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Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 20 November 2015

Agenda
DUV (10 min) DQV (10 min) * BP APIs * BP Sensitive Data * BP Content Negotiation * Examples * Other changes made in the document
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Annette Greiner, Antoine Isaac, Bart van Leeuwen, Carlos Laufer, Caroline Burle, Eric Kauz, Eric Stephan, Makx Dekkers, Manuel Carrasco Benitez, Newton Calegari, Peter Winstanley, Phil Archer, Unknown Bart_van_Leeuwen, Yaso Córdova
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Caroline Burle, Phil Archer
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Resolutions
  1. Accepted last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2015/11/13-dwbp-minutes link
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13:46:16 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DWBP

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13:46:16 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot

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13:46:17 <trackbot> Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
13:46:17 <trackbot> Date: 20 November 2015
13:46:18 <PWinstanley> present+ PWinstanley

Peter Winstanley: present+ PWinstanley

13:46:27 <phila_> present+ phila_

Phil Archer: present+ phila_

13:46:47 <newton> \me The webex message "You cannot start or join this meeting because your operating system is not supported. We recommend that you upgrade to a supported operating system. Refer to the WebEx release notes for information about supported operating systems."

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13:56:15 <phila> zakim, code?

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Phil Archer: zakim, code?

13:56:15 <Zakim> I have been told this is https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m0642b1c7ce49018a07ffec17ea136ae6 or +1-617-324-0000 US Toll Number, Access code: 645 096 989 PW: xGbzp445 Host Key

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13:57:20 <phila> phila has changed the topic to: From now on, you'll need the password to join via WebEx: xGbzp445

Phil Archer: phila has changed the topic to: From now on, you'll need the password to join via WebEx: xGbzp445

13:57:28 <yaso_> Hi phila

Yaso Córdova: Hi phila

13:57:44 <yaso_> The access code is 645 096 98

Yaso Córdova: The access code is 645 096 98

13:57:47 <yaso_> right?

Yaso Córdova: right?

13:57:54 <yaso_> I cannot connect :-/

Yaso Córdova: I cannot connect :-/

13:59:52 <MTCarrasco> present+  MTCarrasco

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: present+ MTCarrasco

14:01:58 <yaso_> phila: would you chair for some minutes, so I can find a best place?

Phil Archer: would you chair for some minutes, so I can find a best place? [ Scribe Assist by Yaso Córdova ]

14:02:11 <yaso_> (today is holiday in Brazil and I'm not in SP)

Yaso Córdova: (today is holiday in Brazil and I'm not in SP)

14:02:36 <PWinstanley_> present+ PWinstanley

Peter Winstanley: present+ PWinstanley

14:02:52 <newton_> present+ newton

Newton Calegari: present+ newton

14:03:01 <yaso_> phila:

Phil Archer: [ Scribe Assist by Yaso Córdova ]

14:03:05 <Eric_Kauz> present+ Eric_Kauz

Eric Kauz: present+ Eric_Kauz

14:03:14 <yaso_> Maybe Its me, I'm dialing via hangouts

Yaso Córdova: Maybe Its me, I'm dialing via hangouts

14:03:36 <yaso_> ok

Yaso Córdova: ok

14:03:53 <BartvanLeeuwen> hi

Bart van Leeuwen: hi

14:04:03 <PWinstanley_> Hi Bart

Peter Winstanley: Hi Bart

14:04:05 <BartvanLeeuwen> present+ BartvanLeeuwen

Bart van Leeuwen: present+ BartvanLeeuwen

14:04:11 <Caroline> hello! The webex is asking me a meeting password

Caroline Burle: hello! The webex is asking me a meeting password

14:04:38 <Caroline> Present+ Caroline

Caroline Burle: Present+ Caroline

14:05:14 <Caroline> thank you phila!

Caroline Burle: thank you phila!

14:05:40 <phila> zakim, code?

Phil Archer: zakim, code?

14:05:40 <Zakim> I have been told this is https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m0642b1c7ce49018a07ffec17ea136ae6 or +1-617-324-0000 US Toll Number, Access code: 645 096 989 PW: xGbzp445 Host Key

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14:05:43 <Zakim> ... 538630

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14:06:40 <ericstephan> present+ ericstephan

Eric Stephan: present+ ericstephan

14:07:06 <antoine> present+ antoine

Antoine Isaac: present+ antoine

14:07:33 <annette_g> Is there a new room number for the Webex?

Annette Greiner: Is there a new room number for the Webex?

14:07:52 <Caroline> xGbzp445

Caroline Burle:

14:08:02 <annette_g> That's the password...

Annette Greiner: That's the password...

14:08:04 <Caroline> this is the password Webex is asking

Caroline Burle: this is the password Webex is asking

14:08:19 <Caroline> I don't know about room number, sorry!

Caroline Burle: I don't know about room number, sorry!

