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14:00:21 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be LDP
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14:00:21 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_LDP()10:00AM scheduled to start now
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14:00:22 <trackbot> Meeting: Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference
14:00:22 <trackbot> Date: 17 March 2014
14:00:45 <SteveS> Zakim, who is here?
Steve Speicher: Zakim, who is here? ←
14:00:45 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has not yet started, SteveS
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14:00:47 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, SteveS, nmihindu, codyburleson, stevebattle17, TallTed, deiu, jmvanel, Arnaud1, bblfish, sandro, betehess, ericP, Yves, trackbot
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14:01:33 <SteveS> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Steve Speicher: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:01:34 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has not yet started, SteveS
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14:01:35 <Zakim> On IRC I see Ashok, Zakim, RRSAgent, SteveS, nmihindu, codyburleson, stevebattle17, TallTed, deiu, jmvanel, Arnaud1, bblfish, sandro, betehess, ericP, Yves, trackbot
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14:02:05 <Arnaud1> zakim, this is sw_ldp
Arnaud Le Hors: zakim, this is sw_ldp ←
14:02:06 <Zakim> Arnaud1, I see SW_LDP()10:00AM in the schedule but not yet started. Perhaps you mean "this will be sw_ldp".
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14:02:34 <TallTed> Zakim, who's here?
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, who's here? ←
14:02:35 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has not yet started, TallTed
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14:02:36 <Zakim> On IRC I see codyburleson1, JohnArwe, Ashok, Zakim, RRSAgent, SteveS, nmihindu, codyburleson, stevebattle17, TallTed, deiu, jmvanel, Arnaud, bblfish, sandro, betehess, ericP, Yves,
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14:02:36 <Zakim> ... trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: ... trackbot ←
14:02:39 <TallTed> Zakim, this is ldp
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, this is ldp ←
14:02:39 <Zakim> TallTed, I see SW_LDP()10:00AM in the schedule but not yet started. Perhaps you mean "this will be ldp".
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14:03:03 <TallTed> sysreq needs to be involved...
Ted Thibodeau: sysreq needs to be involved... ←
14:03:05 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me ←
14:03:05 <Zakim> sorry, TallTed, I don't know what conference this is
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, TallTed, I don't know what conference this is ←
14:06:28 <sandro> Hi
Sandro Hawke: Hi ←
14:06:29 <Arnaud> hi
Arnaud Le Hors: hi ←
14:06:30 <SteveS> Hi, on the phone
Steve Speicher: Hi, on the phone ←
14:06:32 <Ashok> Hi
Ashok Malhotra: Hi ←
14:06:32 <ericP> hi
Eric Prud'hommeaux: hi ←
14:06:38 <JohnArwe> phone+irc
14:06:48 <deiu> phone+irc too
Andrei Sambra: phone+irc too ←
14:06:49 <ericP> phone only
Eric Prud'hommeaux: phone only ←
14:06:58 <TallTed> dual hi
Ted Thibodeau: dual hi ←
14:06:58 <codyburleson1> phone+irc
Cody Burleson: phone+irc ←
14:08:30 <bblfish> hi
Henry Story: hi ←
14:08:57 <Ashok> scribenick: Ashok
(Scribe set to Ashok Malhotra)
<Ashok> chair: Arnaud
<Ashok> present: sandro, arnaud, steves, ericp, johnarwe, deiu, tallted, cody, bblfish, ashok
14:09:03 <TallTed> TallTed has changed the topic to: LDP WG: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp - next agenda: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2014.03.17 - fyi: Zakim is ill
Ted Thibodeau: TallTed has changed the topic to: LDP WG: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp - next agenda: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2014.03.17 - fyi: Zakim is ill ←
14:09:07 <Arnaud> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2014.03.17
14:09:18 <JohnArwe> regrets: steve battle
<Ashok> Topic: Admin
14:09:30 <Ashok> Approval of minutes of meeting March 10 http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2014-03-10
Approval of minutes of meeting March 10 http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2014-03-10 ←
14:09:55 <SteveS> looks good to me
Steve Speicher: looks good to me ←
14:10:00 <Ashok> No objection. Minutes approved
No objection. Minutes approved ←
14:10:01 <codyburleson1> I clicked on the link and scrolled real fast.
