patel-Schneider: zakim, unmute me ←
17:54:36 <Zakim> pfps should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: pfps should no longer be muted ←
17:54:50 <sandro> Sandro: say +1 if you have read Peter's response....
Sandro Hawke: say +1 if you have read Peter's response.... [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
17:54:52 <Jeremy> (some hp eyeballs looked at some version, but I haven't)
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Unknown Jeremy: (some hp eyeballs looked at some version, but I haven't) ←
17:54:56 <Zakim> -bijan
Zakim IRC Bot: -bijan ←
17:55:08 <pfps> q+
17:55:27 <uli_> +1
Uli Sattler: +1 ←
17:55:30 <vipul> q+
Vipul Kashyap: q+ ←
17:55:36 <Zakim> +??P1
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P1 ←
17:55:41 <alanr_> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:55:47 <Jeremy> q+ to suggest a procedural approach ....
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Unknown Jeremy: q+ to suggest a procedural approach .... ←
17:55:56 <vipul> Sandro: Need some people to review...
Sandro Hawke: Need some people to review... [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:56:48 <vipul> Sandro: If it comes down to more substantive issues then it may make more sense to review them
Sandro Hawke: If it comes down to more substantive issues then it may make more sense to review them [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:56:53 <alanr_> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:56:55 <bijan> Sorry I've been out of contact
Bijan Parsia: Sorry I've been out of contact ←
17:56:56 <alanr_> qck pfps
Alan Ruttenberg: qck pfps ←
17:56:59 <bijan> And want to chime in
Bijan Parsia: And want to chime in ←
17:57:02 <alanr_> ack pfps
Alan Ruttenberg: ack pfps ←
17:57:09 <bijan> zakim, unmute me
Bijan Parsia: zakim, unmute me ←
17:57:09 <Zakim> sorry, bijan, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, bijan, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you ←
17:57:23 <alanr_> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:57:27 <alanr_> qck vipul
Alan Ruttenberg: qck vipul ←
17:57:31 <alanr_> ack vipul
Alan Ruttenberg: ack vipul ←
17:57:41 <uli_> which symbols do you mean, Vipul?
Uli Sattler: which symbols do you mean, Vipul? ←
17:57:55 <alanr_> ^^
Alan Ruttenberg: ^^ ←
17:57:57 <alanr_> ##
Alan Ruttenberg: ## ←
17:58:09 <alanr_> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:58:28 <alanr_> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:58:30 <bijan> q+
Bijan Parsia: q+ ←
17:58:42 <uli_> +1
Uli Sattler: +1 ←
17:58:48 <vipul> Sandro: Disagrees with the Peter Re: consideration from RIF
Sandro Hawke: Disagrees with the Peter Re: consideration from RIF [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:59:06 <sandro> s/Disagreed/doesn't really disagree/
Sandro Hawke: s/Disagreed/doesn't really disagree/ (warning: replacement failed) ←
17:59:06 <uli_> I was only slow in verifying that we were talking about the same email...
Uli Sattler: I was only slow in verifying that we were talking about the same email... ←
17:59:21 <alanr_> k
Alan Ruttenberg: k ←
17:59:53 <alanr_> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:59:56 <sandro> ack Jeremy
Sandro Hawke: ack Jeremy ←
17:59:56 <Zakim> Jeremy, you wanted to suggest a procedural approach ....
Zakim IRC Bot: Jeremy, you wanted to suggest a procedural approach .... ←
17:59:57 <vipul> Jeremy: If specific endorsement of Peter's technical comments is required, then communication should be sent to OWLWG
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Unknown Jeremy: If specific endorsement of Peter's technical comments is required, then communication should be sent to OWLWG [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
17:59:58 <alanr_> q+ alanr
Alan Ruttenberg: q+ alanr ←
18:00:34 <pfps> zakim, mute me
Peter Patel-Schneider: zakim, mute me ←
18:00:34 <Zakim> pfps should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: pfps should now be muted ←
18:00:35 <sandro> +1 Jeremy --- endorsing Peter in broad terms and put the onus on RIF to come back on specific points as necessary.
Sandro Hawke: +1 Jeremy --- endorsing Peter in broad terms and put the onus on RIF to come back on specific points as necessary. ←
18:00:56 <vipul> Alan: Gotta go...
Alan Ruttenberg: Gotta go... [ Scribe Assist by Vipul Kashyap ] ←
18:01:05 <alanr_> by vipul
Alan Ruttenberg: by vipul ←
18:01:06 <vipul> Can someone take over scribing?