14:08:51 <newton_> present+ newton

Newton Calegari: present+ newton

14:08:57 <phila> s/xGbzp445//
14:09:21 <annette_g> For some reason, I get "invalid number or room ID" with the number I've been using

Annette Greiner: For some reason, I get "invalid number or room ID" with the number I've been using

14:09:36 <yaso_> present+ yaso

Yaso Córdova: present+ yaso

14:09:46 <PWinstanley> present+ PWinstanley

Peter Winstanley: present+ PWinstanley

14:09:52 <yaso_> ouch,

Yaso Córdova: ouch,

14:09:55 <BartvanLeeuwen> present+ BartvanLeeuwen

Bart van Leeuwen: present+ BartvanLeeuwen

14:10:08 <phila> scribe: Caroline

(Scribe set to Caroline Burle)

14:10:26 <phila> PROPOSED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2015/11/13-dwbp-minutes

PROPOSED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2015/11/13-dwbp-minutes

14:10:30 <annette_g> If I just follow the link, it says the meeting has been cancelled

Annette Greiner: If I just follow the link, it says the meeting has been cancelled

14:10:57 <phila> zakim, code?

Phil Archer: zakim, code?

14:10:57 <Zakim> I have been told this is https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m0642b1c7ce49018a07ffec17ea136ae6 or +1-617-324-0000 US Toll Number, Access code: 645 096 989 PW: xGbzp445 Host Key

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14:11:00 <Zakim> ... 538630

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14:11:04 <laufer> present+ laufer

Carlos Laufer: present+ laufer

14:11:53 <phila> +1

Phil Archer: +1

14:11:56 <Caroline> +1

+1

14:11:56 <antoine> +0

Antoine Isaac: +0

14:11:59 <ericstephan> +1

Eric Stephan: +1

14:12:02 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1

Bart van Leeuwen: +1

14:12:03 <newton_> +1

Newton Calegari: +1

14:12:03 <laufer> +1

Carlos Laufer: +1

14:12:08 <PWinstanley> +1

Peter Winstanley: +1

14:12:11 <Eric_Kauz> +1

Eric Kauz: +1

14:12:12 <phila> REOLUTIONPROPOSED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2015/11/13-dwbp-minutes

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Unknown REOLUTIONPROPOSED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2015/11/13-dwbp-minutes [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

14:12:27 <phila> RESOLUTION: Accepted last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2015/11/13-dwbp-minutes

RESOLVED: Accepted last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2015/11/13-dwbp-minutes

14:12:53 <ericstephan> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html

Eric Stephan: http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-du.html

14:12:57 <Caroline> update on data usage

update on data usage

14:12:58 <phila> Topic: dataset usage

1. dataset usage

14:13:10 <Caroline> ericstephan: last week I went over the details

Eric Stephan: last week I went over the details

14:13:16 <Caroline> ... we need comments from the WG

... we need comments from the WG

14:13:27 <Caroline> ... we put together about 6 issues

... we put together about 6 issues

14:13:44 <Caroline> ... they are in our email list

... they are in our email list

14:13:54 <Caroline> ... from BP or vocabs we are using

... from BP or vocabs we are using

14:13:55 <annette_g> present+ annette_g

Annette Greiner: present+ annette_g

14:14:20 <Caroline> ... I won't go into details here, but I kindly ask you to check these issues through the email and send comments

... I won't go into details here, but I kindly ask you to check these issues through the email and send comments

14:14:27 <Caroline> ... questions?

... questions?

14:14:40 <Caroline> phila: can you give us a sens of the complexity of these issues?

Phil Archer: can you give us a sens of the complexity of these issues?

14:14:49 <Caroline> ... how much effort is going to be required?

... how much effort is going to be required?

14:15:03 <Caroline> ericstephan: 214 to 218 are simple

Eric Stephan: 214 to 218 are simple

14:15:20 <Caroline> ... one of them uses data quality metric and I am using a instance called ??

... one of them uses data quality metric and I am using a instance called ??

14:15:33 <Caroline> ... there are questions like that

... there are questions like that

14:15:57 <Caroline> ... it wouldn't need much time

... it wouldn't need much time

14:16:09 <Caroline> phila: we should respond to that as soon as possible

Phil Archer: we should respond to that as soon as possible

14:16:25 <Caroline> ericstephan: we need that for the next version

Eric Stephan: we need that for the next version

14:16:58 <Caroline> phila: we need to get next drafts done in less than 2 weeks

Phil Archer: we need to get next drafts done in less than 2 weeks

14:17:10 <yaso_> present+ yasooooooooooooooo

Yaso Córdova: present+ yasooooooooooooooo

14:17:10 <Caroline> ... please read the emails and contribute!

... please read the emails and contribute!

