15:56:08 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/06/26-dwbp-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/06/26-dwbp-irc ←
15:56:10 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs 351
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs 351 ←
15:56:12 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DWBP
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be DWBP ←
15:56:12 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see DATA_DWBP()12:00PM already started
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot, I see DATA_DWBP()12:00PM already started ←
15:56:13 <trackbot> Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
15:56:13 <trackbot> Date: 26 June 2014
15:56:48 <ericstephan> Do I list myself as chair?
Eric Stephan: Do I list myself as chair? ←
15:56:57 <yaso> chair: Ericstephan
15:57:02 <yaso> Let me see
Yaso Córdova: Let me see ←
15:57:13 <ericstephan> thank you
Eric Stephan: thank you ←
15:57:17 <yaso> You are already listed on the wiki
Yaso Córdova: You are already listed on the wiki ←
15:57:21 <ericstephan> ok
Eric Stephan: ok ←
15:57:27 <yaso> So I don’t think it’s necessary :-)
Yaso Córdova: So I don’t think it’s necessary :-) ←
15:57:44 <yaso> hi Bernadette
Yaso Córdova: hi Bernadette ←
15:58:00 <BernadetteLoscio> hi Yaso!
Bernadette Farias Loscio: hi Yaso! ←
15:58:01 <yaso> Hi BernadetteLoscio
Yaso Córdova: Hi BernadetteLoscio ←
15:58:01 <Zakim> +Caroline
Zakim IRC Bot: +Caroline ←
15:58:14 <yaso> Zakim, Caroline is yaso
Yaso Córdova: Zakim, Caroline is yaso ←
15:58:14 <Zakim> +yaso; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +yaso; got it ←
15:58:15 <BernadetteLoscio> Hi Eric!
Bernadette Farias Loscio: Hi Eric! ←
15:59:02 <yaso> zakim, who’s on the phone?
Yaso Córdova: zakim, who’s on the phone? ←
15:59:02 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, yaso.
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, yaso. ←
15:59:03 <ericstephan> Hi Bernadette!
Eric Stephan: Hi Bernadette! ←
15:59:55 <yaso> zakim who is here?
Yaso Córdova: zakim who is here? ←
16:01:09 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
16:01:21 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, IPCaller is me
Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, IPCaller is me ←
16:01:21 <Zakim> +BernadetteLoscio; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +BernadetteLoscio; got it ←
16:01:32 <Zakim> +??P18
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P18 ←
16:01:55 <ericstephan> zakim, who is here?
Eric Stephan: zakim, who is here? ←
16:01:55 <Zakim> On the phone I see ericstephan, yaso, BernadetteLoscio, ??P18
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ericstephan, yaso, BernadetteLoscio, ??P18 ←
16:01:58 <Zakim> On IRC I see jerdeb, RRSAgent, BernadetteLoscio, ericstephan, Zakim, yaso, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see jerdeb, RRSAgent, BernadetteLoscio, ericstephan, Zakim, yaso, trackbot ←
16:03:45 <BernadetteLoscio> scribe: BernadetteLoscio
(Scribe set to Bernadette Farias Loscio)
16:04:10 <ericstephan> zakim, who is here?
Eric Stephan: zakim, who is here? ←
16:04:10 <Zakim> On the phone I see ericstephan, yaso, BernadetteLoscio, ??P18
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ericstephan, yaso, BernadetteLoscio, ??P18 ←
16:04:11 <Zakim> On IRC I see deirdrelee, antoine, markharrison, jerdeb, RRSAgent, BernadetteLoscio, ericstephan, Zakim, yaso, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see deirdrelee, antoine, markharrison, jerdeb, RRSAgent, BernadetteLoscio, ericstephan, Zakim, yaso, trackbot ←
16:04:22 <ericstephan> no problem
Eric Stephan: no problem ←
16:04:38 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
16:04:39 <Zakim> +markharrison
Zakim IRC Bot: +markharrison ←
16:04:45 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller is me
Antoine Isaac: zakim, IPcaller is me ←
16:04:45 <Zakim> +antoine; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +antoine; got it ←
16:04:54 <BernadetteLoscio> we have eco again
we have eco again ←
16:04:58 <jerdeb> zakim, ??P18 is me
Jeremy Debattista: zakim, ??P18 is me ←
16:04:58 <Zakim> +jerdeb; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +jerdeb; got it ←
16:05:12 <markharrison> zakim, who is here?