Cody Burleson: I clicked on the link and scrolled real fast. ←
14:10:16 <ericP> +1
Eric Prud'hommeaux: +1 ←
14:10:26 <sandro> regrets for next week
Sandro Hawke: regrets for next week ←
14:10:31 <Ashok> RESOLUTION: Minutes of March 10 meeting are approved http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2014-03-10
RESOLVED: Minutes of March 10 meeting are approved http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2014-03-10 ←
14:10:49 <Ashok> Next meeting is next Monday March 24
Next meeting is next Monday March 24 ←
14:10:59 <Ashok> Topic: Tracking of Actions and Issues
14:11:30 <Ashok> Eric: Progress on 206
Eric Prud'hommeaux: Progress on 209 ←
14:11:47 <JohnArwe> s/206/209/
14:13:01 <Ashok> Arnaud: First issue is about stable vs. lossy paging
Arnaud Le Hors: First issue is about stable vs. lossy paging ←
14:13:32 <Ashok> ... I suggest we open issue 94
... I suggest we open ISSUE-94 ←
14:14:21 <Arnaud> PROPOSED: open ISSUE-94 Stable vs lossy paging
PROPOSED: open ISSUE-94 Stable vs lossy paging ←
14:14:28 <JohnArwe> +1
14:14:32 <ericP> +1
Eric Prud'hommeaux: +1 ←
14:14:33 <sandro> +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 ←
14:14:35 <TallTed> +1
Ted Thibodeau: +1 ←
14:14:36 <codyburleson1> +1
Cody Burleson: +1 ←
14:14:37 <deiu> +1
Andrei Sambra: +1 ←
14:14:46 <sandro> SteveS: +1
Steve Speicher: +1 [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
14:14:55 <Ashok> RESOLVED: Open Issue-94 Stable vs lossy paging
RESOLVED: Open ISSUE-94 Stable vs lossy paging ←
14:15:03 <bblfish> Issue-94
14:15:03 <trackbot> Issue-94 -- Stable vs lossy paging -- raised
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-94 -- Stable vs lossy paging -- raised ←
14:15:03 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/94
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/94 ←
14:15:26 <Ashok> Arnaud: Propose we open ISSUE-95
Arnaud Le Hors: Propose we open ISSUE-95 ←
14:15:27 <Arnaud> PROPOSED: open ISSUE-95 Paging of LDPRs without ordering
PROPOSED: open ISSUE-95 Paging of LDPRs without ordering ←
14:16:24 <ericP> Arnaud: we could say that it's undefined and the client has to deal with whatever the server issues
Arnaud Le Hors: we could say that it's undefined and the client has to deal with whatever the server issues [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
14:16:40 <ericP> ... or we could remove it from the spec
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... or we could remove it from the spec ←
14:16:55 <Ashok> q+
q+ ←
14:17:08 <ericP> sandro: if we don't have ordering on LDPRs, should we permit paging?
Sandro Hawke: if we don't have ordering on LDPRs, should we permit paging? [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
14:17:14 <ericP> ... i think the answer is "yes"
Eric Prud'hommeaux: ... i think the answer is "yes" ←
14:17:22 <JohnArwe> +1 to sandro
14:17:23 <Arnaud> ack ashok
Arnaud Le Hors: ack ashok ←
14:18:08 <ericP> Ashok: if we have a large, unordered container, are we saying that you can't page it or is it a server-defined order
Ashok Malhotra: if we have a large, unordered container, are we saying that you can't page it or is it a server-defined order? [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
14:18:20 <ericP> s/server-defined order/server-defined order?/
14:19:15 <sandro> q?