14:17:13 <yaso_> ops, sorry

Yaso Córdova: ops, sorry

14:17:34 <yaso_> ok

Yaso Córdova: ok

14:18:24 <Caroline> yaso_: we have 10min for each vocab and then we should talk about the BP document

Yaso Córdova: we have 10min for each vocab and then we should talk about the BP document

14:18:43 <Caroline> agenda: DUV (10 min) DQV (10 min)  * BP APIs * BP Sensitive Data * BP Content Negotiation * Examples * Other changes made in the document
14:19:39 <Caroline> antoine: I kindly ask for contributions on what is open

Antoine Isaac: I kindly ask for contributions on what is open

14:20:01 <Caroline> ... one of the last issues that ws open was metadata

... one of the last issues that ws open was metadata

14:20:14 <Caroline> ... metadata for datasets in a specif standard

... metadata for datasets in a specif standard

14:21:11 <Caroline> ... please if you have any considerations about this issue send it by email

... please if you have any considerations about this issue send it by email

14:21:38 <phila> Topic: BP doc

2. BP doc

14:21:46 <yaso_> No problem, phila. The power has gone off in the place where I had good Internet due to a strong storm, I tried to go to a public place, but :-/

Yaso Córdova: No problem, phila. The power has gone off in the place where I had good Internet due to a strong storm, I tried to go to a public place, but :-/

14:21:53 <yaso_> Thank You Caroline!

Yaso Córdova: Thank You Caroline!

14:21:59 <phila> scribe: phila

(Scribe set to Phil Archer)

14:22:22 <phila> Caroline: I'd like to give you feedback on some updates we've made

Caroline Burle: I'd like to give you feedback on some updates we've made

14:22:48 <Caroline> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html

Caroline Burle: http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html

14:23:04 <phila> Caroline: Some updates there...

Caroline Burle: Some updates there...

14:23:09 <PWinstanley_> present+ PWinstanley

Peter Winstanley: present+ PWinstanley

14:23:14 <phila> Caroline: We implemented some examples

Caroline Burle: We implemented some examples

14:23:37 <phila> ... examples in data formats, BP3, locale parameters, BP5, licence info, data prov

... examples in data formats, BP3, locale parameters, BP5, licence info, data prov

14:23:53 <phila> ... so most of hte BPs now have examples but still have several that need (maybe half)

... so most of hte BPs now have examples but still have several that need (maybe half)

14:24:15 <phila> ... However, same as Eric and Antoine, we need help with feedback.

... However, same as Eric and Antoine, we need help with feedback.

14:24:23 <phila> ... We need to raise some issues here

... We need to raise some issues here

14:24:55 <phila> Caroline: Maybe we can start sharing and discussing a little

Caroline Burle: Maybe we can start sharing and discussing a little

14:24:56 <phila> Topic: Sensitive data

3. Sensitive data

14:25:42 <ericstephan> q+

Eric Stephan: q+

14:25:56 <phila> Caroline: We made some changes. Makx and Eric started discussing it so we changed it also bearing in mind f2f resolution

Caroline Burle: We made some changes. Makx and Eric started discussing it so we changed it also bearing in mind f2f resolution

14:26:17 <phila> ... We took out the BP about privacy and put in some info about that in the description

... We took out the BP about privacy and put in some info about that in the description

14:26:25 <phila> ... and we kept the other BP, but still need an example

... and we kept the other BP, but still need an example

14:26:38 <phila> ... so it would be nice to have some input.

... so it would be nice to have some input.

14:26:45 <phila> ack next

ack next

14:27:07 <phila> ericstephan: I'd forgotten that we'd talked about that in the f2f. I'll review that.

Eric Stephan: I'd forgotten that we'd talked about that in the f2f. I'll review that.

14:27:17 <phila> ... I think what we talked about at the f2f is a much better way to go

... I think what we talked about at the f2f is a much better way to go

14:27:21 <yaso_> This is the link http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Nov/0055.html for the emails

Yaso Córdova: This is the link http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Nov/0055.html for the emails

14:27:31 <phila> Caroline: I'll try and put in the example we have been talking about

Caroline Burle: I'll try and put in the example we have been talking about

14:28:11 <Caroline> phila: I asked Christophe to put some examples on data preservation

Phil Archer: I asked Christophe to put some examples on data preservation [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:28:30 <Caroline> ... I adapted the first one he's done to the BP examples

Caroline Burle: ... I adapted the first one he's done to the BP examples

14:28:42 <Caroline> ... I also looked at the examples 13 and 14

Caroline Burle: ... I also looked at the examples 13 and 14

14:28:52 <Caroline> ... one of them uses examples of CSV

Caroline Burle: ... one of them uses examples of CSV

14:29:00 <Caroline> ... iVan Hermman is looking that

Caroline Burle: ... iVan Hermman is looking that

14:29:09 <phila> -> http://philarcher1.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#MachineReadableStandardizedFormat PhilA's changes

-> http://philarcher1.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#MachineReadableStandardizedFormat PhilA's changes

14:29:13 <Caroline> ... I haven't sent you a pull request yet because I am still working on it

Caroline Burle: ... I haven't sent you a pull request yet because I am still working on it

14:29:23 <newton_> q+

Newton Calegari: q+

14:29:50 <phila> Ack next

Ack next

14:30:06 <newton_> http://newtoncalegari.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#Conneg

Newton Calegari: http://newtoncalegari.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#Conneg

14:30:06 <phila> newton_: We've made some changes this week and have some issues to dicuss.

