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Minutes of 07 March 2008

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14:52:38 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined &egov

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14:52:38 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/03/07-egov-irc

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14:52:53 <josema> Zakim, this will be egov

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Unknown josema: Zakim, this will be egov

14:52:53 <Zakim> ok, josema; I see T&S_(EGOV)10:00AM scheduled to start in 8 minutes

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, josema; I see T&S_(EGOV)10:00AM scheduled to start in 8 minutes

14:56:53 <josema> agenda?

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Unknown josema: agenda?

14:58:47 <josema> agenda+ speaking points

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Unknown josema: agenda+ speaking points

14:59:00 <josema> agenda+ recruiting

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Unknown josema: agenda+ recruiting

14:59:08 <josema> agenda+ events and outreach

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Unknown josema: agenda+ events and outreach

14:59:10 <josema> agenda?

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Unknown josema: agenda?

15:01:17 <josema> zakim, call josema-office

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Unknown josema: zakim, call josema-office

15:01:17 <Zakim> ok, josema; the call is being made

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, josema; the call is being made

15:01:18 <Zakim> T&S_(EGOV)10:00AM has now started

Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_(EGOV)10:00AM has now started

15:01:19 <Zakim> +Josema

Zakim IRC Bot: +Josema

15:02:16 <marie> zakim, dial mcf-617

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Unknown marie: zakim, dial mcf-617

15:02:16 <Zakim> ok, marie; the call is being made

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, marie; the call is being made

15:02:17 <Zakim> +Mcf

Zakim IRC Bot: +Mcf

15:02:49 <marie> zakim, code

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Unknown marie: zakim, code

15:02:49 <Zakim> I don't understand 'code', marie

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'code', marie

15:03:01 <josema> code?

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Unknown josema: code?

15:03:02 <marie> zakim, code?

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Unknown marie: zakim, code?

15:03:02 <Zakim> the conference code is 3468 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), marie

Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 3468 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), marie

15:04:17 <Zakim> +Karen

Zakim IRC Bot: +Karen

15:04:30 <josema> agenda?

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Unknown josema: agenda?

15:05:24 <marie> q+

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Unknown marie: q+

15:05:33 <josema> ack ma

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Unknown josema: ack ma

15:06:36 <Karen> Karen has joined &egov

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Unknown Karen: Karen has joined &egov

15:06:48 <Karen> Marie: thought you worked with Karen on talking points

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Unknown Marie: thought you worked with Karen on talking points [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Karen ]

15:06:55 <Karen> JoseMa: not really

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Unknown JoseMa: not really [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Karen ]

15:06:58 <Karen> http://www.w3.org/2008/02/eGov/speaking-points

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Unknown Karen: http://www.w3.org/2008/02/eGov/speaking-points

15:08:43 <Karen> Josema: We could actually start three WGs

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Unknown Josema: We could actually start three WGs [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Karen ]

15:08:53 <Karen> ...governments need all this work

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Unknown Karen: ...governments need all this work

15:09:01 <Karen> ...difficult to get them to commit

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Unknown Karen: ...difficult to get them to commit

15:09:09 <Karen> ...they push back on high workloads

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Unknown Karen: ...they push back on high workloads

15:09:12 <Karen> ...don't have time

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Unknown Karen: ...don't have time

15:09:29 <Karen> ...industry says that the governments have to drive the effort

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Unknown Karen: ...industry says that the governments have to drive the effort

15:09:47 <Karen> ...spent first 10-11 months talking to governments

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Unknown Karen: ...spent first 10-11 months talking to governments

15:10:13 <Karen> ...Spoke with Ralph, Daniel about challenges

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Unknown Karen: ...Spoke with Ralph, Daniel about challenges

15:10:21 <Karen> ...suggested an Interest Group

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Unknown Karen: ...suggested an Interest Group

15:10:35 <Karen> ...then try to engage more and recruit the big providers

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Unknown Karen: ...then try to engage more and recruit the big providers

15:10:43 <Karen> ...and then find resources; public funding, etc.

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Unknown Karen: ...and then find resources; public funding, etc.

