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14:57:21 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/01/20-ldp-irc
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14:57:23 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
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14:57:25 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be LDP
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14:57:25 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_LDP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
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14:57:26 <trackbot> Meeting: Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference
14:57:26 <trackbot> Date: 20 January 2014
14:59:45 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has now started
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14:59:54 <Zakim> +Arnaud
Zakim IRC Bot: +Arnaud ←
15:02:07 <Zakim> +JohnArwe
Zakim IRC Bot: +JohnArwe ←
15:05:56 <Zakim> +W3C
Zakim IRC Bot: +W3C ←
15:06:10 <betehess> Zakim, W3C has Alexandre
Alexandre Bertails: Zakim, W3C has Alexandre ←
15:06:10 <Zakim> +Alexandre; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Alexandre; got it ←
15:07:06 <betehess> Zakim, who is here?
Alexandre Bertails: Zakim, who is here? ←
15:07:06 <Zakim> On the phone I see Arnaud, JohnArwe, W3C
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Arnaud, JohnArwe, W3C ←
15:07:08 <Zakim> W3C has Alexandre
Zakim IRC Bot: W3C has Alexandre ←
15:07:08 <Zakim> On IRC I see betehess, JohnArwe, Zakim, RRSAgent, jmvanel, stevebattle14, Arnaud, sandro, Yves, ericP, thschee, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see betehess, JohnArwe, Zakim, RRSAgent, jmvanel, stevebattle14, Arnaud, sandro, Yves, ericP, thschee, trackbot ←
15:10:18 <betehess> it's a holiday at MIT too
Alexandre Bertails: it's a holiday at MIT too ←
15:10:22 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
15:11:15 <Arnaud> zakim, IPcaller is roger
Arnaud Le Hors: zakim, IPcaller is roger ←
15:11:15 <Zakim> +roger; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +roger; got it ←
15:19:44 <betehess> Zakim, who is here?
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Alexandre Bertails: Zakim, who is here? ←
15:19:44 <Zakim> On the phone I see Arnaud, JohnArwe, W3C, roger
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Arnaud, JohnArwe, W3C, roger ←
15:19:45 <Zakim> W3C has Alexandre
Zakim IRC Bot: W3C has Alexandre ←
15:19:45 <Zakim> On IRC I see roger, betehess, JohnArwe, Zakim, RRSAgent, jmvanel, stevebattle14, Arnaud, sandro, Yves, ericP, thschee, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see roger, betehess, JohnArwe, Zakim, RRSAgent, jmvanel, stevebattle14, Arnaud, sandro, Yves, ericP, thschee, trackbot ←
15:28:02 <Zakim> +ericP
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Zakim IRC Bot: +ericP ←
15:30:14 <Zakim> -roger
Zakim IRC Bot: -roger ←
15:30:43 <JohnArwe> net: informal meeting, no quorum
Scribe problem: the name 'net' does not match any of the 59 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alexandre Bertails Andrei Sambra Andy Seaborne Antonis Loizou Armin Haller Arnaud Le Hors Arthur Keen Ashok Malhotra Asunción Gómez Pérez Bart van Leeuwen Christophe Gueret Cody Burleson David Snelling David Wood Endhe Elias Eric Prud'hommeaux Erik Mannens Erik Wilde Gavin Carothers George Percivall Gong Cheng Henry Story Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto J.B. Domingue Jean-Pierre EVAIN John Arwe Kalpa Gunaratna Kevin Page Kingsley Idehen Kow Weng Onn Lee Feigenbaum Lucas Panjer Michael Kerrin Miel Vander Sande Miguel Esteban Gutiérrez Mo McRoberts Nandana Mihindukulasooriya Olavo Holanda Pierre-Antoine Champin Raúl García Castro Reza B'Far Richard Cyganiak Roger Menday Ruben Verborgh Sandro Hawke Sebastian Trueg Seiji Isotani Serena Villata Sergio Fernández Steve Battle Steve Speicher Sumit Purohit Ted Thibodeau Vinh Nguyen Wen-Hsin Yang Yves Lafon Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown net: informal meeting, no quorum [ Scribe Assist by John Arwe ] ←
15:31:35 <roger> ahh, skype hung me out ... i wanted to ask John if the prefer header mechanism could be used for inlining issue (fully, partial, etc .. ) ?