Newton Calegari: We've made some changes this week and have some issues to dicuss.

14:30:09 <PWinstanley> present+ PWinstanley

Peter Winstanley: present+ PWinstanley

14:30:12 <phila> ... I'll start with the conneg BP

... I'll start with the Content negotiation BP

14:30:24 <phila> ... I started writing some text on my GH but haven't merged it yet

... I started writing some text on my GH but haven't merged it yet

14:30:41 <Caroline> s/conneg/Content negotiation
14:31:31 <newton_> Best Practice 21: Serving data and resources with different formats

Newton Calegari: Best Practice 21: Serving data and resources with different formats

14:32:48 <phila> -> http://newtoncalegari.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#UniqueIdentifiers

-> http://newtoncalegari.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#UniqueIdentifiers

14:32:51 <Caroline> newton_: : Can I use apache?

Newton Calegari: : Can I use apache? [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:33:18 <Caroline> phila: you already got that text that talks about content negotiation and needs to be linked

Phil Archer: you already got that text that talks about content negotiation and needs to be linked [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:34:02 <Caroline> ...if you want to change the location of the texts you may do it

Caroline Burle: ...if you want to change the location of the texts you may do it

14:34:27 <Caroline> newton_: is the group happy with a BP on content negotiation?

Newton Calegari: is the group happy with a BP on content negotiation? [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:34:38 <newton_> http://www.w3.org/TR/dwbp-ucr/#R-FormatMultiple

Newton Calegari: http://www.w3.org/TR/dwbp-ucr/#R-FormatMultiple

14:35:02 <phila> PROPOSED: That we include a spdecific BP on content negotiation

PROPOSED: That we include a spdecific BP on content negotiation

14:35:07 <Caroline> ... can we use the requirement http://www.w3.org/TR/dwbp-ucr/#R-FormatMultiple or should we have a new requirement?

Caroline Burle: ... can we use the requirement http://www.w3.org/TR/dwbp-ucr/#R-FormatMultiple or should we have a new requirement?

14:35:07 <yaso_> Newton, I don't think we need a new requirement...

Yaso Córdova: Newton, I don't think we need a new requirement...

14:35:09 <yaso_> +1

Yaso Córdova: +1

14:35:12 <laufer> q+

Carlos Laufer: q+

14:35:14 <phila> PROPOSED: That we include a specific BP on content negotiation

PROPOSED: That we include a specific BP on content negotiation

14:35:19 <phila> ack laufer

ack laufer

14:35:23 <newton_> +1

Newton Calegari: +1

14:36:25 <Caroline> laufer: when we talk about RDF or XML they are not the same data

Carlos Laufer: when we talk about RDF or XML they are not the same data [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:36:32 <Caroline> phila: it might me the same data

Phil Archer: it might me the same data [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:36:53 <Caroline> laufer: I need the HTML if I want the data itself and RDF if??

Carlos Laufer: I need the HTML if I want the data itself and RDF if?? [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:37:17 <Caroline> phila: there are different ways to looking at it

Phil Archer: there are different ways to looking at it [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:37:40 <Caroline> laufer: when I receive a HTML with a RDF inside it I am receiving the data

Carlos Laufer: when I receive a HTML with a RDF inside it I am receiving the data [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:37:53 <Caroline> ... when I ask for the RDF I might not receive the same data

Caroline Burle: ... when I ask for the RDF I might not receive the same data

14:38:14 <Caroline> ... we are talking about diferent formats

Caroline Burle: ... we are talking about diferent formats

14:38:20 <MTCarrasco> The format is one of the dimensions of a resource

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: The format is one of the dimensions of a resource

14:38:34 <Caroline> ... I can have a CSV, an XML

Caroline Burle: ... I can have a CSV, an XML

14:38:45 <Caroline> phila: you might have the same data

Phil Archer: you might have the same data [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:38:52 <Caroline> ... still a diferent representation

Caroline Burle: ... still a diferent representation

14:39:04 <Caroline> ... consumption for machine and consumption for a person

Caroline Burle: ... consumption for machine and consumption for a person

14:39:15 <Caroline> ... the resource still the same, even it is not identical

Caroline Burle: ... the resource still the same, even it is not identical

14:39:31 <Caroline> laufer: you can have HTML without RDF added to it

Carlos Laufer: you can have HTML without RDF added to it [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:39:46 <MTCarrasco> http://example.com/foo is the resource and it can be in HTML, CSV, etc - and it Spanish, English, etc - and in version1, versionN

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: http://example.com/foo is the resource and it can be in HTML, CSV, etc - and it Spanish, English, etc - and in version1, versionN

14:39:57 <MTCarrasco> q+

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: q+

14:40:05 <Caroline> phila: web architeture sayas that is the same resource received in diferent ways

Phil Archer: web architeture sayas that is the same resource received in diferent ways [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:40:09 <newton_> Laufer, it's not the same data "translated" to a different language.