15:10:50 <Karen> ...so that's why we are starting with an IG

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Unknown Karen: ...so that's why we are starting with an IG

15:10:56 <Karen> ...people are concerned about resources

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Unknown Karen: ...people are concerned about resources

15:11:10 <Karen> ...they always ask about workload; 'what do you expect from us'

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Unknown Karen: ...they always ask about workload; 'what do you expect from us'

15:11:26 <Karen> ...I say a teleconference every other week, mailing lists, and two F2F meetings

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Unknown Karen: ...I say a teleconference every other week, mailing lists, and two F2F meetings

15:11:31 <Karen> ...then they seem more open

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Unknown Karen: ...then they seem more open

15:11:37 <Karen> ...topics make sense to them

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Unknown Karen: ...topics make sense to them

15:11:53 <Karen> ...we are in final stages of the charter

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Unknown Karen: ...we are in final stages of the charter

15:11:59 <Karen> ...target is end of month

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Unknown Karen: ...target is end of month

15:12:08 <Karen> ...most problematic issue is not content

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Unknown Karen: ...most problematic issue is not content

15:12:17 <Karen> ...problem is the liaisons

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Unknown Karen: ...problem is the liaisons

15:12:23 <Karen> ...and coordination with other bodies

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Unknown Karen: ...and coordination with other bodies

15:12:44 <josema> -> http://www.w3.org/2008/02/eGov/ig-charter#coordination IG Liaison

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Unknown josema: -> http://www.w3.org/2008/02/eGov/ig-charter#coordination IG Liaison

15:13:15 <Karen> ...Liaison bodies

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Unknown Karen: ...Liaison bodies

15:13:56 <Karen> (see charter)

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Unknown Karen: (see charter)

15:14:08 <Karen> ...high level public servants who meet

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Unknown Karen: ...high level public servants who meet

15:14:14 <Karen> ...two or three of those

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Unknown Karen: ...two or three of those

15:14:35 <Karen> ...EU is the most complicated

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Unknown Karen: ...EU is the most complicated

15:15:01 <Karen> ...one representing US gov't; one representing EU

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Unknown Karen: ...one representing US gov't; one representing EU

15:15:18 <Karen> ...Novak, formerly with Library of Congress

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Unknown Karen: ...Novak, formerly with Library of Congress

15:15:26 <Karen> ...I have to find someone else now

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Unknown Karen: ...I have to find someone else now

15:15:37 <Karen> ...Chris Testa

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Unknown Karen: ...Chris Testa

15:16:49 <Karen> ...tried another Library of Congress contact, but no success yet

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Unknown Karen: ...tried another Library of Congress contact, but no success yet

15:17:34 <Karen> ...Novak had experience in standards groups

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Unknown Karen: ...Novak had experience in standards groups

15:17:43 <Karen> ...he agreed to chair IG

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Unknown Karen: ...he agreed to chair IG

15:17:55 <Karen> ...condidtion is that his institute join W3C

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Unknown Karen: ...condidtion is that his institute join W3C

15:17:57 <Karen> ...AIA

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Unknown Karen: ...AIA

15:18:03 <Karen> ...Chris Testa

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Unknown Karen: ...Chris Testa

15:18:12 <Karen> ...Museum has gov't status

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Unknown Karen: ...Museum has gov't status

15:18:18 <Karen> ...CIO is interested in joining the work

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Unknown Karen: ...CIO is interested in joining the work

15:18:30 <Karen> ...also should join before 1 April and participate in the IG

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Unknown Karen: ...also should join before 1 April and participate in the IG

15:18:36 <Karen> ...that's the US side of it

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Unknown Karen: ...that's the US side of it

15:18:50 <Karen> ...I'll have a number of meetings in US in March

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Unknown Karen: ...I'll have a number of meetings in US in March

15:18:56 <Karen> ...Library, etc.

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Unknown Karen: ...Library, etc.

15:19:17 <Karen> ...in Europe, EU guy who would be perfect complement

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Unknown Karen: ...in Europe, EU guy who would be perfect complement

15:19:36 <Karen> ...European Interoperability Framework

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Unknown Karen: ...European Interoperability Framework

15:19:39 <Karen> ...Serge ?

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Unknown Karen: ...Serge Novaretti ?