Mark Harrison: zakim, who is here? ←
16:05:12 <Zakim> On the phone I see ericstephan, yaso, BernadetteLoscio, jerdeb, markharrison, antoine
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ericstephan, yaso, BernadetteLoscio, jerdeb, markharrison, antoine ←
16:05:15 <Zakim> On IRC I see deirdrelee, antoine, markharrison, jerdeb, RRSAgent, BernadetteLoscio, ericstephan, Zakim, yaso, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see deirdrelee, antoine, markharrison, jerdeb, RRSAgent, BernadetteLoscio, ericstephan, Zakim, yaso, trackbot ←
16:05:18 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
16:05:30 <deirdrelee> zakim, ipcaller is me
Deirdre Lee: zakim, ipcaller is me ←
16:05:30 <Zakim> +deirdrelee; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +deirdrelee; got it ←
16:05:50 <BernadetteLoscio> great!
great! ←
16:06:09 <ericstephan> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20140626
Eric Stephan: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20140626 ←
16:06:37 <BernadetteLoscio> ericstephan: we have a simple agenda
Eric Stephan: we have a simple agenda ←
16:07:21 <ericstephan> https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-06-12
Eric Stephan: https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-06-12 ←
16:08:17 <yaso> PROPOSED: accept last weeks minutes: https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-06-12
PROPOSED: accept last weeks minutes: https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-06-12 ←
16:08:23 <ericstephan> +1
Eric Stephan: +1 ←
16:08:30 <antoine> +1
Antoine Isaac: +1 ←
16:08:40 <BernadetteLoscio> +1
+1 ←
16:08:40 <yaso> +!
Yaso Córdova: +! ←
16:08:49 <jerdeb> 0 (i was not in the meeting)
Jeremy Debattista: 0 (i was not in the meeting) ←
16:09:23 <ericstephan> thats too bad antoine :-(
Eric Stephan: thats too bad antoine :-( ←
16:09:25 <markharrison> +1
Mark Harrison: +1 ←
16:09:27 <yaso> Zakim, who’s makinf noise?
Yaso Córdova: Zakim, who’s makinf noise? ←
16:09:27 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, yaso.
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, yaso. ←
16:09:36 <yaso> Zakim, who’s noisy?
Yaso Córdova: Zakim, who’s noisy? ←
16:09:36 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, yaso.
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, yaso. ←
16:09:49 <markharrison> zakim, who is noisy?
Mark Harrison: zakim, who is noisy? ←
16:09:58 <yaso> RESOLVED:
RESOLVED: ←
16:10:00 <Zakim> markharrison, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ericstephan (15%), yaso (46%), BernadetteLoscio (59%)
Zakim IRC Bot: markharrison, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ericstephan (15%), yaso (46%), BernadetteLoscio (59%) ←
16:10:09 <BernadetteLoscio> RESOLVED: accept last weeks minutes
RESOLVED: accept last weeks minutes ←
16:10:37 <ericstephan> Data Quality and Granularity Vocabulary Editors report?
Eric Stephan: Data Quality and Granularity Vocabulary Editors report? ←
16:10:46 <BernadetteLoscio> TOPIC: Reports from Data Quality and Granularity Vocabulary Editors
16:11:26 <ericstephan> TOPIC: Data Usage Vocabulary Editors report?