Sandro Hawke: q? ←
14:19:19 <ericP> q+ say that lots of scenarios work fine with impl-defined ordering
Eric Prud'hommeaux: q+ say that lots of scenarios work fine with impl-defined ordering ←
14:19:20 <TallTed> easiest is to make it server-defined, server-tracked, client just has to cope
Ted Thibodeau: easiest is to make it server-defined, server-tracked, client just has to cope ←
14:19:20 <TallTed> hardest is to make it fully negotiable between client/server
Ted Thibodeau: hardest is to make it fully negotiable between client/server ←
14:19:38 <SteveS> +1 don't think we need this issue
Steve Speicher: +1 don't think we need this issue ←
14:19:38 <ericP> q+ to say that lots of scenarios work fine with impl-defined ordering
Eric Prud'hommeaux: q+ to say that lots of scenarios work fine with impl-defined ordering ←
14:20:15 <Arnaud> ack ericP
Arnaud Le Hors: ack ericP ←
14:20:15 <Zakim> ericP, you wanted to say that lots of scenarios work fine with impl-defined ordering
Zakim IRC Bot: ericP, you wanted to say that lots of scenarios work fine with impl-defined ordering ←
14:20:45 <Ashok> Sandro: Servers always have some ordering ... are we saying we cannot page in that situation
Sandro Hawke: Servers always have some ordering ... are we saying we cannot page in that situation ←
14:21:49 <Ashok> Arnaud; maybe we can close this?
Arnaud Le Hors: maybe we can close this? ←
14:21:55 <SteveS> q+
Steve Speicher: q+ ←
14:22:01 <Ashok> s/;/:/
14:22:09 <Arnaud> ack Steves
Arnaud Le Hors: ack Steves ←
14:23:11 <Ashok> Satve: Ordering is optional anyway ... so we should be able to page without ordering
Steve Speicher: Ordering is optional anyway ... so we should be able to page without ordering ←
14:23:26 <Ashok> s/Satve/Steve/
14:24:53 <Ashok> Sandro: We should be able to page LDPRs also ... what is difference between collections and RDF sources other than lifecycle
Sandro Hawke: We should be able to page LDPRs also ... what is difference between collections and RDF sources other than lifecycle ←
14:25:17 <sandro> PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-95 stating that even if we don't have standards for communication ordering to clients in every situation, paging still applies to all LDP RDF Sources.
PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-95 stating that even if we don't have standards for communication ordering to clients in every situation, paging still applies to all LDP RDF Sources. ←
14:25:37 <ericP> +1
Eric Prud'hommeaux: +1 ←
14:25:45 <sandro> +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 ←
14:25:47 <SteveS> +1
Steve Speicher: +1 ←
14:26:05 <sandro> (and possibly all RDF Sources --- we're not sure what that might mean right now....)
Sandro Hawke: (and possibly all RDF Sources --- we're not sure what that might mean right now....) ←
14:26:06 <TallTed> +1
Ted Thibodeau: +1 ←
14:26:07 <deiu> +1
Andrei Sambra: +1 ←
14:26:09 <Ashok> Sandro: Propose paging applies to all rdf sources even is we cannot communicate to client
Sandro Hawke: Propose paging applies to all rdf sources even if we cannot communicate to client ←
14:26:16 <bblfish> +0 don't have an implementation yet
Henry Story: +0 don't have an implementation yet ←
14:26:17 <JohnArwe> +1 (blushes)
14:26:18 <Ashok> s/is/if/
14:26:44 <codyburleson1> +0 I'm not so sure
Cody Burleson: +0 I'm not so sure ←
14:27:08 <deiu> paging is implemented in rww.io too btw
Andrei Sambra: paging is implemented in rww.io too btw ←
14:27:10 <Arnaud> RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-95 stating that even if we don't have standards for communication ordering to clients in every situation, paging still applies to all LDP RDF Sources
RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-95 stating that even if we don't have standards for communication ordering to clients in every situation, paging still applies to all LDP RDF Sources ←
14:27:22 <Ashok> Steves: Olievier had announced he had implemented paging as defined in spec
Steve Speicher: Olivier had announced he had implemented paging as defined in spec ←
14:27:58 <Ashok> s/Olievier/Olivier/
14:28:12 <SteveS> Olivier Berger's note on his support for paging http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp/2013Aug/0007.html
Steve Speicher: Olivier Berger's note on his support for paging http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp/2013Aug/0007.html ←
14:28:24 <Arnaud> PROPOSED: Open ISSUE-96 Can we define ordering for LDPRs?