15:19:47 <Karen> ...he is very interested

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Unknown Karen: ...he is very interested

15:19:59 <josema> s/Serge/Serge Novaretti/
15:20:28 <Karen> ...W3C is leading the way

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Unknown Karen: ...W3C is leading the way

15:20:40 <Karen> ...convince with strong arguments

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Unknown Karen: ...convince with strong arguments

15:20:49 <Karen> ...not too optimistic now

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Unknown Karen: ...not too optimistic now

15:21:07 <Karen> ...Informatics at EU is a Spanish gentleman

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Unknown Karen: ...Informatics at EU is a Spanish gentleman

15:21:28 <Karen> ...met two weeks ago; he said he'll try and get back to Josema

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Unknown Karen: ...met two weeks ago; he said he'll try and get back to Josema

15:21:36 <Karen> ...workig since last summer

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Unknown Karen: ...workig since last summer

15:21:50 <Karen> ...I plan to try to engage someone else

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Unknown Karen: ...I plan to try to engage someone else

15:22:03 <Karen> q+

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Unknown Karen: q+

15:22:11 <marie> ack k

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Unknown marie: ack k

15:22:12 <josema> ack ka

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Unknown josema: ack ka

15:22:34 <marie> q+

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Unknown marie: q+

15:22:59 <josema> karen: long time since workshop

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Unknown karen: long time since workshop [ Scribe Assist by Unknown josema ]

15:23:18 <josema> ... plan to have a stakeholder meeting or similar?

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Unknown josema: ... plan to have a stakeholder meeting or similar?

15:24:04 <Karen> Marie: like to answer Karen

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Unknown Marie: like to answer Karen [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Karen ]

15:24:14 <Karen> ...that's what I said to Josema during Team Day

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Unknown Karen: ...that's what I said to Josema during Team Day

15:24:25 <Karen> ...I wondered about how the work was evolving

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Unknown Karen: ...I wondered about how the work was evolving

15:24:47 <Karen> ...Workshop, then people who attend the Workshop stay tied to Team contact and then start work

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Unknown Karen: ...Workshop, then people who attend the Workshop stay tied to Team contact and then start work

15:24:56 <Karen> ...eGov may not be that obvious

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Unknown Karen: ...eGov may not be that obvious

15:25:09 <Karen> ...I'm not in favor of another Workshop; maybe a stakeholders meeting

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Unknown Karen: ...I'm not in favor of another Workshop; maybe a stakeholders meeting

15:25:20 <Karen> ...we should take advantage of the Workshop in Brazil

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Unknown Karen: ...we should take advantage of the Workshop in Brazil

15:25:28 <Karen> ...we should do more outreach

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Unknown Karen: ...we should do more outreach

15:25:39 <Karen> ...we should work together for prospects in all countries

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Unknown Karen: ...we should work together for prospects in all countries

15:25:44 <Karen> ...we don't need another Workshop

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Unknown Karen: ...we don't need another Workshop

15:25:55 <Karen> ...let's leverage the MW4D

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Unknown Karen: ...let's leverage the MW4D

15:26:17 <Karen> Karen: Mobile is one piece of it

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Unknown Karen: Mobile is one piece of it [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Karen ]

15:26:20 <Karen> Marie: I agree

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Unknown Marie: I agree [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Karen ]

15:26:25 <Karen> ...there are other tasks

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Unknown Karen: ...there are other tasks

15:26:36 <Karen> ...what I think would work is the guidelines

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Unknown Karen: ...what I think would work is the guidelines

15:26:46 <Karen> ...this should be promoted first

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Unknown Karen: ...this should be promoted first

15:26:56 <josema> marie, go ahead, I agree, I count the MW4D as kind of 3rd eGov workshop :)

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Unknown josema: marie, go ahead, I agree, I count the MW4D as kind of 3rd eGov workshop :)

15:26:58 <Karen> ...for how to make my Web site more friendly

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Unknown Karen: ...for how to make my Web site more friendly

15:27:29 <Karen> Karen: which comes first?

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Unknown Karen: which comes first? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Karen ]

15:27:45 <Karen> ...discussion and identification of challenges, or going into best practices

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Unknown Karen: ...discussion and identification of challenges, or going into best practices

15:28:00 <Karen> Josema: transparency, data integration

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Unknown Josema: transparency, data integration [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Karen ]

15:28:24 <Karen> ...when Stephan and I talk about eGov in developing countries

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Unknown Karen: ...when Stephan and I talk about eGov in developing countries

15:28:28 <Karen> ...mobile devices comes up

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Unknown Karen: ...mobile devices comes up

15:29:09 <marie> josema, but MW4D is just addressing eGov in a tiny piece

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Unknown marie: josema, but MW4D is just addressing eGov in a small piece