16:11:29 <BernadetteLoscio> ericstephan: Bart is not on the phone
Eric Stephan: Bart is not on the phone ←
16:11:46 <yaso> scribe: yaso
(Scribe set to Yaso Córdova)
16:12:03 <yaso> Bernadette: we were discussing about how to present a dataset in a general way
Bernadette Farias Loscio: we were discussing about how to present a dataset in a general way ←
16:12:19 <yaso> instead of having the cannonical form to present data
instead of having the cannonical form to present data ←
16:12:52 <yaso> BernadetteLoscio: I think this can help to define the data usage vocabs and also the standards on how datasets can be used
Bernadette Farias Loscio: I think this can help to define the data usage vocabs and also the standards on how datasets can be used ←
16:13:01 <antoine> q+
Antoine Isaac: q+ ←
16:13:28 <yaso> … we’re working on putting something on the wiki
… we’re working on putting something on the wiki ←
16:13:51 <yaso> … I think in the next week this can be made
… I think in the next week this can be made ←
16:14:18 <yaso> ACTION: BernadetteLoscio to write down on the wiki about the talk about data usage vocabs
ACTION: BernadetteLoscio to write down on the wiki about the talk about data usage vocabs ←
16:14:18 <trackbot> Created ACTION-53 - Write down on the wiki about the talk about data usage vocabs [on Bernadette Farias Loscio - due 2014-07-03].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-53 - Write down on the wiki about the talk about data usage vocabs [on Bernadette Farias Loscio - due 2014-07-03]. ←
16:14:43 <yaso> bernadetteLoscio: the idea is to use the same definition from DCAT, but complementary to DCAT.
Bernadette Farias Loscio: the idea is to use the same definition from DCAT, but complementary to DCAT. ←
16:15:12 <yaso> … I see DCAT as a general description of a dataset. How we can really use the dataset
… I see DCAT as a general description of a dataset. How we can really use the dataset ←
16:15:27 <yaso> … It’s like the relational operator
… It’s like the relational operator ←
16:15:47 <yaso> … we are working on a distribution level.
… we are working on a distribution level. ←
16:16:05 <yaso> antoine: It’s not precise...
Antoine Isaac: It’s not precise... ←
16:16:27 <yaso> Ericstephan: you’re sayng that you have 2 or more datasets
Eric Stephan: you’re sayng that you have 2 or more datasets ←
16:16:48 <Zakim> -jerdeb
Zakim IRC Bot: -jerdeb ←
16:17:00 <yaso> Zakim, who’s making noise?
Zakim, who’s making noise? ←
16:17:00 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, yaso.
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, yaso. ←
16:17:17 <Zakim> +??P18
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P18 ←
16:17:22 <yaso> who's talking?
who's talking? ←
16:17:25 <yaso> Zakim, who's talking?
Zakim, who's talking? ←
16:17:29 <jerdeb> zakim, ??P18 is me
Jeremy Debattista: zakim, ??P18 is me ←
16:17:29 <Zakim> +jerdeb; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +jerdeb; got it ←
16:17:37 <Zakim> yaso, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ericstephan (4%)
Zakim IRC Bot: yaso, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ericstephan (4%) ←
16:19:00 <ericstephan> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/50
Eric Stephan: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/50 ←
16:19:18 <yaso> ericstephan: action 50
16:19:21 <ericstephan> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Best_practices_guidelines#general_guidelines
Eric Stephan: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Best_practices_guidelines#general_guidelines ←
16:19:27 <markharrison> Bernadette was explaining that there could be two or more datasets possibly in different formats (e.g. XML, CSV, RDF, etc.) which could semantically be joined through one or more common fields (like a relational database join) - and she / her team have been looking into ways to express that the semantics of the fields in the datasets, so that people can be aware of the possibility to join them - and looking into the mechanisms to join them?
Mark Harrison: Bernadette was explaining that there could be two or more datasets possibly in different formats (e.g. XML, CSV, RDF, etc.) which could semantically be joined through one or more common fields (like a relational database join) - and she / her team have been looking into ways to express that the semantics of the fields in the datasets, so that people can be aware of the possibility to join them - and looking into the mechanisms to join them? ←
16:20:20 <yaso> BernadetteLoscio: I think that there is an inicial decision that we have to make
Bernadette Farias Loscio: I think that there is an inicial decision that we have to make ←
16:20:53 <yaso> because from the UC document, we identified that we have best practices for licences
because from the UC document, we identified that we have best practices for licences ←
16:21:14 <yaso> Another important decision is: we’re going to have general best practices?
