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Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 18 March 2013

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Andy Seaborne, Arnaud Le Hors, Cody Burleson, Eric Prud'hommeaux, John Arwe, Pierre-Antoine Champin, Steve Speicher, Ted Thibodeau
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13:55:36 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/03/18-ldp-irc

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13:55:38 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public

Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs public

13:55:40 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be LDP

Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be LDP

13:55:40 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_LDP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see SW_LDP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes

13:55:41 <trackbot> Meeting: Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference
13:55:41 <trackbot> Date: 18 March 2013
13:55:48 <AndyS> zakim, code?

Andy Seaborne: zakim, code?

13:55:48 <Zakim> the conference code is 53794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), AndyS

Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 53794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), AndyS

13:57:20 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has now started

Zakim IRC Bot: SW_LDP()10:00AM has now started

13:57:26 <Zakim> + +1.214.537.aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.214.537.aaaa

13:59:07 <cody> zakim +1.214.537.aaaa is cody

Cody Burleson: zakim +1.214.537.aaaa is cody

13:59:37 <cody> Zakim, +1.214.537.aaaa is cody

Cody Burleson: Zakim, +1.214.537.aaaa is cody

13:59:37 <Zakim> +cody; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +cody; got it

13:59:55 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

14:00:01 <AndyS> zakim, IPcaller is me

Andy Seaborne: zakim, IPcaller is me

14:00:01 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +AndyS; got it

14:00:45 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software

Zakim IRC Bot: +OpenLink_Software

14:01:16 <Arnaud1> trackbot, start meeting

Arnaud Le Hors: trackbot, start meeting

14:01:18 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public

Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs public

14:01:20 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be LDP

Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be LDP

14:01:20 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see SW_LDP()10:00AM already started

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot, I see SW_LDP()10:00AM already started

14:01:21 <trackbot> Meeting: Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference
14:01:21 <trackbot> Date: 18 March 2013
14:01:39 <Zakim> +Arnaud

Zakim IRC Bot: +Arnaud

14:03:08 <Zakim> +[IBM]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IBM]

14:03:17 <SteveS> zakim, [IBM] is me

Steve Speicher: zakim, [IBM] is me

14:03:18 <Zakim> +SteveS; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +SteveS; got it

14:04:32 <SteveS> Zakim, who is here?

Steve Speicher: Zakim, who is here?

14:04:32 <Zakim> On the phone I see cody, AndyS, TallTed (muted), Arnaud, SteveS

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see cody, AndyS, TallTed (muted), Arnaud, SteveS

14:04:34 <Zakim> On IRC I see SteveS, Arnaud, Zakim, RRSAgent, cody, AndyS, jmv, TallTed, betehess, davidwood, oberger, gavinc, thschee, sandro, ericP, Yves, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see SteveS, Arnaud, Zakim, RRSAgent, cody, AndyS, jmv, TallTed, betehess, davidwood, oberger, gavinc, thschee, sandro, ericP, Yves, trackbot

14:06:41 <AndyS> Meeting not formally scribed.

Andy Seaborne: Meeting not formally scribed.

14:07:09 <cody> <-- on mute

Cody Burleson: <-- on mute

14:07:53 <SteveS> FYI, I have made a few changes to editor's draft…see https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/raw-file/default/ldp.html#history

Steve Speicher: FYI, I have made a few changes to editor's draft…see https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/raw-file/default/ldp.html#history

14:09:29 <SteveS> Here is a reference to writeup Richard did to help him understand it, with a focus towards those with an RDF bg http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/User:Rcygania2/Richard%27s_LDP_101

Steve Speicher: Here is a reference to writeup Richard did to help him understand it, with a focus towards those with an RDF bg http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/User:Rcygania2/Richard%27s_LDP_101

14:13:51 <Zakim> +JohnArwe

Zakim IRC Bot: +JohnArwe

14:15:12 <Zakim> +??P24

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P24

14:15:45 <Zakim> +[GVoice]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[GVoice]

14:15:52 <ericP> Zakim, [GVoice] is me

Eric Prud'hommeaux: Zakim, [GVoice] is me

14:15:52 <Zakim> +ericP; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +ericP; got it

14:18:55 <AndyS> zakim, who is on the phone?

Andy Seaborne: zakim, who is on the phone?

14:18:55 <Zakim> On the phone I see cody, AndyS, TallTed (muted), Arnaud, SteveS, JohnArwe, ??P24, ericP

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see cody, AndyS, TallTed (muted), Arnaud, SteveS, JohnArwe, ??P24, ericP

14:24:38 <ericP> the requirement that one be able ot set the initial state and interrogate the final state was beyond what people wanted to expect from servers

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Eric Prud'hommeaux: the requirement that one be able ot set the initial state and interrogate the final state was beyond what people wanted to expect from servers

14:25:34 <ericP> (works for servers based on generic triple stores)

Eric Prud'hommeaux: (works for servers based on generic triple stores)

14:28:33 <ericP> plan was ultimately to have a generic tests like POST-a-new-resource, get-POSTED-resource, patch-resources where a servers can (so anthropomorphized) effectively write their own tests and report the TCP traffic with the EARL report

Eric Prud'hommeaux: plan was ultimately to have a generic tests like POST-a-new-resource, get-POSTED-resource, patch-resources where a servers can (so anthropomorphized) effectively write their own tests and report the TCP traffic with the EARL report

14:30:04 <ericP> the tests can be stuck in HTML (so long as it doesn't include binary data) with fixed anchor names on <pre/>s

Eric Prud'hommeaux: the tests can be stuck in HTML (so long as it doesn't include binary data) with fixed anchor names on <pre/>s

14:31:30 <ericP> we can provide some generic tests (e.g. copied from the test suite i created) which will test generic servers and serve as a template for those writing their own tests.