15:29:20 <marie> s/tiny/small
15:29:22 <Karen> ...I would love to have an eGov Best Practices like MWI BP

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Unknown Karen: ...I would love to have an eGov Best Practices like MWI BP

15:29:48 <Karen> ...people are concerned about accessibility

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Unknown Karen: ...people are concerned about accessibility

15:29:52 <Karen> ..and mobile

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Unknown Karen: ..and mobile

15:30:03 <Karen> ...many people have no idea

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Unknown Karen: ...many people have no idea

15:30:16 <Karen> ...don't know what they need to use from W3C

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Unknown Karen: ...don't know what they need to use from W3C

15:30:28 <Karen> ...guidelines that are comprehensive

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Unknown Karen: ...guidelines that are comprehensive

15:30:34 <Karen> ...Australia, UK has some interesting things

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Unknown Karen: ...Australia, UK has some interesting things

15:30:49 <Karen> ...turn it into something useful for everyone

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Unknown Karen: ...turn it into something useful for everyone

15:31:18 <Karen> ...they want IT and Web best practices

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Unknown Karen: ...they want IT and Web best practices

15:31:31 <Karen> ...for example liaise with IETF as well

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Unknown Karen: ...for example liaise with IETF as well

15:31:39 <Karen> ...many of them have asked for that

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Unknown Karen: ...many of them have asked for that

15:31:51 <Karen> ...in Spain, they told us what they wanted from W3C

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Unknown Karen: ...in Spain, they told us what they wanted from W3C

15:31:57 <Karen> ...and asked us when W3C would provide it

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Unknown Karen: ...and asked us when W3C would provide it

15:32:03 <Karen> ...said you need to help us

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Unknown Karen: ...said you need to help us

15:32:07 <Karen> ...join and do the work

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Unknown Karen: ...join and do the work

15:32:15 <Karen> ...so we can help solve the problems

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Unknown Karen: ...so we can help solve the problems

15:32:22 <marie> q+

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Unknown marie: q+

15:32:27 <Karen> ack Marie

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Unknown Karen: ack Marie

15:32:29 <josema> ack ma

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Unknown josema: ack ma

15:33:04 <Karen> Marie: What government buddies, representatives motivates them; what's the price to join?

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Unknown Marie: What government buddies, representatives motivates them; what's the price to join? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Karen ]

15:33:14 <Karen> Josema: Not too expensive

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Unknown Josema: Not too expensive [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Karen ]

15:33:27 <Karen> ...one problem is like in Spanish Ministry

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Unknown Karen: ...one problem is like in Spanish Ministry

15:33:35 <Karen> ...they don't have the "right" to do so

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Unknown Karen: ...they don't have the "right" to do so

15:33:44 <Karen> ...need high level, presidential approvals to do so

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Unknown Karen: ...need high level, presidential approvals to do so

15:33:49 <Karen> ...difficult internal discussions

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Unknown Karen: ...difficult internal discussions

15:34:05 <marie> q+

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Unknown marie: q+

15:34:36 <Karen> ...again, problem of time

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Unknown Karen: ...again, problem of time

15:34:48 <Karen> ...they say, "keep me posted"

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Unknown Karen: ...they say, "keep me posted"

15:34:51 <Karen> ack Marie

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Unknown Karen: ack Marie

15:35:01 <Karen> Marie: Capgemini, Accenture, consulting companies

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Unknown Marie: Capgemini, Accenture, consulting companies [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Karen ]

15:35:08 <Karen> ...would be logical drivers

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Unknown Karen: ...would be logical drivers

15:35:20 <Karen> ...we would like to have them involved

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Unknown Karen: ...we would like to have them involved

15:35:30 <Karen> ...Do you think they are ready to join W3C to develop best practices?

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Unknown Karen: ...Do you think they are ready to join W3C to develop best practices?