Newton Calegari: Laufer, it's not the same data "translated" to a different language.

14:40:32 <newton_> It's a different representation of the same resource. In each language, it could have an specific way to represent it

Newton Calegari: It's a different representation of the same resource. In each language, it could have an specific way to represent it

14:40:34 <phila> ack Makx

ack Makx

14:40:36 <phila> ack m

ack m

14:40:53 <Bart_van_Leeuwen> present+ Bart_van_Leeuwen

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Unknown Bart_van_Leeuwen: present+ Bart_van_Leeuwen

14:40:56 <Caroline> can't hear MTCarrasco

Caroline Burle: can't hear MTCarrasco

14:41:01 <Caroline> now I can! :)

Caroline Burle: now I can! :)

14:41:34 <Caroline> MTCarrasco: I think the formats are just variants from the same resources

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: I think the formats are just variants from the same resources [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:41:37 <Caroline> phila: I agree

Phil Archer: I agree [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:41:39 <Bart_van_Leeuwen> +1

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Unknown Bart_van_Leeuwen: +1

14:41:40 <antoine> +1

Antoine Isaac: +1

14:41:45 <annette_g> q+

Annette Greiner: q+

14:41:54 <phila> ack n

ack n

14:41:56 <phila> ack a

ack a

14:42:17 <Caroline> annette_g: Is it possible to actually request parts of pages in diferent formats?

Annette Greiner: Is it possible to actually request parts of pages in diferent formats? [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:42:18 <laufer> rdf data have extra information of the data that is in different formats

Carlos Laufer: rdf data have extra information of the data that is in different formats

14:42:24 <Caroline> MTCarrasco: I don't think so

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: I don't think so [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:42:31 <Caroline> ... you can point to centain variant

Caroline Burle: ... you can point to centain variant

14:42:45 <laufer> rdf contains metadata - is not the same thing

Carlos Laufer: rdf contains metadata - is not the same thing

14:42:53 <Caroline> annette_g: I don't understand this BP

Annette Greiner: I don't understand this BP [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:43:13 <Caroline> MTCarrasco: it is about granularity

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: it is about granularity [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:43:20 <Caroline> ... it is a way of ??

Caroline Burle: ... it is a way of ??

14:44:04 <Caroline> phila: I have to come up a proposal to have a point of how do you ask for a portion of a dataset

Phil Archer: I have to come up a proposal to have a point of how do you ask for a portion of a dataset [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:44:15 <ericstephan> q+

Eric Stephan: q+

14:44:21 <laufer> q+

Carlos Laufer: q+

14:44:43 <Caroline> MTCarrasco:  the variant could be the format or?

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: the variant could be the format or? [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:44:55 <newton_> q+

Newton Calegari: q+

14:45:33 <phila> ack e

ack e

14:45:42 <ericstephan> Force11 RRID: Resource Identification Initiative

Eric Stephan: Force11 RRID: Resource Identification Initiative

14:46:14 <MTCarrasco> http://dragoman.org/comuri.html#variant

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: http://dragoman.org/comuri.html#variant

14:46:38 <phila> ericstephan: Pointed to the webinar from Force 11

Eric Stephan: Pointed to the webinar from Force 11

14:46:54 <phila> phila: Yes, that looks interesting

Phil Archer: Yes, that looks interesting

14:46:57 <phila> ack l

ack l

14:47:29 <Bart_van_Leeuwen> q+

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Unknown Bart_van_Leeuwen: q+

14:47:49 <Caroline> laufer: It is not a diferent format of a same data. I think we can receive diferent data when we ask for that

Carlos Laufer: It is not a diferent format of a same data. I think we can receive diferent data when we ask for that [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:47:50 <MTCarrasco> Problems hearing Laufer

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Problems hearing Laufer

14:48:02 <Caroline> phila: it would be bad practice if the data is not the same

Phil Archer: it would be bad practice if the data is not the same [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:48:17 <Caroline> laufer: we receive metadata, which is more data

Carlos Laufer: we receive metadata, which is more data [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:48:29 <Caroline> ... we would receive diferent data then

Caroline Burle: ... we would receive diferent data then

14:49:09 <annette_g> q+

Annette Greiner: q+

14:49:10 <Caroline> phila: If I have a web page, a CSV file they will look diferent, but all of them list the same data

Phil Archer: If I have a web page, a CSV file they will look diferent, but all of them list the same data [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:49:14 <newton_> If you write a short bio about Laufer, it's a representation of the resource Laufer. If you take a picture of Laufer, it's a different represesentation of the same resource Laufer. Different data, yes. But they represent the same resource.