PROPOSED: Open ISSUE-96 Can we define ordering for LDPRs? ←
14:29:05 <Ashok> Sandro: Argues we should open issue
Sandro Hawke: Argues we should open issue ←
14:29:16 <sandro> sandro: let's let ourselves come up with a couple decent ways to communicate ordering
Sandro Hawke: let's let ourselves come up with a couple decent ways to communicate ordering [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
14:29:17 <sandro> +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 ←
14:29:20 <codyburleson1> +1
Cody Burleson: +1 ←
14:29:20 <TallTed> +1
Ted Thibodeau: +1 ←
14:29:23 <deiu> +1
Andrei Sambra: +1 ←
14:29:25 <SteveS> +1
Steve Speicher: +1 ←
14:29:38 <Ashok> RESOLVED: Open ISSUE-96 Can we define ordering for LDPRs?
RESOLVED: Open ISSUE-96 Can we define ordering for LDPRs? ←
14:29:46 <SteveS> though I don't have a use case for it at the moment
Steve Speicher: though I don't have a use case for it at the moment ←
14:29:51 <deiu> q+
Andrei Sambra: q+ ←
14:30:04 <Arnaud> ack deiu
Arnaud Le Hors: ack deiu ←
14:30:39 <Ashok> Deiu: No way to filter on type of resource
Andrei Sambra: No way to filter on type of resource ←
14:31:19 <JohnArwe> didn't we put filtering on the wish list, consciously?
John Arwe: didn't we put filtering on the wish list, consciously? ←
14:31:26 <SteveS> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/LDPNext#Filtering_collections
Steve Speicher: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/LDPNext#Filtering_collections ←
14:31:30 <Ashok> Sandro: This is a different issue ... should we open?
Sandro Hawke: This is a different issue ... should we open? ←
14:33:07 <Ashok> Arnaud: We have no mechanism for client to control paging
Arnaud Le Hors: We have no mechanism for client to control paging ←
14:33:23 <Ashok> ... maybe put on wishlist
... maybe put on wishlist ←
14:34:12 <Ashok> Topic: Update on Publications
14:35:08 <Ashok> Arnaud: Spec was published on March 11 ... Last Call ends April 2
Arnaud Le Hors: Spec was published on March 11 ... Last Call ends April 2 ←
14:35:18 <Ashok> ... UCR was also published
... UCR was also published ←
14:37:51 <Ashok> Topic: Boston F2F
14:38:15 <Ashok> Arnaud: I have set up a page ... please indicate attendance
Arnaud Le Hors: I have set up a page ... please indicate attendance ←
14:39:08 <Ashok> Topic: LDP Paging Spec
14:39:26 <Ashok> Arnaud: Let's start with ISSUE-94
Arnaud Le Hors: Let's start with ISSUE-94 ←
14:39:52 <Ashok> Arnaud: Sandro you have proposal for this
Arnaud Le Hors: Sandro you have proposal for this ←
14:40:18 <Ashok> Sandro: I sent email with proposal
Sandro Hawke: I sent email with proposal ←
14:40:44 <Arnaud> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2014Feb/0058.html
Arnaud Le Hors: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2014Feb/0058.html ←
14:41:32 <sandro> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2014Feb/0064.html
Sandro Hawke: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2014Feb/0064.html ←
14:42:02 <SteveS> ericP I created ACTION-135 for fixing up docs hosted at namespace URI
Steve Speicher: ericP I created ACTION-135 for fixing up docs hosted at namespace URI ←
14:42:03 <sandro> that's my proposal, basically.