15:35:41 <Karen> Josema: So ready; they are

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Unknown Josema: So ready; they are [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Karen ]

15:35:55 <Karen> ...they have huge amounts of money to develop Web Apps for governments

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Unknown Karen: ...they have huge amounts of money to develop Web Apps for governments

15:36:17 <Karen> ...go to USA.gov Web site

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Unknown Karen: ...go to USA.gov Web site

15:36:32 <Karen> ...one of those installations can be $2-3million Euros

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Unknown Karen: ...one of those installations can be $2-3million Euros

15:36:40 <Karen> ...tie to specific use; then pay for everything

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Unknown Karen: ...tie to specific use; then pay for everything

15:36:46 <Karen> ...install mobile, plug-ins

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Unknown Karen: ...install mobile, plug-ins

15:37:05 <Karen> ...accessible code

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Unknown Karen: ...accessible code

15:37:28 <Karen> ...another issue to tackle; gov'ts want to be better with Web Apps so vendors don't take advantage

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Unknown Karen: ...another issue to tackle; gov'ts want to be better with Web Apps so vendors don't take advantage

15:37:37 <Karen> ...to follow W3C standards

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Unknown Karen: ...to follow W3C standards

15:37:44 <Karen> ...vendor comes to me and asks what that means

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Unknown Karen: ...vendor comes to me and asks what that means

15:37:54 <Karen> ...they ask which ones

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Unknown Karen: ...they ask which ones

15:38:00 <Karen> ...so vendors are interested in it

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Unknown Karen: ...so vendors are interested in it

15:38:05 <Karen> ...IBM for example

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Unknown Karen: ...IBM for example

15:38:10 <Karen> ...said they are interested

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Unknown Karen: ...said they are interested

15:38:22 <Karen> ...they see they can join something like this gov't group

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Unknown Karen: ...they see they can join something like this gov't group

15:38:31 <Karen> ...if they have specific requirements and best practices

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Unknown Karen: ...if they have specific requirements and best practices

15:38:39 <Karen> ...then they could build applications

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Unknown Karen: ...then they could build applications

15:38:53 <Karen> ...I spoke with Siemens

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Unknown Karen: ...I spoke with Siemens

15:39:06 <Karen> ...complaining they have to repeat; 50%

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Unknown Karen: ...complaining they have to repeat; 50%

15:39:27 <josema> ack ka

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Unknown josema: ack ka

15:39:36 <marie> [mcf: so we need to draw a line between vendors (already W3C members) and those who customize the products (Accenture, etc.)]

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Unknown marie: [mcf: so we need to draw a line between vendors (already W3C members) and those who customize the products (Accenture, etc.)]

15:40:27 <josema> karen: 1st step, educate public servants

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Unknown karen: 1st step, educate public servants [ Scribe Assist by Unknown josema ]

15:40:54 <josema> ...2nd BP = participate in W3C

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Unknown josema: ...2nd BP = participate in W3C

15:42:06 <josema> Karen Evans (OMB)

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Unknown josema: Karen Evans (OMB)

15:42:21 <Karen> ...she is the eGov head for US

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Unknown Karen: ...she is the eGov head for US

15:42:27 <Karen> ...she works for OMB

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Unknown Karen: ...she works for OMB

15:42:43 <Karen> ...I can convince her to join W3C; she can take this decision

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Unknown Karen: ...I can convince her to join W3C; she can take this decision

15:43:04 <Karen> ...I think this is the same for other alliance

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Unknown Karen: ...I think this is the same for other alliance

15:43:16 <Karen> ...OMB and GSA are the most important for US and we have contacts for those

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Unknown Karen: ...OMB and GSA are the most important for US and we have contacts for those

15:43:35 <Karen> ...what I am trying to find

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Unknown Karen: ...what I am trying to find

15:43:39 <Karen> ...send a message about events

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Unknown Karen: ...send a message about events

15:43:49 <Karen> ...I'm trying to participate in a lot of events

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Unknown Karen: ...I'm trying to participate in a lot of events

15:43:58 <Karen> ...where I can meet high-level government people

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Unknown Karen: ...where I can meet high-level government people

15:44:12 <Karen> ...Harvard University events for example; at JFK School of Gov't

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Unknown Karen: ...Harvard University events for example; at JFK School of Gov't

15:44:27 <Karen> ...they have high level people presenting

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Unknown Karen: ...they have high level people presenting

15:44:32 <Karen> ...but I need some help to convince them

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Unknown Karen: ...but I need some help to convince them

15:44:39 <Karen> ...giving you briefing today on where I am so far

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Unknown Karen: ...giving you briefing today on where I am so far

15:44:49 <Karen> ...I want to work on the messaging to convince people to join the work

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Unknown Karen: ...I want to work on the messaging to convince people to join the work

15:45:13 <Karen> ...we need to show them a business case

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Unknown Karen: ...we need to show them a business case

15:46:09 <Karen> Karen: when you are in at W3C

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Unknown Karen: when you are in at W3C [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Karen ]