Newton Calegari: If you write a short bio about Laufer, it's a representation of the resource Laufer. If you take a picture of Laufer, it's a different represesentation of the same resource Laufer. Different data, yes. But they represent the same resource.

14:49:27 <Caroline> ... they can have diferent formats, but it is the same data

Caroline Burle: ... they can have diferent formats, but it is the same data

14:49:39 <MTCarrasco> URI metadata - http://dragoman.org/comuri.html#uri-metadata

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: URI metadata - http://dragoman.org/comuri.html#uri-metadata

14:49:55 <MTCarrasco> q+

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: q+

14:49:57 <laufer> if I receive the information that this is a short bio of laufer, it is another type of data, newton

Carlos Laufer: if I receive the information that this is a short bio of laufer, it is another type of data, newton

14:50:04 <phila> ack n

ack n

14:50:37 <Caroline> newton_: I was thinking on crowller

Newton Calegari: I was thinking on crowller [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:50:43 <PWinstanley_> present+ PWinstanley

Peter Winstanley: present+ PWinstanley

14:50:50 <Caroline> ... it would allow for example only content on JSON LD

Caroline Burle: ... it would allow for example only content on JSON LD

14:51:15 <Caroline> ... if you have a resource, even in HTML plus RDFa and my croller would get only JSON LD representation

Caroline Burle: ... if you have a resource, even in HTML plus RDFa and my croller would get only JSON LD representation

14:51:38 <Caroline> ... it was not only about the language, but the croller about content negotiation

Caroline Burle: ... it was not only about the language, but the croller about content negotiation

14:51:48 <Caroline> phila: in this case content negotiation works

Phil Archer: in this case content negotiation works [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:52:09 <phila> ack b

ack b

14:52:28 <Caroline> Bart_van_Leeuwen: I have been listening to this

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Unknown Bart_van_Leeuwen: I have been listening to this [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:52:37 <Bart_van_Leeuwen> Recent incident: http://data.brandweeraa.nl/data/incident/2015/396583/deployment/201511201546530

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Unknown Bart_van_Leeuwen: Recent incident: http://data.brandweeraa.nl/data/incident/2015/396583/deployment/201511201546530

14:52:44 <Caroline> ... one of the things we have been doing

Caroline Burle: ... one of the things we have been doing

14:52:59 <Caroline> ... this recent incident http://data.brandweeraa.nl/data/incident/2015/396583/deployment/201511201546530

Caroline Burle: ... this recent incident http://data.brandweeraa.nl/data/incident/2015/396583/deployment/201511201546530

14:53:18 <Caroline> ... I think we should have a BP showing that this is something that can be done

Caroline Burle: ... I think we should have a BP showing that this is something that can be done

14:53:22 <phila> http://data.brandweeraa.nl/data/incident/2015/396583/deployment/201511201546530.xml

http://data.brandweeraa.nl/data/incident/2015/396583/deployment/201511201546530.xml

14:53:29 <Caroline> ... I think it would make people's life much easier

Caroline Burle: ... I think it would make people's life much easier

14:53:32 <phila> http://data.brandweeraa.nl/data/incident/2015/396583/deployment/201511201546530.json

http://data.brandweeraa.nl/data/incident/2015/396583/deployment/201511201546530.json

14:53:33 <PWinstanley_> +1 to Bart

Peter Winstanley: +1 to Bart

14:54:00 <yaso> +1 to Bart also

Yaso Córdova: +1 to Bart also

14:54:03 <Caroline> phila: the URI Bart_van_Leeuwen sent shows very well what would be the BP Content Negotiation

Phil Archer: the URI Bart_van_Leeuwen sent shows very well what would be the BP Content Negotiation [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:54:14 <Caroline> ... that is the best way of doing it

Caroline Burle: ... that is the best way of doing it

14:54:21 <phila> q?

q?