Another important decision is: we’re going to have general best practices? ←
16:21:44 <yaso> … another thing I’m trying discover is possible best practices
… another thing I’m trying discover is possible best practices ←
16:22:06 <antoine> q+ to ask if this call is the right place to discuss this
Antoine Isaac: q+ to ask if this call is the right place to discuss this ←
16:22:10 <ericstephan> q+
Eric Stephan: q+ ←
16:22:15 <yaso> … I think it’s really important that we have an ideia on how will we use the Best Practices with the vocabularies
… I think it’s really important that we have an ideia on how will we use the Best Practices with the vocabularies ←
16:23:10 <BernadetteLoscio> q+
Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+ ←
16:23:49 <yaso> deirdrelle, whould you mind to take scribe from here??
deirdrelle, whould you mind to take scribe from here?? ←
16:23:54 <yaso> I’ll have to leave
I’ll have to leave ←
16:24:14 <yaso> q+
q+ ←
16:24:40 <yaso> bernadetteloscio: it’s more how we can use the BP with the vocabularies. How are we’re gonna link those 2 things
Bernadette Farias Loscio: it’s more how we can use the BP with the vocabularies. How are we’re gonna link those 2 things ←
16:25:09 <yaso> because we need to identify requirements to the vocabs - if we identify the vocabs for the BP also. What do you think?
because we need to identify requirements to the vocabs - if we identify the vocabs for the BP also. What do you think? ←
16:25:14 <yaso> zakim, who's talking?
zakim, who's talking? ←
16:25:25 <Zakim> yaso, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds
Zakim IRC Bot: yaso, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds ←
16:27:03 <yaso> q?
q? ←
16:27:44 <yaso> It seems like the requirements depends on who is gonna use this BO
It seems like the requirements depends on who is gonna use this BO ←
16:28:22 <BernadetteLoscio> q+
Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+ ←
16:28:31 <antoine> q-
Antoine Isaac: q- ←
16:28:44 <ericstephan> q-
Eric Stephan: q- ←
16:28:46 <antoine> zakim, ack BernadetteLoscio
Antoine Isaac: zakim, ack BernadetteLoscio ←
16:28:46 <Zakim> I see yaso on the speaker queue
Zakim IRC Bot: I see yaso on the speaker queue ←
16:29:06 <yaso> BernadetteLoscio: I think we can have this information on BP
Bernadette Farias Loscio: I think we can have this information on BP ←
16:29:53 <yaso> markharrison: I’ll have to leave the meeting, do you mind taking scribe from here?
Mark Harrison: I’ll have to leave the meeting, do you mind taking scribe from here? ←
16:30:59 <ericstephan> thank you yaso!
Eric Stephan: thank you yaso! ←
16:31:05 <markharrison> OK - I can try
Mark Harrison: OK - I can try ←
16:31:14 <yaso> :-) thanks!
:-) thanks! ←
16:31:18 <BernadetteLoscio> thanks!
Bernadette Farias Loscio: thanks! ←
16:31:20 <yaso> Scribe: markharrison
(Scribe set to Mark Harrison)
16:31:22 <antoine> scribe: markharrison
16:31:47 <markharrison> Good luck!
Good luck! ←
16:31:48 <BernadetteLoscio> thanks!
Bernadette Farias Loscio: thanks! ←
16:31:52 <Zakim> -yaso
Zakim IRC Bot: -yaso ←
16:32:10 <deirdrelee> q+
Deirdre Lee: q+ ←
16:32:10 <antoine> nope
Antoine Isaac: nope ←
16:32:44 <Zakim> -jerdeb
Zakim IRC Bot: -jerdeb ←
16:32:56 <antoine> zakim, ack deirdrelee
Antoine Isaac: zakim, ack deirdrelee ←
16:32:57 <Zakim> I see yaso on the speaker queue
Zakim IRC Bot: I see yaso on the speaker queue ←
16:33:05 <Zakim> +??P6
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P6 ←
16:33:18 <jerdeb> zakim, ??P6 is me
Jeremy Debattista: zakim, ??P6 is me ←
16:33:18 <Zakim> +jerdeb; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +jerdeb; got it ←
16:33:38 <markharrison> Deirdre: relating e-mail Deidre sent to Antoine. Any follow up regarding interest in DWBP?
Deirdre Lee: relating e-mail Deidre sent to Antoine. Any follow up regarding interest in DWBP? ←
16:33:58 <markharrison> Antoine: need to see what they have done.
Antoine Isaac: need to see what they have done. ←
16:34:24 <markharrison> Deirdre: Figure out was is their most valuable input to the vocabulary team
Deirdre Lee: Figure out was is their most valuable input to the vocabulary team ←
16:34:52 <markharrison> Deirdre: Consider whether or not they should be full members.