Sandro Hawke: that's my proposal, basically. ←
14:42:18 <ericP> SteveS, roger and thanks
Eric Prud'hommeaux: SteveS, roger and thanks ←
14:43:09 <Ashok> Sandro: discusses motivation and proposal
Sandro Hawke: discusses motivation and proposal ←
14:43:56 <Ashok> ... not so hard to implement
... not so hard to implement ←
14:44:42 <Ashok> .. lossless paging
.. lossless paging ←
14:47:12 <Ashok> Sandro: Some may want snapshot paging ... we don't need that under paging
Sandro Hawke: Some may want snapshot paging ... we don't need that under paging ←
14:48:05 <Ashok> Ted: Discusses database options for paging etc.
Ted Thibodeau: Discusses database options for paging etc. ←
14:48:40 <Ashok> ... client can specify option he wants
... client can specify option he wants ←
14:49:24 <TallTed> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolation_%28database_systems%29
Ted Thibodeau: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolation_%28database_systems%29 ←
14:49:34 <JohnArwe> which of the 4 links are required under this proposal?
John Arwe: which of the 4 links are required under this proposal? ←
14:49:57 <TallTed> "Read uncommitted" is basically what Sandro's talking about
Ted Thibodeau: "Read uncommitted" is basically what Sandro's talking about ←
14:50:24 <JohnArwe> q+ to ask which links are required
John Arwe: q+ to ask which links are required ←
14:50:42 <sandro> client MUST get every triple in intersect(g0, g1, ... gn) and MAY get any triples in the union (g0, g1, .. gn)
Sandro Hawke: client MUST get every triple in intersect(g0, g1, ... gn) and MAY get any triples in the union (g0, g1, .. gn) ←
14:50:56 <Arnaud> ack JohnArwe
Arnaud Le Hors: ack JohnArwe ←
14:50:56 <Zakim> JohnArwe, you wanted to ask which links are required
Zakim IRC Bot: JohnArwe, you wanted to ask which links are required ←
14:51:10 <Ashok> Ted: Please rend the article I quoted. Good coverage of the database options
Ted Thibodeau: Please rend the article I quoted. Good coverage of the database options ←
14:51:31 <Ashok> JohnArwe: Asks about which links are required
John Arwe: Asks about which links are required ←
14:52:35 <JohnArwe> Sandro: "if you do fwd paging, X; if you do bwd paging, Y"
Sandro Hawke: "if you do fwd paging, X; if you do bwd paging, Y" [ Scribe Assist by John Arwe ] ←
14:52:36 <Ashok> Sandro: We want to allow folks to do forward paging only or backward paging only
Sandro Hawke: We want to allow folks to do forward paging only or backward paging only ←
14:52:42 <TallTed> and... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cursor_%28databases%29
Ted Thibodeau: and... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cursor_%28databases%29 ←
14:53:04 <Ashok> Eric: I argued for singly linked list vs. doubly linked and we got pushback
Eric Prud'hommeaux: I argued for singly linked list vs. doubly linked and we got pushback ←
14:53:24 <TallTed> we're very much reinventing DBMS
Ted Thibodeau: we're very much reinventing DBMS ←
14:53:50 <Ashok> Yes, Ted, but don't have locking :-)
Yes, Ted, but don't have locking :-) ←
14:54:19 <bblfish> TallTed, we're improving DBMS is anything, since they are not RESTful or have URIs
Henry Story: TallTed, we're improving DBMS is anything, since they are not RESTful or have URIs ←
14:54:23 <TallTed> locking is a later implementation
Ted Thibodeau: locking is a later implementation ←
14:54:42 <Ashok> Discussion on which pointers are needed
Discussion on which pointers are needed ←
14:54:59 <Arnaud> STRAWPOLL: add Sandro's requirement that client MUST get every triple in intersect(g0, g1, ... gn) and MAY get any triples in the union (g0, g1, .. gn), where gx represents the graph at different times while the client is traversing the pages
STRAWPOLL: add Sandro's requirement that client MUST get every triple in intersect(g0, g1, ... gn) and MAY get any triples in the union (g0, g1, .. gn), where gx represents the graph at different times while the client is traversing the pages ←
14:55:14 <TallTed> DBMS are neither RESTful nor not. that's orthogonal.
