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15:58:58 <Zakim> the conference code is 3927 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), phila
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16:02:10 <RiccardoAlbertoni> zakim, +39.349.096.aabb is RiccardoAlbertoni
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16:03:20 <ericstephan> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/TPAC_2014
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16:05:16 <phila> RiccardoAlbertoni: interested in quality vocab. We have some user scenarios
Riccardo Albertoni: interested in quality vocab. We have some user scenarios [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
16:05:32 <phila> ... I've been working on quality actors. Like to contribute to that vocab
Phil Archer: ... I've been working on quality actors. Like to contribute to that vocab ←
16:06:29 <phila> ... I've looked at the currnet version of the UCR
Phil Archer: ... I've looked at the currnet version of the UCR ←
16:06:56 <phila> ... this group is not only about Linked data. It's not yet clear to me what issues we should stress
Phil Archer: ... this group is not only about Linked data. It's not yet clear to me what issues we should stress ←
16:06:58 <phila> ... I added a new scenario
Phil Archer: ... I added a new scenario ←
16:07:17 <RiccardoAlbertoni> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Second-Round_Use_Cases
Riccardo Albertoni: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Second-Round_Use_Cases ←
16:09:00 <phila> http://www.w3.org/TR/dwbp-ucr/#R-VocabVersion
Phil Archer: http://www.w3.org/TR/dwbp-ucr/#R-VocabVersion ←
16:10:00 <phila> phila: do you have a list of attributes for assessing quality?
Phil Archer: do you have a list of attributes for assessing quality? [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
16:10:27 <phila> RiccardoAlbertoni: Yes, in one of the LD docs there was something about standard methods of quality but it's not clear what they might be
Riccardo Albertoni: Yes, in one of the LD docs there was something about standard methods of quality but it's not clear what they might be [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
16:10:56 <phila> ... one thing I think that's important about quality is a list of dimensions
Phil Archer: ... one thing I think that's important about quality is a list of dimensions ←
16:11:02 <ericstephan> http://www.edbt.org/Proceedings/2013-Genova/papers/workshops/a8-albertoni.pdf
Eric Stephan: http://www.edbt.org/Proceedings/2013-Genova/papers/workshops/a8-albertoni.pdf ←
16:12:05 <phila> ericstephan: That's very interesting. I saw the use case go by...
Eric Stephan: That's very interesting. I saw the use case go by... [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
16:12:14 <phila> ... this brings up a topic for TPAC.
Phil Archer: ... this brings up a topic for TPAC. ←
16:12:31 <phila> ... there a presumably other use cases that didn't make it into the UCR (yet)
Phil Archer: ... there a presumably other use cases that didn't make it into the UCR (yet) ←
16:12:44 <phila> ... is there a way that we could add them/present them at TPAC?
Phil Archer: ... is there a way that we could add them/present them at TPAC? ←
16:14:59 <phila> phila: Can you, RiccardoAlbertoni, phrase a use case such that the dimensions of qulaity become requirements?
Phil Archer: Can you, RiccardoAlbertoni, phrase a use case such that the dimensions of qulaity become requirements? [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
16:15:27 <phila> RiccardoAlbertoni: possibly - but the vocab produced by the group should be open enough to be customised and specialised
Riccardo Albertoni: possibly - but the vocab produced by the group should be open enough to be customised and specialised [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
16:15:39 <phila> ... in order to document an attachment that is about quality
Phil Archer: ... in order to document an attachment that is about quality ←
16:18:29 <phila> phila: we need a hook to hang the dimensions on
Phil Archer: we need a hook to hang the dimensions on [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
16:18:55 <phila> ... and that's got to be at least a general use case that requires 'some dimensions'
Phil Archer: ... and that's got to be at least a general use case that requires 'some dimensions' ←
16:19:53 <phila> ericstephan: We do have a numnber of different use cases that we've talked about people bringing forward.
Eric Stephan: We do have a numnber of different use cases that we've talked about people bringing forward. [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
16:20:10 <phila> ... another one that bernadette has is an application vocabulary that we have been talking about.
Phil Archer: ... another one that bernadette has is an application vocabulary that we have been talking about. ←
16:20:27 <phila> ... that includes the ability to describe the data usage from an application perspective
Phil Archer: ... that includes the ability to describe the data usage from an application perspective ←
16:20:35 <phila> ... but they're not yet illustrated in the UCR yet
Phil Archer: ... but they're not yet illustrated in the UCR yet ←
16:20:55 <phila> ... so we need to add those so that we can relate elemnts to requirements that come from use cases
Phil Archer: ... so we need to add those so that we can relate elemnts to requirements that come from use cases ←
16:21:06 <phila> ... There were other use cases that we requested that we didn't get responses to
Phil Archer: ... There were other use cases that we requested that we didn't get responses to ←
16:21:45 <phila> ... we asked Steve Adler and Yaso about their use cases. I need to ask them again to get those UCs in
Phil Archer: ... we asked Steve Adler and Yaso about their use cases. I need to ask them again to get those UCs in ←
16:22:18 <phila> ... so in prep for our f2f, we need to make sure that any use cases that have already been written up, like Riccardo's, get talked about
Phil Archer: ... so in prep for our f2f, we need to make sure that any use cases that have already been written up, like Riccardo's, get talked about ←
16:22:49 <phila> ... and anything like the new UC should ideally be written up before the meeting
Phil Archer: ... and anything like the new UC should ideally be written up before the meeting ←
16:26:13 <ericstephan> Phila: if we don't get our use cases written and requirements identified then we will have missed an opportunity to capture important input for the vocabularies
Phil Archer: if we don't get our use cases written and requirements identified then we will have missed an opportunity to capture important input for the vocabularies [ Scribe Assist by Eric Stephan ] ←
16:27:53 <phila> RiccardoAlbertoni: I can look at the requiremetns about tbe QV and make some suggestions
Riccardo Albertoni: I can look at the requiremetns about tbe QV and make some suggestions [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
16:28:03 <phila> ...by e-mail and on the phone
Phil Archer: ...by e-mail and on the phone ←
16:28:33 <phila> ericstephan: So for the DUV, what Bernadette and I talked about in prep for TPAC, we're going to have a ToC and some content
Eric Stephan: So for the DUV, what Bernadette and I talked about in prep for TPAC, we're going to have a ToC and some content [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
16:28:55 <phila> ... we have a lot of material, we want to move ahead as quickly as possible
Phil Archer: ... we have a lot of material, we want to move ahead as quickly as possible ←
16:29:15 <phila> ericstephan: One thing we talked about - at least for the time being, assume that DCAT is part of the DUV
Eric Stephan: One thing we talked about - at least for the time being, assume that DCAT is part of the DUV [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
16:29:37 <phila> ... it's about data usage and we have really good examples of usage
Phil Archer: ... it's about data usage and we have really good examples of usage ←
16:30:13 <phila> phila: I;m strongly in favour of DCAT of course
Phil Archer: I;m strongly in favour of DCAT of course [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
16:30:30 <phila> ericstephan: We need to look at a processing perspective and others
Eric Stephan: We need to look at a processing perspective and others [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
16:30:42 <phila> ... that's our core concept. It's not optional
Phil Archer: ... that's our core concept. It's not optional ←
16:31:15 <phila> ... it's important as part of the methodology and not starting from scratch
Phil Archer: ... it's important as part of the methodology and not starting from scratch ←
16:31:42 <phila> ... From Antoine's perspective. Is that where data quality is starting from as well
Phil Archer: ... From Antoine's perspective. Is that where data quality is starting from as well ←
16:38:04 <phila> https://www.w3.org/2014/data-shapes/wiki/Main_Page
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