Roger Menday: ahh, skype hung me out ... i wanted to ask John if the prefer header mechanism could be used for inlining issue (fully, partial, etc .. ) ? ←
15:32:52 <JohnArwe> roger: prefer is extensible, so yes it could be used. it would not align naturally with the proposed "omit" preference IMO, but anything pretty much can be bent at any use.
Roger Menday: prefer is extensible, so yes it could be used. it would not align naturally with the proposed "omit" preference IMO, but anything pretty much can be bent at any use. [ Scribe Assist by John Arwe ] ←
15:33:11 <Zakim> +Roger
Zakim IRC Bot: +Roger ←
15:36:12 <betehess> in a nutshell: Henry was conflating rel=type and rdf:type and then was explaining everything in the RDF world, while he meant "using the headers"
Alexandre Bertails: in a nutshell: Henry was conflating rel=type and rdf:type and then was explaining everything in the RDF world, while he meant "using the headers" ←
15:36:48 <JohnArwe> 4.2.10 LDP servers exposing LDPRs MUST advertise their LDP support by exposing a HTTP Link header with a target URI of http://www.w3.org/ns/ldp/Resource, and a link relation type of type (that is, rel='type') in all responses to requests made to the LDPR's HTTP Request-URI.
John Arwe: 4.2.10 LDP servers exposing LDPRs MUST advertise their LDP support by exposing a HTTP Link header with a target URI of http://www.w3.org/ns/ldp/Resource, and a link relation type of type (that is, rel='type') in all responses to requests made to the LDPR's HTTP Request-URI. ←
15:36:52 <betehess> the real question is which one is closer to what we want to do
Alexandre Bertails: the real question is which one is closer to what we want to do ←
15:37:16 <betehess> btw, isn't is http://www.w3.org/ns/ldp#Resource ?
Alexandre Bertails: btw, isn't is http://www.w3.org/ns/ldp#Resource ? ←
15:40:40 <betehess> I don't think Henry wants to use RDF to convey the interaction model
Alexandre Bertails: I don't think Henry wants to use RDF to convey the interaction model ←
15:42:32 <roger> according to http://roy.gbiv.com/untangled/2008/rest-apis-must-be-hypertext-driven, "A REST API should never have 'typed' resources that are significant to the client."
Roger Menday: according to http://roy.gbiv.com/untangled/2008/rest-apis-must-be-hypertext-driven, "A REST API should never have 'typed' resources that are significant to the client." ←
15:43:19 <betehess> rel=interaction
Alexandre Bertails: rel=interaction ←
15:45:18 <Arnaud> zakim, who's talking?
Arnaud Le Hors: zakim, who's talking? ←
15:45:29 <Zakim> Arnaud, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ericP (91%)
Zakim IRC Bot: Arnaud, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ericP (91%) ←
15:45:44 <betehess> apparently, ericP is the fan :-)
Alexandre Bertails: apparently, ericP is the fan :-) ←
15:46:09 <Zakim> +bblfish
Zakim IRC Bot: +bblfish ←
15:47:21 <ericP> nice!
Eric Prud'hommeaux: nice! ←
15:48:41 <betehess> Zakim, W3C also has Andrei
Alexandre Bertails: Zakim, W3C also has Andrei ←
15:48:41 <Zakim> +Andrei; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Andrei; got it ←
15:49:03 <bblfish> sorry for being late ( keep getting into conversations here, and loose track of time )
Henry Story: sorry for being late ( keep getting into conversations here, and loose track of time ) ←
15:50:03 <JohnArwe> too few people called in henry, so this is an informal call today
John Arwe: too few people called in henry, so this is an informal call today ←
15:50:11 <bblfish> ah. ok
Henry Story: ah. ok ←
15:50:14 <bblfish> q+
Henry Story: q+ ←
15:50:38 <JohnArwe> we spent a bit of time on the Prefer proposal questions, now we're flogging rel=type as you can no doubt tell
John Arwe: we spent a bit of time on the Prefer proposal questions, now we're flogging rel=type as you can no doubt tell ←
15:50:48 <betehess> maybe ericP is thinking about validation :-)
Alexandre Bertails: maybe ericP is thinking about validation :-) ←
15:50:55 <bblfish> ah yes, I have to read the Prefer proposal
Henry Story: ah yes, I have to read the Prefer proposal ←
15:51:04 <JohnArwe> if you have any questions on the Prefer proposal feel free to drop them in IRC and I can take a pass at them.