Deirdre Lee: Consider whether or not they should be full members. ←
16:35:08 <markharrison> Antoine to follow up
Antoine to follow up ←
16:36:14 <markharrison> Antoine: figure out how to include Jeremy? Not same as finding common denominator among all these research efforts.
Antoine Isaac: figure out how to include Jeremy? Not same as finding common denominator among all these research efforts. ←
16:36:34 <markharrison> Deirdre: Maybe Max has some idea how they fit together?
Deirdre Lee: Maybe Makx has some idea how they fit together? ←
16:36:46 <antoine> s/Max/Makx
16:36:52 <markharrison> Thanks!
Thanks! ←
16:36:59 <jerdeb> @antoine we can take that discussion offline if you like
Jeremy Debattista: @antoine we can take that discussion offline if you like ←
16:37:00 <markharrison> s/Max/Makx/
16:37:33 <markharrison> Next call in two weeks? July 10th?
Next call in two weeks? July 10th? ←
16:37:39 <BernadetteLoscio> yes
Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes ←
16:38:21 <ericstephan> antoine will chair next meeting. thank you!
Eric Stephan: antoine will chair next meeting. thank you! ←
16:38:23 <Zakim> -antoine
Zakim IRC Bot: -antoine ←
16:38:24 <Zakim> -deirdrelee
Zakim IRC Bot: -deirdrelee ←
16:38:25 <Zakim> -jerdeb
Zakim IRC Bot: -jerdeb ←
16:38:27 <Zakim> -markharrison
Zakim IRC Bot: -markharrison ←
16:38:28 <Zakim> -ericstephan
Zakim IRC Bot: -ericstephan ←
16:38:30 <markharrison> bye
bye ←
16:38:30 <Zakim> -BernadetteLoscio
Zakim IRC Bot: -BernadetteLoscio ←
16:38:30 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()12:00PM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: DATA_DWBP()12:00PM has ended ←
16:38:30 <Zakim> Attendees were ericstephan, yaso, BernadetteLoscio, markharrison, antoine, jerdeb, deirdrelee
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were ericstephan, yaso, BernadetteLoscio, markharrison, antoine, jerdeb, deirdrelee ←
16:38:38 <BernadetteLoscio> eric...
Bernadette Farias Loscio: eric... ←
16:38:50 <ericstephan> Yes?
Eric Stephan: Yes? ←
16:38:59 <ericstephan> Do you need me to join by phone?
Eric Stephan: Do you need me to join by phone? ←
16:39:16 <BernadetteLoscio> yes!
Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes! ←
16:39:21 <BernadetteLoscio> and the minutes?
Bernadette Farias Loscio: and the minutes? ←
16:39:33 <BernadetteLoscio> do you know how to do this?
Bernadette Farias Loscio: do you know how to do this? ←
16:39:38 <ericstephan> okay just a sec :-)
Eric Stephan: okay just a sec :-) ←
16:39:55 <BernadetteLoscio> :)
Bernadette Farias Loscio: :) ←
16:40:06 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()12:00PM has now started
Zakim IRC Bot: DATA_DWBP()12:00PM has now started ←
16:40:13 <Zakim> +ericstephan
Zakim IRC Bot: +ericstephan ←
16:40:28 <ericstephan> I just tried calling
Eric Stephan: I just tried calling ←
16:40:43 <ericstephan> Do you want me to call by skype?
Eric Stephan: Do you want me to call by skype? ←
16:40:52 <BernadetteLoscio> 1 minute
Bernadette Farias Loscio: 1 minute ←
16:41:20 <Zakim> -ericstephan
Zakim IRC Bot: -ericstephan ←
16:41:21 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()12:00PM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: DATA_DWBP()12:00PM has ended ←
16:41:21 <Zakim> Attendees were ericstephan
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were ericstephan ←
16:42:09 <BernadetteLoscio> rrsagent, generate minutes
Bernadette Farias Loscio: rrsagent, generate minutes ←
16:42:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/06/26-dwbp-minutes.html BernadetteLoscio
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/06/26-dwbp-minutes.html BernadetteLoscio ←
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