14:54:24 <phila> ack a

ack a

14:54:33 <Caroline> ... I just don't want to define content negtiation in our doc

Caroline Burle: ... I just don't want to define content negtiation in our doc

14:54:49 <Caroline> annette_g: I think the issue here is a little confunsing

Annette Greiner: I think the issue here is a little confunsing [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:55:00 <phila> ack m

ack m

14:55:01 <Caroline> ... It just need to be written more clearly

Caroline Burle: ... It just need to be written more clearly

14:55:57 <Caroline> MTCarrasco: all of these questions on how

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: all of these questions on how [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:56:04 <Caroline> ... they do not define

Caroline Burle: ... they do not define

14:56:14 <Caroline> ... we can clarify certain usages

Caroline Burle: ... we can clarify certain usages

14:56:19 <newton_> What I start writing it's a draft only on my github, I would like to have your help on improving it

Newton Calegari: What I start writing it's a draft only on my github, I would like to have your help on improving it

14:56:57 <Bart_van_Leeuwen> +1 for not going into conneg details

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Unknown Bart_van_Leeuwen: +1 for not going into conneg details

14:57:11 <Caroline> phila: I think it is useful to show and put some examples to make it clear

Phil Archer: I think it is useful to show and put some examples to make it clear [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:57:28 <Caroline> MTCarrasco: how to get the metadata of all resource with content negotiation

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: how to get the metadata of all resource with content negotiation [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:57:50 <Caroline> ... I propose to use it with the URI

Caroline Burle: ... I propose to use it with the URI

14:57:54 <MTCarrasco> http://example.com/foo?

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: http://example.com/foo?

14:58:32 <Caroline> phila: they make perfect sense, but the world has to agree that is a good way to do it

Phil Archer: they make perfect sense, but the world has to agree that is a good way to do it [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:58:39 <phila> http://example.com/foo?meta

http://example.com/foo?meta

14:58:42 <newton_> annette_g or Bart_van_Leeuwen, or someone else who woul like to help, would you mind working with me to improve the BP?

Newton Calegari: annette_g or Bart_van_Leeuwen, or someone else who woul like to help, would you mind working with me to improve the BP?

14:58:52 <Caroline> ... other ways that people do it is similar but the put ?? in the end

Caroline Burle: ... other ways that people do it is similar but the put ?? in the end

14:59:06 <Caroline> ... as far as I know there is no predominant way of doing it

Caroline Burle: ... as far as I know there is no predominant way of doing it

14:59:15 <PWinstanley> present+ PWinstanley

Peter Winstanley: present+ PWinstanley

14:59:19 <Caroline> MTCarrasco: phila is right

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: phila is right [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

14:59:25 <newton_> Bart_van_Leeuwen: Sure :-)

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Unknown Bart_van_Leeuwen: Sure :-) [ Scribe Assist by Newton Calegari ]

14:59:43 <newton_> q+

Newton Calegari: q+

14:59:54 <annette_g> * lol

Annette Greiner: * lol

14:59:56 <newton_> q-

Newton Calegari: q-

14:59:57 <phila> ack n

ack n

15:00:01 <laufer> this is better than q +

Carlos Laufer: this is better than q +

15:00:30 <Caroline> newton_: we are thinking on using a real URL for the examples and a real dataset on that

Newton Calegari: we are thinking on using a real URL for the examples and a real dataset on that [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

15:00:42 <Caroline> ... could we use the W3C?

Caroline Burle: ... could we use the W3C?

15:00:44 <Caroline> phila: yes

Phil Archer: yes [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

15:01:04 <Caroline> ... if you are creating test data you are encourage to do it

Caroline Burle: ... if you are creating test data you are encourage to do it

15:01:07 <Caroline> q+

Caroline Burle: q+

15:01:23 <phila> Caroline: Just asking everyone to help with examples - we really need them.

Caroline Burle: Just asking everyone to help with examples - we really need them.

15:01:28 <phila> ... we can help with editing etc.

... we can help with editing etc.

15:02:23 <Bart_van_Leeuwen> thx phila

Scribe problem: the name 'Bart_van_Leeuwen' does not match any of the 63 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Adriano Veloso Adriano Pereira Amine Abidi Amy Guy Ana Salgado Annette Greiner Antoine Isaac Bart van Leeuwen Bernadette Farias Loscio Carlos Iglesias Carlos Tejo Carlos Laufer Caroline Burle Daniel Schwabe Deirdre Lee Elie SLOÏM Eric Kauz Eric Stephan Erik Mannens Filip Radulovic Flavio Yanai Ghislain Atemezing Giancarlo Guizzardi Gisele Pappa Gustavo Suárez Volpe Hadley Beeman Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto Ingo Simonis Jeremy Debattista Joao Almeida Kangchan Lee Kiev Santos da Gama Lewis Mcgibbney Makx Dekkers Manuel Carrasco Benitez Mark Harrison Martín Álvarez Michel Dumontier Mohamed ZERGAOUI Mostafa Elag Nandana Mihindukulasooriya Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício Newton Calegari Nicky van Oorschot Peter Winstanley Phil Archer Raphaël Troncy Riccardo Albertoni Seiji Isotani Silvia Da Rosa Steven Adler Sumit Purohit Vagner Diniz Vinh Nguyen Wagner Meira Jr. William Mischo William Smith Yao Tong Yaso Córdova victoria koster Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'Bart_van_Leeuwen' does not match any of the 63 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Adriano Veloso Adriano Pereira Amine Abidi Amy Guy Ana Salgado Annette Greiner Antoine Isaac Bart van Leeuwen Bernadette Farias Loscio Carlos Iglesias Carlos Tejo Carlos Laufer Caroline Burle Daniel Schwabe Deirdre Lee Elie SLOÏM Eric Kauz Eric Stephan Erik Mannens Filip Radulovic Flavio Yanai Ghislain Atemezing Giancarlo Guizzardi Gisele Pappa Gustavo Suárez Volpe Hadley Beeman Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto Ingo Simonis Jeremy Debattista Joao Almeida Kangchan Lee Kiev Santos da Gama Lewis Mcgibbney Makx Dekkers Manuel Carrasco Benitez Mark Harrison Martín Álvarez Michel Dumontier Mohamed ZERGAOUI Mostafa Elag Nandana Mihindukulasooriya Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício Newton Calegari Nicky van Oorschot Peter Winstanley Phil Archer Raphaël Troncy Riccardo Albertoni Seiji Isotani Silvia Da Rosa Steven Adler Sumit Purohit Vagner Diniz Vinh Nguyen Wagner Meira Jr. William Mischo William Smith Yao Tong Yaso Córdova victoria koster Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Bart_van_Leeuwen: thx phila