John Arwe: if you have any questions on the Prefer proposal feel free to drop them in IRC and I can take a pass at them. ←
15:51:26 <Arnaud> zakim, who's on the phone?
Arnaud Le Hors: zakim, who's on the phone? ←
15:51:26 <Zakim> On the phone I see Arnaud, JohnArwe, W3C, ericP, Roger, bblfish
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Arnaud, JohnArwe, W3C, ericP, Roger, bblfish ←
15:51:27 <Zakim> W3C has Alexandre, Andrei
Zakim IRC Bot: W3C has Alexandre, Andrei ←
15:51:32 <bblfish> I did not have time to read that JohnArwe, skimmed it quickly
Henry Story: I did not have time to read that JohnArwe, skimmed it quickly ←
15:52:24 <JohnArwe> (roger had same situation on Prefer).
John Arwe: (roger had same situation on Prefer). ←
15:52:38 <bblfish> cool
Henry Story: cool ←
15:53:00 <betehess> Andrei was telling me locally: we could also have our own new header (instead of Link header)
Alexandre Bertails: Andrei was telling me locally: we could also have our own new header (instead of Link header) ←
15:53:19 <bblfish> q+
Henry Story: q+ ←
15:54:16 <betehess> other proposal: Interaction: ldp:Container
Alexandre Bertails: other proposal: Interaction: ldp:Container ←
15:54:36 <bblfish> yes, I see, a Link of type=interaction
Henry Story: yes, I see, a Link of type=interaction ←
15:54:38 <betehess> much smaller than the Link header version
Alexandre Bertails: much smaller than the Link header version ←
15:55:58 <Arnaud> ack bblfish
Arnaud Le Hors: ack bblfish ←
15:56:21 <ericP> link: rel=interaction val=ldp:RWLinkedDataContainer
Scribe problem: the name 'link' does not match any of the 59 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alexandre Bertails Andrei Sambra Andy Seaborne Antonis Loizou Armin Haller Arnaud Le Hors Arthur Keen Ashok Malhotra Asunción Gómez Pérez Bart van Leeuwen Christophe Gueret Cody Burleson David Snelling David Wood Endhe Elias Eric Prud'hommeaux Erik Mannens Erik Wilde Gavin Carothers George Percivall Gong Cheng Henry Story Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto J.B. Domingue Jean-Pierre EVAIN John Arwe Kalpa Gunaratna Kevin Page Kingsley Idehen Kow Weng Onn Lee Feigenbaum Lucas Panjer Michael Kerrin Miel Vander Sande Miguel Esteban Gutiérrez Mo McRoberts Nandana Mihindukulasooriya Olavo Holanda Pierre-Antoine Champin Raúl García Castro Reza B'Far Richard Cyganiak Roger Menday Ruben Verborgh Sandro Hawke Sebastian Trueg Seiji Isotani Serena Villata Sergio Fernández Steve Battle Steve Speicher Sumit Purohit Ted Thibodeau Vinh Nguyen Wen-Hsin Yang Yves Lafon Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown link: rel=interaction val=ldp:RWLinkedDataContainer [ Scribe Assist by Eric Prud'hommeaux ] ←
15:57:44 <betehess> anyway, as Erik Wilde said: [[ what matters more is that the semantics of the hypermedia control in the context of the media type are well-defined ]], so all those solutions are pretty much the same :-)
Alexandre Bertails: anyway, as Erik Wilde said: [[ what matters more is that the semantics of the hypermedia control in the context of the media type are well-defined ]], so all those solutions are pretty much the same :-) ←
15:59:06 <betehess> Arnaud, I don't think anybody is saying that we look into the rdf type
Alexandre Bertails: Arnaud, I don't think anybody is saying that we look into the rdf type ←
15:59:39 <betehess> +1 ericP
Alexandre Bertails: +1 ericP ←
16:04:40 <betehess> the real question for henry is: knowing that rel=type != rdf:type, why keep rel=type and not defining rel=interaction?
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Alexandre Bertails: the real question for henry is: knowing that rel=type != rdf:type, why keep rel=type and not defining rel=interaction? ←
16:05:40 <betehess> I think lying is good sometimes :-)
Alexandre Bertails: I think lying is good sometimes :-) ←
16:08:45 <ericP> yeah, but i don't want to say that no one else can reuse the structure of ldp:Container
Eric Prud'hommeaux: yeah, but i don't want to say that no one else can reuse the structure of ldp:Container ←
16:09:10 <betehess> I don't think you guys disagree...