Vipul Kashyap: Can someone take over scribing? ←
18:01:10 <alanr_> I will
Alan Ruttenberg: I will ←
18:01:13 <vipul> Thanks
Vipul Kashyap: Thanks ←
18:01:16 <Zakim> -Vipul_Kashyap
Zakim IRC Bot: -Vipul_Kashyap ←
18:01:36 <alanr_> Bijan: Bijan, as rep will review, then have phone call soon. RIF/OWL compat doc has been removed
Bijan Parsia: Bijan, as rep will review, then have phone call soon. RIF/OWL compat doc has been removed [ Scribe Assist by Alan Ruttenberg ] ←
18:01:44 <alanr_> sandro: moved to other document
Sandro Hawke: moved to other document [ Scribe Assist by Alan Ruttenberg ] ←
18:01:47 <alanr_> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
18:01:50 <alanr_> ack bijan
Alan Ruttenberg: ack bijan ←
18:01:56 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
18:02:07 <sandro> ack alanr_
Sandro Hawke: ack alanr_ ←
18:02:21 <bijan> +1
Bijan Parsia: +1 ←
18:02:30 <Jeremy> q+ to mention XML Schema comment
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Unknown Jeremy: q+ to mention XML Schema comment ←
18:03:10 <sandro> Alan: Based on Ivan and Uli having vetted Peter's review, I think we can make this officially from OWL WG.
Alan Ruttenberg: Based on Ivan and Uli having vetted Peter's review, I think we can make this officially from OWL WG. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
18:03:12 <alanr_> ack alanr
Alan Ruttenberg: ack alanr ←
18:03:20 <Jeremy> ack ivan
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Unknown Jeremy: ack ivan ←
18:03:23 <uli_> indeed, peter's document is a nice, understandable overview of RIF with a few polite questions
Uli Sattler: indeed, peter's document is a nice, understandable overview of RIF with a few polite questions ←
18:03:38 <alanr_> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
18:03:51 <uli_> oups - I meant "overview of BLD"
Uli Sattler: oups - I meant "overview of BLD" ←
18:04:29 <pfps> zakim, mute me
Peter Patel-Schneider: zakim, mute me ←
18:04:29 <Zakim> pfps was already muted, pfps
Zakim IRC Bot: pfps was already muted, pfps ←
18:04:33 <alanr_> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
18:04:38 <bijan> Noting that my modifications may be None
Bijan Parsia: Noting that my modifications may be None ←
18:04:41 <alanr_> ack jeremy
Alan Ruttenberg: ack jeremy ←
18:04:41 <Zakim> Jeremy, you wanted to mention XML Schema comment
Zakim IRC Bot: Jeremy, you wanted to mention XML Schema comment ←
18:04:51 <sandro> PROPOSED: Bijan check over Peter's review, and if he doesn't have any problem with it, he conveys it to RIF as a review from OWL WG
PROPOSED: Bijan check over Peter's review, and if he doesn't have any problem with it, he conveys it to RIF as a review from OWL WG ←
18:05:06 <Jeremy> (with minor mods_
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Unknown Jeremy: (with minor mods_ ←
18:05:30 <pfps> i like jeremy's addendum
Peter Patel-Schneider: i like jeremy's addendum ←
18:05:44 <alanr_> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
18:05:46 <sandro> PROPOSED: Bijan and Peter come to consensus on the 0066 review; if they suceed, they convey it to RIF as a review from the OWL WG
PROPOSED: Bijan and Peter come to consensus on the 0066 review; if they suceed, they convey it to RIF as a review from the OWL WG ←
18:05:49 <Jeremy> process tricks ....