15:02:25 <MTCarrasco> bye

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: bye

15:02:25 <Bart_van_Leeuwen> bye

Scribe problem: the name 'Bart_van_Leeuwen' does not match any of the 63 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Adriano Veloso Adriano Pereira Amine Abidi Amy Guy Ana Salgado Annette Greiner Antoine Isaac Bart van Leeuwen Bernadette Farias Loscio Carlos Iglesias Carlos Tejo Carlos Laufer Caroline Burle Daniel Schwabe Deirdre Lee Elie SLOÏM Eric Kauz Eric Stephan Erik Mannens Filip Radulovic Flavio Yanai Ghislain Atemezing Giancarlo Guizzardi Gisele Pappa Gustavo Suárez Volpe Hadley Beeman Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto Ingo Simonis Jeremy Debattista Joao Almeida Kangchan Lee Kiev Santos da Gama Lewis Mcgibbney Makx Dekkers Manuel Carrasco Benitez Mark Harrison Martín Álvarez Michel Dumontier Mohamed ZERGAOUI Mostafa Elag Nandana Mihindukulasooriya Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício Newton Calegari Nicky van Oorschot Peter Winstanley Phil Archer Raphaël Troncy Riccardo Albertoni Seiji Isotani Silvia Da Rosa Steven Adler Sumit Purohit Vagner Diniz Vinh Nguyen Wagner Meira Jr. William Mischo William Smith Yao Tong Yaso Córdova victoria koster Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'Bart_van_Leeuwen' does not match any of the 63 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Adriano Veloso Adriano Pereira Amine Abidi Amy Guy Ana Salgado Annette Greiner Antoine Isaac Bart van Leeuwen Bernadette Farias Loscio Carlos Iglesias Carlos Tejo Carlos Laufer Caroline Burle Daniel Schwabe Deirdre Lee Elie SLOÏM Eric Kauz Eric Stephan Erik Mannens Filip Radulovic Flavio Yanai Ghislain Atemezing Giancarlo Guizzardi Gisele Pappa Gustavo Suárez Volpe Hadley Beeman Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto Ingo Simonis Jeremy Debattista Joao Almeida Kangchan Lee Kiev Santos da Gama Lewis Mcgibbney Makx Dekkers Manuel Carrasco Benitez Mark Harrison Martín Álvarez Michel Dumontier Mohamed ZERGAOUI Mostafa Elag Nandana Mihindukulasooriya Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício Newton Calegari Nicky van Oorschot Peter Winstanley Phil Archer Raphaël Troncy Riccardo Albertoni Seiji Isotani Silvia Da Rosa Steven Adler Sumit Purohit Vagner Diniz Vinh Nguyen Wagner Meira Jr. William Mischo William Smith Yao Tong Yaso Córdova victoria koster Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Bart_van_Leeuwen: bye

15:02:28 <laufer> bye all - nice wknd

Carlos Laufer: bye all - nice wknd

15:02:34 <annette_g> thanks all!

Annette Greiner: thanks all!

15:02:44 <PWinstanley> bye!

Peter Winstanley: bye!

15:02:46 <laufer> the keyword will be the same?

Carlos Laufer: the keyword will be the same?

15:02:48 <Makx> bye

Makx Dekkers: bye

15:02:53 <annette_g> * I will NOT be shopping

Annette Greiner: * I will NOT be shopping

15:03:56 <phila> RRSAgent, draft minutes

RRSAgent, draft minutes

15:03:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/11/20-dwbp-minutes.html phila

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/11/20-dwbp-minutes.html phila



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