Ted Thibodeau: DBMS are neither RESTful nor not. that's orthogonal. ←
14:55:14 <TallTed> URIs are "super-keys" -- universally usable, beyond table-bound DBMS keys
Ted Thibodeau: URIs are "super-keys" -- universally usable, beyond table-bound DBMS keys ←
14:55:32 <bblfish> they are not, so we're not re-inventing them
Henry Story: they are not, so we're not re-inventing them ←
14:55:44 <TallTed> if anything, this might be considered a next stage of DBMS -- but ignoring what exists and reinventing it is not effective use of time
Ted Thibodeau: if anything, this might be considered a next stage of DBMS -- but ignoring what exists and reinventing it is not effective use of time ←
14:55:46 <sandro> gx is the the state of the graph when the client does GET x
Sandro Hawke: gx is the the state of the graph when the client does GET x ←
14:55:56 <Ashok> +1
+1 ←
14:55:56 <ericP> +1
Eric Prud'hommeaux: +1 ←
14:55:58 <sandro> +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 ←
14:56:03 <TallTed> +1
Ted Thibodeau: +1 ←
14:56:15 <deiu> +0 (needs testing)
Andrei Sambra: +0 (needs testing) ←
14:56:21 <bblfish> +1
Henry Story: +1 ←
14:56:21 <SteveS> +.5
Steve Speicher: +.5 ←
14:56:22 <JohnArwe> +0.5 nothing jumping out as a problem, but Definitely requires more thought
John Arwe: +0.5 nothing jumping out as a problem, but Definitely requires more thought ←
14:56:46 <Ashok> Topic: 209
14:57:47 <Ashok> Eric: We are trying to get shortcut on 303/200 pattern we are trying to push TAG's position
Eric Prud'hommeaux: We are trying to get shortcut on 303/200 pattern we are trying to push TAG's position ←
14:58:23 <Ashok> ... MarkN is content to use Atom where paging info is in the payload
... MarkN is content to use Atom where paging info is in the payload ←
14:58:58 <Ashok> ... they think we are complicating HTTP for sake of simplifying our app.
... they think we are complicating HTTP for sake of simplifying our app. ←
14:59:54 <Ashok> ... or use SPDY ... which gives 303 and content of 303 ... if on save server
... or use SPDY ... which gives 303 and content of 303 ... if on same server ←
15:00:04 <bblfish> q+
Henry Story: q+ ←
15:00:04 <Ashok> s/save/same/
15:00:29 <Ashok> Eric: We need to agree that HTTP 2.0 will be deployed
Eric Prud'hommeaux: We need to agree that HTTP 2.0 will be deployed ←
15:01:18 <Ashok> ... we may have situations where we do not have origin
... we may have situations where we do not have origin ←
15:02:00 <Ashok> ... but client may not always enforce same-origin
... but client may not always enforce same-origin ←
15:02:45 <Arnaud> ack bblfish
Arnaud Le Hors: ack bblfish ←
15:03:12 <Ashok> Henry: SPDY is meant to be semantically equivalent
Henry Story: SPDY is meant to be semantically equivalent ←
15:04:05 <Ashok> ... I don't think SPDT give you what you asked for and a bunch of other info
... I don't think SPDY give you what you asked for and a bunch of other info ←
15:04:39 <Ashok> s/SPDT/SPDY/
15:05:13 <Ashok> EricP: Would appreciate help with usecases etc.
Eric Prud'hommeaux: Would appreciate help with usecases etc. ←
15:05:31 <bblfish> ericP: please send us pointers to those list
Eric Prud'hommeaux: please send us pointers to those list [ Scribe Assist by Henry Story ] ←
15:06:31 <Ashok> Arnaud: ADJOURNED
Arnaud Le Hors: ADJOURNED ←
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