15:46:15 <Karen> ...Tuesday, 24 March

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Unknown Karen: ...Tuesday, 24 March

15:46:22 <Karen> Marie: No, I'm under water

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Unknown Marie: No, I'm under water [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Karen ]

15:47:04 <josema> I'll be at MIT Tuesday 25 to Friday 28 March

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Unknown josema: I'll be at MIT Tuesday 25 to Friday 28 March

15:47:13 <Karen> Marie: but I'd like to work on this while it's hot

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Unknown Marie: but I'd like to work on this while it's hot [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Karen ]

15:47:24 <Karen> ...I would welcome another conference call next week

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Unknown Karen: ...I would welcome another conference call next week

15:47:27 <Karen> ...to get things started

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Unknown Karen: ...to get things started

15:47:37 <Karen> ...the speaking point page is more like a description of work

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Unknown Karen: ...the speaking point page is more like a description of work

15:47:48 <Karen> ...I would invite you to start at Team page

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Unknown Karen: ...I would invite you to start at Team page

15:47:54 <marie> 2008/03/egov-messaging.html

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Unknown marie: 2008/03/egov-messaging.html

15:48:03 <Karen> ...put your key words here

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Unknown Karen: ...put your key words here

15:48:07 <Karen> +1 Marie

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Unknown Karen: +1 Marie

15:48:16 <Karen> ...start here and regroup next week

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Unknown Karen: ...start here and regroup next week

15:48:46 <Karen> Karen: I need to get priortized with Steve

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Unknown Karen: I need to get priortized with Steve [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Karen ]

15:49:04 <Karen> Marie: Next Friday call

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Unknown Marie: Next Friday call [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Karen ]

15:49:36 <Karen> Josema: I have Friday lunches

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Unknown Josema: I have Friday lunches [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Karen ]

15:50:00 <Karen> Marie: Maybe 3:00pm CET

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Unknown Marie: Maybe 3:00pm CET [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Karen ]

15:50:11 <Karen> Josema: what about 1:00 or 2:00pm

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Unknown Josema: what about 1:00 or 2:00pm [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Karen ]

15:50:24 <Karen> Marie: next week is only 5 hours difference

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Unknown Marie: next week is only 5 hours difference [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Karen ]

15:50:38 <Karen> Josema: 8:00am EDT, 1:00pm Europe

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Unknown Josema: 8:00am EDT, 1:00pm Europe [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Karen ]

15:50:56 <marie> agenda?

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Unknown marie: agenda?

15:50:57 <Karen> Karen: I'll do homework

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Unknown Karen: I'll do homework [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Karen ]

15:51:26 <Karen> Marie: I would add section for events and outreach

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Unknown Marie: I would add section for events and outreach [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Karen ]

15:51:31 <Karen> ...events that you plan to attend

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Unknown Karen: ...events that you plan to attend

15:51:39 <Karen> ...and meetings

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Unknown Karen: ...and meetings

15:51:42 <josema> -> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/Plan/#events eGov events

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Unknown josema: -> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/Plan/#events eGov events

15:51:45 <Karen> ...related to eGov

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Unknown Karen: ...related to eGov

15:51:50 <Karen> Marie: You could add to this list

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Unknown Marie: You could add to this list [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Karen ]

15:51:53 <Karen> ...the IST events

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Unknown Karen: ...the IST events

15:52:02 <Karen> ...the big IST conference in Lyon, France

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Unknown Karen: ...the big IST conference in Lyon, France

15:52:28 <Karen> ...we could have a booth there and participate

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Unknown Karen: ...we could have a booth there and participate

15:52:33 <Karen> ...for MWI work and eGov

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Unknown Karen: ...for DWF work and eGov

15:52:37 <Karen> ...welcome to come with us

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Unknown Karen: ...welcome to come with us

15:52:41 <Karen> ...November 2008

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Unknown Karen: ...November 2008

15:52:44 <marie> s/MWI/DWF
15:53:15 <marie> http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/events/ict/2008/index_en.htm

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Unknown marie: http://ec.europa.eu/information_society/events/ict/2008/index_en.htm

15:53:22 <Karen> ...26-27 November

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Unknown Karen: ...26-27 November

15:53:24 <marie> 25-27 Nov.

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Unknown marie: 25-27 Nov.