Alexandre Bertails: I don't think you guys disagree... ←
16:09:34 <JohnArwe> wrt: "Andrei was telling me locally: we could also have our own new header (instead of Link header)"... sure you Could. Would that convey something different than what a Link header (with an extension link relation that we define) convey something different? If not, "why invent new instead of re-use?" If so, what is conveyed that's different?
Scribe problem: the name 'wrt' does not match any of the 59 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alexandre Bertails Andrei Sambra Andy Seaborne Antonis Loizou Armin Haller Arnaud Le Hors Arthur Keen Ashok Malhotra Asunción Gómez Pérez Bart van Leeuwen Christophe Gueret Cody Burleson David Snelling David Wood Endhe Elias Eric Prud'hommeaux Erik Mannens Erik Wilde Gavin Carothers George Percivall Gong Cheng Henry Story Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto J.B. Domingue Jean-Pierre EVAIN John Arwe Kalpa Gunaratna Kevin Page Kingsley Idehen Kow Weng Onn Lee Feigenbaum Lucas Panjer Michael Kerrin Miel Vander Sande Miguel Esteban Gutiérrez Mo McRoberts Nandana Mihindukulasooriya Olavo Holanda Pierre-Antoine Champin Raúl García Castro Reza B'Far Richard Cyganiak Roger Menday Ruben Verborgh Sandro Hawke Sebastian Trueg Seiji Isotani Serena Villata Sergio Fernández Steve Battle Steve Speicher Sumit Purohit Ted Thibodeau Vinh Nguyen Wen-Hsin Yang Yves Lafon Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown wrt: "Andrei was telling me locally: we could also have our own new header (instead of Link header)"... sure you Could. Would that convey something different than what a Link header (with an extension link relation that we define) convey something different? If not, "why invent new instead of re-use?" If so, what is conveyed that's different? [ Scribe Assist by John Arwe ] ←
16:12:19 <bblfish> [] a ldp:Container;
Henry Story: [] a ldp:Container; ←
16:12:19 <bblfish> from « 2013 »;
Henry Story: from « 2013 »; ←
16:12:19 <bblfish> to 2013;
Henry Story: to 2013; ←
16:12:21 <bblfish> was « http://xmlns.com/«
Henry Story: was « http://xmlns.com/« ←
16:13:13 <betehess> JohnArwe, that would be equivalent, but 1. using Web Linking means that the interaction is coming from a special type (relation) between the resource and the URI ldp:Container 2. people won't have to look at the URI, just the header 3. it's shorter
Alexandre Bertails: JohnArwe, that would be equivalent, but 1. using Web Linking means that the interaction is coming from a special type (relation) between the resource and the URI ldp:Container 2. people won't have to look at the URI, just the header 3. it's shorter ←
16:13:37 <betehess> otherwise, yes, very much the same :-)
Alexandre Bertails: otherwise, yes, very much the same :-) ←
16:14:44 <JohnArwe> @betehess: OK - so "just" new syntax alternative.
John Arwe: @betehess: OK - so "just" new syntax alternative. ←
16:15:02 <betehess> also, what's easier: registering a new relation at IETF or defining the header *in* LDP?
Alexandre Bertails: also, what's easier: registering a new relation at IETF or defining the header *in* LDP? ←
16:15:20 <betehess> much more control with the later
Alexandre Bertails: much more control with the later ←
16:15:55 <JohnArwe> @betehess: no, no difference if we define an extension header.
John Arwe: @betehess: no, no difference if we define an extension header. ←
16:16:06 <betehess> ok
Alexandre Bertails: ok ←
16:17:53 <JohnArwe> @betehess: It *might* even be that defining a new shortname link relation is no more overhead than a new http header, it's just been a while since I looked down that path in 5988
John Arwe: @betehess: It *might* even be that defining a new shortname link relation is no more overhead than a new http header, it's just been a while since I looked down that path in 5988 ←
16:18:27 <betehess> oh right, that's an interesting use-case: Interaction: ldp#Container; rww#specialBehaviorCompatibleWithLDPC; myApplication#myShape
Alexandre Bertails: oh right, that's an interesting use-case: Interaction: ldp#Container; rww#specialBehaviorCompatibleWithLDPC; myApplication#myShape ←
16:19:01 <JohnArwe> I do suspect that a new HTTP header would receive more scrutiny, but I could be wrong.