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Scribe problem: the name 'Jeremy' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown Jeremy: process tricks .... ←
18:05:59 <ew> +1
Evan Wallace: +1 ←
18:06:03 <Jeremy> +1
Scribe problem: the name 'Jeremy' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'Jeremy' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown Jeremy: +1 ←
18:06:06 <bijan> +1
Bijan Parsia: +1 ←
18:06:07 <alanr_> +1
Alan Ruttenberg: +1 ←
18:06:07 <Rinke> +1
Rinke Hoekstra: +1 ←
18:06:08 <ivan> +1
Ivan Herman: +1 ←
18:06:08 <MartinD> +1
Martin Dzbor: +1 ←
18:06:10 <MikeSmith> +1
Michael Smith: +1 ←
18:06:11 <pfps> +1, of course
Peter Patel-Schneider: +1, of course ←
18:06:13 <zhe> +1
18:06:15 <Fabian> +1
Fabian Neuhaus: +1 ←
18:06:17 <Achille> +1
Achille Fokoue: +1 ←
18:06:24 <bmotik> +1
Boris Motik: +1 ←
18:06:24 <uli_> +1
Uli Sattler: +1 ←
18:06:29 <sandro> RESOLVED: Bijan check over Peter's review, and if he doesn't have any problem with it, he conveys it to RIF as a review from OWL WG
RESOLVED: Bijan check over Peter's review, and if he doesn't have any problem with it, he conveys it to RIF as a review from OWL WG ←
18:06:52 <Zakim> -Fabien
Zakim IRC Bot: -Fabien ←
18:06:52 <alanr_> :)
Alan Ruttenberg: :) ←
18:06:53 <Zakim> -Evan_Wallace
Zakim IRC Bot: -Evan_Wallace ←
18:07:02 <Zakim> -Jeremy
Scribe problem: the name 'Jeremy' does not match any of the 43 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Joanne Luciano Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Zakim IRC Bot: -Jeremy ←
18:07:06 <Zakim> -MartinD
Zakim IRC Bot: -MartinD ←
18:07:08 <sandro> RESOLVED: Bijan and Peter come to consensus on the 0066 review; if they suceed, they convey it to RIF as a review from the OWL WG
RESOLVED: Bijan and Peter come to consensus on the 0066 review; if they suceed, they convey it to RIF as a review from the OWL WG ←
18:07:08 <uli_> bye
Uli Sattler: bye ←
18:07:09 <Zakim> -Achille
Zakim IRC Bot: -Achille ←
18:07:11 <Zakim> -MikeSmith
Zakim IRC Bot: -MikeSmith ←
18:07:11 <Rinke> bye
Rinke Hoekstra: bye ←
18:07:16 <sandro> (first version of resolution was in error!)
Sandro Hawke: (first version of resolution was in error!) ←
18:07:31 <Zakim> -??P1
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P1 ←
18:07:49 <sandro> RRSAgent, make minutes
Sandro Hawke: RRSAgent, make minutes ←
18:07:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/10/31-owl-minutes.html sandro
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/10/31-owl-minutes.html sandro ←
18:07:58 <Zakim> -Rinke
Zakim IRC Bot: -Rinke ←
18:08:07 <Zakim> -uli
Zakim IRC Bot: -uli ←
18:08:14 <Zakim> -pfps
Zakim IRC Bot: -pfps ←
18:09:03 <Zakim> -DeborahMcGuinness
Zakim IRC Bot: -DeborahMcGuinness ←
18:11:22 <Zakim> - +1.408.774.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.408.774.aabb ←
18:11:31 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
18:11:31 <Zakim> On the phone I see Alan, Ivan, bmotik (muted), Sandro, Zhe_Wu, Ratnesh
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Alan, Ivan, bmotik (muted), Sandro, Zhe_Wu, Ratnesh ←
18:12:28 <bmotik> bye
Boris Motik: bye ←
18:12:34 <Zakim> -bmotik
Zakim IRC Bot: -bmotik ←
18:15:42 <Ratnesh> bye
Ratnesh Sahay: bye ←
18:15:57 <Zakim> -Ratnesh
Zakim IRC Bot: -Ratnesh ←
18:17:55 <Zakim> -Alan
Zakim IRC Bot: -Alan ←
18:17:59 <Zakim> -Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: -Ivan ←
18:18:00 <Zakim> -Zhe_Wu
Zakim IRC Bot: -Zhe_Wu ←
18:19:01 <Zakim> -Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro ←
18:19:02 <Zakim> SW_OWL()12:00PM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_OWL()12:00PM has ended ←
18:19:03 <Zakim> Attendees were JeremyCarroll, +1.617.253.aaaa, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik, MartinD, Sandro, Fabien, Zhe_Wu, Jeremy, pfps, bijan, Achille, MikeSmith,
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were JeremyCarroll, +1.617.253.aaaa, Alan, Vipul_Kashyap, Evan_Wallace, Rinke, Ivan, bmotik, MartinD, Sandro, Fabien, Zhe_Wu, Jeremy, pfps, bijan, Achille, MikeSmith, ←
18:19:05 <Zakim> ... uli, Ratnesh, +1.408.774.aabb, DeborahMcGuinness
Zakim IRC Bot: ... uli, Ratnesh, +1.408.774.aabb, DeborahMcGuinness ←
18:24:50 <IanH> q?
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Ian Horrocks: q? ←
18:26:10 <sandro> everyone's gone home, Ian. :-)
Sandro Hawke: everyone's gone home, Ian. :-) ←
18:59:56 <IanH> I guessed that, but thought I would check :-(
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Ian Horrocks: I guessed that, but thought I would check :-( ←
19:00:24 <IanH> I made the huge mistake of trying to drive to my hotel in athens and had a bit of an epic!
Ian Horrocks: I made the huge mistake of trying to drive to my hotel in athens and had a bit of an epic! ←
19:00:58 <IanH> I am now off to drink a beer and soothe my shattered nerves :-)
Ian Horrocks: I am now off to drink a beer and soothe my shattered nerves :-) ←
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