Eric Prud'hommeaux: we can provide some generic tests (e.g. copied from the test suite i created) which will test generic servers and serve as a template for those writing their own tests.

14:31:32 <Zakim> +??P26

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P26

14:31:36 <cody> Richard's text: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/User:Rcygania2/Richard%27s_LDP_101

Cody Burleson: Richard's text: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/User:Rcygania2/Richard%27s_LDP_101

14:31:37 <ericP> .

Eric Prud'hommeaux: .

14:31:39 <pchampin> zakim, ??P26 is me

Pierre-Antoine Champin: zakim, ??P26 is me

14:31:39 <Zakim> +pchampin; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +pchampin; got it

14:35:26 <SteveS> ericP, instead of fixed anchor names why wouldn't you annotate with RDFa?

Steve Speicher: ericP, instead of fixed anchor names why wouldn't you annotate with RDFa?

14:39:12 <pchampin> exactly: not preventing it is ok by me

Scribe problem: the name 'exactly' does not match any of the 55 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alexandre Bertails Andrei Sambra András Micsik Andy Seaborne Antonis Loizou Armin Haller Arnaud Le Hors Arthur Keen Ashok Malhotra Asunción Gómez Pérez Bart van Leeuwen Christophe Gueret Cody Burleson David Snelling David Wood Eric Prud'hommeaux Erik Wilde Gavin Carothers George Percivall Gong Cheng Henry Story J.B. Domingue Jacek Kopecky Jean-Pierre EVAIN John Arwe Kalpa Gunaratna Kevin Page Kingsley Idehen Kow Weng Onn Lee Feigenbaum Lucas Panjer Michael Kerrin Miguel Esteban Gutiérrez Mo McRoberts Nandana Mihindukulasooriya Olivier Berger Pierre-Antoine Champin Raj Singh Raúl García Castro Reza B'Far Richard Cyganiak Roger Menday Ruben Verborgh Sandro Hawke Sebastian Trueg Serena Villata Sergio Fernández Steve Battle Steve Speicher Ted Thibodeau Wen-Hsin Yang Yves Lafon Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown exactly: not preventing it is ok by me [ Scribe Assist by Pierre-Antoine Champin ]

14:40:42 <TallTed> Zakim, who's noisy?

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, who's noisy?

14:40:52 <TallTed> Zakim, who's here?

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, who's here?

14:40:52 <Zakim> On the phone I see cody, AndyS, TallTed (muted), Arnaud, SteveS, JohnArwe, ??P24, ericP, pchampin

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see cody, AndyS, TallTed (muted), Arnaud, SteveS, JohnArwe, ??P24, ericP, pchampin

14:40:54 <Zakim> On IRC I see pchampin, JohnArwe, SteveS, Arnaud, Zakim, RRSAgent, cody, AndyS, jmv, TallTed, betehess, davidwood, oberger, gavinc, thschee, sandro, ericP, Yves, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see pchampin, JohnArwe, SteveS, Arnaud, Zakim, RRSAgent, cody, AndyS, jmv, TallTed, betehess, davidwood, oberger, gavinc, thschee, sandro, ericP, Yves, trackbot

14:40:54 <Zakim> TallTed, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: AndyS (9%), Arnaud (9%), ??P24 (4%), ericP (53%)

Zakim IRC Bot: TallTed, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: AndyS (9%), Arnaud (9%), ??P24 (4%), ericP (53%)

14:49:07 <ericP> q+ to ask if we then want to track comments now

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Eric Prud'hommeaux: q+ to ask if we then want to track comments now

14:51:12 <ericP> ack me

Eric Prud'hommeaux: ack me

14:51:12 <Zakim> ericP, you wanted to ask if we then want to track comments now

Zakim IRC Bot: ericP, you wanted to ask if we then want to track comments now

14:53:44 <cody> I could do something, but at the moment, I have blocked myself out of the working group email; will try to resolve this week.

Cody Burleson: I could do something, but at the moment, I have blocked myself out of the working group email; will try to resolve this week.

14:55:45 <Zakim> -JohnArwe

Zakim IRC Bot: -JohnArwe

14:55:47 <Zakim> -SteveS

Zakim IRC Bot: -SteveS

14:55:49 <Zakim> -cody

Zakim IRC Bot: -cody

14:55:50 <Zakim> -ericP

Zakim IRC Bot: -ericP

14:55:50 <Zakim> -Arnaud

Zakim IRC Bot: -Arnaud

14:55:51 <Zakim> -pchampin

Zakim IRC Bot: -pchampin

14:55:51 <Zakim> -TallTed

Zakim IRC Bot: -TallTed

14:55:55 <Zakim> -??P24

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P24

14:56:00 <Zakim> -AndyS

Zakim IRC Bot: -AndyS

14:56:01 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: SW_LDP()10:00AM has ended

14:56:01 <Zakim> Attendees were cody, AndyS, TallTed, Arnaud, SteveS, JohnArwe, ericP, pchampin

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were cody, AndyS, TallTed, Arnaud, SteveS, JohnArwe, ericP, pchampin

15:02:51 <TallTed> TallTed has changed the topic to: Linked Data Platform WG -- http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/ -- next call, 2013-03-25 10am ET

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Ted Thibodeau: TallTed has changed the topic to: Linked Data Platform WG -- http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/ -- next call, 2013-03-25 10am ET

16:55:32 <AndyS> trackbot, end meeting

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Andy Seaborne: trackbot, end meeting

16:55:32 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees

Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, list attendees

16:55:40 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes

Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, please draft minutes

16:55:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/03/18-ldp-minutes.html trackbot

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/03/18-ldp-minutes.html trackbot

16:55:41 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye

Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, bye

16:55:41 <RRSAgent> I see no action items

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see no action items



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