John Arwe: I do suspect that a new HTTP header would receive more scrutiny, but I could be wrong. ←
16:19:09 <betehess> you tell me :-)
Alexandre Bertails: you tell me :-) ←
16:21:44 <JohnArwe> IETF has been consciously Reducing the barriers to various extension registrations, that's my understanding, based partly on what happens when they ARE successful. They recently deprecated the use of X- prefixes as "reserved for future extensions" in many if not most contexts.
John Arwe: IETF has been consciously Reducing the barriers to various extension registrations, that's my understanding, based partly on what happens when they ARE successful. They recently deprecated the use of X- prefixes as "reserved for future extensions" in many if not most contexts. ←
16:23:40 <betehess> so s/ldp#Container/LDPC/ for example?
Alexandre Bertails: so s/ldp#Container/LDPC/ for example? ←
16:24:29 <betehess> yay, rel=profile!
Alexandre Bertails: yay, rel=profile! ←
16:27:04 <betehess> the quote is [[ what matters more is that the semantics of the
Alexandre Bertails: the quote is [[ what matters more is that the semantics of the ←
16:27:04 <betehess> hypermedia control in the context of the media type are well-defined. to
Alexandre Bertails: hypermedia control in the context of the media type are well-defined. to ←
16:27:04 <betehess> maybe take a little bit of passion out of the debate: as long as there is agreement *which* links to specify and *what* they should mean for LDP clients, the hard problems are solved. *how* to identify them is not such a central issue ]]
Alexandre Bertails: maybe take a little bit of passion out of the debate: as long as there is agreement *which* links to specify and *what* they should mean for LDP clients, the hard problems are solved. *how* to identify them is not such a central issue ]] ←
16:32:20 <Zakim> -JohnArwe
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16:32:33 <JohnArwe> seeing I'm late to 1130 mtg
John Arwe: seeing I'm late to 1130 mtg ←
16:39:11 <betehess> ACTION: betehess to work on a PROPOSAL re: rel=type vs other solutions (involves speaking w/ ericP, bblfish)
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ACTION: betehess to work on a PROPOSAL re: rel=type vs other solutions (involves speaking w/ ericP, bblfish) ←
16:39:11 <trackbot> Created ACTION-128 - Work on a proposal re: rel=type vs other solutions (involves speaking w/ ericp, bblfish) [on Alexandre Bertails - due 2014-01-27].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-128 - Work on a proposal re: rel=type vs other solutions (involves speaking w/ ericp, bblfish) [on Alexandre Bertails - due 2014-01-27]. ←
16:41:53 <Zakim> -ericP
Zakim IRC Bot: -ericP ←
16:41:54 <Zakim> -bblfish
Zakim IRC Bot: -bblfish ←
16:41:54 <Zakim> -Roger
Zakim IRC Bot: -Roger ←
16:41:54 <Zakim> -W3C
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Zakim IRC Bot: -W3C ←
16:41:56 <Zakim> -Arnaud
Zakim IRC Bot: -Arnaud ←
16:41:58 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_LDP()10:00AM has ended ←
16:41:58 <Zakim> Attendees were Arnaud, JohnArwe, Alexandre, roger, ericP, bblfish, Andrei
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Arnaud, JohnArwe, Alexandre, roger, ericP, bblfish, Andrei ←
16:49:06 <Arnaud> trackbot, end meeting
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Arnaud Le Hors: trackbot, end meeting ←
16:49:06 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, list attendees ←
16:49:06 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is ←
16:49:14 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, please draft minutes ←
16:49:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/20-ldp-minutes.html trackbot
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/20-ldp-minutes.html trackbot ←
16:49:15 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, bye ←
16:49:15 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2014/01/20-ldp-actions.rdf :
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2014/01/20-ldp-actions.rdf : ←
16:49:15 <RRSAgent> ACTION: betehess to work on a PROPOSAL re: rel=type vs other solutions (involves speaking w/ ericP, bblfish) [1]
ACTION: betehess to work on a PROPOSAL re: rel=type vs other solutions (involves speaking w/ ericP, bblfish) [1] ←
16:49:15 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/01/20-ldp-irc#T16-39-11
RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/01/20-ldp-irc#T16-39-11 ←
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