15:53:50 <Karen> Action Josema: set up Zakim, agenda, messaging page

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Unknown Karen: Action Josema: set up Zakim, agenda, messaging page

15:54:16 <Karen> Karen: when do you arrive in Boston?

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Unknown Karen: when do you arrive in Boston? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Karen ]

15:54:33 <Karen> Josema: evening of Monday, 24 March

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Unknown Josema: evening of Monday, 24 March [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Karen ]

15:54:37 <marie> "Conference programme:

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Unknown marie: "Conference programme:

15:54:37 <marie> The first draft programme will be published in March 2008."

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Unknown marie: The first draft programme will be published in March 2008."

15:54:38 <Karen> ...at MIT Tuesday-Friday

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Unknown Karen: ...at MIT Tuesday-Friday

15:54:42 <Karen> ...depart Friday evening

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Unknown Karen: ...depart Friday evening

15:55:14 <marie> [josema: might see if we czn get involved in the conf. program]

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Unknown marie: [josema: might find out if we czn get involved in the conf. program]

15:55:21 <Zakim> -Karen

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Zakim IRC Bot: -Karen

15:55:21 <josema> zakim, drop me

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Unknown josema: zakim, drop me

15:55:22 <Zakim> -Mcf

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Zakim IRC Bot: -Mcf

15:55:22 <Zakim> Josema is being disconnected

Zakim IRC Bot: Josema is being disconnected

15:55:23 <Zakim> T&S_(EGOV)10:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_(EGOV)10:00AM has ended

15:55:23 <Zakim> Attendees were Josema, Mcf, Karen

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Josema, Mcf, Karen

15:55:32 <josema> RRSAGent, list attendees

Scribe problem: the name 'josema' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'josema' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown josema: RRSAGent, list attendees

15:55:32 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'list attendees', josema.  Try /msg RRSAgent help

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I'm logging. I don't understand 'list attendees', josema. Try /msg RRSAgent help

15:55:33 <marie> s/see/find out
15:56:27 <josema> list attendees

Scribe problem: the name 'josema' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'josema' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown josema: list attendees

15:56:34 <josema> zakim list attendees

Scribe problem: the name 'josema' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'josema' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown josema: zakim list attendees

15:56:39 <josema> arghhh...

Scribe problem: the name 'josema' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'josema' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown josema: arghhh...

15:56:44 <josema> zakim, list attendees

Scribe problem: the name 'josema' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'josema' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown josema: zakim, list attendees

15:56:44 <Zakim> sorry, josema, I don't know what conference this is

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, josema, I don't know what conference this is

15:56:51 <josema> zakim, this is egov

Scribe problem: the name 'josema' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'josema' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown josema: zakim, this is egov

15:56:51 <Zakim> josema, I see T&S_(EGOV)10:00AM in the schedule but not yet started.  Perhaps you mean "this will be egov".

Zakim IRC Bot: josema, I see T&S_(EGOV)10:00AM in the schedule but not yet started. Perhaps you mean "this will be egov".

15:57:07 <josema> zakim, this will be egov

Scribe problem: the name 'josema' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'josema' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown josema: zakim, this will be egov

15:57:07 <Zakim> ok, josema; I see T&S_(EGOV)10:00AM scheduled to start 57 minutes ago

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, josema; I see T&S_(EGOV)10:00AM scheduled to start 57 minutes ago

15:57:13 <josema> zakim, list attendees

Scribe problem: the name 'josema' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'josema' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown josema: zakim, list attendees

15:57:13 <Zakim> sorry, josema, I don't know what conference this is

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, josema, I don't know what conference this is

15:57:41 <josema> RRSAgent, make log team

Scribe problem: the name 'josema' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'josema' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown josema: RRSAgent, make log team

15:57:49 <josema> RRSAgent, draft minutes

Scribe problem: the name 'josema' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'josema' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown josema: RRSAgent, draft minutes

15:57:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/03/07-egov-minutes.html josema

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/03/07-egov-minutes.html josema

15:59:52 <Zakim> Zakim has left &egov

Zakim IRC Bot: Zakim has left &egov

15:59:57 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/07-egov-actions.rdf :

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/07-egov-actions.rdf :

15:59:57 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Josema to set up Zakim, agenda, messaging page [1]

ACTION: Josema to set up Zakim, agenda, messaging page [1]

15:59:57 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/07-egov-irc#T15-53-50

RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/03/07-egov-irc#T15-53-50



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